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I was watching X-play and the game of the year thing, and when they came with the game of the year, I thought"HOW COULD HAVE BIOSHOCK WON!?!?!" Anyone else share these feelings?

Great game, original battle mechanics, completly original storyline, AMAZING ambiance but lame ending.
BUT THERE WERE SO MANY BETTER GAMES!

Great game, original battle mechanics, completly original storyline, AMAZING ambiance but lame ending.

Great game, original battle mechanics, completly original storyline, AMAZING ambiance but lame ending.

Original?

BUT THERE WERE SO MANY BETTER GAMES!

Writing in all capitals doesn't excuse your lack of examples.

Dude, Ass Creed sucks. Bioshock had a good story, fair graphics, and added super-powers to a shooter. It got a little easy towards the end and the endings weren't the best but I can't really complain because of the obvious effort and talent that went into the background and story. The lack of multiplayer was a bit of a downer but the flexibility of the gameplay almost made up for it and I think that too often game producers these days skimp on the SP and storyline just to throw out another shoot 'em up Death Match or CTF. Bioshock is a good game and better than most others released this year. I can't think of a more deserving game.

This isn't like Al Gore winning the Nobel Prize, Bioshock really met my standards in a game. Considering how critical I can be of literature, cinema, games and other forms of entertainment, that's high praise.

... I play it because objectivism sucks.

Other than that, feels like the usual FPS set-up. Graphics are good, but that's subjective,... haven't played AC yet.

... I play it because objectivism sucks.


"It was particularly well reviewed in the mainstream press where its "morality-based" storyline, immersive environment and Ayn Rand-inspired dystopian setting were all singled out for praise.[15]

Set in an alternative history 1960, the game places the player in the role of a plane crash survivor named Jack, who must explore the underwater Objectivist-dystopian city of Rapture, and survive attacks by the mutated beings and mechanical drones that populate it."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioshock

Fascinating....

**adds to list of games that might be bought if happened upon in the bargain bin**

Original?
In addition you your guns you got fuckin' customized super-powers. You could shoot lightning, fire, ice, and bees out your fingers. Who wouldn't want to be able to shoot a swarm of angry tics out of their nipples or some shit like that? And the Big Daddy was a roaming boss battle that could be repeated several times during the game giving you the chance to experiment with what powers and weapons you'd want to use to kill it. Did I mention you could shoot bees out of your fingers?

Original you say? For consoles maybe. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1394-Zero-Punctuation-BioShock) Even then though from what I've heard it is one of the best games all year still.

Original you say? For consoles maybe. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1394-Zero-Punctuation-BioShock) Even then though from what I've heard it is one of the best games all year still.

So is console-ification the big trend now?

I'm usually a few years behind as I mainly buy games out of the bargain bin (because 99.9% of the regular selection is absolute tripe not worth $10 never mind $50 or $60). It was only a few days ago that I picked up Deus Ex: Invisible War for the PC. While the review you link to strongly implies that the reviewer likes the original Deus Ex (which is understandable, considering that it is simply the best game ever. Getting it out of the bin for $5 is better still.), its sequel, while not entirely horrible, still feels like the "kick in the balls" mentioned. If I wanted an Xbox game, I'd get an Xbox. But I don't, so I didn't.

Perhaps someone at Eidos Montreal has heard all the tearing of clothes and gnashing of teeth (http://www.deusex3.com/)? It'll be a few years before I know, anyway.

Original? Has everyone forgotten about the System Shock games already?

Bioshock was a great game, great graphics (for a console game), great story line, refreshing game-play (not necessarily original but a type we don't see done well that often), great everything. However I would still have to say Mass Effect for Game of the Year just because it actually did some revolutionary things for games for instance: All voice-acting (quality at that), amazing graphics (again for consoles), excellent combat system for a RPG (Real Time), excellently created huge and immersive world and completely original story line. Assasins Creed was good but some of the graphics for character models was off, the game was long and repetetive, and the ending blew. But overall I think Mass Effect should have taken GOTY just because of its revolutionary approach to gaming especially RPGS.

I can understand anyone that holds Mass Effect as their personal GotY, but I can also see a lot of people that don't want it in that position because it's glitchy and incomplete in places.

I can understand anyone that holds Mass Effect as their personal GotY, but I can also see a lot of people that don't want it in that position because it's glitchy and incomplete in places.

Explain yourself....

So far we've only had one example of an alternative.....Much more are required....


I've played Bioshock (on PC) and enjoyed the gameplay, the large levels, the RPG elements, and saw enough there to not dispute its winning.

So far we've only had one example of an alternative.....Much more are required....


I've played Bioshock (on PC) and enjoyed the gameplay, the large levels, the RPG elements, and saw enough there to not dispute its winning.

