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Is it gay to.....

Soviestan
30-12-2007, 07:22
recieve oral sex from someone of the same sex? I'm curious to see what the NSG masses say.
Neo Art
30-12-2007, 07:25
recieve oral sex from someone of the same sex? I'm curious to see what the NSG masses say.

Homosexuality is about desire, not act. It's not "gay" to have sex with someone of the same gender. It is "gay" to want to.
Lunatic Goofballs
30-12-2007, 07:25
recieve oral sex from someone of the same sex? I'm curious to see what the NSG masses say.

Only if you're awake and you like it. *nod*
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 07:26
recieve oral sex from someone of the same sex? I'm curious to see what the NSG masses say.

Who did you recieve the oral from?



Anyway, I do not bind myself to the gay/straight/bi stuff. It is all simple physical pleasure. Why the fuck should it matter if it is with the same sex or not?

EDIT! Shit, I selected the wrong option. DAMN!
Neesika
30-12-2007, 07:29
One has to wonder why you're asking in the first place...
Agerias
30-12-2007, 07:30
Yes, it's gay.

Not to imply it's bad or anything, but it is gay.
Marrakech II
30-12-2007, 07:31
One has to wonder why you're asking in the first place...

I wonder too. I do think it is gay to get oral from the same sex. But whatever floats your boat.
Neo Art
30-12-2007, 07:33
Yes, it's gay.

Not to imply it's bad or anything, but it is gay.

so lemme understand this. A guy who is, let's say...drugged and raped by another man is gay?
Cannot think of a name
30-12-2007, 07:35
It is a homosexual act, so in that way it's gay. But I think a more important question is why are you bargaining with the definition of gay?
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 07:37
I think someone needs to perform oral sex on me in order to test this out.
Agerias
30-12-2007, 07:40
so lemme understand this. A guy who is, let's say...drugged and raped by another man is gay?
No. Being gay is part biological predisposition and part choice. By that definition, rape is not consensual, and therefore does not imply any predisposition or choice as to make the victim gay. It's still gay sex, though.
Ordo Drakul
30-12-2007, 07:40
All I can say is that owning the equipment lets you better know how to use it for fun. Guys give better oral pleasure than the ladies-and I'm sure women feel the exact opposite, for the exact same reason.
Neo Art
30-12-2007, 07:44
No. Being gay is part biological predisposition and part choice. By that definition, rape is not consensual, and therefore does not imply any predisposition or choice as to make the victim gay. It's still gay sex, though.

That's true. But that's not what he asked. He didn't ask if it were "gay sex". He asked if it were "gay". By which, the only sensical meaning is "is it being gay", the answer, of course, is no, having homosexual sex does not make one a homosexual.

Likewise one can be a homosexual without ever having homosexual sex.
IL Ruffino
30-12-2007, 07:47
I think someone needs to perform oral sex on me in order to test this out.

Of the male gender, of course.
Kohara
30-12-2007, 07:47
No, it's not gay, if you had to label it, it'd be Pansexual.

That said, I like the earlier answer about pleasure being pleasure, and an act being gay if you want it from the same gender.
Agerias
30-12-2007, 07:47
He's asking about sex (albeit oral) between two consenting men (or women) being gay or not.

You're over rationalizing.
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 07:52
Of the male gender, of course.

Well, it all depends on what gender I feel like being at the time.
Neo Art
30-12-2007, 07:53
He's asking about sex (albeit oral) between two consenting men (or women) being gay or not.

Really? So please point out where he said anything about it being consentual. Or, for that matter, let's say I have no sexual attraction to men what so ever, but I accept an offer to allow a man to perform oral sex on me in exchange for one million dollars, is that gay?

The question was insufficient. Being homosexual is about desire, not action. He merely asked if oral sex between men was gay. He said nothing about consent, he said nothing about sexual desire. He just asked if the act was indicative of being gay. It is not.
IL Ruffino
30-12-2007, 07:53
Well, it all depends on what gender I feel like being at the time.

Kinky..
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 07:53
Kinky..

I'd be a guy for you, Ruffykins. ;)
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 07:55
I'd be a guy for you, Ruffykins. ;)

Wait, I confus'ed, do you have a penis or a vagina?
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 07:57
Wait, I confus'ed, do you have a penis or a vagina?

Which do you want me to have?
IL Ruffino
30-12-2007, 07:59
I'd be a guy for you, Ruffykins. ;)

*purrs*
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 08:00
Which do you want me to have?

Wha... How....

Shit. It doesn't bother me in the least, I am a bisexual so I like both.

