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What is the best coutry in the world?

Tornar
15-12-2007, 23:15
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.
Kontor
15-12-2007, 23:16
No country is the "best" there are to many factors for that, fail.

Just for this thread, ILLEGAL ALIENS, are you ahppy at what you caused me to do?
GodsAmerica
15-12-2007, 23:18
America is the best country in the world. All of Europe has fallen into godless decadence.

Though Israel comes close behind, because it is the historic home of God's people, who received the Old Covenant and foretold the coming of our Savior, Lord Jesus Christ.
Fassitude
15-12-2007, 23:19
Culture: France
Government style: Sweden
Treatment of racial groups: No idea.
Size: Stupid criterion.
Wars fought: Idiotic criterion.
History: China.

Tada.
Neu Leonstein
15-12-2007, 23:21
I tend to think of countries in terms of "I would live there", "I would go there" and "I would stay away from there". I don't get any more specific than that.

I'm not gonna sort the countries of the world into categories now, but I think my criteria are fairly obvious - I like competent and transparent government, low taxes, openness to the world and a liberal society, and so I rank countries accordingly.
Nouvelle Wallonochie
15-12-2007, 23:21
Size: Stupid criterion.
Wars fought: Idiotic criterion.

I can't agree more.
Intestinal fluids
15-12-2007, 23:22
Nigeria. Everyone there knows someone with $150,000,000 in a bank account with withdrawl problems and a poor grasp of English.
Tornar
15-12-2007, 23:23
Culture: France
Government style: Sweden
Treatment of racial groups: No idea.
Size: Stupid criterion.
Wars fought: Idiotic criterion.
History: China.

Tada.

I know the're stupid, but some people care and I don't know why.
Kontor
15-12-2007, 23:23
Culture: France
Government style: Sweden
Treatment of racial groups: No idea.
Size: Stupid criterion.
Wars fought: Idiotic criterion.
History: China.

Tada.

Fail.
Laerod
15-12-2007, 23:38
Countries have their perks and downsides. The US has plenty things that suck about it just like most European countries.
Quagpit
15-12-2007, 23:45
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.

Is many wars indicative of a good country or a bad country? :confused:
Tornar
15-12-2007, 23:46
I'm happy! not too many patriots out there!;)
Tornar
15-12-2007, 23:47
Is many wars indicative of a good country or a bad country? :confused:
Personally, I think the less wars the better.
Kontor
15-12-2007, 23:49
Personally, I think the less wars the better.

For the most part.
Kryozerkia
15-12-2007, 23:49
Culture: Netherlands
Government style: Netherlands
Treatment of racial groups: Canada
Size: Canada
Wars fought: ...
History: Greece
Kontor
15-12-2007, 23:49
Culture: Netherlands
Government style: Netherlands
Treatment of racial groups: Canada
Size: Canada
Wars fought: ...
History: Greece

We have a patriot! You know thats bad right? Everyone and everything is equal, nothing is better than anything or anyone else.
Mythotic Kelkia
15-12-2007, 23:53
Culture: India
Treatment of racial groups: India
History: India
The Parkus Empire
15-12-2007, 23:53
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.

Culture: France
Government style: France
Treatment of racial groups: France
Size: France
Wars fought: France
History: France

France.
Kontor
15-12-2007, 23:54
Culture: France
Government style: France
Treatment of racial groups: France
Size: France
Wars fought: France
History: France

France.

Another patriot? Who keeps breeding you right wing nut-jobs?
Kryozerkia
15-12-2007, 23:55
We have a patriot! You know thats bad right? Everyone and everything is equal, nothing is better than anything or anyone else.

Uhm... how exactly am I a patriot? I hate the government of my nation because it's not run by the NDP, and according to some Americans, a patriot is someone who doesn't question the government. I want the troops brought home and I support total gun control.

