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So, I suppose most of you are either skeptical of my sincerity or you are categorically against deliberately inviting a demon to subsume me and take total control of my mind body and soul.

But, as an academic quesiton, if somebody wanted to become possessed by a demon, is that possible in your religion, and if so, how does one go about it in your belief system?

If your religion makes you uncomfortable discussing the mechanics of demon possession, feel free to opine on what demons are in your religion (literal vs. symbolic, fallen angel, other). I'd be interested in hearing from just about any devout followers, Christian, Muslim, whatever. By way of exception, no Scientologists, por favor.

For the unreligious folks, yes, this is absurd, but hardly moreso than many long and hearty threads on this board.

Do some research. I suggest the Bible , and then looking in the "Occult" or "New Age" sections of your local library/bookstore.

I think your supposed to make some deal with the Devil for personal gain first. Or become a Hollywood actor. Either one works.

Study Hindu Tantra - especially the cult of Shaktism (Mother Goddess Worship). Do it WITHOUT a guru and make sure to do everything wrong. This is what the common Shakta wouldn't do in order to be safe from "spirits".

I don't believe in demon possession, but that stuff is still scary to me.

According to my "religion" (though technically it is not one) you already are. :D

Do some research. I suggest the Bible , and then looking in the "Occult" or "New Age" sections of your local library/bookstore.

That would be cool if there was a "Demon Possession for Dummies" at Barnes and Noble...or an Occult section in the library, like in Treehouse of Horror.

Nothing like a live, interactive source, though.

It is fairly difficult to track down the devil himself in order to make a contract with him, because he tends to be fairly busy in this world of ours and in his constant struggle against the Lord. A much easier way is simply to hate. To truly hate someone, and let that flame burn within you. To the devil, that burning soulflame will glow strong amongst millions of other calm souls, and will draw him to you; you need not go looking for him. But in hating, you are inviting the devil to possess you without really realizing it, for he thrives on hate. He will not ask to enter, he simply will, because he can enter with ease any human heart that hates. And there is no contract; he simply seizes control, and you must work hard, with all your power, to wrest control back of the soul that was so viciously ripped from your power.

As a note, I am a United Methodist, and believe strongly in most branches of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.

"Rejoice in Service!"

I think your supposed to make some deal with the Devil for personal gain first. Or become a Hollywood actor. Either one works.

I have no dramatic talent. I can't even impersonate Christopher Walken.

Maybe I could offer the Devil $300 in exchange for incredibe...acting...TALENT!

I have no dramatic talent. I can't even impersonate Christopher Walken.

Maybe I could offer the Devil $300 in exchange for incredibe...acting...TALENT!

I think he's more of soul kind of guy.

The Iroquois, Ojibwe and Cree believe that you can become possessed and become a windigo who craves human flesh. Generally you become possessed by actually engaging in cannibalism, but it's believed you can also be open to possession if you are very greedy.

Of course once you are a windigo, you must be hunted down and killed.

Lol the easiest way I heard of is to play and break/burn a Ouija board in the middle of it.

So, I suppose most of you are either skeptical of my sincerity or you are categorically against deliberately inviting a demon to subsume me and take total control of my mind body and soul.

But, as an academic quesiton, if somebody wanted to become possessed by a demon, is that possible in your religion, and if so, how does one go about it in your belief system?

If your religion makes you uncomfortable discussing the mechanics of demon possession, feel free to opine on what demons are in your religion (literal vs. symbolic, fallen angel, other). I'd be interested in hearing from just about any devout followers, Christian, Muslim, whatever. By way of exception, no Scientologists, por favor.

For the unreligious folks, yes, this is absurd, but hardly moreso than many long and hearty threads on this board.
Depends on the religion. If I understand Christianity correctly, possession is less something that one can achieve, more something that happens by accident.

Lol the easiest way I heard of is to play and break/burn a Ouija board in the middle of it.

ya ya

in my experience the ouija board is the portal to possession. but i never heard that you needed to destroy it, just that using it opens you to demonic possession.

when i was a girl back in coastal maine, a girl in my gradeschool class contacted helen keller on the ouija board and ended up possessed by her (odd since helen keller isnt a demon). i dont recall how it was ever resolved or if she is possessed to this day.

still a good avenue to try if you are looking for demonic possession.

the other route seems to be taking the harry potter books too seriously and trying out your own magic spells.

fucking wth the occult leads to demonic possession.

That's pretty racist, dude. How can you so quickly assume that the devil is a black guy?

Right, like every Adversary of God rolls around in a leased Cadillac with a pair of pastel colored alligator shoes, smoking Philly Blunts and buying 40 ozs of Old Gold with his girlfriend's paycheck from the DMV.

Wow, what I just said is way, way more racist then what you said...in fact, what you said was not racist in the slightest, but was in fact a reference to the traditional currency of Faustian commerce.

Jesus, I'm so, so sorry.

Pete: "I've always wondered, what's the devil look like?"

Ulysses Everett McGill: "Well, there are all manner of lesser imps and demons, Pete, but the great Satan himself is red and scaly with a bifurcated tail, and he carries a hay fork."

Tommy Johnson: "Oh, no. No, sir. He's white, as white as you folks, with empty eyes and a big hollow voice. He likes to travel around with a mean old hound. That's right. "

I think he's more of soul kind of guy.

That's pretty racist, dude. How can you so quickly assume that the devil is a black guy?

Right, like every Adversary of God rolls around in a leased Cadillac with a pair of pastel colored alligator shoes, smoking Philly Blunts and buying 40 ozs of Old Gold with his girlfriend's paycheck from the DMV.

Wow, what I just said is way, way more racist then what you said...in fact, what you said was not racist in the slightest, but was in fact a reference to the traditional currency of Faustian commerce.

Jesus, I'm so, so sorry.

Depends on the religion. If I understand Christianity correctly, possession is less something that one can achieve, more something that happens by accident.
Well, to you it's an accident to the Demons it's on purpose.
And Jhan? WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU WANNA BE DEMON POSSESED?!?!?
Just outtta curiosity.

The Iroquois, Ojibwe and Cree believe that you can become possessed and become a windigo who craves human flesh. Generally you become possessed by actually engaging in cannibalism, but it's believed you can also be open to possession if you are very greedy.

Of course once you are a windigo, you must be hunted down and killed.

Hmmm...indiginous approach to the subject...fuckin' sweet.

But I'm not eating somebody, I'd rather go the avarice route.

And once I'm a wendigo, you won't able to hunt my ass, because I'll turn into a snowstorm and disappear and then come back key your car or something.

Hmmm...indiginous approach to the subject...fuckin' sweet.

But I'm not eating somebody, I'd rather go the avarice route.

And once I'm a wendigo, you won't able to hunt my ass, because I'll turn into a snowstorm and disappear and then come back key your car or something.

People used to beg to be killed if they thought they were turning into a windigo.

I take it you won't be voluntarily walking into an execution?

when i was a girl back in coastal maine, a girl in my gradeschool class contacted helen keller on the ouija board and ended up possessed by her (odd since helen keller isnt a demon). i dont recall how it was ever resolved or if she is possessed to this day.


Possessed by Helen Keller?

That is THE best fucking idea I've heard for a sitcom. Ever.

I'm getting some guys together, writing this up, getting it greenlit at Fox and I'm casting that big redhead from "That 70's Show" and maybe Yeardley Smith as the pentecostal best friend.

Hank Azaria as the Orthodox Jew neighbor going to grad school for molecular biology with an emphasis in neurochemistry.

We'll call it "Mrrmmm Ehnyeh Mrmrmrr Guh Nyeh".

This thing will run forever.

Well, to you it's an accident to the Demons it's on purpose.
And Jhan? WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU WANNA BE DEMON POSSESED?!?!?
Just outtta curiosity.

See, yeah, I don't want some incompetent Demon that wanders into me because he thought I was a Payday Loan place.

I want the Demon who fell first in his class, its horrific, vile, nightmarishly clever mind a storm of unimaginably malign brilliance, its very presence causing my puny mortal mentality to be evaporated, my body little more than the vessel of an inconceivable thing, doing....well, inconceivable things.

Why?

I dunno...resume booster, I suppose.

People used to beg to be killed if they thought they were turning into a windigo.

I take it you won't be voluntarily walking into an execution?

I'll cut a deal with the tribal leaders...offer to work security at the Casino as what they call a "cooler", an unlucky dude who walks by winning players and saps them of their fortune and fortuity.

So, I suppose most of you are either skeptical of my sincerity or you are categorically against deliberately inviting a demon to subsume me and take total control of my mind body and soul.

But, as an academic quesiton, if somebody wanted to become possessed by a demon, is that possible in your religion, and if so, how does one go about it in your belief system?

If your religion makes you uncomfortable discussing the mechanics of demon possession, feel free to opine on what demons are in your religion (literal vs. symbolic, fallen angel, other). I'd be interested in hearing from just about any devout followers, Christian, Muslim, whatever. By way of exception, no Scientologists, por favor.

For the unreligious folks, yes, this is absurd, but hardly moreso than many long and hearty threads on this board.

I'm a Christian, and I think that the whole "OMG! DEMON! GET THE HOLY WATER!" is a load of crap.

Nonetheless, I don't think there's any reason why a soul, spirit, life force can't exist in a different physical 'vessel' if you will.

I'll cut a deal with the tribal leaders...offer to work security at the Casino as what they call a "cooler", an unlucky dude who walks by winning players and saps them of their fortune and fortuity.