EDIT: I know that contradicts what I said in an earlier post, but if I had to put a label on myself. Bisexual fits best.
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 08:02
*purrs*

Ooo, lets take this to a chatroom...
Wha... How....

Shit. It doesn't bother me in the least, I am a bisexual so I like both.

In that case, I'll totally go with having both. Sound good to you?
The Alma Mater
30-12-2007, 08:03
Depends.
What do you consider the most important part - the blowjob or that it is a man giving it ?
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 08:04
Ooo, lets take this to a chatroom...


In that case, I'll totally go with having both. Sound good to you?

Of course. *tries in vain to push 'it' down.*
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 08:05
Of course. *tries in vain to push 'it' down.*

You should let it rise to it's potential! :D
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 08:08
You should let it rise to it's potential! :D

lol. You're right. *lets go*
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 08:09
lol. You're right. *lets go*

Only if Ruffy says it's okay!

Oh, and there's a cover charge for first time customers. :/
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 08:11
Only if Ruffy says it's okay!

Oh, and there's a cover charge for first time customers. :/

Ruffy, please. *puppy eyes*


Charges, but I have no money, :( . I don't get paid 'till tuesday.
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 08:13
Ruffy, please. *puppy eyes*


Charges, but I have no money, :( . I don't get paid 'till tuesday.

Argh. :( You need to take it up with my pimps. I don't handle the transactions.

But you seem nice, so I'll let you have a free sample. :)
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 08:15
Argh. :( You need to take it up with my pimps. I don't handle the transactions.

But you seem nice, so I'll let you have a free sample. :)

:D Yay! What does this free sample entail?
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 08:16
:D Yay! What does this free sample entail?

A taste, of course. :)
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 08:18
A taste, of course. :)

Thats great.:) I live in Tennessee, you anywhere close?
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 08:19
Thats great. I live in Tennessee, you anywhere close?

I live in the minds of perverts everywhere.
IL Ruffino
30-12-2007, 08:20
*gives blessing*
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 08:21
I live in the minds of perverts everywhere.

Really. *searches and finds Kiryu-shi in the dark abyss a blasphemous mind*

I'm happy now.
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 08:29
Really. *searches and finds Kiryu-shi in the dark abyss a blasphemous mind*

I'm happy now.

Thats what I live for. :D
Soheran
30-12-2007, 08:30
(But? But? :))

It's "gay" if you desire to receive oral sex from a man, and enjoy it when it's done... and without imagining a woman in his place.

Assuming that "gay" simply refers to same-sex attraction, and not exclusive same-sex attraction, anyway.
Blasphemous Priest
30-12-2007, 08:34
Thats what I live for. :D

Thanks.
Uturn
30-12-2007, 10:23
I'd say it would fall under gay sex, but would it make you gay? Only if you were attracted to the other guy.
Sexual acts and sexual orientation are not one and the same.
Wilgrove
30-12-2007, 10:35
Oh Yea, it's totally gay. I mean Neo Art talks about Desire and the act itself, but unless you were knocked out cold, why would you even want oral sex from a guy if you didn't desire it in some way?

So yea, it's not only gay, it's Fabulous!

Some parts of this post may have been in jester. ;)
FreedomEverlasting
30-12-2007, 10:38
recieve oral sex from someone of the same sex? I'm curious to see what the NSG masses say.

"Is IT gay to"

What's IT? The act? Yea it's gay sex. Rather or not the person in particular is gay? Sure we can make up 50 thousand hypothetical reasons as to rather the person is or isn't gay. But what I will tell you is that, if you are not gay? You probably won't want to, or think about, receiving oral sex from someone of the same sex.
Ancient and Holy Terra
30-12-2007, 10:59
In a way, I feel that the act itself is homosexual, although I'm also an idiot so don't listen to me. Whether or not it causes one to take on the status of being gay, however, is more ambiguous.

I don't know; what would the prosecutors and victims of Prison Rape think about this question? :)
Joltoria
30-12-2007, 11:06
I dont think so. Cause' think about it really simply, all thats happening is your dick is being sucked. Now if you were giving head, thats a different story
Dakini
30-12-2007, 11:15
I don't think that actions can be gay. People can, not actions. Besides, if one enjoys it just as much with a member of the opposite sex, wouldn't that make it "bi"?
Dakini
30-12-2007, 11:19
All I can say is that owning the equipment lets you better know how to use it for fun. Guys give better oral pleasure than the ladies-and I'm sure women feel the exact opposite, for the exact same reason.
I'm not sure if this is always the case. While someone might know what they like having done to them, that doesn't mean that everyone will like the same thing or that they will know how to do whatever it is that they like having done.