So? How am I a patriot if I like a nation other than my own for certain things? And I mean, size, c'mon, size is superficial.
Kontor
15-12-2007, 23:56
Uhm... how exactly am I a patriot? I hate the government of my nation because it's not run by the NDP, and according to some Americans, a patriot is someone who doesn't question the government. I want the troops brought home and I support total gun control.

So? How am I a patriot if I like a nation other than my own for certain things? And I mean, size, c'mon, size is superficial.

It's just like you radical right-wingers to defend your rabid racism by calling it patriotism and then denying it.
Deus Malum
15-12-2007, 23:57
Culture: India
Treatment of racial groups: India
History: India

Oh come on. You don't honestly believe that, do you? I mean, I'm Indian and even I don't believe that.
Plotadonia
15-12-2007, 23:58
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.

Culture: The United States
Government style: Singapore
Treatment of Racial Groups: Not sure, maybe Canada
Size: China
Wars Fought: The United States
History: Isreal

I'm going to add four:

Technological Achievement: The United States
Business Achievement: Britain
Best City: Hong Kong (China)
Scenery: The United Stataes

Hmmm, it looks like the US for me, as they take four of my parameters, compared to China, which takes only two. Still though, Singapore is awesome! Huge city with lots of business opportunity and no crime! Skyscrapers aren't as tall and streets aren't as energetic as in Hong Kong though.
Abdju
16-12-2007, 00:04
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.

Culture: Thailand
Government style: Bhutan
Treatment of racial groups: Singapore
Size: MINES BIGGER!
Wars fought: MINES HARDER!
History: Egypt
Kontor
16-12-2007, 00:07
ANYTHING but the U.S even N. Korea is better! All hail Karl Marx!
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:07
Another patriot? Who keeps breeding you right wing nut-jobs?

The Devil created us and sent through an extra-dimensional porthole to kill all the Christians!
I have never been to France, nor am I French.
Whoops, that did not come out right....we are here to kill Muslims and atheists...and...Chuck Norris!
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:08
ANYTHING but the U.S even N. Korea is better! All hail Karl Marx!

:mp5::sniper::mp5::sniper::mp5::sniper:
Kryozerkia
16-12-2007, 00:08
It's just like you radical right-wingers to defend your rabid racism by calling it patriotism and then denying it.

Now I could laugh at you mockingly by asking: what are you smoking and where can I get some, or I could simply just say that you're suffering from the inability to realise that if I was a patriot, I would have put my country down for something better than size. Treatment of minorities is important. Though I consider culture and history more so. The government also helps to determine the treatment of minorities, so that is important as well.

Besides, if I was a racist, why would I care if my nation treated minorities well? Honestly, are you being obtuse or what, because I don't know how anyone could mistake me for a right-winger when I'm a commie. Then again, I wouldn't expect someone of your paltry, meagre post count to actually know anything about me. You're just a low-post count, small barking dog that can only nip at my ankles.
Swilatia
16-12-2007, 00:10
Size: Stupid criterion.
Wars fought: Idiotic criterion.
QFT.
Kryozerkia
16-12-2007, 00:12
ANYTHING but the U.S even N. Korea is better! All hail Karl Marx!

North Korea is a bloody hell hole. The US is a pretty crappy place compared to most "western" nations, but really, N. Korea is worse than the US. The US would actually be an ok place if the current government wasn't leading an assault on the fundamental rights of its citizens through the Patriot Act.

There is more suffering in North Korea than the US. The average person has few if any rights at all in N. Korea.

The US is still down on the list in general but it is better than some other places, like Saudi Arabia, Myanmar and North Korea. The US has miles to go to improve but it is not entirely bad, even if parts are ridden with rednecks, hillbillies and fundies that drive down the level of acceptance and tolerance that the US otherwise appears to embody.
Kontor
16-12-2007, 00:13
Now I could laugh at you mockingly by asking: what are you smoking and where can I get some, or I could simply just say that you're suffering from the inability to realise that if I was a patriot, I would have put my country down for something better than size. