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What gives you the most pleasure?

The Parkus Empire
25-12-2007, 06:04
Emotional (social activities, listening to music, laughing, ect.), intellectual (reading, philosophizing, chess, ect.), or physical activities (sports, wine sipping, couching, eating, ect.)?
Maraque
25-12-2007, 06:05
"Physical activities" ;)
Vetalia
25-12-2007, 06:06
Intellectual, followed by physical.
Amarenthe
25-12-2007, 06:07
Well, depends on what kind of pleasure you're talking about... ;)
HSH Prince Eric
25-12-2007, 06:14
Physical.
Zilam
25-12-2007, 06:17
Well, depends on what kind of pleasure you're talking about... ;)

:eek: Someone is in the gutter :p


For me it would be spiritual pleasures first(i added that one :p), followed by intellectual, emotional and then physical :)
Soheran
25-12-2007, 06:40
A really good intellectual discussion gives me intense pleasure... though some of that is social, not intellectual.

Coming to a conclusion about a difficult philosophical question, especially one that I like, tends to put me in a good mood for days, in a way that pretty much nothing else does.

After those, I probably enjoy dancing most... which is physical and "emotional" (if I get what you mean by that properly). And I just generally love being with my friends, which is "emotional" too.

So I guess it's intellectual first, then emotional and physical tied for second... I love walking too.
Eureka Australis
25-12-2007, 06:44
Reading philosophy is quite entertaining for me, but it takes a long time reading it to enhance you're attention span to the length needed for the likes of Hobbes, Hegel, Plato or whoever. At the moment I am reading the Hegelian writings of Giovanni Gentile (the 'Philosopher of Fascism').
Iniika
25-12-2007, 06:48
Usually, physical activity is best all around.

Emotional and intellectial completely depends on the situation and the people.
Amarenthe
25-12-2007, 07:04
:eek: Someone is in the gutter :p

Yo, I'm just being realistic, here. :p

Really, it'd be emotional, then physical, then intellectual. Possibly reversing those last two.
FreedomEverlasting
25-12-2007, 07:49
I don't think emotional belongs there. Pleasure is an emotion experience. Everything is interpreted as an emotion before you can feel at all. It's more fitting to say that an physical, social, intellectual, or even spiritual activities triggers pleasure, but to say emotion triggers pleasure makes no sense.
Wilgrove
25-12-2007, 07:55
Emotional (social activities, listening to music, laughing, ect.), intellectual (reading, philosophizing, chess, ect.), or physical activities (sports, wine sipping, couching, eating, ect.)?

Emotional:Listening to music, laughing at a good episode of Scrubs, being choked up by an emotional scene.
Intellectual:Talking about Religion, Politics, life in General, talking about the ins and out of the Matrix world, playing games.
Physical:Flying, working out, lifting weights, riding my bike, walking, camping, and well, kinky sex.
Posi
25-12-2007, 08:00
Physical. There is nothing I like better than sleeping, if I can get to sleep that is...
Imota
25-12-2007, 08:07
Emotional: listening to music, being with friends, watching anime
Intellectual: Reading, writing, philosiphising
Physical: Walking and sightseeing, dancing, (censored)
BackwoodsSquatches
25-12-2007, 08:17
Music, and the company of a good dog.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
25-12-2007, 08:43
Music, followed by reading/writing/foreign languages. :)
Cameroi
25-12-2007, 09:29
creating and exploring. there is nothing which gratifies without containing at least some element of one or the other or both.

=^^=
.../\...
Straughn
25-12-2007, 11:36
As emphasized well ...
The Operative: Do you know what your sin is, Mal?
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Ah Hell... I'm a fan of all seven. But right now... I'm gonna have to go with wrath.
:p
Lunatic Goofballs
25-12-2007, 11:45
Soon, I will be able to do all three at once for I have decided to build a pie catapult this year in my backyard. :)

I'm still studying designs and materials, but I'll be ready to start building this spring. I will be taking pictures of the work in progress. I really hope I can convince the Powers that Be to let me share them with you. *nod*
Similization
25-12-2007, 11:52
Dancing, playing drums, hanging out with the wife, fighting, drinking & trying to figure out how to do my job. In that order. Most/all of that overlaps the emo/phys/social thing.

Merry whatever, by the way.
Cabra West
25-12-2007, 13:35
Emotional (social activities, listening to music, laughing, ect.), intellectual (reading, philosophizing, chess, ect.), or physical activities (sports, wine sipping, couching, eating, ect.)?

