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What's your opinon of Yahtzze?

Conserative Morality
27-12-2007, 04:44
If you've never heard of him , shame on you!
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2716-Zero-Punctuation-Guitar-Hero-III
What do you think of him?
Imperio Mexicano
27-12-2007, 04:48
Shame on me.

(Never heard of him.)

When I first saw the title, I thought you misspelled Yahtzee, the dice game. :p
Vandal-Unknown
27-12-2007, 04:52
Funny.

Well,... most reviewers these days writes from a comedic angle,... so,.. meh.
Conserative Morality
27-12-2007, 04:53
Funny.

Well,... most reviewers these days writes from a comedic angle,... so,.. meh.
*GASP!* How DARE you! Meh!?! Yahtzee(With all seriousness) is the only game reviewer that has made me laugh since March!(GI's game infarcer) Plus he's truthful, not following the crowd(as with his Halo 3 review)
Vandal-Unknown
27-12-2007, 05:38
*GASP!* How DARE you! Meh!?! Yahtzee(With all seriousness) is the only game reviewer that has made me laugh since March!(GI's game infarcer) Plus he's truthful, not following the crowd(as with his Halo 3 review)

Owh, come on, can't I say "meh"?

Actually that's my default position for game reviewers these days. I guess I have gone numb.
Wilgrove
27-12-2007, 05:43
I thought we were talking about Yathzee. :(

http://www.boardgamesexpress.com/images/yahtzee.jpg
Daistallia 2104
27-12-2007, 06:43
Shame on me.

(Never heard of him.)

When I first saw the title, I thought you misspelled Yahtzee, the dice game. :p

Heh. Me as well.

Great minds like a think.
Lame Bums
27-12-2007, 07:21
If you've never heard of him , shame on you!
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2716-Zero-Punctuation-Guitar-Hero-III
What do you think of him?

Am I the only person in the world who loves the old Guitar Hero games but absolutely hates Guitar Hero 3 and firmly believes that Neversoft not only killed, but burned, butchered, mutilated and then cremated the Guitar Hero name, and then pissed on the grave just for the hell of it?
Jeruselem
27-12-2007, 07:30
Maybe naming someone after a board game was bad idea :D
Dryks Legacy
27-12-2007, 07:31
Maybe naming someone after a board game was bad idea :D

Says the guy named after a city :rolleyes:
Jeruselem
27-12-2007, 07:37
Says the guy named after a city :rolleyes:

As misspelling of a city that is.

Anyway, game reviews are just that - the opinion of the reviewer. What someone may hate in a game, someone else loves.
Chumblywumbly
27-12-2007, 13:36
Looks like Mr. Yahtzzee is quite a fan of one Charlie Brooker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brooker).
Egg and chips
27-12-2007, 13:36
He's funny, but he enjoys focussing on the negative a little to much. (I suppose being cutting makes it easier to be funny). His portal review was spot on though.
Skyguy
27-12-2007, 13:52
Shame on me.

(Never heard of him.)

When I first saw the title, I thought you misspelled Yahtzee, the dice game. :p

stuff
Svalbardania
27-12-2007, 14:30
My opinion of Yahtzee? A long straight is just as difficult to get, but gets less points! Yahtzee is a showpony who steals the limelight.
Yootopia
27-12-2007, 15:53
Quite funny, and his games are quite good, although the button-mashing bit of the last one was something of a pain in the arse.
Nouvelle Wallonochie
27-12-2007, 16:14
I'd never heard of him before. He's funny, but since I don't play consoles I've never played most of the games he's reviewing and thus don't get some of the jokes. However, as was stated, his review of Portal was exactly right.
Chumblywumbly
27-12-2007, 16:44
Quite funny, and his games are quite good, although the button-mashing bit of the last one was something of a pain in the arse.
Must say, it's refreshing to see a game critic, and such a vitriolic one at that, create some games himself.

Although his style isn't totally original (as I said before, he's very reminiscent of Charlie Brooker) his reviews seem to be quite accurate, especially his takes on Halo 3, Portal, HL2E2, Peggle and J-RPGs in general.
Mad hatters in jeans
27-12-2007, 22:14
He is pretty funny i'll give him that, and he's good at finding the flaws of a game, but the ones he's given to review are generally already bad in some way what i'd like to see is him saying that a game is good(Or maybe there isn't such a thing).

