NationStates Jolt Archive


Are YOU a racistist?

Psychedelic Munkeys
17-12-2007, 13:02
I have silently observed these forums in the last few months and have noticed just how racistist people here are. But its not just a proble here, racistists are all around us, working on the desk next to you, selling the Big Issue... Everywhere. The problem is, people find out that someone is a racist and automatically presume they are a bad, evil, twisted, despicable person.
Racistism is a serious problem, if you dont give a racist a chance to prove themselves how do you know what they are like? Stop your foolish prejudice against racists, and learn to love them. In the words of David Cameron, we should all Hug-a-Racist. Sure, he might hate Mohammed across the road. But aren't YOU just as bad for hating him for it? Stop this racistism, and make the World a better place for racists. Who knows, maybe if you spend some time with him, your local neighborhood racist.. Wont be so racist.. Anymore.

You -> :fluffle: <- Racist
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 13:03
And no. Skincolour is not something I discriminate on. Choices like religion, behaviour, lifestyle and so on are far more fun.
Laerod
17-12-2007, 13:05
But aren't YOU just as bad for hating him for it?Not really. Him hating someone for who they are isn't comparable to me hating him for what he chooses to be.
Newer Burmecia
17-12-2007, 13:07
I have silently observed these forums in the last few months and have noticed just how racistist people here are. But its not just a proble here, racistists are all around us, working on the desk next to you, selling the Big Issue... Everywhere. The problem is, people find out that someone is a racist and automatically presume they are a bad, evil, twisted, despicable person.
Racistism is a serious problem, if you dont give a racist a chance to prove themselves how do you know what they are like? Stop your foolish prejudice against racists, and learn to love them. In the words of David Cameron, we should all Hug-a-Racist. Sure, he might hate Mohammed across the road. But aren't YOU just as bad for hating him for it? Stop this racistism, and make the World a better place for racists. Who knows, maybe if you spend some time with him, your local neighborhood racist.. Wont be so racist.. Anymore.

You -> :fluffle: <- Racist
So, it's racist not to like racists. I see.
Newer Burmecia
17-12-2007, 13:10
No.... Its racistist. Tsk tsk, prime example here.
Of what, exactly?

EDIT: Mega time warp.
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 13:10
No.... Its racistist. Tsk tsk, prime example here.

Ack. I am an idiot ;)
But the second sentence in my answer still stands. Discriminating against people for the choices they make is fine.
Psychedelic Munkeys
17-12-2007, 13:10
So, it's racist not to like racists. I see.

No.... Its racistist. Tsk tsk, prime example here.
Eureka Australis
17-12-2007, 13:13
I say a prompt declaration of war on unnecessary '-ism' and '-ist's would be appropriate.
Crystalseraph
17-12-2007, 13:13
I am a proud racistist. We like to run run places.

Racism, on the other hand...;)
Keriona
17-12-2007, 13:14
Kill them all, and let the maggots sort them out ....that's what the voices in my head say.
Cabra West
17-12-2007, 13:17
Nope. I couldn't care less about race.
I personally like to differenciate between people based on their ideas and actions.
Sarejavo
17-12-2007, 13:25
couldn't care less about races or racists

or racistists
Cryptic Nightmare
17-12-2007, 13:28
Racistist? Yes
Racist? No
Laerod
17-12-2007, 13:32
No.... Its racistist. Tsk tsk, prime example here.No its not. Racists don't constitute an ethnic group.
Psychedelic Munkeys
17-12-2007, 13:56
Racistist? Yes
Racist? No

Really? Its become a bit of a taboo lately, make sure you dont tell anyone of your radical views.

No its not. Racists don't constitute an ethnic group.

Erm... Yes it is. Racistism is a prejudice of racists, not races. Races are not of importance to racistism, simply the poor, misunderstood people who prejudice against them.
Laerod
17-12-2007, 13:57
Erm... Yes it is. Racistism is a prejudice of racists, not races. Races are not of importance to racistism, simply the poor, misunderstood people who prejudice against them.The fuck are you talking about?
Uturn
17-12-2007, 14:07
I like to think I'm an equal opportunity racist.
:p

Seriously though, I don't believe in race.
Even when I'm pissed off with someone I'm more likely to call/think of them as a fuckwit/idiot/waste of oxygen/etc before I get into kaffer/dutchman/coloured/rooineck/whatever vocabulary.
Joking with my friends on the other hand... well, language is colourful in many aspects, including race.
Psychedelic Munkeys
17-12-2007, 14:16
Seriously though, I don't believe in race.