Hahahahahaha...I'd complain about your gross stereotyping of us except my reserve is building a casino too :D

Well, to you it's an accident to the Demons it's on purpose.Yes, but we are talking from the possessed's perspective here. The actual action is on behalf of the demons.

That would be cool if there was a "Demon Possession for Dummies" at Barnes and Noble...or an Occult section in the library, like in Treehouse of Horror.

Nothing like a live, interactive source, though.

Yes, but a truly religious person would not give you a step by step guide on how to place yourself in spiritual danger.

There's a big ol' internet out there -- google away.

http://search.nypl.org/search?q=occult&btnG=Search&site=default_collection&client=default_frontend&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&proxycustom=
What were you saying about libraries not having occult sections?

Hahahahahaha...I'd complain about your gross stereotyping of us except my reserve is building a casino too :D

You know who I like? The Piquat nation(sic?). I think they're in the northeast somewhere. Made a mint in pharmaceuticals or something. Wonder what their demons are like.

Just remember, Agent Dashiel Bad Horse, that you can't trust anybody.

Yes, but a truly religious person would not give you a step by step guide on how to place yourself in spiritual danger.

There's a big ol' internet out there -- google away.

http://search.nypl.org/search?q=occult&btnG=Search&site=default_collection&client=default_frontend&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&proxycustom=
What were you saying about libraries not having occult sections?

See, internet articles are so sterile and impersonal...I want a live response or barring that, some musty old book made out of goat skin or something...

Besides, it would be wicked cool if some kind of demon manifested on the jolt server, hungry for a soul, and it makes a nationstate to get me, but then it really likes the forums, and then we have a demon.

EDIT: Heehee...I just noticed that the site for the library you sent me...NYPL...it sounds like "nipple". That's awesome.

Seriously, though that is pretty cool. If I'm ever in New York, I'm totally going to check that.

You know who I like? The Piquat nation(sic?). I think they're in the northeast somewhere. Made a mint in pharmaceuticals or something. Wonder what their demons are like.

Just remember, Agent Dashiel Bad Horse, that you can't trust anybody.

Pequot in Connecticut, and they're the ones that have Foxwoods. You know, the largest casino in the world?
And the other tribe around here, the Mohicans, have the second biggest casino in the world, Mohegan Sun. And the Narragansetts just across the border in Rhode Island are trying to build a casino that's supposed to be bigger than Foxwoods. Same with the tribe over in New Haven.

That's a lot of casinos.

Pequot in Connecticut, and they're the ones that have Foxwoods. You know, the largest casino in the world?
And the other tribe around here, the Mohicans, have the second biggest casino in the world, Mohegan Sun. And the Narragansetts just across the border in Rhode Island are trying to build a casino that's supposed to be bigger than Foxwoods. Same with the tribe over in New Haven.

That's a lot of casinos.

But do they have legal prostitution only one county away?

Why, a scant hour or two drive away from Vegas, once you get out of Clark County, you can be in scenic Nye County, and have legal paid sex with middle aged women.

Foxwoods. If I gambled, I'd go.

Talk to a scientist.

Talk to a scientist.

Uh...like a biochemist specializing in commensal prokaryotes or something?

Not really demonic...

But do they have legal prostitution only one county away?

Why, a scant hour or two drive away from Vegas, once you get out of Clark County, you can be in scenic Nye County, and have legal paid sex with middle aged women.

Foxwoods. If I gambled, I'd go.

Who needs prostitution when you can buy casino skanks with a couple slot chips?

So, I suppose most of you are either skeptical of my sincerity or you are categorically against deliberately inviting a demon to subsume me and take total control of my mind body and soul.

But, as an academic quesiton, if somebody wanted to become possessed by a demon, is that possible in your religion, and if so, how does one go about it in your belief system?

If your religion makes you uncomfortable discussing the mechanics of demon possession, feel free to opine on what demons are in your religion (literal vs. symbolic, fallen angel, other). I'd be interested in hearing from just about any devout followers, Christian, Muslim, whatever. By way of exception, no Scientologists, por favor.

For the unreligious folks, yes, this is absurd, but hardly moreso than many long and hearty threads on this board.

Well, I can't in good conscience tell you how to get possessed, but I can offer a few tips for avoiding it as much as possible.

1) Do not ask an evil spirit to come into your self, into your place of residence, or anyone you know. This includes not performing summoning spells and avoiding occult rituals in general.

2) Do not accept magical protections that require payment, or allow spells to be performed on you, other people, or your property by anyone who doesn't wish you the best.

3) Do not fill your mind and heart with malevolent desires and thoughts.

Even if you do these things that are to be avoided, there's no guarantee that a possession will result. Look for a scientific explanation before a demonic one if you encounter anything unusual.

Who needs prostitution when you can buy casino skanks with a couple slot chips?

Is that really true? Can you really nail casino bunnies for the price of a few hands of blackjack?

Road trip...

Well, I can't in good conscience tell you how to get possessed, but I can offer a few tips for avoiding it as much as possible.

1) Do not ask an evil spirit to come into your self, into your place of residence, or anyone you know. This includes not performing summoning spells and avoiding occult rituals in general.

2) Do not accept magical protections that require payment, or allow spells to be performed on you, other people, or your property by anyone who doesn't wish you the best.

3) Do not fill your mind and heart with malevolent desires and thoughts.

Even if you do these things that are to be avoided, there's no guarantee that a possession will result. Look for a scientific explanation before a demonic one if you encounter anything unusual.


Well, nothing in life is guaranteed, except for 30 days against manufacturer defect on this melon baller I got for Christmas.

So, lessee...ask, perform spells, pay for magical protection, let a guy bless my lawn that wishes me better, but not the best, and fill my mind with malevolence.

That last one is going to be hard. I really lack the discipline and focus for actual malevolence...can I fill myself with something sinful but less intense? Sloth or something?

Seriously, though that is pretty cool. If I'm ever in New York, I'm totally going to check that.

Point being, Mr. Lazy, the information is out there if you want it -- and should be in a library in your city too.

Jeez, used to be someone wanted a demon, he'd actually work at getting his attention. Kids these days, they want it all handed to them. Fortunate they can't be texted, I suppose.

Or maybe...

Have you tried dialing 666-3666? (666-DMON)

Is that really true? Can you really nail casino bunnies for the price of a few hands of blackjack?

Road trip...

Let me put it this way:
After 11 o'clock on a weekend, EVERYONE's drunk. Also, every single 21 year old female in New England celebrates her birthday there.

Very interesting question.

I have one of my own. If the devil controls hell, why wouldn't it be possible for me to make a deal with the devil that ensures I have a nice place in hell that I like? I always thought about that.

The only response I've gotten is "the devil will just lie to you". Which seems pretty realistic if there is a devil.

But say the devil wouldn't lie, could I do that?

Point being, Mr. Lazy, the information is out there if you want it -- and should be in a library in your city too.

Jeez, used to be someone wanted a demon, he'd actually work at getting his attention. Kids these days, they want it all handed to them. Fortunate they can't be texted, I suppose.

Or maybe...

Have you tried dialing 666-3666? (666-DMON)

I'm supposed to be lazy, sloth is one of the sins. If I were a diligent student, I'd eventually graduate and have to get a job.

Even texting is a lot of fucking work, I have one of those cheap phones with no full keyboard.

Really, though, I've gotten some decent responses. The native thing is cool, and the one dude talking about not paying for magical protection...that's good to know.

Well, nothing in life is guaranteed, except for 30 days against manufacturer defect on this melon baller I got for Christmas.

So, lessee...ask, perform spells, pay for magical protection, let a guy bless my lawn that wishes me better, but not the best, and fill my mind with malevolence.

That last one is going to be hard. I really lack the discipline and focus for actual malevolence...can I fill myself with something sinful but less intense? Sloth or something?

Judging from your lack of interest in doing research, you're probably well on your way to having the sloth already.

That said, being sinful by itself has little to do with it. Lots of people are sinful but don't experience a possession. It takes an act of the will to invite that kind of evil into your life, and even among those who do invite such evil in, full-blown possessions are not the most frequent result.

Very interesting question.

I have one of my own. If the devil controls hell, why wouldn't it be possible for me to make a deal with the devil that ensures I have a nice place in hell that I like? I always thought about that.

The only response I've gotten is "the devil will just lie to you". Which seems pretty realistic if there is a devil.

But say the devil wouldn't lie, could I do that?

See, what if the devil doesn't give a shit whether you suffer or not? I know he/she is supposed to be the Great Enemy of mankind or whatever, but what if he's willing to give you a decent condo and central air conditioning, and in exchange, you have to play backgammon with his weird cousin harold once a week.

Let me put it this way:
After 11 o'clock on a weekend, EVERYONE's drunk. Also, every single 21 year old female in New England celebrates her birthday there.

Cool, cause I'm one of those guys that needs the tri-fecta of promiscuity...I need a girl who's drunk but still able to give reasonable consent, fat but still fit enough to be on top, and has no boyfriend but also doesn't want one.

So, I suppose most of you are either skeptical of my sincerity or you are categorically against deliberately inviting a demon to subsume me and take total control of my mind body and soul.
...

I'd be interested in hearing from just about any devout followers, Christian, Muslim, whatever. By way of exception, no Scientologists, por favor.



It is fairly difficult to track down the devil himself in order to make a contract with him, because he tends to be fairly busy in this world of ours and in his constant struggle against the Lord. A much easier way is simply to hate.

I'd be one of those categorically no way people...