Sex. Good sex, that is.
Isidoor
25-12-2007, 17:17
Emotional (social activities, listening to music, laughing, ect.), intellectual (reading, philosophizing, chess, ect.), or physical activities (sports, wine sipping, couching, eating, ect.)?

all, reading philosophers while swimming with my friends.
Dyakovo
25-12-2007, 17:51
Emotional and Intellectual I guess
The Vuhifellian States
25-12-2007, 21:11
Emotional: Hanging out with friends, listening to music, and crying when I see my favorite-- I mean, punching the wall! That's manly!
Intellectual: Reading, debating religion and politics, chess, the Halo Universe
Physical: Biking, sleeping, eating, lifting weights, and gaming.
Vojvodina-Nihon
25-12-2007, 22:44
First comes the intellectual pleasure of creating a world. Whether that be writing a story -- a written world; drawing a map -- a pictorial world; composing a musical work -- an aural world; designing or building a model landscape -- a physical world.

Second comes the equally intellectual pleasure of experiencing worlds created by others. In this category come hiking, skiing, kayaking, snowshoeing; reading books fictional and factual; looking at maps and paintings, and analysing them; listening to music of all genres; viewing model landscapes virtual and real; all created by others more imaginative or patient than I.

Third comes good food.
(Good sleep and good sex are not far behind.)
Ilie
25-12-2007, 22:51
Wow. I'd say all those things but in that same order.
Mirkai
26-12-2007, 01:22
Revenge.
CthulhuFhtagn
26-12-2007, 01:41
What gives me the most pleasure? Whatever category "being amused at how utterly inappropriate this question is when applied to me" qualifies as. I'm guessing intellectual. I'm a fan of cruel humor, even, hell, especially when the joke's on me.
Conserative Morality
26-12-2007, 05:15
Spiritual. Then intellectual,physical, and emotional.
Potarius
26-12-2007, 05:51
I like all of them equally.

Am I the only one?
Grave_n_idle
26-12-2007, 07:28
Emotional (social activities, listening to music, laughing, ect.), intellectual (reading, philosophizing, chess, ect.), or physical activities (sports, wine sipping, couching, eating, ect.)?

Cheese. It qualifies as all three.
Amarenthe
26-12-2007, 07:37
*snip amazing Firefly quote*
:p

Please tell me you're a Firefly fan. You're quickly becoming one of my favourite people. ;)
Grave_n_idle
26-12-2007, 07:39
Please tell me you're a Firefly fan. You're quickly becoming one of my favourite people. ;)

There's a few Browncoats around here, actually. :)
The Loyal Opposition
26-12-2007, 08:39
Coming to a conclusion about a difficult philosophical question, especially one that I like...

I find that I like conclusions that I don't prefer, especially when unexpected. Although in these cases, the "discussion" typically occurs within the realm of fiction; mostly written (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World) works (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_(novel)) and film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scanner_Darkly_(film)), but also the rare computer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex) game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex:_Invisible_War).

Being faced with a critical dillema and having to make a final and irreversable choice, only being able to see how the knife is creatively twisted into one's back after the fact. Happy endings are overdone and boring; it's far more interesting when every possible outcome is either uncomfortable, bad, or outright frightening.
Amarenthe
26-12-2007, 11:40
There's a few Browncoats around here, actually. :)

Excellent. I fit right in. :)

My best friend and I get together for a weekend every eight months or so and watch every episode, start to finish, and then Serenity. We live in different cities, so it's a nice bonding/catch-up ritual, and fortunately, it hasn't gotten old yet.
Divine Imaginary Fluff
26-12-2007, 12:46
I don't think emotional belongs there. Pleasure is an emotion experience. Everything is interpreted as an emotion before you can feel at all.No. To begin with, sensory information is not emotion, yet is felt. Nor are intellectual concepts emotion, yet can be felt when visualized. Desires in themselves are not emotion, though they are generally fueled by it. (a example of where so is often not the case would be the raw desire to solve an intellectual problem) Emotions are responses to non-emotional stimuli and mental processes, felt in addition to them and acting as catalysts.

Though these claims of mine stem from introspection and personal experience. Quite significantly, for a limited time, I was once rendered completely emotionally numb. I just went about my days as usual, though I didn't react as strongly, nor had as much motivation to do/not do things, as the driving force of the emotions wasn't there. I still felt many intellectual desires, though. All in all, the lack of emotion only reduced the "width" of experience by a little bit, though the height was rather flattened as there was no longer any emotional charge to anything I felt.
Soleichunn
26-12-2007, 16:34
Emotional (social activities, listening to music, laughing, ect.), intellectual (reading, philosophizing, chess, ect.), or physical activities (sports, wine sipping, couching, eating, ect.)?