How so? You see, I think that when two white people have a child, that child will be white, and when two black people have a child, that child will be black. I think thats how it works right? Well - thats races right there for ya.
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 14:19
How so? You see, I think that when two white people have a child, that child will be white, and when two black people have a child, that child will be black. I think thats how it works right? Well - thats races right there for ya.

And if a whitey gets a child with a blacky you get.... ?
And if that kid gets a child with another "mixbreed" you get... ?
And voila. In a few generations you would have thousands, if not millions, of "races".
Kryozerkia
17-12-2007, 14:21
I prefer to irrationally hate people on the basis of one of three conditions:
1) they are Sens fans
2) they chose to live in Ottawa
3) both of the above

:p :) ;)
Pyreleo
17-12-2007, 14:22
It amazes me how many people didn't pay enough attention to realize what you actually said...
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 14:27
It amazes me how many people didn't pay enough attention to realize what you actually said...

Shush. I am still embarrassed.
Cabra West
17-12-2007, 14:31
Erm... Yes it is. Racistism is a prejudice of racists, not races. Races are not of importance to racistism, simply the poor, misunderstood people who prejudice against them.

A prejudice is an uniformed assumption about someone based on elements that have nothing at all to do with the subject of the assumption.
"Black people like watermelons" would be a prejudice. "Asians are lazy" would be a prejudice.
"Racists are promoting a dangerous and destructive mindset" is neither uninformed, nor is the subject independent of the assumption. Therefore, saying that one doesn't agree with racits is not a prejudice.
Barringtonia
17-12-2007, 14:38
I'm actually a racististist.

I spend a lot of time among racists trying to help them gain equal opportunities.

Some people think that being racist is a choice and, although in some sense one could decide to not be a racist, it's often a result of poor upbringing and education influencing the ability to even think you have a choice about being racist.

So don't hate the haterz, try and help them and always remember...

There's no 'I' in Jesus, there's only 'us'
Laerod
17-12-2007, 14:42
It amazes me how many people didn't pay enough attention to realize what you actually said...If he'd made a bigger point to ensure that we knew he was creating a new word as opposed to misspelling an existing one, perhaps there would be less confusion.
Smunkeeville
17-12-2007, 14:43
I'll own up to having some stereotype issues.....mostly they don't affect much. I don't really judge people on them, but I think some stereotype ideas are embedded in my brain.
Risottia
17-12-2007, 14:48
Racistism is a serious problem, if you dont give a racist a chance to prove themselves how do you know what they are like? Stop your foolish prejudice against racists, and learn to love them.

1.It's racism, not racistism.

2.I have no prejudice about racists. I know what racism has produced throughout the ages (from massacre of the pre-colombian americans to nazi gas chambers to balkanian ethnical cleansing). Also I know that racism has no scientifical value at all.

3.While xenophobia is a human instinct that can be controlled, racism is just an excuse to justify the exploitation of humans. Hence, I reject it.

Fuck racism.
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 14:49
1.It's racism, not racistism.

No, the OP used racistism for a reason.
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 14:50
The fuck are you talking about?

Racistism obviously. Funny thing though, I can't find that word in any dictionary!
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 14:53
How so? You see, I think that when two white people have a child, that child will be white, and when two black people have a child, that child will be black. I think thats how it works right? Well - thats races right there for ya.

Well not really, I mean there is only one human race. You can tell that we are all the same race, as often you see children being born from different colored parents.

Taking your example, then if a black retriever dog, and a golden retriever dog mates, are they, as well as the offspring all of different races?
Hinatakawa
17-12-2007, 14:54
Alright, I have to honestly say I am a little "Racist" by some standards. If there is a Boot-Lipped black guy saying "nigguh" every other word REALY LOUDLY on a CELL PHONE, then I hate them...
If I see a kind black guy, WITHOUT his pants hanging down to his ankles, a shirt 345461364756465496 sizes too big, that kind of stuff, then he's alright by me!