I think that generally, if one wants good oral sex, all one needs is a partner who is enthusiastic and willing to take instruction (although there may be some physical limiting factors like mouth size).
United Beleriand
30-12-2007, 13:34
I'd say it would fall under gay sex, but would it make you gay? Only if you were attracted to the other guy.Aren't you attracted to those who blow you??

Sexual acts and sexual orientation are not one and the same.The sexual acts make up your orientation.
Jello Biafra
30-12-2007, 13:37
(It's "gay" if you desire to receive oral sex from a man, and enjoy it when it's done... and without imagining a woman in his place. Ding, ding! We have a winner.
Nova Castlemilk
30-12-2007, 13:39
Homosexuality is about desire, not act. It's not "gay" to have sex with someone of the same gender. It is "gay" to want to.

We do not act, unless we desire to, so yes it is Gay "Big Deal"
United Beleriand
30-12-2007, 13:42
We do not act, unless we desire to, so yes it is Gay "Big Deal"Could also be bi, depending on which other desires one has.
Nova Castlemilk
30-12-2007, 13:46
That's true. But that's not what he asked. He didn't ask if it were "gay sex". He asked if it were "gay". By which, the only sensical meaning is "is it being gay", the answer, of course, is no, having homosexual sex does not make one a homosexual.

Likewise one can be a homosexual without ever having homosexual sex.

Actually he said "received" which is not in the same league as "forced" or "drugged" etc.

If you voluntary engage in an activity, it's because you want to, therefore Gay interest must come into it.
Farmina
30-12-2007, 13:47
Depends on when you realised she was a he.
Ashmoria
30-12-2007, 15:40
yes its gay.

even if your DEAD (which should make for a terrible sexual experience) its gay.

so what? does it mean YOURE gay?

no.

might you be gay?

sure. but then you might be gay even if youve never had gay sex in your life.
ColaDrinkers
30-12-2007, 15:46
Balls aren't touching, so it's not gay.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
30-12-2007, 15:53
recieve oral sex from someone of the same sex? I'm curious to see what the NSG masses say.

I dont think so. Cause' think about it really simply, all thats happening is your dick is being sucked. Now if you were giving head, thats a different story

Ugh. I fucking hate the mindset behind questions (and answers!) like these. It's one thing if you thought of yourself as hetero all your life and then find yourself attracted to someone of the same gender (or the other way around) - obviously that would probably entail some soul searching and self questioning.
But what you want is just an excuse to go "Hehe, he totally sucked my cock, it was awesome, but shhh, don't tell anyone, because hell no I'm not gay and if you call me gay I'll fucking kick your ass because gays make me want to puke." :rolleyes:
Johnny B Goode
30-12-2007, 15:56
Only if you're awake and you like it. *nod*

Goofballs is right.
Extreme Ironing
30-12-2007, 16:13
recieve oral sex from someone of the same sex? I'm curious to see what the NSG masses say.

Did you like it?
Cabra West
30-12-2007, 16:16
recieve oral sex from someone of the same sex? I'm curious to see what the NSG masses say.

I always thought "gay" was about who you're attracted to, not who you have sex with and in what way.

Did I miss something?
G3N13
30-12-2007, 16:17
It's not gay if it's lesbian :fluffle:
Soheran
30-12-2007, 16:26
but unless you were knocked out cold, why would you even want oral sex from a guy if you didn't desire it in some way?

Some straight people like experimenting.
Smunkeeville
30-12-2007, 16:28
I think someone needs to perform oral sex on me in order to test this out.

has to be a boy though right?;)
Andaluciae
30-12-2007, 16:29
I believe the greater question is:

If you can fellate yourself, and you do so, is it gay?
Soheran
30-12-2007, 16:31
If you voluntary engage in an activity, it's because you want to, therefore Gay interest must come into it.

Lots of gay people have voluntarily engaged in straight sex... does that make them any less gay?

"Want" is not the same as "sexually desire."
Soheran
30-12-2007, 16:31
If you can fellate yourself, and you do so, is it gay?

No. And masturbation as such isn't gay either.
Ad Nihilo
30-12-2007, 16:33
I'd say that the act in itself is gay, but that does not make one (either the giver, or the receiver) gay. Not even bi. It simply makes one adventurous ;)
Andaluciae
30-12-2007, 16:34
No. And masturbation isn't gay either.

How about conjoined twins?
United Beleriand
30-12-2007, 16:39
got a video?
Khadgar
30-12-2007, 17:08
I'll give you the same line thousands of gay men have used since time immemorial. It won't make you gay, just lay back and enjoy it.
Kiryu-shi
30-12-2007, 17:35
has to be a boy though right?;)

I'd be a girl for you, Smunkee. >.>
Milidan
30-12-2007, 17:42
Homosexual activity is a conception cast upon actions. If someone gets action from a lady, but imagines its a guy, it can be considered gay. If someone gets such action from a guy, but pretends its a girl, one could argue that they are straight. And it follows, that someone could also totally ignore gender, and totally not care about masculinity and femininity, and so, not have it matter any any way what gender the partner is. From this, it follows that it does not matter what gender the partner is, but it is what gender roles each partner considers themselves assigned, if any, that determines whether an act affects their person as a straight, gay, bi, or none of the above type act. (Should you choose to categorize it that way.) And so, I believe the question, is it gay or not, is a matter of how the judge conceptualizes the act; whoever the judge maybe.
Dyakovo
30-12-2007, 18:37
recieve oral sex from someone of the same sex? I'm curious to see what the NSG masses say.
Only if you enjoy it ;)
United Beleriand
30-12-2007, 18:38
Only if you enjoy it ;)Ever got a bad blowjob??
Isidoor
30-12-2007, 18:41
I believe the greater question is:

If you can fellate yourself, and you do so, is it gay?

I wish I could perform auto-fellatio. I asked it for christmas but Santa brought me a new sweater instead :(.
Dyakovo
30-12-2007, 18:42
Ever got a bad blowjob??

No
Greater Trostia
30-12-2007, 18:43
Yes, it's a homosexual act. Just like receiving oral sex from a member of the opposite sex is a heterosexual act. I think it's incredibly limiting and narrow-minded to strictly define sexuality in terms of one's innermost true desire (tm), and I also think no one actually does this in practice.

Particularly because people's Innermost True Desires (tm) are not readily apparent, often even to themselves.
Ashmoria
30-12-2007, 19:12
Yes, it's a homosexual act. Just like receiving oral sex from a member of the opposite sex is a heterosexual act. I think it's incredibly limiting and narrow-minded to strictly define sexuality in terms of one's innermost true desire (tm), and I also think no one actually does this in practice.

Particularly because people's Innermost True Desires (tm) are not readily apparent, often even to themselves.

its a problem of the fear of BEING GAY.

a man might want all the blow jobs that he can possibly get but that implies the willingness to get them from men too.

but WHAT IF THAT MAKES HIM GAY?

hence the odd question of, in essense, "is participating in gay sex gay?"

of course it is and if you want to participate in any form of gay sex you should accept that it is and that there is nothing wrong with it.

if a person has had gay sex, wants to have gay sex, or thinks about gay sex a lot, maybe he should start exploring his sexuality a bit more. he might end up having some really great sex as a result of loosening up some.
Dyakovo
30-12-2007, 19:15
if a person has had gay sex, wants to have gay sex, or thinks about gay sex a lot, maybe he should start exploring his sexuality a bit more. he might end up having some really great sex as a result of loosening up some.

Now, if only more people thought like this :D
Ad Nihilo
30-12-2007, 19:22
its a problem of the fear of BEING GAY.

a man might want all the blow jobs that he can possibly get but that implies the willingness to get them from men too.

but WHAT IF THAT MAKES HIM GAY?

hence the odd question of, in essense, "is participating in gay sex gay?"

of course it is and if you want to participate in any form of gay sex you should accept that it is and that there is nothing wrong with it.

if a person has had gay sex, wants to have gay sex, or thinks about gay sex a lot, maybe he should start exploring his sexuality a bit more. he might end up having some really great sex as a result of loosening up some.

As I see it, my problem with receiving in such circumstances is that men don't (usually) arouse me at all, and I could say that visual stimulation is almost (if not as) important for me as tactile stimulation.

It's more a matter of "this just doesn't appeal to me" rather than "is this gay?". I'd love to be able to brag I was bi, but I can't, for I am not.
Ashmoria
30-12-2007, 19:51
As I see it, my problem with receiving in such circumstances is that men don't (usually) arouse me at all, and I could say that visual stimulation is almost (if not as) important for me as tactile stimulation.

It's more a matter of "this just doesn't appeal to me" rather than "is this gay?". I'd love to be able to brag I was bi, but I can't, for I am not.

are you saying that you get blowjobs from men but dont enjoy it?
Soviestan
30-12-2007, 19:58
"Is IT gay to"

What's IT? The act? Yea it's gay sex. Rather or not the person in particular is gay? Sure we can make up 50 thousand hypothetical reasons as to rather the person is or isn't gay. But what I will tell you is that, if you are not gay? You probably won't want to, or think about, receiving oral sex from someone of the same sex.