Natural neurochemical actions.

Music, and the company of a good dog.

As long as that isn't considered a physical activity :p.

*Drags mind out of the disgusting gutter*
Thracedon
26-12-2007, 16:41
Intellectual, followed by emotional, followed by physical.

And Browncoats ftw! Got the Firefly dvds for Christmas :)
Vandal-Unknown
26-12-2007, 17:44
Emotional (social activities, listening to music, laughing, ect.), intellectual (reading, philosophizing, chess, ect.), or physical activities (sports, wine sipping, couching, eating, ect.)?

... whuh? A smart joke during sex.

But absolutely no laughing at ironic posts on NSG during sex... most of the time I think this place is the perfect abstinence initiator.
Cabra West
27-12-2007, 11:24
I don't believe ANY of you guys who said you get more pleasure intellectual activities than from sex. No fekkin' way.
It might be more rewarding, and it might even keep you occupied for longer, but if it gives you more pleasure I think you might want to talk to your doctor.
Auevia
27-12-2007, 12:02
I like bits of all, to be honest, but I think I prefer intellectual most. :)
[NS]Fergi America
27-12-2007, 12:44
Emotional (social activities, listening to music, laughing, ect.), intellectual (reading, philosophizing, chess, ect.), or physical activities (sports, wine sipping, couching, eating, ect.)?


I've been known to forego all else when I get a new game, so I have to place "playing a new RPG or stragegy video game" as the height. I'm not sure how to classify that. When a game's new, there's the intellectual challenge of figuring out how to win (and how to mod it). But there's also the raw delight of pwning everything that gets in the way, and that never goes away no matter how old the game is.

Eating is next.

Music and comedy are cool too, but I'd rather be doing one of the first two.
Vojvodina-Nihon
27-12-2007, 17:06
[Intellectual activities] might be more rewarding, and it might even keep you occupied for longer,
Innat the definition of pleasure right thar?

With some of the other physical pleasures I listed for my #2 -- you know, hiking, swimming etc. -- it's not so much while you're doing it that it is pleasurable, so much as after it's over and done with: you sit there and think, "That was pretty cool. I want to do it again." It's a neuro-philosophical construct I call the pleasure of experience, as you have experienced a perhaps little-known aspect of the world, or one that some people may be unable or unwilling to experience.

Sex, therefore, falls into the same category; except (a) I don't do it nearly as often, and (b) it requires "the right person", which I have rather failed at finding so far, hence experiences up 'til now have been rather subpar and it is listed at the still respectable number five spot. The other activities, by contrast, I can do on my own and still enjoy, whereas I never learned how to have sex with myself. I suppose it could eventually displace sleep, and some varieties of food (those that make one feel like crap afterwards, ignore the scatological pun).
Johnny B Goode
27-12-2007, 17:56
Emotional (social activities, listening to music, laughing, ect.), intellectual (reading, philosophizing, chess, ect.), or physical activities (sports, wine sipping, couching, eating, ect.)?

Emotional, followed by intellectual.
The Parkus Empire
27-12-2007, 18:12
Innat the definition of pleasure right thar?

Just so.

With some of the other physical pleasures I listed for my #2 -- you know, hiking, swimming etc. -- it's not so much while you're doing it that it is pleasurable, so much as after it's over and done with: you sit there and think, "That was pretty cool. I want to do it again." It's a neuro-philosophical construct I call the pleasure of experience, as you have experienced a perhaps little-known aspect of the world, or one that some people may be unable or unwilling to experience.

Fencing.

Sex, therefore, falls into the same category; except (a) I don't do it nearly as often, and (b) it requires "the right person", which I have rather failed at finding so far, hence experiences up 'til now have been rather subpar and it is listed at the still respectable number five spot.

Ya, ya.

The other activities, by contrast, I can do on my own and still enjoy, whereas I never learned how to have sex with myself.

*hem*

I suppose it could eventually displace sleep, and some varieties of food (those that make one feel like crap afterwards, ignore the scatological pun).