Plus I just plain like racial Humor ;)
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 14:56
I'm actually a racististist.

I spend a lot of time among racists trying to help them gain equal opportunities.

Some people think that being racist is a choice and, although in some sense one could decide to not be a racist, it's often a result of poor upbringing and education influencing the ability to even think you have a choice about being racist.

So don't hate the haterz, try and help them and always remember...

There's no 'I' in Jesus, there's only 'us'

Unless of course you pronounce it Jizus!
Laerod
17-12-2007, 14:56
Racistism obviously. Funny thing though, I can't find that word in any dictionary!Yeah, I noticed. I still disagree with him/her on my assessment that discriminating against people for how they act is better than discriminating against people for what they look like.
Risottia
17-12-2007, 14:56
No, the OP used racistism for a reason.

I'm not graduated in psychiatry so I won't try and investigate that reason.
Anyway, the noun "racistism" doesn't exist in the english language, nor does its possible translation exist in any other indoeuropean language.
Also, as a neologism, it carries no meaning at all.
Ifreann
17-12-2007, 14:56
I say a prompt declaration of war on unnecessary '-ism' and '-ist's would be appropriate.

Yes, yes, oh please god yes!
Hinatakawa
17-12-2007, 14:57
I'm actually a racististist.

I spend a lot of time among racists trying to help them gain equal opportunities.

Some people think that being racist is a choice and, although in some sense one could decide to not be a racist, it's often a result of poor upbringing and education influencing the ability to even think you have a choice about being racist.

So don't hate the haterz, try and help them and always remember...

There's no 'I' in Jesus, there's only 'us'

*raises hand* What if we're Athiest?
Ifreann
17-12-2007, 14:58
*raises hand* What if we're Athiest?

Do atheists spell 'Jesus' differently or something?
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 14:59
Yeah, I noticed. I still disagree with him/her on my assessment that discriminating against people for how they act is better than discriminating against people for what they look like.

Heh yeah it's a fine line. Could I be called consevatistist , for my loud stance against conservatism?

I guess in the OP's world view I could and whats more I should!
Hinatakawa
17-12-2007, 14:59
Do atheists spell 'Jesus' differently or something?

We spell Jesus as "Don't Beleive in"
Barringtonia
17-12-2007, 14:59
*raises hand* What if we're Athiest?

Yes, there's certainly 'I' in atheist you selfish ungodly bastards!

Given atheists have no basis for love and compassion, they can hardly be racist as they probably hate everyone equally.
Hinatakawa
17-12-2007, 15:03
Yes, there's certainly 'I' in atheist you selfish ungodly bastards!

Given atheists have no basis for love and compassion, they can hardly be racist as they probably hate everyone equally.

HEY I am Athiest and still have love man. Now that's being Religist!
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 15:04
Given atheists have no basis for love and compassion

You mean "do not need to be threatened with throttling by a supreme being to show love and compassion" I assume ;) ?

So shall we spell Jesus as Yes-us! and get back ontopic ?
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 15:04
Yes, yes, oh please god yes!

Yes a war on Race-ist's and Race-ism!
Ifreann
17-12-2007, 15:05
We spell Jesus as "Don't Beleive in"

I sure don't. That'd make no sense at all. "I don't believe that Don't Beleive[sic] in was the son of God". Ridiculous.
Barringtonia
17-12-2007, 15:07
You mean "do not need to be threatened with throttling by a supreme being to show love and compassion" I assume ;) ?

So shall we spell Jesus as Yes-us! and get back ontopic ?

Wait, there's a topic?
Ifreann
17-12-2007, 15:11
HEY I am Athiest and still have love man. Now that's being Religist!

Atheism isn't a religion.


I tihnk this spam is actually improving a thread based on a poor OP.
Barringtonia
17-12-2007, 15:11
Atheism isn't a religion.


I tihnk this spam is actually improving a thread based on a poor OP.

He didn't say religionist, he said religist and he's right.

I hate those religs :mp5:
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 15:16
Wait, there's a topic?