So funny, witty, but cynical, negative(and a little obessed).
okay
Rubiconic Crossings
27-12-2007, 22:30
thats a dicey one....!
ColaDrinkers
27-12-2007, 22:44
Must say, it's refreshing to see a game critic, and such a vitriolic one at that, create some games himself.

Although his style isn't totally original (as I said before, he's very reminiscent of Charlie Brooker) his reviews seem to be quite accurate, especially his takes on Halo 3, Portal, HL2E2, Peggle and J-RPGs in general.

I think he's funny too, but the only purpose his reviews serve is to be funny. That's it. He himself makes no secret about focusing on the negative, heavily exaggerate and sometimes skipping much of a game. Just take a look at his review of the demo (and he didn't even finish the demo) for The Darkness for probably the worst example of him unfairly dismissing a game.

There are grains of truth in much of what he says, and that's what makes it funny, but that doesn't make his reviews accurate on the whole.
Chumblywumbly
27-12-2007, 22:46
There are grains of truth in much of what he says, and that's what makes it funny, but that doesn't make his reviews accurate on the whole.
Perhaps some of the time, but his review of some games, Halo 3 in particular, were spot-on.
AmericaFreedom2Fascis
28-12-2007, 00:04
Shame on me.

(Never heard of him.)

When I first saw the title, I thought you misspelled Yahtzee, the dice game. :p

That's the first thing that came to my mind too :D
ColaDrinkers
28-12-2007, 00:32
Perhaps some of the time, but his review of some games, Halo 3 in particular, were spot-on.

I disagree, and so do many others (obviously). How much time have you spent with the Halo games, with getting to know their gameplay? As much as Yahtzee, who didn't play the first two games and only because he had to rushed through Halo 3 as quickly as he could, and most likely on easy difficulty where no strategy at all is required, without trying one bit to understand the gameplay? Instead what he does is crack some jokes about the enemy design and blinding lights and calls it "average".

Even if he was right, the review would still be worthless to anyone looking to be informed about the game. But he isn't right. He's wrong, because Halo isn't average. Whether you like it or not seems very individual, I have friends on both sides on this issue and I'm certainly not going to try to convince you that the game is good. In fact I'm not sure I believe that myself anymore. But what it definitely is is different. It's vastly different from, say, Half-Life 2. In fact, I'm a bit uneasy to even call Halo an FPS. Sure, you play it from a first person perspective and you have guns that you shoot, but Halo is much more about movement than aiming, and with that clearly setting it apart from other games in the genre where aiming is the key gameplay ingredient and where movement is just what you do to reach a new location in which to do more aiming. A friend used the term First Person Dancer to describe Halo, and I find that to be spot-on. It's about dancing away from incoming fire, dance in and out from cover with precise timing, position yourself right and intimately know how every enemy behaves.

Yes, tl;dr and on a boring subject at that, but I was afraid I'd just be dismissed as a fanboy otherwise. Halo is one of those games that is incredibly overrated by some, and I know it's annoying to listen to the fanboys, but also incredibly misunderstood and underrated by others. And usually those in the anti-Halo camp, who love to describe it with words such as "average" and "nothing we haven't had on the PC for ages" have at best spent a whole 10 minutes with the game at their local game store. Yahtzee is one of those that don't get it and his Halo review is anything but spot-on.

It's funny though.
Soheran
28-12-2007, 00:35
When I first saw the title, I thought you misspelled Yahtzee, the dice game. :p

Me, too....
Chumblywumbly
28-12-2007, 04:24
Halo is one of those games that is incredibly overrated by some, and I know it's annoying to listen to the fanboys, but also incredibly misunderstood and underrated by others. And usually those in the anti-Halo camp, who love to describe it with words such as "average" and "nothing we haven't had on the PC for ages" have at best spent a whole 10 minutes with the game at their local game store.
For someone who's not a fanboy, you sure go on a bit.

First of all, calm down; it's just a game.

I've completed Halo3 on Heroic Co-Op; mostly to placate my obsessed flatmate. I've also played quite a bit of the online multiplayer, along with fair chunks of the previous two games so you can discount me as someone who dislikes Halo3 but who's only played 10 mins.

But it really is just an average FPS; a poor, thin, storyline that's a re-hash of the previous Halo plots ("Oh look, there's the Guilty Spark who betrayed me in the previous game, let's trust it. Oh dear, it's betrayed me."), arbitrary and needless jumps and lags in difficulty combined with stupid AI, and one of the most badly stereotyped black men in the history of gaming.