Sleep and food? Meh.
Mad hatters in jeans
27-12-2007, 21:35
Everything at once.
Picture it, playing chess, listening to loud rock music, having sex, walking the dog, making intellectual conversation over the phone, writing a story, lifting weights, and drinking beer and hot chocolate.lol.
I wonder how you'd die first, your heart bursting or your embarresment over the phone!
Indri
27-12-2007, 23:07
Raumschach, debate, sex, lulz, and beating the crap out of emo kids for being the ugly, whiny, psuedo-depressed dipshits they are. Anyone want to play Raumschach?
New Limacon
28-12-2007, 00:42
Intellectual, followed by physical.
I like a nice emotional aperitif in between, to cleanse the palate.
Mirkana
28-12-2007, 03:03
Intellectual, to be dethroned by physical once I get a wife.
Tangryo
28-12-2007, 03:23
For me, its intellectual then physical. I was a geek since grade 7 and even though i am retired now, I read and study new stuffs and talk about politics with my friend. Usually though I play basketball for two hours a day at the local gyms and I am happy after that.
United Coastal States
28-12-2007, 05:55
Enjoying nature.
Straughn
28-12-2007, 06:36
:eek: Someone is in the gutter :p And *someone* needs to work on that special typing technique! :p
Straughn
28-12-2007, 06:38
Really, it'd be emotional, then physical, then intellectual. Possibly reversing those last two.
Speaking of possibilities, i'm pretty sure the potential of those kinds of things can be altered by frequent, un-lurksome posting here at NS, no?
;)
Straughn
28-12-2007, 06:42
I like all of them equally.

Am I the only one?
*ahem*
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13319606&postcount=18
Straughn
28-12-2007, 06:48
Please tell me you're a Firefly fan. You're quickly becoming one of my favourite people. ;)I'll tell you that i've heard scuttlebutt about a second movie.
!
I've also heard it's somewhat dependent upon sales of the new collectors' edition release.
*nods emphatically*

And, i can also say, Grave_n_idle is quite right. :)
Straughn
28-12-2007, 06:50
Excellent. I fit right in. :)

My best friend and I get together for a weekend every eight months or so and watch every episode, start to finish, and then Serenity. We live in different cities, so it's a nice bonding/catch-up ritual, and fortunately, it hasn't gotten old yet.

That is so awesome. *bows*

In addition to that, i'm thinking of more Carnivale (props) and Dead Like Me nights. :)
Straughn
28-12-2007, 06:54
Music, and the company of a good dog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt8uNG02ixA
!
Grave_n_idle
28-12-2007, 07:49
I'll tell you that i've heard scuttlebutt about a second movie.
!
I've also heard it's somewhat dependent upon sales of the new collectors' edition release.
*nods emphatically*

And, i can also say, Grave_n_idle is quite right. :)

I usually am. :D

If it helps the chances of the movie, I've done my part. I've bought the series twice, and given one away... and bought the movie three times (one is the special edition), and given one away. :)

I'm out there spreading the word. You can't stop the signal.
Straughn
28-12-2007, 07:59
You can't stop the signal.
...but they might kill you with a sword. How weird is that?
Amor Pulchritudo
28-12-2007, 10:17
I don't know if anything can be purely emotional, intellectual or physical. Most things are a combination of two or all of the above. However... I find most pleasure in things that stimulate my emotions, but again, they can be a mixture of the three.

Creating artwork: 1. emotional- creating meaning or mood. 2. intellectual- finding inspiration in other artwork, books, concepts and ideas. 3. physical- the physical pleasure of having paint on my fingers, or trashing a brush in anger at a canvas.

Great sex: 1. physical- physical feeling, orgasm etc. 2. emotional- feelings of love/passion/lust. 3. intellectual (but to a lesser extent, I guess)- I'm turned on by intelligent guys.

Listening to music: 1. emotional- experiencing the mood. 2. intellectual- finding meaning in the lyircs or music. 3. physical- feeling like dancing, or getting goosebumps.

Passionate conversation: 1. intellectual- intellectual stimulation about interesting topics, like politics, religion, music, art and life itself. 2. emotional- personal feelings and thoughts are shared about topics i'm passionate about. 3. physical (again, to a lesser extent)- the feeling of being riled up by the intensity of conversation.
Amarenthe
30-12-2007, 22:18
Speaking of possibilities, i'm pretty sure the potential of those kinds of things can be altered by frequent, un-lurksome posting here at NS, no?
;)

Haha, caught me. I was reverting to my lurksome ways... tragedy of all tragedies.

But I just concluded a Firefly sessions, speaking of the almighty show itself. ;) Which makes my absence from NSG forgivable, I believe!

