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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7153584.stm

Actually, come to think about it this might not be so surprising. Isn't LG always going around and giving kicks to the groin. Perhaps we should neuter LG in the interests of world peace.

... anyway, what would you say if you saw a doctor unicycling down the street?

Or, we could crawl entirely up his ass, and live there.

Like squatters.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7153584.stm

Actually, come to think about it this might not be so surprising. Isn't LG always going around and giving kicks to the groin. Perhaps we should neuter LG in the interests of world peace.

... anyway, what would you say if you saw a doctor unicycling down the street?



Meh,

The research ooks like a load of bollocks to me

Seems like he just found that testosterone is linked to aggression and the humour is just a vehicle for the aggression

It could be that humour is an alternate outlet for aggression.

Young teen gets aggressive and rebels against society. Society crushes his spirit. Young broken man now resorts to snide humour to release pent up aggression.

I seem to remember reading somewhere years ago that in general a good comedian or comedienne usually has suffered or suffers from depression. Meh.

Or, we could crawl entirely up his ass, and live there.

Like squatters.

:p subtle

It's not a brilliantly put-together article, and what D-F said sounds quite possible to be the case, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to find out that the link is true.

:p subtle

Im nothing if not subtle :)

Meh, most funny men I know are not aggressive in the least. The aggressive men (albeit very few) I know aren't funny. And what about the types of humor that doesn't include making fun of others (like puns etc). Most people I know, including myself, would probably cheer if a professor of ours started unicycling (although we would also think that he was trying to hard to be "cool", but only a little bit).

also:

He suggested men might respond aggressively because they see the other unicycling man as a threat, attracting female attention away from themselves.

wtf?

Seems to make sense, but he forgets, some women can be just as snide and irritating, and not all men with good sense of humour are aggressive.
Seems to group you into, good humour=aggressive.
no humour=weak.
Which is of course wrong, but it does make a few interesting points.

Or, we could crawl entirely up his ass, and live there.

Like squatters.


That might upset my wife. Not to mention the pooping difficulties I would have. *nod*

I missed the part where he defined humor, established that unicycling was funny, and proved conclusively that snide comments are in fact jokes.

Maybe he demonstrated anecdotally that being mean is linked to testosterone?

I seem to remember reading somewhere years ago that in general a good comedian or comedienne usually has suffered or suffers from depression. Meh.

I'd believe that. Especially since it seems that there is a trend of comedians suddenly offing themselves.

It could be that humour is an alternate outlet for aggression.

Young teen gets aggressive and rebels against society. Society crushes his spirit. Young broken man now resorts to snide humour to release pent up aggression.

I seem to remember reading somewhere years ago that in general a good comedian or comedienne usually has suffered or suffers from depression. Meh.

I think the humor shows that his spirit has not been crushed. It's still active. Crushed spirit sounds, to me, like you're talking about someone who just gets depressed and drinks until he falls asleep.

Seems to make sense, but he forgets, some women can be just as snide and irritating, and not all men with good sense of humour are aggressive.
Seems to group you into, good humour=aggressive.
no humour=weak.
Which is of course wrong, but it does make a few interesting points.

He addresses the fact that female comedians are hugely outnumbered by male ones.

And women who are snide and mocking tend to become placed as leaders in their cliques. It's part of how they control their social network. And leadership in women is linked to testosterone too.

Meh, most funny men I know are not aggressive in the least. The aggressive men (albeit very few) I know aren't funny. And what about the types of humor that doesn't include making fun of others (like puns etc). Most people I know, including myself, would probably cheer if a professor of ours started unicycling (although we would also think that he was trying to hard to be "cool", but only a little bit).

also:



wtf?

You seem to be limiting your definition of aggression to physical displays or angry outbursts.

The scientist is using the word more broadly as the urge to establish oneself in the social heirarchy. He's saying that men tend to use it to bring others down and elevate themselves. Which would mean that men who are funny are just as aggressive as men who use braun, they just channel their aggression into a form that plays to their strengths.

It also explains why women so consistently rate "sense of humor" as their number one attractive trait in men. It demonstrates virility without them having to be so crass as to admit things like "nice body" or "fat wallet,"

That might upset my wife. Not to mention the pooping difficulties I would have. *nod*

I think she can go in there with a "No-knock warrant" to surprise them and clean the whole lot out. Hopefully she doesn't make a mistake and serve it on someone else's anus.

So,what...I lack testosterone? Is that it? Is that why I can't make a joke worth a damn?

So,what...I lack testosterone? Is that it? Is that why I can't make a joke worth a damn?

You girly man.

You girly man.

Yes. Yes I am.

Yes. Yes I am.

:D

So,what...I lack testosterone? Is that it? Is that why I can't make a joke worth a damn?

You girly man.

Quick! To the Hanz and Franz School of Comedy!

We will pump you up!

Quick! To the Hanz and Franz School of Comedy!

We will pump you up!

No thank you.

Give them something to make them grow hair on their chest (onions or porridge or something), then they will be sufficently manly to do their daily business with other non-hairs!

Err. Fair enough. Incidentally :

"The idea that unicycling is intrinsically funny does not explain the findings," said Professor Shuster.