In terms of belief system: I'm a Mormon and have learned that demons are the spirits who were cast out of heaven with Lucifer way back in the day. (For you number crunchers out there, that's 1/3 of the host of Heaven. The other 2/3 became us humans.)

So Demons exist, and since they're spiritual beings, CAN posess people (Like in the New Testament)


As for how to get it to happen. You're thinking about it all wrong. Neither Satan nor his demons give a damn what you want or how you want it. If you're into hate and all that stuff then they don't need to posess you, you're doing just fine without them. If taking you by posession somehow fits into their plans then they'll do it (If they can) otherwise they won't.

And you'd be foolish to invite it. Satan is all about taking away your freedom to choose ANYTHING. You get posessed, you're doing it his way, period. Most people enjoy watching movies like The Exorcist or the Exorcism of Emily Rose (myself included) but think of this: What's the biggest harm visited upon the person being posessed? Is it physical injury? Is it the emotional stress? Is it the impact on their life? To all of that I'd say no. The biggest harm is that while you're posessed, you lose your ability to make your own choices. That, to me, is the most unsettling part of the idea of posession.

I think your supposed to make some deal with the Devil for personal gain first. Or become a Hollywood actor. Either one works.

QFT

Judging from your lack of interest in doing research, you're probably well on your way to having the sloth already.

That said, being sinful by itself has little to do with it. Lots of people are sinful but don't experience a possession. It takes an act of the will to invite that kind of evil into your life, and even among those who do invite such evil in, full-blown possessions are not the most frequent result.

Wow, how humbling is that, to deliberate invite a demon to take you over, and get no takers.

Dude: Oh, demon, I summon thee, come unto me, into me!

Demon: Hey.

Dude: Possess me!

Demon: Yeah, hang on, though.

Dude: Come, now! I offer myself as your vessel!

Demon: Well...thing is...you aren't really a good host.

Dude: ....what?

Demon: Well, my infernal urge is corrupt the holy and virtuous. You, uh...is that a copy of Hustler from 1978?

Dude: Yeah, so?

Demon: So, nothing, right, okay...listen, I'm supposed to possess powerful individuals and use them to further the decay of society to hasten the coming of...you can turn lights on, the candles aren't really necessary.

Dude: My electricity was turned off.

Demon: I see.

Dude: Are you going to possess me or not?

Demon: Look, man, my job is to thrust mortals into the wretched depths of despair and...okay, seriously, is that a half eaten chunk of uncooked ramen noodles?

Dude: Yeah. If you don't cook it, its like a big cookie.

Demon: Okay, fuck this, bye.

Obviously you should play D&D while reading Harry Potter >_>

Obviously you should play D&D while reading Harry Potter >_>

UH-oh I'm screwed then...

I'd be one of those categorically no way people...

In terms of belief system: I'm a Mormon and have learned that demons are the spirits who were cast out of heaven with Lucifer way back in the day. (For you number crunchers out there, that's 1/3 of the host of Heaven. The other 2/3 became us humans.)

So Demons exist, and since they're spiritual beings, CAN posess people (Like in the New Testament)

As for how to get it to happen. You're thinking about it all wrong. Neither Satan nor his demons give a damn what you want or how you want it. If you're into hate and all that stuff then they don't need to posess you, you're doing just fine without them. If taking you by posession somehow fits into their plans then they'll do it (If they can) otherwise they won't.

And you'd be foolish to invite it. Satan is all about taking away your freedom to choose ANYTHING. You get posessed, you're doing it his way, period. Most people enjoy watching movies like The Exorcist or the Exorcism of Emily Rose (myself included) but think of this: What's the biggest harm visited upon the person being posessed? Is it physical injury? Is it the emotional stress? Is it the impact on their life? To all of that I'd say no. The biggest harm is that while you're posessed, you lose your ability to make your own choices. That, to me, is the most unsettling part of the idea of posession.

QFT

Huh...I wonder if, in the pre-mortal existence, in the Grand Council of Heaven, Heavenly Father came to me and said "Hey, thanks for the vote, listen, at some point in your mortal life on earth you're going to want to be demon possessed for some stupid-ass reason, you'll probably lose your agency and wind up, at worst a pawn of the Adversary and at best...well, there isn't really a good outcome on this one. Do you want to change your vote and just leave with the others now?"

And I went "No, no, honestly, I have no plans for that."

And God said "Well, the thing is, when you're given a physical body, a veil will be drawn over your eyes, you won't remember any of this."

ANd I said "I'm sure it will all be cool."

Obviously you should play D&D while reading Harry Potter >_>

Jesus, I haven't played D and D since THACOs...

Huh...I wonder if, in the pre-mortal existence, in the Grand Council of Heaven, Heavenly Father came to me and said "Hey, thanks for the vote, listen, at some point in your mortal life on earth you're going to want to be demon possessed for some stupid-ass reason, you'll probably lose your agency and wind up, at worst a pawn of the Adversary and at best...well, there isn't really a good outcome on this one. Do you want to change your vote and just leave with the others now?"

And I went "No, no, honestly, I have no plans for that."

And God said "Well, the thing is, when you're given a physical body, a veil will be drawn over your eyes, you won't remember any of this."

ANd I said "I'm sure it will all be cool."

:D

Jesus, I haven't played D and D since THACOs...

I STILL do. As the DM I've decided that my group will only play First Edition.
We do not acknowledge the existence of that foo-foo WOTC bastardism.

Make an ad on craiglist. Wanted: One or more demons

I STILL do. As the DM I've decided that my group will only play First Edition.
We do not acknowledge the existence of that foo-foo WOTC bastardism.

Wow, an orthodox D&Der, that's sweet. You guys should bumrush the conventions with your brand of revival dungeon crawling.

Seriously, I can't so much get into the new edition stuff, either. I don't really play anymore, of course, but if I did, I think I'd play old school. Might be harder to find manuals and stuff, and even I"m not too lazy to write up original stuff and let the group improvise.

Geez, Jack Chick and the Jesus Campers claim that just playing D&D should load me chock full of demons...wonder what the fuck happened, did I play the wrong character class?

Shouldn't have been a Halfling...nobody wants to possess a halfling.

Make an ad on craiglist. Wanted: One or more demons

They have that section, its called Women Seeking Men....

Okay, that was sexist and uncalled for. I apologize.

You know who I like? The Piquat nation(sic?). I think they're in the northeast somewhere. Made a mint in pharmaceuticals or something. Wonder what their demons are like.

Just remember, Agent Dashiel Bad Horse, that you can't trust anybody.

My brother lives near Mystic, CT and his in-laws love Foxwoods.

Foxwoods. If I gambled, I'd go.

Overrated.

Cool, cause I'm one of those guys that needs the tri-fecta of promiscuity...I need a girl who's drunk but still able to give reasonable consent, fat but still fit enough to be on top, and has no boyfriend but also doesn't want one.

You sir, are a poet and have a decidedly unbenighted perspective on life. You have my respect. (You're also why I'm cleaning orange juice expectorate off my monitor.

You bastid.)

Wow, an orthodox D&Der, that's sweet. You guys should bumrush the conventions with your brand of revival dungeon crawling.
Wait until 4.0 when WotC have beat the game like a red-headed step child, then people may be more keen on going back in time.

As far as I can tell, the only proven course of action would be to marry Bill Clinton and then run for President!

As a Bible believing Christian, I absolutely believe in demon possession. That being said, I do not think that there are things you can do to become possessed (then again, there may certainly be ways that I am as yet unaware). Also, I believe demon-possession would follow the terms given in the Bible: muteness, deafness, terrible shakes, things of ill-nature, rather than a possession that would allow one to physically benefit.

Someone mentioned the 'get the holy water' idea... holy water is a load of crap... it's not like it becomes BH2O (B='blessed'). There is no supernatural power that the Pope innately has over water that he can somehow grant his benediction on it (yeah... a benediction on water... ridiculous...) that channels the force of said water towards the aims of Christ... in fact, such a statement, or belief makes no sense to any conventional view of Jesus' teachings... or the Christian faith in general, but what do you do.

Back to the OP, if you get said demon possession, and desire a change of pace, just send me a PM or telegram or something, and I will happily remove it's presence for you.

My brother lives near Mystic, CT and his in-laws love Foxwoods.

Overrated.

You sir, are a poet and have a decidedly unbenighted perspective on life. You have my respect. (You're also why I'm cleaning orange juice expectorate off my monitor.

You bastid.)

Unbenighted...this is one of those times when I'm going to have to wiki up.

hang on, opening other window...

Wow, cool, thanks. You educated me and grew my vocabulary.

So now, I'm even more unbenighted...less benighted...more or less unben...okay, hang on, gotta open the other window....

Wait until 4.0 when WotC have beat the game like a red-headed step child, then people may be more keen on going back in time.

Oh, jaysis, is that in the works? They going to pull a White Wolf and reshuffle everything to up sales?

As far as I can tell, the only proven course of action would be to marry Bill Clinton and then run for President!

Dude on dude polygamy? Anyway, I can't run, I'm not old enough.

This is a short term project, unless the demon that takes me is able to make me age at some kind of controlled rate.

Wow, an orthodox D&Der, that's sweet. You guys should bumrush the conventions with your brand of revival dungeon crawling.

Seriously, I can't so much get into the new edition stuff, either. I don't really play anymore, of course, but if I did, I think I'd play old school. Might be harder to find manuals and stuff, and even I"m not too lazy to write up original stuff and let the group improvise.

Geez, Jack Chick and the Jesus Campers claim that just playing D&D should load me chock full of demons...wonder what the fuck happened, did I play the wrong character class?