More of a moral of the day:

"Hug your neighbour - even if he is a racist pig. Maybe you can cure him."
Psychedelic Munkeys
17-12-2007, 15:17
Racistism obviously. Funny thing though, I can't find that word in any dictionary!

Yeah same, weird that. Then again, I didn't find 'pwnage' in there either. Yet they have words like 'Quran' in the Dictionary.. WTF does that mean?
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 15:19
Yeah same, weird that. Then again, I didn't find 'pwnage' in there either. Yet they have words like 'Quran' in the Dictionary.. WTF does that mean?

At a guess I'd say that words that are not in the dictionary then are not yet part of the 'official' language.

As to Pwnage, I really have no idea what it means, perhaps including it in a dictionary would make it clear, and the Quran, is a well known Holy book.
Ifreann
17-12-2007, 15:22
Yeah same, weird that. Then again, I didn't find 'pwnage' in there either. Yet they have words like 'Quran' in the Dictionary.. WTF does that mean?

You saw the word in the dictionary, yet don't know what it means? Couldn't you have just read the definition?
Risottia
17-12-2007, 15:24
He didn't say religionist, he said religist and he's right.

I hate those religs :mp5:

I'm a theistist.
Barringtonia
17-12-2007, 15:29
I'm a theistist.

I thought you were Italian.
Laerod
17-12-2007, 15:30
I thought you were Italian.Theistism and Italianism are not mutually exclusive.
Cabra West
17-12-2007, 15:31
More of a moral of the day:

"Hug your neighbour - even if he is a racist pig. Maybe you can cure him."

Mmmmmmmmmmm... cured pig....
Risottia
17-12-2007, 15:32
I thought you were Italian.

Theistism and Italianism are not mutually exclusive.

Yep, don't ye be Italianistists.
Barringtonia
17-12-2007, 15:33
Theistism and Italianism are not mutually exclusive.

I like how this board allows you to write in Italian
Ifreann
17-12-2007, 15:33
My eyes are bleeding from the huge overuse of the -ist suffix.
Barringtonia
17-12-2007, 15:33
Mmmmmmmmmmm... cured pig....

I was trying to link those as well but you beat me to it.
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 15:34
My eyes are bleeding from the huge overuse of the -ist suffix.

Say you're not Suffixist are you?
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 15:34
Mmmmmmmmmmm... cured pig....

They are even Halal ;)
Risottia
17-12-2007, 15:35
My eyes are bleeding from the huge overuse of the -ist suffix.

Don't hate the "-ist" suffix, lest thou be blamed as "-ist"istist.
Risottia
17-12-2007, 15:35
I like how this board allows you to write in Italian

Funny, we call this "corsivo".
Laerod
17-12-2007, 15:36
My eyes are bleeding from the huge overuse of the -ist suffix.My work here is done :cool:
Laerod
17-12-2007, 15:37
Funny, we call this "corsivo".Don't be silly. Everyone knows that cursive is foul language.
Ifreann
17-12-2007, 15:38
Don't hate the "-ist" suffix, lest thou be blamed as "-ist"istist.

All I see is blood! Oh god!
Risottia
17-12-2007, 15:43
Don't be silly. Everyone knows that cursive is foul language.

Oh you cursivistist. Take this!
Barringtonia
17-12-2007, 15:49
Oh you cursivistist. Take this!

Thinking about the time it took you to do this resembles my thoughts on meeting a racist.

Why do you bother :)
Risottia
17-12-2007, 15:53
Thinking about the time it took you to do this resembles my thoughts on meeting a racist.

Why do you bother :)

Nevermind, I'm a wiz with CTRL-I.
Barringtonia
17-12-2007, 15:54
Nevermind, I'm a wiz with CTRL-I.

Ah, I've learned something..... dammit, something that doesn't seem to work on Mac :(
[NS]Khaban
17-12-2007, 16:04
How so? You see, I think that when two white people have a child, that child will be white, and when two black people have a child, that child will be black. I think thats how it works right? Well - thats races right there for ya.

No, because white, black, yellow, ... people can breed and make fertile children, which means they are all from one race. Because biology laws state that if two individuals can breed and make fertile children, they are from the same race.
Ifreann
17-12-2007, 16:44
Khaban;13299795']No, because white, black, yellow, ... people can breed and make fertile children, which means they are all from one race. Because biology laws state that if two individuals can breed and make fertile children, they are from the same race.

