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The big issue in Samoa

Ariddia
19-12-2007, 15:38
So what's the big issue in Samoa these days? The one that's been dominating the headlines for weeks and is the main headline of today's Samoa Observer?

No, you're way off the mark. It's not that at all. The big issue in Samoa is whether cars should drive on the left or on the right.

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Samoans demonstrate against government plans to make them drive on the right.


The protest against Government’s right hand drive (RHD) switch is not over with the handing to Parliament of their petition.

Convenor of the People Against Switching Sides (PASS) Toleafoa Solomona Toailoa told Members of Parliament at Ti’afau that the march and petition was the second step.

The first step was the public meeting several weeks ago, which resulted in a PASS committee being created, he said.

But he didn’t elaborate on what future action PASS will be taking to press their case.

The change Government wants to make will affect everybody, even the babies of this country, Toleafoa said.

Cheers went up from supporters when Toleafoa said legislation as important as the one being proposed required the leaders of a democracy to seek the view of the country.

One of the more popular banners carried by an estimated 12,000 marchers yesterday said “Na fesiligia au?” or “Was I asked?”

Toleafoa later told Samoa Observer, “It was the biggest march in our country since independence.”

On behalf of Parliament, Speaker Tolofuaivalelei Falemoe Leiataua, wanted Toleafoa to hand over the petition personally.

Toleafoa did, planting a kiss on the cheek of the Speaker and doing the same with the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister and the Minister of Justice and Courts Administration, Unasa Mesi, who were sitting nearby.

“There are over 33,000 signatures,” supporting their petition, Toleafoa said.
The forms containing the signatures were delivered to the Speaker in seven small boxes.
Also among the items delivered to the Speaker were CDs containing information which for MPs to view. He told the Speaker those were the signatures that they were able to gather at this time.

But there are numerous others that will be gathered and delivered later “to tell you and the Prime Minister and Government “what the country wanted.

Toleafoa directly asked Prime Minister Tuilaepa Lupesoli’ai Sa’ilele Malielegaoi to show love for the country.
“We too love you and your Government,” he said.

Tolofuaivalelei responded by saying the matter was clear and the Prime Minister, Cabinet and Parliament have heard what the protestors had to say.


(link (http://www.samoaobserver.ws/local/LNPages/1207/1807ln001.htm))

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In what was one of the largest rallies in Samoa's history, up to 7000 people marched on the Pacific nation's parliament in Apia, angry at government plans to make cars drive on the left.

Samoa, colonised by Germany and then New Zealand, currently has left hand drive cars that travel on the right.

But Samoan Prime Minister Tuilaepa Lupesoliai Sailele Malielegaoi has led a push to bring his country into line with Australia and New Zealand, meaning right-hand drive cars would gradually replace current models.

He believes it would mean cheaper cars being imported into Samoa and make it easier for Samoan expats living in Australia and New Zealand when they return home.

"Harmonising our laws with those of New Zealand and Australia will make our people better prepared for any better paid driving jobs like driving heavy-duty vehicles or machineries in those countries without having to undergo any more familiarisation training.

"Our relatives visiting from New Zealand and Australia will also benefit as they will not have to adjust to driving on the opposite side from that they are used to," Tuilaepa said in a recent speech.

Editor of the Samoa Observer newspaper, Mataafa Keni Lesa, said the leaders of today's march presented a petition to the parliament with nearly 40,000 signatures on it.

"They marched towards the parliament building even though it was raining. Everybody was wearing white and many wore T-shirts that said `say no to RHD'," he said.

There was a strong police presence but the march was peaceful, Lesa said.


(link (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4328777a12.html))

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Don't you just love a country where the only hugely controversial issue is what side of the road to drive on? :)
Extreme Ironing
19-12-2007, 15:45
Well, I should think the British would be out rallying if the government tried to change sides on this important issue as well, though it's nice to see a country with such few problems. :)
Nodinia
19-12-2007, 15:52
It would strike me that changing horses mid-gallop is a bad idea...
The Archregimancy
19-12-2007, 16:35
While we're portraying this as a quaint little issue in a Pacific elysium, I imagine that the proximity of American Samoa might make this slightly more complicated.

The arguments regarding economic opportunities in New Zealand and Australia are reasonably sound, but I wonder if there's not just the slightest whiff of giving the evil imperialists next door a minor poke. A bit like Chavez's decision to move Venezuela's time zone by half an hour.

Not that the evil imperialists will notice, mind.
Ariddia
19-12-2007, 16:42
While we're portraying this as a quaint little issue in a Pacific elysium, I imagine that the proximity of American Samoa might make this slightly more complicated.

The arguments regarding economic opportunities in New Zealand and Australia are reasonably sound, but I wonder if there's not just the slightest whiff of giving the evil imperialists next door a minor poke. A bit like Chavez's decision to move Venezuela's time zone by half an hour.

Not that the evil imperialists will notice, mind.