Shouldn't have been a Halfling...nobody wants to possess a halfling.

Meh, finding manuals is easy and cheap: eBay. You can get the modules too and not have to make up anything ;)

We had a Bishop once who let us meet to play D&D in the church on Friday nights. Good times.

Wait until 4.0 when WotC have beat the game like a red-headed step child, then people may be more keen on going back in time.

As if that hadn't already been done with 3.0 and 3.5 :mad:

Oh, jaysis, is that in the works? They going to pull a White Wolf and reshuffle everything to up sales?

I think they're trying to make D&D more like the bastard child of an MMO and a CCG.

As a Bible believing Christian, I absolutely believe in demon possession. That being said, I do not think that there are things you can do to become possessed (then again, there may certainly be ways that I am as yet unaware). Also, I believe demon-possession would follow the terms given in the Bible: muteness, deafness, terrible shakes, things of ill-nature, rather than a possession that would allow one to physically benefit.

Someone mentioned the 'get the holy water' idea... holy water is a load of crap... it's not like it becomes BH2O (B='blessed'). There is no supernatural power that the Pope innately has over water that he can somehow grant his benediction on it (yeah... a benediction on water... ridiculous...) that channels the force of said water towards the aims of Christ... in fact, such a statement, or belief makes no sense to any conventional view of Jesus' teachings... or the Christian faith in general, but what do you do.

Back to the OP, if you get said demon possession, and desire a change of pace, just send me a PM or telegram or something, and I will happily remove it's presence for you.

Hmm...mute, deaf...might be good research for the Helen Keller sitcom we're planning, but it doesn't up my chances of scoring decent trim at the casino this weekend. Damn it, what is up with all my lame sexist comments? Maybe I'm already possessed by the spirit of a white guy with a fro who drives a 'vette and refers to women as "trim".

Oh, jaysis, is that in the works? They going to pull a White Wolf and reshuffle everything to up sales?

They're adding a HUGE online tabletop thing... made for people who play over the internet I think, huge digital DM tools (dungeon uilding, monster editing, character movement... everything)

I think they're trying to make D&D more like the bastard child of an MMO and a CCG.

In all this talk of demons and devils, you are the first to really make me afraid.

There is evil in this world.

In all this talk of demons and devils, you are the first to really make me afraid.There is evil in this world.

You should be. Remember, this is a world where World of Warcraft and Everquest have tabletop RPG incarnations.

You should be. Remember, this is a world where World of Warcraft and Everquest have tabletop RPG incarnations.

That's it. I'm moving to Guyana and forming a Rifts/Palladium based commune.

That's it. I'm moving to Guyana and forming a Rifts/Palladium based commune.

I'm in if I can play my Veritech Pilot from Robotech...

I'm in if I can play my Veritech Pilot from Robotech...

Oh, the Guyana Air Force is going to love you trotting around in a fucking transforming jet plane...on the other hand, we have a military now.

So, I suppose most of you are either skeptical of my sincerity or you are categorically against deliberately inviting a demon to subsume me and take total control of my mind body and soul.

But, as an academic quesiton, if somebody wanted to become possessed by a demon, is that possible in your religion, and if so, how does one go about it in your belief system?

If your religion makes you uncomfortable discussing the mechanics of demon possession, feel free to opine on what demons are in your religion (literal vs. symbolic, fallen angel, other). I'd be interested in hearing from just about any devout followers, Christian, Muslim, whatever. By way of exception, no Scientologists, por favor.

For the unreligious folks, yes, this is absurd, but hardly moreso than many long and hearty threads on this board.
I think I like you. You're funny, and you have good grammar. ;)

A couple of thoughts after reading the thread:

1) I'm thinking the easiest way to get possessed by a demon would be to hang around with you. You strike me as the kind of person who attracts all kinds of trouble, and I mean that as compliment.

2) Any old book can be bound in goat skin. The ones you want are bound in human skin. Look for faded tattoos under the gold-leafed embossing.

3) In my religious belief system (animism), few things are easier than becoming possessed by a demon -- though we prefer to call them evil spirits. They're endemic in the environment, you know.

They can get into you against your will if you do the wrong thing at whatever place they call home. What that wrong thing is, is almost never put up on a warning sign or anything. It could be something obvious which a prudent person should have known might cause trouble, like having sex on a fresh grave, or something totally random, like stepping on the wrong paving stone in a path while wearing shoes or not wearing shoes and whistling the 3rd movement of Beethoven's 7th Symphony on a Wednesday.

You can also make a deal with them to be possessed. Usually, the evil spirit will notice you passing by, be attracted by some maladjustment in your own spirit, and offer to share its power with you if you'll share yours with it, so that you may both obtain your desires (usually for revenge or power or sex). Likewise, if you're the one needing power, you can seek out such a demon and offer such a deal, but you're more likely to be forced into a disadvantageous arrangement then.

Unlike a lot of belief systems, possession in animism is not always a bad thing. If you are spiritually strong enough, you might even purify an evil spirit's powers to make them a good thing in the world. And of course, not only evil spirits possess people. Good spirits and gods do, too, and who wouldn't want that? In some animist religions, people seek to get possessed every week.

You can transform yourself into a spirit (good, bad or indifferent), too, no possession required. All you have to do is just be whatever it is you are completely and intensely enough, and eventually, the transformation will occur (though usually after you die). If your main "sin" (animists have problems with sin concepts) is sloth, this should be easy for you. :) Luckily for you, your name is already rather demonish -- pretty to look at, hard to type, and tricky to figure out how to pronounce. Jhahannam, Demon of Sloth. Don't bother summoning him; he won't show up.

I should actually clarify something. I said getting possessed is easy in animism, and that's true, in a way. Getting possessed is easy. Convincing a spirit to possess you is not always so easy. Remember those half-eaten ramen cookies. Style matters. So does the demon's personal agenda. You just might not fit into his list of things to do that month. Relatively few animists go about possessed because, well, spirits tend to ignore the general population just as much as the general population tends to ignore them. We all have things to do and places to go, after all.

We had a Bishop once who let us meet to play D&D in the church on Friday nights. Good times.


Irony. :D

I think I like you. You're funny, and you have good grammar. ;)

A couple of thoughts after reading the thread:

1) I'm thinking the easiest way to get possessed by a demon would be to hang around with you. You strike me as the kind of person who attracts all kinds of trouble, and I mean that as compliment.

2) Any old book can be bound in goat skin. The ones you want are bound in human skin. Look for faded tattoos under the gold-leafed embossing.

3) In my religious belief system (animism), few things are easier than becoming possessed by a demon -- though we prefer to call them evil spirits. They're endemic in the environment, you know.

They can get into you against your will if you do the wrong thing at whatever place they call home. What that wrong thing is, is almost never put up on a warning sign or anything. It could be something obvious which a prudent person should have known might cause trouble, like having sex on a fresh grave, or something totally random, like stepping on the wrong paving stone in a path while wearing shoes or not wearing shoes and whistling the 3rd movement of Beethoven's 7th Symphony on a Wednesday.

You can also make a deal with them to be possessed. Usually, the evil spirit will notice you passing by, be attracted by some maladjustment in your own spirit, and offer to share its power with you if you'll share yours with it, so that you may both obtain your desires (usually for revenge or power or sex). Likewise, if you're the one needing power, you can seek out such a demon and offer such a deal, but you're more likely to be forced into a disadvantageous arrangement then.

Unlike a lot of belief systems, possession in animism is not always a bad thing. If you are spiritually strong enough, you might even purify an evil spirit's powers to make them a good thing in the world. And of course, not only evil spirits possess people. Good spirits and gods do, too, and who wouldn't want that? In some animist religions, people seek to get possessed every week.

You can transform yourself into a spirit (good, bad or indifferent), too, no possession required. All you have to do is just be whatever it is you are completely and intensely enough, and eventually, the transformation will occur (though usually after you die). If your main "sin" (animists have problems with sin concepts) is sloth, this should be easy for you. :) Luckily for you, your name is already rather demonish -- pretty to look at, hard to type, and tricky to figure out how to pronounce. Jhahannam, Demon of Sloth. Don't bother summoning him; he won't show up.

I should actually clarify something. I said getting possessed is easy in animism, and that's true, in a way. Getting possessed is easy. Convincing a spirit to possess you is not always so easy. Remember those half-eaten ramen cookies. Style matters. So does the demon's personal agenda. You just might not fit into his list of things to do that month. Relatively few animists go about possessed because, well, spirits tend to ignore the general population just as much as the general population tends to ignore them. We all have things to do and places to go, after all.

Hm, I get a long, knowledgeable answer right as I'm going to bed....okay, I'm gonna come back to this another night. Thanks in advance!

Irony. :D

Hehe totally.

The way he saw it, the youth of the congregation could certainly do worse than to spend their Friday evenings in a place where they were safe, their parents knew who they were with, where they were and hat they were doing, and were supervised by trustworthy adults.

Mind you, that level of clear-headedness can be rare at times, and he did take some grief from some paranoid folks, but in the end it all worked out well.

Oh i know! First you need to move to Georgia, learn to play a fiddle really really well then for some reason you need to sit on a hickorey stump and then the Devil will challenge you to a contest for your soul. With the price of gold today however, i might consider trying to win the fiddle instead.

Option #2: Try LSD or PCP, that will get you some demon possessions!

Wow, how humbling is that, to deliberate invite a demon to take you over, and get no takers.

Dude: Oh, demon, I summon thee, come unto me, into me!

Demon: Hey.

Dude: Possess me!