False. If two animals can mate and produce viable offspring they are of the same species. Race is a social construct, not a biological one.
Nova Magna Germania
17-12-2007, 16:48
No its not. Racists don't constitute an ethnic group.

Racistist =/= racist.
Nova Magna Germania
17-12-2007, 16:56
Khaban;13299795']No, because white, black, yellow, ... people can breed and make fertile children, which means they are all from one race. Because biology laws state that if two individuals can breed and make fertile children, they are from the same race.

Your talking about species.
Laerod
17-12-2007, 17:02
Racistist =/= racist.This is the reason why people should read the whole thread before posting.
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 17:08
Your talking about species.

Correct.
So what *is* race ?
Dacogetia
17-12-2007, 17:09
Whoa, of course I am, I love F1 racing, and all other types, I also like to bet at horse races, 'racistism' is cool. :cool:
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 17:09
Your talking about species.

'You're talking.....' Perhaps?
Laerod
17-12-2007, 17:12
'You're talking.....' Perhaps?Take your spellism and shove it where the snu don't shine :D
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 17:13
Take your spellism and shove it where the snu don't shine :D

Isn't that near Lancre ?
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 17:14
Take your spellism and shove it where the snu don't shine :D

Sorry sorry can't help myself. It's like a hobby, I mean I love nowt better than showing up our racist brethren for the unthinking brutes they are.:eek:
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 17:15
Isn't that near Lancre ?

*sigh* It is pronounced Lancreshire!:D
Dacogetia
17-12-2007, 17:22
Seriously though, yes, I generally despise people who discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion. But I don't think we should exclude them from society. They need to learn to love before they can really hate. Some do know and others don't; both groups are flagged as 'racist', but... I only despise who can't love, who aren't open; the second group won't do any harm.
SysTemP
17-12-2007, 17:29
racistist - (noun) one who participates in the collecting of racists. i.e. The racistist's collection was the envy of the Nation States community.
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 17:33
Seriously though, yes, I generally despise people who discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion. But I don't think we should exclude them from society. They need to learn to love before they can really hate. Some do know and others don't; both groups are flagged as 'racist', but... I only despise who can't love, who aren't open; the second group won't do any harm.

Heh just to let you know the word used was racistist, meaning(apparently) those who hold hatred for racists.

Basicly the OP is having a whinge coz him and his ilke get a hard time.
Psychedelic Munkeys
17-12-2007, 17:51
I'm a theistist.

Dont even get me started on theistests..
Glorious Freedonia
17-12-2007, 18:26
The OP is correct we should not dislike someone based on their beliefs. We should like or dislike someone based on their actions. It is fine to be racist, liberal, jewish, or someone who thinks that trashy romance novels are good reads.

If we are truly open-minded we should be accepting of people of all beliefs. We do not need to be accepting of vile actions though.
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 18:40
Seriously though, yes, I generally despise people who discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion.

What exactly is wrong with discriminating on the basis of religion ? It is a choice. Choices have consequences.
Tel Agarak
17-12-2007, 18:50
I love being racist, but u no who the most racist people in this world are? Those stupid brown indians thats who.
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 18:51
The OP is correct we should not dislike someone based on their beliefs. We should like or dislike someone based on their actions. It is fine to be racist, liberal, jewish, or someone who thinks that trashy romance novels are good reads.

If we are truly open-minded we should be accepting of people of all beliefs. We do not need to be accepting of vile actions though.

Why? Why can't we ridicule those who hold opposing beliefs, why should we accept them even? Sure I'll not bar their way to having such beliefs, but why can't I treat them with disrespect, if I want to?

Why should we accept vile beliefs, and not accept vile actions? Does that not strike you as just a little bit hypocritical?
Peepelonia
17-12-2007, 18:52
I love being racist, but u no who the most racist people in this world are? Those stupid brown indians thats who.