And what the fuck is up with Cortana blocking my view and slowing down the game all the bloody time?

The multiplayer sorta redeems it, but it too wares after a while; there's only so much of playing games with six-year-olds I can take.

So, yeah, I think the review is bag on the mark; average game all round.
Dryks Legacy
28-12-2007, 04:34
But it really is just an average FPS; a poor, thin, storyline that's a re-hash of the previous Halo plots ("Oh look, there's the Guilty Spark who betrayed me in the previous game, let's trust it. Oh dear, it's betrayed me.")

Someone posted this on another forum, it made me sad (http://boards.1up.com/zd/board/message?board.id=games&message.id=470708)

... Halo 3's story is not only bad, it's gibberish. There are so many things that contradict what was already established in the first two games, it renders the entire narrative pointless.

At the end of the level "The Covenant", the Master Chief, the Arbiter, and Guilty Spark decide to activate this new Halo. Guilty Spark says "A tactical pulse will completely eradicate the local infestation!"

Anyone who played Halo 1 and Halo 2 and stayed awake during the cutscenes can tell you what's wrong with this.

Lord Hood suggesting that staying on Earth and digging in was their best chance of survival... did he suddenly forget the part about the Covenant having found a way to destroy all life in the galaxy? Staying on Earth is the only way to guarantee Humanity's extinction - he was basically saying "The Covenant are trying to find the Ark which can kill us all - our best bet is to sit on our asses and not try to stop them." Brilliant.

Guilty Spark going from "Containment! Containment! Containment!" in the first games to "Yeah, the Flood have escaped, they're in possession of Slipspace enabled ships, they're wreaking havoc on Earth and probably will move on to the rest of the Universe next, but that's cool. My job description has magically changed to Help the Reclaimer do whatever it is he's doing."

"Truth's fleet outnumbers us three to one!" One hour later - "Truth's fleet lies in ruins!" So the massively overwhelmingly hugely vastly superior in every way shape and form alien conglomerate that is steamrolling the galaxy... is suddenly not.

Master Chief ending Halo 2 inside the Forerunner ship, beginning Halo 3 in a freefall to Earth. What the fuck happened there?

It goes on and on.
ColaDrinkers
28-12-2007, 09:58
But it really is just an average FPS

It doesn't bother me that people don't like Halo. I myself loved Halo but despised Halo 2 (it was like they didn't understand what parts made Halo great and just added more of the wrong things and badly screwed up game balance, and yes, the story was shit) and I haven't actually played Halo 3 at all, because I don't trust Bungie to make a good game anymore. Reviews clearly can't be trusted because Halo 2 scored way too high.

All that bothers me is words such as average, run-of-the-mill, boilerplate and others that always seem to find their way into any good Halo bashing, because if you have played Halo on Heroic you should know that the game plays very differently from most games. It would be much like dismissing Max Payne back when it was new as "an average third person shooter" when it had the then new bullet time feature and some rather unique cutscenes. It should at least be mentioned in the review, and phrasings that imply that the game is more or less identical to other games in the genre should be avoided.

But I've seen people play Halo on easy mode, standing there like they were playing a regular FPS, just absorbing all the incoming fire and then wait for their shield to go up so they can continue on to the next group of enemies. Easy and normal mode lets you do this in most situations. But you miss the point of the game, and it would be like playing through Max Payne without activating bullet time.
Evil Cantadia
28-12-2007, 11:22
It's pretty fun for a game of chance.
Dyakovo
29-12-2007, 00:32
If you've never heard of him , shame on you!
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2716-Zero-Punctuation-Guitar-Hero-III
What do you think of him?

Never heard of him, his review of Guitar Hero III was funny though
Boonytopia
29-12-2007, 03:32
I thought we were talking about Yathzee. :(

http://www.boardgamesexpress.com/images/yahtzee.jpg

Me too! :p
Unlucky_and_unbiddable
29-12-2007, 03:37
I thought we were talking about Yathzee. :(

http://www.boardgamesexpress.com/images/yahtzee.jpg

I hate that game, it's so boring. I prefer Risk. Actually, that is the only game that I can stand.
Dyakovo
29-12-2007, 04:16
I hate that game, it's so boring. I prefer Risk. Actually, that is the only game that I can stand.

Have you ever tried Diplomacy?
http://www.farscapegames.co.uk/ishop/images/1003/diplomacy.jpg