I agree. While there are similarities to System Shock 2 (like that was a surprise, being the next game from the same developer), Bioshock had some real innovation, a great story and very effective, intuitive gameplay.

I must admit, I personally preferred Crysis. But on an objective basis, I would agree that Bioshock had the overall edge.

Explain yourself....

The textures popping in after 3 seconds, squad members getting stuck? I think the main problem with Mass Effect (it's a great game, don't get me wrong) though is the rubbish AI, they always seem to all charge in en masse.

Bioshock is a well-deserving winner, though it's not really to my taste although I own it as it's just a tad disturbing for me to really get into.

I think that the whole 'game of the year' concept is pretty academic these days, since the entire gaming industry has taken a downhill slump to the point where it's just a graphics contest. Bioshock is as good a choice as any...

I liked BioShock, but it was ridiculously short. And piss-easy. And the lack of more than two endings.

The Big Daddies were awesome, the art deco-ness was wicked, as well as the fact you could actually use a Webley-alike pistol. There aren't enough Webley-Scotts in computer games.

Now, I haven't played any of these, so I'm going from what I've heard. The main possible contender would be Portal, I would think. Otherwise, Mass Effect, Crysis (maybe), Assassin's Creed.

Anyone who's played any/all of these, want to weigh in?

Now, I haven't played any of these, so I'm going from what I've heard. The main possible contender would be Portal, I would think. Otherwise, Mass Effect, Crysis (maybe), Assassin's Creed.

Anyone who's played any/all of these, want to weigh in?

I played all of them, and Mass Effect and Bioshock are the only ones that really make sense. Crysis blows in comparison, and Assassins creed, while good, isn't really the quality game people make it out to be. Portal definitely could have contended MERIT wise, but I think if Portal won it would be roughly the same as your local hardcore band all the sudden becoming famous and winning a Grammy.

And yes, that comparison is correct. (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/f1/Deliciousportal.JPG)

Bioshock has no real contender for this title. IT takes it by default!

And as it's the game I've enjoyed most this year (With the possible exception of portal, but that really is too short to win anything!), I'm happy.

I'll put forward World in Conflict as a contender just to be different.

Dude, Ass Creed sucks. Bioshock had a good story, fair graphics, and added super-powers to a shooter.
That makes Dark Messiah of Might and Magic the best game ever. Plus it's abilities were better applied than those in Bioshock.

Mario Galaxy should have won, and I'm an xbox 360 owner not a Wii owner. Bioshock was interesting but it was boring.

Mario Galaxy should have won, and I'm an xbox 360 owner not a Wii owner. Bioshock was interesting but it was boring.

Well it's already won 1UP's user voted GotY, and it'll probably get editor's GotY from somewhere.

Bioshock was interesting but it was boring.
Don't those sort of cancel each other out?

That makes Dark Messiah of Might and Magic the best game ever. Plus it's abilities were better applied than those in Bioshock.

Alas the hastle with actually getting Dark messiah to work ...(and even then, there were lighting bugs) would have to remove it from the list.....Portal could have been a stronger contender had it been longer....

I have yet to get either Crysis or Assasins Creed...

I was watching X-play and the game of the year thing, and when they came with the game of the year, I thought"HOW COULD HAVE BIOSHOCK WON?"
Because it's a superb game, even with some of its shortcomings, such as the fact that if you had the patience, it was piss easy, and that nothing much good was released for the XBOX in 2007?

I'll put forward World in Conflict as a contender just to be different.
Good, but not great.

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No offense, but I'm suprised you play video games(and/or watch X-Play).

And yeah even though I never played Bioshock,but Call of Duty 4 > all. I mean everyone was like WTF?! Seriously CoD4 is great and I heard Assasin's Creed was awesome and I really want to play/buy it. Plus Halo 3 was good. I mean a little lacking in story line but multiplayer is damn fun. Guitar Hero isn't game of the year material but it was also really good, good enough for a nomination. Perhaps a nomination that would have knocking Bioshock out of the race. But although I've never played it there were just so many other better games. I mean it looked really cool, but when it actually came out I didn't here anything.

That video about Bioshock that someone posted makes sense fo what I've heard. Good game but not the best game.

Yes,CoD4 is generic in its own sense but its just so,so,so....so,so much fun. I mean the airsupport and radar elements bring a new spin to the CoD series. Along with the Create A Class, because multiplayer is absolutely amazing. Plus the storyline is insanely well plotted,and enjoyable to follow. CoD4 is very timely and lives up to the name Modern Warfare.

Eugh, CoD4. The mission in the AC-130U was nice, the rest less so. And the MP, which is basically a jumping around like a tool sim? Eugh.