Run, run, away now, lest the grammar Nazi's catch you.
Psychedelic Munkeys
17-12-2007, 19:02
Yup, the racistist grammar Nazi's.
Questers
17-12-2007, 19:04
By any modern standard, I suppose I am...
Glorious Freedonia
17-12-2007, 19:51
Why? Why can't we ridicule those who hold opposing beliefs, why should we accept them even? Sure I'll not bar their way to having such beliefs, but why can't I treat them with disrespect, if I want to?

Why should we accept vile beliefs, and not accept vile actions? Does that not strike you as just a little bit hypocritical?

No, this does not seem hypocritical at all. I am sure that there are things that you believe in that others find bizarre. It is still no reason for you to be picked on by anybody.

I guarantee you that whatever your religious beliefs, someone will think that you have some pretty nutty religious beliefs. For example, atheists and theists think the other position is strange.

We should associate with people who share our same interests regardless of their beliefs. Can you have an atheistic golf buddy? Could you have a Catholic barber? Could you have a socialist running partner? What does it matter to you what some one's beliefs are? How is it in any way your business? In fact, are not we all a little enriched by interracting with diverse people?

Furthermore, I think it is disgraceful to be disrespectful of anyone's personal beliefs. You can and should disagree but you should not be disagreeable. I also do not think that anybody's beliefs are "vile". Someone's actions may be vile or someone's personality but not their beliefs.
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 20:01
No, this does not seem hypocritical at all. I am sure that there are things that you believe in that others find bizarre. It is still no reason for you to be picked on by anybody.

Again: *why* not. What is the benefit of respecting every belief, no matter how silly ?
Being willing to listen - sure, I see that. Something that seems silly can in fact be quite deep.
Being willing to critically examine your own beliefs and if needed change them - definitely.
Being willing to debate anything - of course.

But actually respecting the beliefs of others, even after you have listened, and thought about it and still consider them the most repugnant type of filth ever thought up ? Why should one do that ?

Convince me ;)
Creepy Lurker
17-12-2007, 20:14
Does anyone want to sign my petition banning DiHydrogenMonOxide?
Pea-tear Griffin
17-12-2007, 20:17
what are talking about

KILL THOSE RACISTS :sniper:
Tagmatium
17-12-2007, 20:19
Could you have a Catholic barber?
I can't say I really discuss religious beliefs with my barber. Even if I did, I would always remember that its he who has the straight razor to my throat.
Glorious Freedonia
17-12-2007, 20:19
Does anyone want to sign my petition banning DiHydrogenMonOxide?

Umm I think we would be a rather thirsty bunch if we did, sport.
Glorious Freedonia
17-12-2007, 20:22
Again: *why* not. What is the benefit of respecting every belief, no matter how silly ?
Being willing to listen - sure, I see that. Something that seems silly can in fact be quite deep.
Being willing to critically examine your own beliefs and if needed change them - definitely.
Being willing to debate anything - of course.

But actually respecting the beliefs of others, even after you have listened, and thought about it and still consider them the most repugnant type of filth ever thought up ? Why should one do that ?

Convince me ;)

Ok, it is not all that complicated. Disagree with people but still be nice and get along. It is kind of a get along with others that are different from you kind of thing.
The Alma Mater
17-12-2007, 20:23
Ok, it is not all that complicated. Disagree with people but still be nice and get along. It is kind of a get along with others that are different from you kind of thing.

You are dodging the question. I am not arguing in favour of killing or molesting those who disagree with me but asking why I should respect their beliefs even if they are repugnant to me.

To me it seems your definition of "respect" is hollow and worthless.
Isidoor
17-12-2007, 20:27
I also do not think that anybody's beliefs are "vile". Someone's actions may be vile or someone's personality but not their beliefs.

So believing that a group of people deserves to be killed because they have a slightly different phenotype is fine in your opinion? but ridiculing it would be bad?
Glorious Freedonia
18-12-2007, 02:01
You are dodging the question. I am not arguing in favour of killing or molesting those who disagree with me but asking why I should respect their beliefs even if they are repugnant to me.

To me it seems your definition of "respect" is hollow and worthless.

Ok perhaps this is a better answer. Since none of us are the omniscient knowers of absolue truth. We should all, no matter how confident we are that we are right, recognize that we might not be, and that someone else might be.