Is just about the best science that I have ever read.

Quick! To the Hanz and Franz School of Comedy!

We will pump you up!
Steroids - for great tomfoolery!

Who else gets the feeling that this article is actually an elaborate joke at the expense of scientific research? Sorta like the writers were overexposed to testosterone in utero, and decided to get aggressive towards scientists...?

Who else gets the feeling that this article is actually an elaborate joke at the expense of scientific research? Sorta like the writers were overexposed to testosterone in utero, and decided to get aggressive towards scientists...?It was done by a man..... He's aggressively fooling us!

I seem to remember reading somewhere years ago that in general a good comedian or comedienne usually has suffered or suffers from depression. Meh.
Yeah, that's about accurate. It takes a certain kind of person to laugh at everything.

Edit: Also, it's pretty universal for art. There's a saying that says something like "You must suffer for your art".

So Lunatic Goofballs used to be Emo?:confused: That's hard to believe.;)

Not only that, but he's the manlyist man around here!

So Lunatic Goofballs used to be Emo?:confused: That's hard to believe.;)

You seem to be limiting your definition of aggression to physical displays or angry outbursts.

The scientist is using the word more broadly as the urge to establish oneself in the social heirarchy. He's saying that men tend to use it to bring others down and elevate themselves. Which would mean that men who are funny are just as aggressive as men who use braun, they just channel their aggression into a form that plays to their strengths.

It also explains why women so consistently rate "sense of humor" as their number one attractive trait in men. It demonstrates virility without them having to be so crass as to admit things like "nice body" or "fat wallet,"

thanks for explaining, I still wouldn't call humor aggressive though. And can't you be funny without having a nice body or a fat wallet?

So,what...I lack testosterone? Is that it? Is that why I can't make a joke worth a damn?

Well, since the article was talking about aggression being channelled into humor, perhaps it has something to do with your aggression being channelled into posts like this one.

I've got two words for you: FUCK. YOU...
...you stupid fuckwad...

...Yes, that's right. I called you a fuckwad. Deal with it. You seem to be happy to tell others to do the same.

It's a bit like how firefighters can't use their hoses when people in the area turn on all the other hydrants.

thanks for explaining, I still wouldn't call humor aggressive though. And can't you be funny without having a nice body or a fat wallet?

Well Dane Cooke is boring as hell, and Jerry Seinfield got boring after becoming a billionaire. So apparently not.

Well, since the article was talking about aggression being channelled into humor, perhaps it has something to do with your aggression being channelled into posts like this one.



It's a bit like how firefighters can't use their hoses when people in the area turn on all the other hydrants.

Normally I don't make posts like that. It was a final loss of temper after years of New Mitanni bullshit.

In fact...I'm usually not that aggressive at all...

Normally I don't make posts like that. It was a final loss of temper after years of New Mitanni bullshit.

In fact...I'm usually not that aggressive at all...

Damn it I was going to sig that post and you up and changed it! :gundge:

Damn it I was going to sig that post and you up and changed it! :gundge:

Eh? I didn't change the post. Maybe a mod did.

The real article (http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/335/7633/1320)is quite interesting and entertaining, I have doubts if this should be taken very serious though.

It couldn't possibly be that men are socialised to be sneering jerks, and that as they get older, they realise that it's immature and pathetic?Meh, you just don't have enough testosterone to have a sense of humor.

It couldn't possibly be that men are socialised to be sneering jerks, and that as they get older, they realise that it's immature and pathetic?

No, it's totally testosterone and therefore out of their control. Poor men, helpless before the onslaught of genetically determined hormonal behaviour-moulding substances.

Eh? I didn't change the post. Maybe a mod did.

Yeah you seem to be getting a bit of a pass lately, swearing at other posters and such in a very flamey manner and not getting reported...having your flames moderated away...

Meh, you just don't have enough testosterone to have a sense of humor.

You could try a transfusion. I have an idea as to what the best method of attempting that might be. :D

You could try a transfusion. I have an idea as to what the best method of attempting that might be. :DI don't do blood fetishes.

I don't do blood fetishes.

Oh neither do I. I was thinking something else :P

Any attempt to study comedy or humour is at best incomplete. Usually they're so inaccurate they go full circle and become laughable themselves.

Oh neither do I. I was thinking something else :P

Well, accordin' to this thing:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/test_alter.gif
I should still have plenty to spare...:D

Yeah you seem to be getting a bit of a pass lately, swearing at other posters and such in a very flamey manner and not getting reported...having your flames moderated away...

Actually, it wasn't edited. I checked. I have no idea what he was talking about now.

Actually, it wasn't edited. I checked. I have no idea what he was talking about now.

Was talking about this: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13311270&postcount=33

Was talking about this: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13311270&postcount=33

woah, *backs away* i'm going to sleep now.

Normally I don't make posts like that. It was a final loss of temper after years of New Mitanni bullshit.

In fact...I'm usually not that aggressive at all...

Yeah. I know. I was looking to quote from a few but that was the only one I could find.

Conveniently it was up at the top.

I heard about this on the radio this morning. Not the unicycling part but about how humour is linked to testosterone. As for a uniccling doctor, awesome. I mean he could make a ton of housecalls.