Demon: Yeah, hang on, though.

Dude: Come, now! I offer myself as your vessel!

Demon: Well...thing is...you aren't really a good host.

Dude: ....what?

Demon: Well, my infernal urge is corrupt the holy and virtuous. You, uh...is that a copy of Hustler from 1978?

Dude: Yeah, so?

Demon: So, nothing, right, okay...listen, I'm supposed to possess powerful individuals and use them to further the decay of society to hasten the coming of...you can turn lights on, the candles aren't really necessary.

Dude: My electricity was turned off.

Demon: I see.

Dude: Are you going to possess me or not?

Demon: Look, man, my job is to thrust mortals into the wretched depths of despair and...okay, seriously, is that a half eaten chunk of uncooked ramen noodles?

Dude: Yeah. If you don't cook it, its like a big cookie.

Demon: Okay, fuck this, bye.

That's actually very close to what I imagined your request for demonic possession would end up like. :)

I would suggest the combination of a special event (honeymoon, holiday, birthday, etc.) and menopause. I have not yet experienced the phenomenon, but it works for my wife every time!

I would suggest the combination of a special event (honeymoon, holiday, birthday, etc.) and menopause. I have not yet experienced the phenomenon, but it works for my wife every time!

/thread

Voodoo, Wicca, Astrology, "Majick" all that crazy shit. Get involved in that, read up on some demons, Satanism and whatnot. Not watered down La Vey, find the real things, Black Book shit. Maybe break out the ouiji boards.

Even if you were possessed by a demon, you probably wouldn't even realize it. They wouldn't usually manifest directly like you see in the movies unless someone tried to draw them out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTPq9-Zw0XE

I don't rightly know why you'd want to get possessed.

Voodoo, Wicca, Astrology, "Majick" all that crazy shit. Get involved in that, read up on some demons, Satanism and whatnot. Not watered down La Vey, find the real things, Black Book shit. Maybe break out the ouiji boards.

Even if you were possessed by a demon, you probably wouldn't even realize it. They wouldn't usually manifest directly like you see in the movies unless someone tried to draw them out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTPq9-Zw0XE

I don't rightly know why you'd want to get possessed.

La Vey: Poser

..you can buy casino skanks with a couple slot chips?
Let me put it this way:
After 11 o'clock on a weekend, EVERYONE's drunk. Also, every single 21 year old female in New England celebrates her birthday there.where?

*hand reaching for da GPS* :D

Hmm. Well, you could always try the Book of E-Ville.

snip...

After you figure out how to get possessed I suggest you tag along with those TV shows "Paranormal State" or "Ghost Hunters". They always seem to be able to find the spirits. Paranormal State specifically does shows on the more evil spirits out there. You could get possessed on national TV. You would be a reality TV star!

Getting a demon to enter your body requires seven steps:

Express interest in being possessed by a demon. You've already done this, so you are already on your way!
Do something very evil. Murdering your mother, sleeping with your mother, eating your mother...anything that would make you an outcast of heaven.
Chant demonic verses, in Latin or Hebrew.
Write up a contract between yourself and Satan, promising your loyalty to whatever demon he sends in exchange for amazing demonic powers. Sign in blood, and be sure to have a notary.
Become a Unitarian.
Carve a pentagram into your forehead.
Sacrifice a goat or a Christian to seal the deal.

Congratulations! You are now possessed by Satan, or at least one of his underlings.

There's always the Keys of Solomon, purported to be able to control both angels and demons. Since what I've seen of them is fragmentary and insanely complicated, failure is pretty much guaranteed! And failing when trying to call/bind a demon often results in a pissed off demon, which may like what he/she/it sees on the other side of the circle. Possession! Or, possibly, a pissed off demon wandering around your neighborhood, which may or may not be noticed. I know it wouldn't be noticed on our block, but we live in a crappy neighborhood.

They can get into you against your will if you do the wrong thing at whatever place they call home. What that wrong thing is, is almost never put up on a warning sign or anything. It could be something obvious which a prudent person should have known might cause trouble, like having sex on a fresh grave, or something totally random, like stepping on the wrong paving stone in a path while wearing shoes or not wearing shoes and whistling the 3rd movement of Beethoven's 7th Symphony on a Wednesday.


COP: Why are you smoking in a hospital?

ME: I'm trying to agitate a spirit.

COP: Like compressed oxygen?

ME: I think that's a myth, sir. Want a hit?


You can also make a deal with them to be possessed. Usually, the evil spirit will notice you passing by, be attracted by some maladjustment in your own spirit, and offer to share its power with you if you'll share yours with it, so that you may both obtain your desires (usually for revenge or power or sex). Likewise, if you're the one needing power, you can seek out such a demon and offer such a deal, but you're more likely to be forced into a disadvantageous arrangement then.

Shit, this is a problem for me, as I'm an unpracticed negotiator at best. Do animist spirits have the same notoriety for adept dealing as in other religions?



Unlike a lot of belief systems, possession in animism is not always a bad thing. If you are spiritually strong enough, you might even purify an evil spirit's powers to make them a good thing in the world. And of course, not only evil spirits possess people. Good spirits and gods do, too, and who wouldn't want that? In some animist religions, people seek to get possessed every week.

You can transform yourself into a spirit (good, bad or indifferent), too, no possession required. All you have to do is just be whatever it is you are completely and intensely enough, and eventually, the transformation will occur (though usually after you die). If your main "sin" (animists have problems with sin concepts) is sloth, this should be easy for you. :) Luckily for you, your name is already rather demonish -- pretty to look at, hard to type, and tricky to figure out how to pronounce. Jhahannam, Demon of Sloth. Don't bother summoning him; he won't show up.

I should actually clarify something. I said getting possessed is easy in animism, and that's true, in a way. Getting possessed is easy. Convincing a spirit to possess you is not always so easy. Remember those half-eaten ramen cookies. Style matters. So does the demon's personal agenda. You just might not fit into his list of things to do that month. Relatively few animists go about possessed because, well, spirits tend to ignore the general population just as much as the general population tends to ignore them. We all have things to do and places to go, after all.

Hmm...this is a good lead. Wonder if I can find somebody local who has actually been "ridden" by a spirit. Problem is, I don't imagine that I'm "spiritually strong", as you put it...wonder if they have starter spirits.

Does animism have any kind of catalog of demons, are there so many spirits in everything that it would be impractical to enumerate them?

Anyway, thanks for a helpful post, I'll start running down "animism".

hmmm.. i've been researching this subject...the following article only describes what a demon is..and unfortunately only how to exorcise it is described
Make sense of the rest:
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Demon#See_Also
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Exorcism

But, as an academic quesiton, if somebody wanted to become possessed by a demon, is that possible in your religion, and if so, how does one go about it in your belief system?
Well you start by asking the Beatles?

Devil In Her Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JE48ackOhU)

:D

Back in the day, I was obsessed with the paranormal stuff. You name it, I went looking for it. Ive gotten to see all sorts of stuff, and been present while "supernatural" events were transpiring.

Most of it, was bullshit.

Especially the excorcism.

See, most of them that are done, are not done by the Catholic Church. Rome takes a dim view of that stuff, and while they do occasionally perform the ritual, you'd better have Pazuzu in your head before they'll take you seriously. They've had a LOT of scandal in the last few years, and they dont need the embarrassment.

Most of them are done by Evangelicals, and Southern Baptists.

However, while I'd rather not begin debating the supernatural, I have yet to see an excorcism , either personally, or on tape, that wasnt bullshit. You can usually tell becuase these people are truly bad actors, and no demon would ever look so retarded.

COP: Why are you smoking in a hospital?

ME: I'm trying to agitate a spirit.

COP: Like compressed oxygen?

ME: I think that's a myth, sir. Want a hit?
Yeah, that's pretty much how it goes.

Shit, this is a problem for me, as I'm an unpracticed negotiator at best. Do animist spirits have the same notoriety for adept dealing as in other religions?
Well, I'm not sure how sharp the spirits of other religions are supposed to be. In animism, there are spirits of the law, the courts, the legal system, and lawyers past/present/future, as well as spirits in charge of binding arbitration, contractual clauses, government, bookkeeping, etc, etc, etc. I suppose a spirit that was unsure of its own ability to negotiate with you could always call upon one of them, but then, so could you.

Hmm...this is a good lead. Wonder if I can find somebody local who has actually been "ridden" by a spirit. Problem is, I don't imagine that I'm "spiritually strong", as you put it...wonder if they have starter spirits.

Does animism have any kind of catalog of demons, are there so many spirits in everything that it would be impractical to enumerate them?
The latter. In animist belief, spirits are everywhere. Every thing and every being has, is, and/or could be/become a spirit of some kind or another. I mean everything, from the most impressive volcano down to the most ordinary blade of grass. Many animist religions even include man-made objects in the roster. It makes for a very crowded spiritual cosmos, but useful for you, if you're looking to become possessed. Lots of opportunities.

As for starter spirits, remember, just as you can transform your own spirit into a demonic form, so can anyone/anything else. It's unlikely that they will all be of the same impressiveness as the big otherworldly celebrities. I saw an anime once about a cell phone spirit that became so enraged and distraught over being used by faithless lovers to send cowardly voicemail break-up messages, that it became transformed into a rampaging demon, although there really wasn't much it could do beside running around yelling at people. Its demonic energy was dissipated when the heroes figured out some way of placating it, but I can't remember what that was. Keep that in mind. ;) (Btw, Shinto, the official national religion of Japan, birthplace of anime, is the most organized animistic religion in the world today.)