That's an interesting hypothesis... I must admit I haven't been keeping fully up to date on Samoan-American Samoan relations.
Slaughterhouse five
19-12-2007, 16:50
While we're portraying this as a quaint little issue in a Pacific elysium, I imagine that the proximity of American Samoa might make this slightly more complicated.

The arguments regarding economic opportunities in New Zealand and Australia are reasonably sound, but I wonder if there's not just the slightest whiff of giving the evil imperialists next door a minor poke. A bit like Chavez's decision to move Venezuela's time zone by half an hour.

Not that the evil imperialists will notice, mind.

LMAO the evil imperialist will make us all drive on the same side of the road they do. :eek:
Demented Hamsters
19-12-2007, 16:50
Don't you just love a country where the only hugely controversial issue is what side of the road to drive on? :)
When you live in a place like this:
http://www.samoa-resorts.com/samoa-resorts.jpg

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what else have you got to complain about but which side of the road to drive on?
Demented Hamsters
19-12-2007, 16:54
Not that the evil imperialists will notice, mind.
off-topic, but I was in China last two days on a school trip. We went to the Guangzhou museum of revolutionary heros and - I kid you not - there was the phrase "Imperialist America"
Also "Imperialist Japan" and "Imperialist Britain".
I didn't notice "Imperialist Samoa" but it was probably there, just in Chinese and not translated into English.
The Archregimancy
19-12-2007, 17:22
LMAO the evil imperialist will make us all drive on the same side of the road they do. :eek:

Yes, the evil imperialist are everywhere. [sic]


But for a more serious example of evil imperialists and the side of the road people drive on, see parts of central/eastern Europe before and after the arrival of Soviet hegemony.
Brutland and Norden
19-12-2007, 20:07
It seems that they had run out of stuff to debate on.
South Norfair
19-12-2007, 20:22
Why, it's a major issue! Before WWII a car ran over Churchill in New York because of the differences between the Brits and Yankees preferential driving side.


Now serious, if this was the major issue in my country, I'd have to scream BOOOOOOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGGGGG loud enough to the entire planet to hear.
Damor
19-12-2007, 20:24
Whatever they decide, people should drive on the right side of the road; if they drive on the wrong side, it'll just cause accidents.
Newer Burmecia
19-12-2007, 21:25
Now serious, if this was the major issue in my country, I'd have to scream BOOOOOOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGGGGG loud enough to the entire planet to hear.
That'd be nothing compared to what the reaction in the UK would be.
Kyronea
19-12-2007, 21:32
hat else have you got to complain about but which side of the road to drive on?

How about the fact that the climate really sucks?
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
19-12-2007, 22:43
what else have you got to complain about but which side of the road to drive on?

More than Margaret Mead would have you think, apparently. But still relatively little. :p
Risottia
19-12-2007, 23:37
So what's the big issue in Samoa these days? The one that's been dominating the headlines for weeks and is the main headline of today's Samoa Observer?

No, you're way off the mark. It's not that at all. The big issue in Samoa is whether cars should drive on the left or on the right.



It's probabily a typical island thing. Britons, Irish, Japanese, Samoans...
Call to power
19-12-2007, 23:40
think of the poor royals? won't anyone think of the poor royals!?

I suggest we send are Monarch over and see what they think about the change then ;)
Agolthia
19-12-2007, 23:53
Just for Clarification, is this large protest just about the road sides being changed or is there another underlying cause. It's just with the comments about the people having a right to choose and the goverment needing to listen to the people, it sounds like itmight also be about the way the goverment are ruling in general?
Evil Cantadia
20-12-2007, 11:02
LMAO the evil imperialist will make us all drive on the same side of the road they do. :eek:

They already did it to us ... twice. :) First the British Empire, then the American Empire.
Imperio Mexicano
20-12-2007, 16:49
What's the point of changing it? If they've been driving on one side of the road all this time, why switch to the other side? Sounds like a waste of time.
Ariddia
20-12-2007, 20:49
Just for Clarification, is this large protest just about the road sides being changed or is there another underlying cause. It's just with the comments about the people having a right to choose and the goverment needing to listen to the people, it sounds like itmight also be about the way the goverment are ruling in general?

No, it's just that one issue.

What's the point of changing it? If they've been driving on one side of the road all this time, why switch to the other side? Sounds like a waste of time.

I think the idea is to make imported cars cheaper. Although it seems a lot of people would prefer to pay more and continue driving on the same side of the road.
Imperio Mexicano
20-12-2007, 22:47
Have you been to Samoa, Ariddia? I know you've been to Fiji, and you seem to be very knowledgeable about the Pacific island countries.
Ariddia
21-12-2007, 01:50
Have you been to Samoa, Ariddia? I know you've been to Fiji, and you seem to be very knowledgeable about the Pacific island countries.

No, I haven't been to Samoa. I'd like to, some day. But it's a long way away, I'd need to take at least two (possibly three) connecting flights, so it would no doubt be horribly expensive... :(