Call me a "old-skool" or whatever, but FPS isn't a genre suited for consoles as it is for the PC, and as long as the idea of certain developers is that console gamers want piece of cake games with automatically activated godmode it won't be.

Vitachambers(AKA: Always Godmode ON) = One of the supreme representatives of the dumbing down game development paradigm also known as consolitis which believes the target audience is dumber than PC gamers and thus games for consoles must always be "dumbed down".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbing_down#Computing

And with shameless hype about this dumbed down FPS being the "spiritual successor" of the much superior System Shock 2 where you would actually be totally scared thanks to the opposite: because there ammunition and health were pretty much scarce and the environment was much spookier regardless of not having fancy graphics with next-gen bloom and pixel shaders.

And I'm sure there is a game developed exclusively for console better than it. Developing games both for PC and console with the marketing dept. belief that those games need to be dumbed down is the equivalent of all those blockbuster trend that lead to the making of crappy movies in Hollywood.

I thought Bioshock was good, but not game of the year, because it's lack of multiplayer. Remember, we do what we must because we can.

I thought Bioshock was good, but not game of the year, because it's lack of multiplayer. Remember, we do what we must because we can.

If it had a tacked on multiplayer it would've been a worse game for it.

I was watching X-play and the game of the year thing, and when they came with the game of the year, I thought"HOW COULD HAVE BIOSHOCK WON!?!?!" Anyone else share these feelings?

your grammer is crap. go lern a book, cretin.

Bioshock is a fun game ( I haven't beaten it yet)..but I don't think it makes game of the year....

COD4 great game...I like the multi player better than Halo 3's and the AC-130 level is pretty sweet but..I find the level where you retreat up the hill against wave after wave of rebels to be better...what was that level's name again anyways?

i thought bioshock was a great game right up until the end

it seemed like a very quick ending just to finsih off the project. i would of much better preferred an open ending and a chance for a sequel

If there is a game released this year that deserves the title of Worst Game of the Year, it is Halo 3. That whole series is overrated drivel. Any Duke Nukem is better than the entire Halo series. You fight the most generic enemies with weapons that look and sound like toys, Halo is Ringworld, level design was way too repetative, and 15 minutes in you find yourself thinking 'the only thing that's missing from this load of crap is a Death Star-style super-weapon' and then...'it's a weapon.' For Fuck's sake! How could a game this terrible be so damn popular?

Any Duke Nukem is better than the entire Halo series.

O rly?

http://www.godmodeonline.com/comics/gm20070924.jpg

Call me a "old-skool" or whatever, but FPS isn't a genre suited for consoles as it is for the PC, and as long as the idea of certain developers is that console gamers want piece of cake games with automatically activated godmode it won't be.

Vitachambers(AKA: Always Godmode ON) = One of the supreme representatives of the dumbing down game development paradigm also known as consolitis which believes the target audience is dumber than PC gamers and thus games for consoles must always be "dumbed down".

Did you ever play Planescape: Torment?


Saying that though, I was a bit disappointed by BioShock. It was a good game. But not deserving of the 10/10's and high 90% it seemed to score everywhere.

For a start it got ridiculously easy after you leave the fisheries. Even on hard. And it got progressively easier as the game went on, with the splicers becoming trivial bugs. Which was a bit of a shame. I'm not sure if I found this because I played it on the PC though.

The final boss, whilst being a logical choice in the context of the story, was also a bit pants.

Though I did enjoy it.

O rly?
*snip comic*

Amazing.

I personally would have chose CoD4 just because of how brilliant the entire experience was. The story was well written and the voice acting was superb. The gameplay is also great and the multiplayer is probably the best of this generation so far.

Bah! MP3 beats bioshock any day.

The game play was great and I really enjoyed the story line although I am a bit of an Ayn Rand enthusiast.

Call me a "old-skool" or whatever, but FPS isn't a genre suited for consoles as it is for the PC, and as long as the idea of certain developers is that console gamers want piece of cake games with automatically activated godmode it won't be.

Vitachambers(AKA: Always Godmode ON) = One of the supreme representatives of the dumbing down game development paradigm also known as consolitis which believes the target audience is dumber than PC gamers and thus games for consoles must always be "dumbed down".

When you talk about dumbing down you usually mean features or complexity or such and not the level of difficulty. Which, by the way, is rarely any higher in PC games than in console games. Something I can agree with, however, is that some PC devs are really shitty console devs, and should probably stay on the platform they know. And vice versa, of course.

Anyway, they admitted that the way the vitachambers were implemented was flawed, and the patch lets you turn them off. Not that you really needed to use them in the first place. I see it a bit like quicksaves; it can be tempting to use them a lot, and it would make the game much easier than intended, but you don't have to do it.