Anyway, thanks for a helpful post, I'll start running down "animism".
See, also, Shinto and shamanism (especially Korean, Siberian and Mongolian) and, possibly, voudoun (though there are some differences).

You dont have to summon whats already there. If you need an introduction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id%2C_ego%2C_and_super-ego

There it is under "Id". Thats the inner demon that seperates us all, or the majority of us, from righteousness.

"IN SOVIET RUSSIA YOU POSSESS DEMON!"
sorry.

I guess you could try painting yourself red, i wonder if demons can be possessed, if there are any.

Back in the day, I was obsessed with the paranormal stuff. You name it, I went looking for it. Ive gotten to see all sorts of stuff, and been present while "supernatural" events were transpiring.

Most of it, was bullshit.

Especially the excorcism.

See, most of them that are done, are not done by the Catholic Church. Rome takes a dim view of that stuff, and while they do occasionally perform the ritual, you'd better have Pazuzu in your head before they'll take you seriously. They've had a LOT of scandal in the last few years, and they dont need the embarrassment.

Most of them are done by Evangelicals, and Southern Baptists.

However, while I'd rather not begin debating the supernatural, I have yet to see an excorcism , either personally, or on tape, that wasnt bullshit. You can usually tell becuase these people are truly bad actors, and no demon would ever look so retarded.

Yeah, I don't think I want the growly, facially contorted pissy demon. I'd think any demon that has his/her shit in one sock would be sufficiently subtle and surreptitious so as not to be so evident to anybody that could really "cast it out".

I think Excorism is fine for cinema (I might be the only guy who liked Excorcist III w/George C. Scott) but I don't foresee showing up at a revival to get my demon out.

Follow the people who make that bullshit show "Paranormal State." They're always going into demonic houses and one of them inevitably gets possessed, so your odds should be pretty good.

Follow the people who make that bullshit show "Paranormal State." They're always going into demonic houses and one of them inevitably gets possessed, so your odds should be pretty good.

Ive seen every episode of that so far.

At first, I was hoping that they were going to actually try to document that sort of stuff on tape. However, the overtly religious nature of the show made me soon realize that wasnt about science its about religion. In the last episode I saw they performed a "cleansing ritual", while the "pagan", invoked HEBREW angels.

Then, when I saw Lorraine Warren show up, I knew this show for what it was.

Lorraine Warren, and her deceased husband, Ed, were two of the "experts" called in at the Amityville Horror home. These folks were, and still are...frauds.

Judaism doesn't believe in demons, per se. Certainly not ones that can possess you. Humans can be nasty enough.

There are two possibilities here. One is that demons don't exist - in which case, the worst that can happen to you is that you look and sound silly. The other is that demons do exist, in which case, you're s.o.l.

I think your supposed to make some deal with the Devil for personal gain first. Or become a Hollywood actor. Or become a republican.

Study Hindu Tantra - especially the cult of Shaktism (Mother Goddess Worship). Do it WITHOUT a guru and make sure to do everything wrong. This is what the common Shakta wouldn't do in order to be safe from "spirits".

I don't believe in demon possession, but that stuff is still scary to me.
Wow, that's interesting. It would explain a few things from my past that would make me tend to agree with you.
n/k

I can't even impersonate Christopher Walken.
What about Shatner?

Judaism doesn't believe in demons, per se. Certainly not ones that can possess you. Humans can be nasty enough.

Aw, man, no dybbuks or anything? What a gip...

You're right about humans being nasty, but posessing me wouldn't be useful to a human...maybe my kidneys or something, I guess.

There are two possibilities here. One is that demons don't exist - in which case, the worst that can happen to you is that you look and sound silly. The other is that demons do exist, in which case, you're s.o.l.

I think I usually already look and sound silly, this isn't any worse then the usual, so its not a high incremental cost.

On the (way) off chance that there are demons, I'm bummed, since they don't seem to be interested, which is probably fortunate but still somehow insulting.

Demon: Dude, piss off, we're not coming.

ME: Why? I'm offering you my body to possess!

Demon: Okay, a) get thee to a gymnasium and b)doing it voluntarily just defeats the whole purpose here.

ME: But, with me as a vessel, you could revel in the pleasures of the flesh!

Demon: Like what, cheetos and masturbation? If I want an incarnation to rub one off in, I'll possess Courtney Love and at least have a budget for my depradations.

I want the Demon who fell first in his class, its horrific, vile, nightmarishly clever mind a storm of unimaginably malign brilliance, its very presence causing my puny mortal mentality to be evaporated, my body little more than the vessel of an inconceivable thing, doing....well, inconceivable things.

Azazel, more like, eh?

What about Shatner?

(drops to knees, clenches fists and shouts Khaaaaaaaaan!!!!)

(drops to knees, clenches fists and shouts Khaaaaaaaaan!!!!)

It seems you were misleading us earlier, then. :(

Ive seen every episode of that so far.

At first, I was hoping that they were going to actually try to document that sort of stuff on tape. However, the overtly religious nature of the show made me soon realize that wasnt about science its about religion. In the last episode I saw they performed a "cleansing ritual", while the "pagan", invoked HEBREW angels.

Then, when I saw Lorraine Warren show up, I knew this show for what it was.

Lorraine Warren, and her deceased husband, Ed, were two of the "experts" called in at the Amityville Horror home. These folks were, and still are...frauds.

Be cool if Ed haunted Lorraine, for alimony or something.

Besides, it would be wicked cool if some kind of demon manifested on the jolt server, hungry for a soul, and it makes a nationstate to get me, but then it really likes the forums, and then we have a demon.
Nothing like that would *ever* happen.
<.<
*thinks of Miss Holy See*
>.>
*sobs*

Azazel, more like, eh?

Like from "Fallen" with the Denzel?

Or is that a real (wait, not "real" real, just real to some religion, rather than just in a film, which I guess isn't really more real, really, but you know...really real to the people that religion is real to...oh, really) demon?

It seems you were misleading us earlier, then. :(

Maybe the Robot Devil can give me acting talent.

Well, nothing in life is guaranteed, except for 30 days against manufacturer defect on this melon baller I got for Christmas.

So, lessee...ask, perform spells, pay for magical protection, let a guy bless my lawn that wishes me better, but not the best, and fill my mind with malevolence.

That last one is going to be hard. I really lack the discipline and focus for actual malevolence...can I fill myself with something sinful but less intense? Sloth or something?
Honestly, they did a good job with their advice, given the nature of the particular issue.

Like from "Fallen" with the Denzel?

Or is that a real (wait, not "real" real, just real to some religion, rather than just in a film, which I guess isn't really more real, really, but you know...really real to the people that religion is real to...oh, really) demon?

The internet is your friend. I'm sure there's a few recesses in MY mind that know that ... why don't you?
Judging from your lack of interest in doing research, you're probably well on your way to having the sloth already.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel
http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=100
http://images.ibsys.com/2005/0515/4490722_200X150.jpg

Maybe the Robot Devil can give me acting talent.

*takes bait*
Not until Fry's done using his hands to molest himself with.

See, what if the devil doesn't give a shit whether you suffer or not? I know he/she is supposed to be the Great Enemy of mankind or whatever, but what if he's willing to give you a decent condo and central air conditioning, and in exchange, you have to play backgammon with his weird cousin harold once a week.

Sigworthy. And it's backgammon with Locke and/or Walt.

I need a girl who's drunk but still able to give reasonable consent, fat but still fit enough to be on top, and has no boyfriend but also doesn't want one.
Again, i have to say, the internet is your friend.
And, potentially, NSG.

As far as I can tell, the only proven course of action would be to marry Bill Clinton and then run for President!

Har har hardy har har hee hee pthhhpppbpt.
:rolleyes:

I think I like you. You're funny, and you have good grammar. ;)

A couple of thoughts after reading the thread:

1) I'm thinking the easiest way to get possessed by a demon would be to hang around with you. You strike me as the kind of person who attracts all kinds of trouble, and I mean that as compliment.

2) Any old book can be bound in goat skin. The ones you want are bound in human skin. Look for faded tattoos under the gold-leafed embossing.

3) In my religious belief system (animism), few things are easier than becoming possessed by a demon -- though we prefer to call them evil spirits. They're endemic in the environment, you know.

They can get into you against your will if you do the wrong thing at whatever place they call home. What that wrong thing is, is almost never put up on a warning sign or anything. It could be something obvious which a prudent person should have known might cause trouble, like having sex on a fresh grave, or something totally random, like stepping on the wrong paving stone in a path while wearing shoes or not wearing shoes and whistling the 3rd movement of Beethoven's 7th Symphony on a Wednesday.

You can also make a deal with them to be possessed. Usually, the evil spirit will notice you passing by, be attracted by some maladjustment in your own spirit, and offer to share its power with you if you'll share yours with it, so that you may both obtain your desires (usually for revenge or power or sex). Likewise, if you're the one needing power, you can seek out such a demon and offer such a deal, but you're more likely to be forced into a disadvantageous arrangement then.

Unlike a lot of belief systems, possession in animism is not always a bad thing. If you are spiritually strong enough, you might even purify an evil spirit's powers to make them a good thing in the world. And of course, not only evil spirits possess people. Good spirits and gods do, too, and who wouldn't want that? In some animist religions, people seek to get possessed every week.