Because of that recognition, we should be able to respect others of any diverging viewpoint. It also has the plus of making us more humble which makes us nicer people.
Yootopia
18-12-2007, 02:06
I'm anti-moron in general, really.
Glorious Freedonia
18-12-2007, 02:08
So believing that a group of people deserves to be killed because they have a slightly different phenotype is fine in your opinion? but ridiculing it would be bad?

Ridiculing the believer is bad. Ridiculing the idea is good.
Vittos the City Sacker
18-12-2007, 03:33
I don't distinguish between racists, I hate them all.
Kunyaga
18-12-2007, 03:55
honestly:

racist - somewhat
raciscist - nope

Now, let me qualify that. I am a racist in that I'll never marry a black man, a chinese man, an arab man, etc. simply because I'm not attracted to them. Is it racist if my "type" is not overly tall, muscular, dark-haired white men?? Does that make me sexist because I don't like women?? Am I discriminating against the over 5'10" crowd because I can't bear to strain my neck?

I think there are good and bad people, and it has nothing to do with the colour they are. I cross the street when I see a black man wearing pants 15 sizes too large with the crotch around his knees, a hoodie, and a ballcap on backwards because I'm afraid that he's a drug dealer. Does that make me a racist? Or does that make me a woman who takes care of herself by not getting into dangerous situations?

Because I've been told by others that I'm a racist, I don't feel that it's right for me to be a racistist. After all, who says they don't have good reasons for what they fall.

And, the bottom line is: Nobody can tell you what you can and cannot think. However, they can tell you what you can and cannot do about it!
Ohshucksiforgotourname
18-12-2007, 04:15
My eyes are bleeding from the huge overuse of the -ist suffix.

Ditto here. There are simply way too many "isms" and "ists" nowadays, and too much hypersensitivity. It's getting ridiculous.
Ohshucksiforgotourname
18-12-2007, 04:21
Now, let me qualify that. I am a racist in that I'll never marry a black man, a chinese man, an arab man, etc. simply because I'm not attracted to them. Is it racist if my "type" is not overly tall, muscular, dark-haired white men?? Does that make me sexist because I don't like women?? Am I discriminating against the over 5'10" crowd because I can't bear to strain my neck?

Nope. Nothing racist or sexist or discriminatory there as far as I'm concerned, but then again, I'm a white male.

I think there are good and bad people, and it has nothing to do with the colour they are. I cross the street when I see a black man wearing pants 15 sizes too large with the crotch around his knees, a hoodie, and a ballcap on backwards because I'm afraid that he's a drug dealer. Does that make me a racist? Or does that make me a woman who takes care of herself by not getting into dangerous situations?

It makes you the second one, i.e. a woman who takes care of herself by not getting into dangerous situations. There's nothing racist about that. It's people who dress like what you described, and not you, that have the problem. They just simply need to PULL THEIR (insert your own ALL CAPS cuss word here) PANTS UP! Regardless of their race or skin color or ethnicity!

Nobody can tell you what you can and cannot think.

QFT.

However, they can tell you what you can and cannot do about it!

Also QFT.
Nosorepazzau
18-12-2007, 04:25
I don't distinguish between racists, I hate them all.

I totally agree with this!
Posi
18-12-2007, 06:59
I prefer to irrationally hate people on the basis of one of three conditions:
1) they are Sens fans
2) they chose to live in Ottawa
3) both of the above

:p :) ;)I remember that. You where happy that the enemy won the cup. I suppose you also wish that the Nazis won WW2.
The Pazhujeb Islands
18-12-2007, 07:07
this topic is racististist
Gun Manufacturers
18-12-2007, 07:11
I have silently observed these forums in the last few months and have noticed just how racistist people here are. But its not just a proble here, racistists are all around us, working on the desk next to you, selling the Big Issue... Everywhere. The problem is, people find out that someone is a racist and automatically presume they are a bad, evil, twisted, despicable person.
Racistism is a serious problem, if you dont give a racist a chance to prove themselves how do you know what they are like? Stop your foolish prejudice against racists, and learn to love them. In the words of David Cameron, we should all Hug-a-Racist. Sure, he might hate Mohammed across the road. But aren't YOU just as bad for hating him for it? Stop this racistism, and make the World a better place for racists. Who knows, maybe if you spend some time with him, your local neighborhood racist.. Wont be so racist.. Anymore.