I don't buy that. I think there are plenty of straight people that have thought about it, and maybe at some level wanted it. But even that I don't think, makes someone gay
United Beleriand
30-12-2007, 19:59
are you saying that you get blowjobs from men but dont enjoy it?which would lead to the question why he would get them in the first place... :rolleyes:
Soviestan
30-12-2007, 20:05
One has to wonder why you're asking in the first place...

because someone had said something in the gay marriage thread that made me think of this topic.
Ad Nihilo
30-12-2007, 20:57
are you saying that you get blowjobs from men but dont enjoy it?

I haven't as of yet but I doubt I'd be aroused. Unless of course it'd be one of those 1 in 3 or so billion men I actually find good looking and appealing
Greater Trostia
30-12-2007, 21:35
its a problem of the fear of BEING GAY.

a man might want all the blow jobs that he can possibly get but that implies the willingness to get them from men too.

but WHAT IF THAT MAKES HIM GAY?

hence the odd question of, in essense, "is participating in gay sex gay?"

of course it is and if you want to participate in any form of gay sex you should accept that it is and that there is nothing wrong with it.

if a person has had gay sex, wants to have gay sex, or thinks about gay sex a lot, maybe he should start exploring his sexuality a bit more. he might end up having some really great sex as a result of loosening up some.

Also, even straight men can benefit from some lube and prostate stimulation.
Ashmoria
30-12-2007, 22:08
I haven't as of yet but I doubt I'd be aroused. Unless of course it'd be one of those 1 in 3 or so billion men I actually find good looking and appealing

then im not sure what youre on about.

if you dont want a blowjob so badly that youll get one from a man; if you dont find the idea of sex with a man attractive; if you have never had sex with a man; you probably arent gay.

not having or wanting sex with men is a hallmark of not being gay.
Ashmoria
30-12-2007, 22:10
Also, even straight men can benefit from some lube and prostate stimulation.

and for some its only the fear of BEING GAY (yes the caps are important) that keeps them from enjoying that kind of thing with their female partners.
Ashmoria
30-12-2007, 22:12
I don't buy that. I think there are plenty of straight people that have thought about it, and maybe at some level wanted it. But even that I don't think, makes someone gay

since a person fantasizes about all sorts of nasty things that they would never do in real life the test is the HAVING of gay sex. until you try it, you cant be sure that you would (or would not) enjoy it.
Greater Trostia
30-12-2007, 22:14
and for some its only the fear of BEING GAY (yes the caps are important) that keeps them from enjoying that kind of thing with their female partners.

True. For others though, it's a general dislike of the idea of things penetrating the anus. I know it's that way for me. The sensations are far too similar to those of pooping.
Ad Nihilo
30-12-2007, 22:49
and for some its only the fear of BEING GAY (yes the caps are important) that keeps them from enjoying that kind of thing with their female partners.

I'd actually like being fingered by a woman. Or even be done with a strap-on. One could say that in my case it would be "fear of being gay" but that's not the case. I simply find women attractive while men, mostly, repulsive.
Ki Baratan
31-12-2007, 07:55
no sex act makes you become that sexuality. Straight sex doesn't make you straight necessarily, so why would gay sex? However, it make open your eyes to what you really want, in that case...well, good to have another one join us.
Jocabia
31-12-2007, 10:03
What if you're rather blow 88 sweaty men than touch the dirty, somehow magicaly hairy vagina of a woman? Would that be gay?

(Incidentally, it was the statement that Sovietstan would rather blow an entire football team than touch a woman's vagina, he actually meant vulva but he's not familiar with female anatomy, that inspired this thread.)
Cameroi
31-12-2007, 10:12
any sexual gratification between persons of the same gender is 'gay', but who the hell cares? if you wan't to be gay, you're welcome to it. at least you're not contributing to overpopulation.

if you don't, and i don't, that's fine too, but it doesn't make what anybody else does or doesn't any more your bussiness then if they were hetro.

i'm sorry but i just don't get the whole horsepuckkie about poking each others noses into how anyone else harmlessly persues gratifiction, sexually or otherwise.

there's too much that isn't harmless that just gets ignored, condoned or even praised for it to make any kind of sense to make such a big dial out of anything that is.

=^^=
.../\...
Sestros
31-12-2007, 10:26
Short Answer: No.
Long Answer: No, unless they wants to receive/give oral sex from/to someone of the same gender, but not out of curiosity. If it is solely out of curiosity, it does not necessarily means that the 2 are gay, but if it's out of sexual desire, then yes it would be gay, but no matter how one puts it, your context would feature gay sex, though not necessarily gay people with gay desires having gay sex.