You can transform yourself into a spirit (good, bad or indifferent), too, no possession required. All you have to do is just be whatever it is you are completely and intensely enough, and eventually, the transformation will occur (though usually after you die). If your main "sin" (animists have problems with sin concepts) is sloth, this should be easy for you. :) Luckily for you, your name is already rather demonish -- pretty to look at, hard to type, and tricky to figure out how to pronounce. Jhahannam, Demon of Sloth. Don't bother summoning him; he won't show up.

I should actually clarify something. I said getting possessed is easy in animism, and that's true, in a way. Getting possessed is easy. Convincing a spirit to possess you is not always so easy. Remember those half-eaten ramen cookies. Style matters. So does the demon's personal agenda. You just might not fit into his list of things to do that month. Relatively few animists go about possessed because, well, spirits tend to ignore the general population just as much as the general population tends to ignore them. We all have things to do and places to go, after all.

Sexy is as sexy does .... as always :)

There's always the Keys of Solomon, purported to be able to control both angels and demons. Since what I've seen of them is fragmentary and insanely complicated, failure is pretty much guaranteed! And failing when trying to call/bind a demon often results in a pissed off demon, which may like what he/she/it sees on the other side of the circle. Possession! Or, possibly, a pissed off demon wandering around your neighborhood, which may or may not be noticed. I know it wouldn't be noticed on our block, but we live in a crappy neighborhood.

Nice post. :D

I think real demon possession isnt fair to the lesser known demons.
I mean, Pazuzu, Belial, they get all the attention and the fame, and the movie roles.
But guys like "Bob the Demon" you know, the average working stiff demon, who does a fair amount of possessions a month, collects his paycheck, and goes home to his wife and larvae.

Its like "oh, those guys can scare little girls, and levitate beds, and they get movies for it." Bob over here, does three good "Emily Rose" style jobs a week, working overtime, and nobody has ever heard of him.


They oughta unionize.

Honestly, they did a good job with their advice, given the nature of the particular issue.

Heh, I can't really fault anybody for giving me bad advice on getting possessed...if they give me good advice, its what I asked for, if it doesn't work, its in my best interest.

S'like making out with a hot nursing school chick behind the concession stand at a Jimmy Buffet concert. Even if she doesn't let you round third, at least you got Margaritaville and some very recently health code compliant nachos.

I think real demon possession isnt fair to the lesser known demons.
I mean, Pazuzu, Belial, they get all the attention and the fame, and the movie roles.
But guys like "Bob the Demon" you know, the average working stiff demon, who does a fair amount of possessions a month, collects his paycheck, and goes home to his wife and larvae.

Its like "oh, those guys can scare little girls, and levitate beds, and they get movies for it." Bob over here, does three good "Emily Rose" style jobs a week, working overtime, and nobody has ever heard of him.


They oughta unionize.

Heehee...fallen of the abyss, unite! You have nothing to lose but the quickly tiring chore of sticking an umbrella up Hitler's ass while making him watch Zardoz on Telemundo without weed.

i consider myself religeous, or at least spiritual, in a non-christo-islamo-judaic non-western monotheistic sense. what i'm about to say is essentially that, while we live in a universe that our knowledge, even all of collective knowledge of every awairness on this planet, perhapse on any single tangable world, amounts to only the tineyest fraction of what there is to be known, the word and concept demon is entirely a human invention, and cannot reasonably be expected to resemble anything that actually exists.

it is certainly possible to become mentally ill. it may be possible to fall excessively under the influence of some other awairnessess perceptions, usuallly those of another living human, or perhapse those desicribed somewhere in writing.

demonic possession, on the other hand, was an excuse invented for a terror campaign by which midevil christianity appropriated lands and political control of europe throughout much of a millinea that the renasaunce was the final relief from, and death, one can only hope perminently, of.

it was a standing on its head of what had been written and intended as a satyre of has since evolved into catholicism.

certainly under the tremendiously oppressive pressures exerted by that tyranny, many people probably did imagine themselves 'possessed'.

i'm sorry, but none of the invisible spirit people i have met, have ever expressed or domonstrated the slightest intrest in usurping a tangable living earth human's mental proccess.

=^^=
.../\...

Heehee...fallen of the abyss, unite! You have nothing to lose but the quickly tiring chore of sticking an umbrella up Hitler's ass while making him watch Zardoz on Telemundo without weed.

The umbrella up Hitlers ass I was all for. Hell, I'd even be cliche and suggest a pineapple or two, maybe an entire christmas tree...

But no one should ever watch Telemundo without weed.

What kind of MONSTER are you?!

i consider myself religeous, or at least spiritual, in a non-christo-islamo-judaic non-western monotheistic sense. what i'm about to say is essentially that, while we live in a universe that our knowledge, even all of collective knowledge of every awairness on this planet, perhapse on any single tangable world, amounts to only the tineyest fraction of what there is to be known, the word and concept demon is entirely a human invention, and cannot reasonably be expected to resemble anything that actually exists.

it is certainly possible to become mentally ill. it may be possible to fall excessively under the influence of some other awairnessess perceptions, usuallly those of another living human, or perhapse those desicribed somewhere in writing.

demonic possession, on the other hand, was an excuse invented for a terror campaign by which midevil christianity appropriated lands and political control of europe throughout much of a millinea that the renasaunce was the final relief from, and death, one can only hope perminently, of.

it was a standing on its head of what had been written and intended as a satyre of has since evolved into catholicism.

certainly under the tremendiously oppressive pressures exerted by that tyranny, many people probably did imagine themselves 'possessed'.

i'm sorry, but none of the invisible spirit people i have met, have ever expressed or domonstrated the slightest intrest in usurping a tangable living earth human's mental proccess.

=^^=
.../\...

Shit, and here I am with no real property or power for the church seize from me...I guess they could dunk and press me until I gave them my atm code, but that's a hell of a lot of trouble for a slip of paper that says insufficient funds....

Hmmm...unduly under the influece of writing, somebody else's perceptions in some kind of literary format...guess I could join that guy who tried to start an actual Cthulhu Cult...with my luck, Amazon.com would fuck up my order and I'd wind up with my mind subordinated and twisted to a Crichton novel.

The umbrella up Hitlers ass I was all for. Hell, I'd even be cliche and suggest a pineapple or two, maybe an entire christmas tree...

But no one should ever watch Telemundo without weed.

What kind of MONSTER are you?!

Ola....Maria?...MARIA!!! Donda es mi esposaaaaaaaa????!

Ola....Maria?...MARIA!!! Donda es mi esposaaaaaaaa????!

Necessito burrito.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/BumblebeeMan.gif

The internet is your friend. I'm sure there's a few recesses in MY mind that know that ... why don't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel
http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/articleview.asp?Post=100
http://images.ibsys.com/2005/0515/4490722_200X150.jpg

Why look at demons solely from one tradition's point of view?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons

Shit, and here I am with no real property or power for the church seize from me...I guess they could dunk and press me until I gave them my atm code, but that's a hell of a lot of trouble for a slip of paper that says insufficient funds....
Heh, you make them sound like a laundry service. Will they dry and fold you, too?

Hmmm...unduly under the influece of writing, somebody else's perceptions in some kind of literary format...guess I could join that guy who tried to start an actual Cthulhu Cult...with my luck, Amazon.com would fuck up my order and I'd wind up with my mind subordinated and twisted to a Crichton novel.
:D As a lifelong Lovecraft fan, I'll never forget the first day I saw the Necronomicon on the shelf of an occult bookstore -- in mass-market paperback!! -- and immediately saw some goth teen pick it up (wait for it) reverently. Twenty-five years later, I'm still laughing and wishing I'd thought to publish that thing.

Heh, you make them sound like a laundry service. Will they dry and fold you, too?


:D As a lifelong Lovecraft fan, I'll never forget the first day I saw the Necronomicon on the shelf of an occult bookstore -- in mass-market paperback!! -- and immediately saw some goth teen pick it up (wait for it) reverently. Twenty-five years later, I'm still laughing and wishing I'd thought to publish that thing.

That is not unmarketable which cannot fail to sell,
And with youth oriented pseudo-countercultural marketing, even commercialize hell...

-Morty Bernstein, 2-3-3-37 Street Marketing


And as the stars turned upon the pivot of their terrible waltz, Rlyeh rose up, with guest stars Evanescence, Lil Kim, and the new Nyarlathahotep sponsord Nascar team (which, due to being unconstrained by any fathomable geometry, won their debut race without starting the car)....

Oh man...I hope the Lovecraft Mythos isn't the bullseye...the slimy, maddening, uncaring chaos would probably just feed me to a pit of gestational fungi rather than possess me...

That is not unmarketable which cannot fail to sell,
And with youth oriented pseudo-countercultural marketing, even commercialize hell...

-Morty Bernstein, 2-3-3-37 Street Marketing


And as the stars turned upon the pivot of their terrible waltz, Rlyeh rose up, with guest stars Evanescence, Lil Kim, and the new Nyarlathahotep sponsord Nascar team (which, due to being unconstrained by any fathomable geometry, won their debut race without starting the car)....

Oh man...I hope the Lovecraft Mythos isn't the bullseye...the slimy, maddening, uncaring chaos would probably just feed me to a pit of gestational fungi rather than possess me...

:D:D:D Gasp...stop it... ya killin' me... I'm dyin'...

And of course, all those unnameable types have no need to possess you. They have plenty of tentacles to masturbate with and can always send their Edgar Allen Poe clones out to get Cheeto's.

:D:D:D Gasp...stop it... ya killin' me... I'm dyin'...

And of course, all those unnameable types have no need to possess you. They have plenty of tentacles to masturbate with and can always send their Edgar Allen Poe clones out to get Cheeto's.