You -> :fluffle: <- Racist

Um, what is a racistist, and what is racistism?
Psychedelic Munkeys
18-12-2007, 10:42
this topic is racististist

I started this thread to raise the issue of racistism, and hopefully change some views. So actually, this thread is anti-racistist, although with the oh so horrible prejudice of some posters here, it has turned somewhat pro-racistist, unfortunately.:rolleyes:
Ifreann
18-12-2007, 11:16
Ditto here. There are simply way too many "isms" and "ists" nowadays, and too much hypersensitivity. It's getting ridiculous.
I don't see what hypersensitivity has to do with is. It's mainly making up useless terms because of the connotations associated with them. Islamist, for example, is a cheap attempt to associate Islam with terrorism. Evolutionist is an attempt to make it seem like 'believing' in evolution is about the same as believing in creation or ID.
I started this thread to raise the issue of racistism, and hopefully change some views. So actually, this thread is anti-racistist, although with the oh so horrible prejudice of some posters here, it has turned somewhat pro-racistist, unfortunately.:rolleyes:

We're not prejudiced. We've judged racists fairly and found that we very much do not like what they think.
Peepelonia
18-12-2007, 12:39
No, this does not seem hypocritical at all. I am sure that there are things that you believe in that others find bizarre. It is still no reason for you to be picked on by anybody.

I guarantee you that whatever your religious beliefs, someone will think that you have some pretty nutty religious beliefs. For example, atheists and theists think the other position is strange.

We should associate with people who share our same interests regardless of their beliefs. Can you have an atheistic golf buddy? Could you have a Catholic barber? Could you have a socialist running partner? What does it matter to you what some one's beliefs are? How is it in any way your business? In fact, are not we all a little enriched by interracting with diverse people?

Furthermore, I think it is disgraceful to be disrespectful of anyone's personal beliefs. You can and should disagree but you should not be disagreeable. I also do not think that anybody's beliefs are "vile". Someone's actions may be vile or someone's personality but not their beliefs.

Then we disagree, and I preserve the right to be disrespectful to you on the merits (or not) of any disagreements we have.

I can of course choose to temper my words and actions towards those diametrically opposed to my beliefs or life's choices, but that again is a choice freely made by me. Why should I be denied this choice?

If I encounter somebody who shows me a lack of respect because of my beliefs then why should I not be able to counter in kind?

Amongst the highest of my beliefs in that each individual has the right to live as they will, to choose the life they want to lead. If others disagree with me, I don't mind being shouted at, and sometimes I choose to do the same, and sometimes I choose to let it go, and walk away.
Peepelonia
18-12-2007, 12:47
I started this thread to raise the issue of racistism, and hopefully change some views. So actually, this thread is anti-racistist, although with the oh so horrible prejudice of some posters here, it has turned somewhat pro-racistist, unfortunately.:rolleyes:

Prejudice, is inherent within the human beast, and yourself and GF have got it totally wrong with your calls to 'be nice to everybody'.

In fact if we don't speak out in anger at those with warped ideas, then we make it worst for ourselves. Not only on a personal mental health level, but for humanity as a whole.
Psychedelic Munkeys
18-12-2007, 13:09
In fact if we don't speak out in anger at those with warped ideas, then we make it worst for ourselves. Not only on a personal mental health level, but for humanity as a whole.

Those are the words of a racistist... You better watch out when expressing such views, many anti-racistist (racististists?) people might take it the wrong way especially when what you say refers to them..
Peepelonia
18-12-2007, 13:19
Those are the words of a racistist... You better watch out when expressing such views, many anti-racistist (racististists?) people might take it the wrong way especially when what you say refers to them..

That again is inherent to the human beast. That we can all use the same rhetoric to support our stances, and that words can and will be misconstrued. *shrug*

However I have been her for umm three? years now posting every weekday, the people here by now know what my stance is on many issues, as well as my little foibles.:p
Bottle
18-12-2007, 13:39
I have little respect and less patience for people who claim to care deeply about a subject and yet cannot be bothered to educate themselves about it.

I've met many racists in my lifetime, and every last one of them fit into that category.