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It turns out the SofS for Ohio says the election of 2004 could have easily been stolen and manipulated.

Discuss

I'm not running, just going to bed and I'll pick this up tomorrow. Night all.

Might want to source that statement. In any event, the possibility doesn't mean much - it's probably *possible* anyplace, and both parties fought pretty hard in Ohio.

Took me like 5 minutes to realize SofS means Secretary of State. If you don't have the time to make a legible post, don't make it.

Old news...Any rational person knows it was either stolen or manipulated, specifically in Ohio.

Took me like 5 minutes to realize SofS means Secretary of State.

Yeah, SoS is the abbreviation used more here, and since the SoS office serves as our DMV (we don't have a separate DMV) I see the abbreviation probably rather more than you do.

Well it's a bit late to be saying that. So I don't see what is so important about it now, apart from giving the Republicans a bad name.

Well the election could be declared retroactively invalid and Bush stripped of his second term in the records or history books could place an asterisk.

*This election was later found invalid...

It'd only be ceremonial, but better than nothing. Beyond that, crimanl proceedings for those involved.

Click Stand;13301724']Well it's a bit late to be saying that. So I don't see what is so important about it now, apart from giving the Republicans a bad name.

Assuming the tampering, if it happened at all, was done by Republicans. :rolleyes: I haven't seen any evidence of it, and the only arrests made were of Democrat volunteers, as I recall, who sabotaged a few GOP-owned vehicles on election morning, inconsequential as it was. :p

Does this mean the Supreme Court is going to equip the US Marshals with a fleet of Deloreans and send them back in time to January 2005 to prevent Bush from taking office?

Brunner wasn't even involved in the election process in 2004, except maybe tangentially as a member of the common pleas court. Aside from the fact that she's waited three years to state this fact and is conveniently a Democratic politician in a Democratic administration, I don't think she really has a case. This is politics designed to capitalize on the popularity of the Strickland administration and nothing more.

If there were real, pressing voting irregularities that cost Kerry the state of Ohio, they would have long since been discovered. That kind of irregularity would require over 2% of all votes case in Ohio to be tampered with, perhaps even more if you take in to account Democratic election irregularities.

Bush won in 2004 and he won handily. Trying to hold on to something for which there is no real case is nothing more than a vain attempt at scoring political points. If the Democrats want to avoid the return of another Decider to the White House, they need to stay away from this kind of stuff.

Brunner wasn't even involved in the election process in 2004, except maybe tangentially as a member of the common pleas court. Aside from the fact that she's waited three years to state this fact and is conveniently a Democratic politician in a Democratic administration, I don't think she really has a case. This is politics designed to capitalize on the popularity of the Strickland administration and nothing more.

If there were real, pressing voting irregularities that cost Kerry the state of Ohio, they would have long since been discovered. That kind of irregularity would require over 2% of all votes case in Ohio to be tampered with, perhaps even more if you take in to account Democratic election irregularities.

Bush won in 2004 and he won handily. Trying to hold on to something for which there is no real case is nothing more than a vain attempt at scoring political points. If the Democrats want to avoid the return of another Decider to the White House, they need to stay away from this kind of stuff.

The US won't have a fair election system until they scrub the electoral colleges.

The US won't have a fair election system until they scrub the electoral colleges.

Yeah, that's pretty much true..

Why is this crap being brought up again?

Why is this crap being brought up again?

Because people want more reasons to groan about President George III? Iraq, Katrina, et. al, simply aren't enough?:confused:

If there were real, pressing voting irregularities that cost Kerry the state of Ohio, they would have long since been discovered.
They WERE discovered, immediately. Nobody paid much attention, however.