See, now I have this image of Cthulhu giving head to himself, and I just lost all my sanity points. Thanks. Thanks a lot, man.

See, now I have this image of Cthulhu giving head to himself, and I just lost all my sanity points. Thanks. Thanks a lot, man.

Any time. :)

Any time. :)

You know, so far, to me the most compelling part of the thread is the stuff on animism. I sort of followed up on it (within the hardly expansive boundaries of my research energies), and wound up touching on all kinds of varied but interesting (in an academic sense) ideas like ancestor possession (animism led to Shinto which led to ancestor reverence which led to yadda yadda).

Now, though, my part of Straughn's brain is trying to necrotize its own tissue to avoid experiencing the image of a Great Old One pulling a Ron Jeremy and trying to tongue polish its own knob.

Oh man...it just occurred to me that one of the Mythos, think it was Ygolnac, has mouths on its hands...oh jesus, I can't finish this Hot Pocket now.

:D:D:D Gasp...stop it... ya killin' me... I'm dyin'...

And of course, all those unnameable types have no need to possess you. They have plenty of tentacles to masturbate with and can always send their Edgar Allen Poe clones out to get Cheeto's.

No... Sanity... Left! Well, I lasted longer than most CoC characters...

Nice post. :D

Thanks!

You know, so far, to me the most compelling part of the thread is the stuff on animism. I sort of followed up on it (within the hardly expansive boundaries of my research energies), and wound up touching on all kinds of varied but interesting (in an academic sense) ideas like ancestor possession (animism led to Shinto which led to ancestor reverence which led to yadda yadda).

Now, though, my part of Straughn's brain is trying to necrotize its own tissue to avoid experiencing the image of a Great Old One pulling a Ron Jeremy and trying to tongue polish its own knob.

Oh man...it just occurred to me that one of the Mythos, think it was Ygolnac, has mouths on its hands...oh jesus, I can't finish this Hot Pocket now.
Muravyets, Demon of Derailment, called Killer of Conversations and The Grand Subvert, intones: "My work here is done." *goes back to drinking coffee and watching "Law & Order" reruns* ;)

It's called LSD.

I think real demon possession isnt fair to the lesser known demons.
I mean, Pazuzu
Ungrateful gargoyle! I put that fucker through college!

S'like making out with a hot nursing school chick behind the concession stand at a Jimmy Buffet concert. Even if she doesn't let you round third, at least you got Margaritaville and some very recently health code compliant nachos.True, that. *nods*

Muravyets, Demon of Derailment, called Killer of Conversations and The Grand Subvert, intones: "My work here is done." *goes back to drinking coffee and watching "Law & Order" reruns* ;)

In the criminal justice system, there are two separate yet equally important groups. The police, who investigate crime, and Azathoth, who dances idiotically to the flute playing at the center of the universe. This is their story.

[Open to an alley where Jerry Orbach makes a pithy comment over a corpse before sipping coffee, then cut to a blind nuclear chaos that causes the camera man to kill himself]

Why look at demons solely from one tradition's point of view?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons
Wasn't my intent, and certainly not my own personal belief.
Just seemed what the OP'r was aiming at.

See, now I have this image of Cthulhu giving head to himself, and I just lost all my sanity points. Thanks. Thanks a lot, man.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/Thread.jpg

Wasn't my intent, and certainly not my own personal belief.
Just seemed what the OP'r was aiming at.

Any link is cool, and I didn't take anybody's post as constraining. Heck, I spent half an hour checking out the Dodge Demon (basically a Dodge Dart).

But, as an academic quesiton, if somebody wanted to become possessed by a demon, is that possible in your religion, and if so, how does one go about it in your belief system?

Worship one of the four Ruinous Powers. I suggest Tzeentch or Khorne and a pilgrimage to the northern wastes. That should get the attention of a daemon.

Then again you could always watch a film with Matt Damon but that would be going too far.

EDIT: Yes, I did post this without reading any other posts, though some previous ones make this seem logical.

How can I get demon possessed?
From what I can tell, it's pure luck.

...like stepping on the wrong paving stone in a path while wearing shoes or not wearing shoes and whistling the 3rd movement of Beethoven's 7th Symphony on a Wednesday.

Just tried that.... nothin'.
You sure it wasn't Tuesday?

From what I can tell, it's pure luck.



Just tried that.... nothin'.
You sure it wasn't Tuesday?

Hell, it could have been Thursday, for all I know.

I'll cut a deal with the tribal leaders...offer to work security at the Casino as what they call a "cooler", an unlucky dude who walks by winning players and saps them of their fortune and fortuity.

Speaking as a casino employee, you need to be somewhere between the ages of 75 and 92 to work in security. But, I guess if you found a demon that was old enough, your ages would average out.
p.s. just an added thought, if you were old enough that you needed a cane you wouldn't actually have to touch anyone. I suggest that just because some of those people don't bathe very often.

Demons? If you want to really kick ass, become the avatar of a reborn God.

Then again you could always watch a film with Matt Damon but that would be going too far.



I don't think Matt Damon is going far enough. Maybe a marathon of Paris Hilton in "The Simple Life" would be more effective.

Check out the Lesser Key of Solomon. Weird book, but exactly what you're looking for.

For me, Demons and Devils are 2 different things. Signing a deal with a devil is just signing away your soul. A demon uses a body for its own use whether it be a just use or a chaotic one (demons are not all evil, devils are however). being possessed by a demon voluntarily would be near impossible since possessions are normally random and the demon would enter the nearest body possible. to summon a demon is the only way to get nearest one but there is a chance from non-communication the demon would reward you by sparing your human embodiment and searching for another.

Blood rituals.

Heck, I spent half an hour checking out the Dodge Demon (basically a Dodge Dart)....and? Any clothes in the back? Perhaps someone's shroud?

Demons? If you want to really kick ass, become the avatar of a reborn God.

The best avatars are those that were born with the power, such as the Bhaalspawn.

For me, Demons and Devils are 2 different things.

Of course they are different. A Demon comes from The Abyss and devils come from Baator. Everyone knows that :rolleyes: .

I don't think Matt Damon is going far enough. Maybe a marathon of Paris Hilton in "The Simple Life" would be more effective.

That's what you use to torture a demon out of a person, though it ends up with the (formerly) possessed person having no to very little intelligence.

A far more humane (to both Demon and Possessed) is to force them to watch Lost. It confuses the Demon out of the body!

A far more humane (to both Demon and Possessed) is to force them to watch Lost. It confuses the Demon out of the body!:eek:
We're bastards!

That's what you use to torture a demon out of a person, though it ends up with the (formerly) possessed person having no to very little intelligence.

A far more humane (to both Demon and Possessed) is to force them to watch Lost. It confuses the Demon out of the body!

Very very true.

So, I suppose most of you are either skeptical of my sincerity or you are categorically against deliberately inviting a demon to subsume me and take total control of my mind body and soul.
Definitely of the latter kind. I've seen what the possessed can do and what a daemon does to them. Not a nice sight!
But, as an academic quesiton, if somebody wanted to become possessed by a demon, is that possible in your religion, and if so, how does one go about it in your belief system?
=I= Burn the heretic, kill the mutant, purge the unclean.
If your religion makes you uncomfortable discussing the mechanics of demon possession, feel free to opine on what demons are in your religion (literal vs. symbolic, fallen angel, other). I'd be interested in hearing from just about any devout followers, Christian, Muslim, whatever. By way of exception, no Scientologists, por favor.
The kind that devours your soul and your fate lies not in the hands of the Emperor any longer.
For the unreligious folks, yes, this is absurd, but hardly moreso than many long and hearty threads on this board.
The Emperor protects.

Definitely of the latter kind. I've seen what the possessed can do and what a daemon does to them. Not a nice sight!

=I= Burn the heretic, kill the mutant, purge the unclean.

The kind that devours your soul and your fate lies not in the hands of the Emperor any longer.

The Emperor protects.

-Faith is the sturdiest armour. Hatred the surest weapon.
-Innocence proves nothing.
-Purge the unclean.
-Tolerance is a sign of weakness.
-War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength.

-Faith is the sturdiest armour. Hatred the surest weapon.
-Innocence proves nothing.
-Purge the unclean.
-Tolerance is a sign of weakness.
-War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength.

Slogans are for people not smart enough to think in full sentences.

Slogans are for people not smart enough to think in full sentences.

It is not our duty to think for the Emperor, it is our duty to serve Him. :p

*The OP*
Make a paper doll of what you think is the Devil. Fill it with bleach. Eat.

Slogans are for people not smart enough to think in full sentences.

Again with the winning lines.
:D

It is not our duty to think for the Emperor, it is our duty to serve Him. :p
...his walkin' papers. :)

Make a paper doll of what you think is the Devil. Fill it with bleach. Eat.

Sigoworthy, like Intestinal Fluids' post. :)

...his walkin' papers. :)

He is discharging something, not discharged.

The Emperor is getting old you know, he can't move out of his golden throne (retirement home time)... He needs many people to 'serve' him ;).

Definitely of the latter kind. I've seen what the possessed can do and what a daemon does to them. Not a nice sight!

Youre a liar.
Ive seen an excorcism too, and it was very much an act.
It was clearly bullshit.

Youre a liar.
Ive seen an excorcism too, and it was very much an act.
It was clearly bullshit.

I've seen one that clearly wasn't an act. So what?

I'm not going to assume that all exorcisms are genuine just because I saw one that was, or even after seeing several that were genuine.

He is discharging something, not discharged.


Like Benders' burning electrical discharge?