I'm really hoping for a second movie... I've heard promising things, and not so promising things. *crosses fingers* I also *insist* that we, as loyal fans, are rewarded with SOME sort of concrete conclusion to the Inara/Mal oh-so-convoluted love/hate relationship. In the form of finally getting over their respective prides and hangups and acting on their feelings, gorramit. :p

(But that's just the romantic sucker in me.)
Straughn
31-12-2007, 09:10
Haha, caught me. I was reverting to my lurksome ways... tragedy of all tragedies.

But I just concluded a Firefly sessions, speaking of the almighty show itself. ;) Which makes my absence from NSG forgivable, I believe!

I'm really hoping for a second movie... I've heard promising things, and not so promising things. *crosses fingers* I also *insist* that we, as loyal fans, are rewarded with SOME sort of concrete conclusion to the Inara/Mal oh-so-convoluted love/hate relationship. In the form of finally getting over their respective prides and hangups and acting on their feelings, gorramit. :p

(But that's just the romantic sucker in me.)I could see it, especially the way he answered from his bunk in the movie.
To be fair, though, i never wanted to see any romantic consummation in X-Files 'twixt Mulder and Scully - Scully and Skinner wasn't so bad. Mulder & himself? Not so bad either.
Clyde Bruckman: You know, there are worse ways to go, but I can't think of a more undignified way than autoerotic asphyxiation.
Mulder: Why are you telling me that?
Clyde Bruckman: Look, forget I mentioned it. It's none of my business.
:)
Grave_n_idle
31-12-2007, 09:20
I could see it, especially the way he answered from his bunk in the movie.
To be fair, though, i never wanted to see any romantic consummation in X-Files 'twixt Mulder and Scully - Scully and Skinner wasn't so bad. Mulder & himself? Not so bad either.

:)

I'd kind of hoped for the tension between Mal and Wash to go somewhere...
Straughn
31-12-2007, 09:25
I'd kind of hoped for the tension between Mal and Wash to go somewhere...
Uhm, the mustachioed Wash, or the impaled corpse Wash?
Even for Mal, that seems a little too far. Although he has a sexy manner with toy dinosaurs.
Grave_n_idle
31-12-2007, 09:28
Uhm, the mustachioed Wash, or the impaled corpse Wash?
Even for Mal, that seems a little too far. Although he has a sexy manner with toy dinosaurs.

Wel, there's certainly a tension between them when they are held prisoner together... sure, they displace the tension onto Zoe...
Straughn
31-12-2007, 09:37
Wel, there's certainly a tension between them when they are held prisoner together... sure, they displace the tension onto Zoe...Did i mention that was the last episode i watched (again), last week at X-mass? Right before heading off to watch AVP 2: Requiem. The guy had just bought the collection, and had it on when we went to pick him up.
Zoe/Mal/Wash threesome, yeah, i could see that. :)
Reminds me of certain NSG hookups, actually.
Grave_n_idle
31-12-2007, 09:42
Did i mention that was the last episode i watched (again), last week at X-mass? Right before heading off to watch AVP 2: Requiem. The guy had just bought the collection, and had it on when we went to pick him up.
Zoe/Mal/Wash threesome, yeah, i could see that. :)
Reminds me of certain NSG hookups, actually.

Ooh... AVP: Requiem? That's out already? That's on my list.

Yay! More people for the cause! Go Browncoats!

*sigh* There just is no bad Firefly...
Straughn
31-12-2007, 09:58
Ooh... AVP: Requiem? That's out already? That's on my list.It seemed a better fiction to engage in than the more obvious and ubiquitous one. :p
One major, noticeable flaw in the flick, however. After ya see it, toss it back at me, since i got a little peeved about it.
:)

Yay! More people for the cause! Go Browncoats!Never can be enough!

*sigh* There just is no bad Firefly...True. Just wonder what they'll cover in the second flick, other than a little of Book's op days and perhaps more of the fightin' coverage.

BTW - i'm watching Lost right now, season 2 ... Justin's in it! :eek:
Moanarouge
31-12-2007, 10:02
intellectual indeed. I tend to philosiphize bout 76 percent of the day. next to that emotional, music etc.
Saxnot
31-12-2007, 12:15
A mix of emotional and intelectual activities, I guess. Smoking and drinking with friends, listening to music, and discussing something relatively meaningful at the same time, or speaking a foreign language. Just to mix it up in there. And to keep my hand in at French now I don't formally study it. :p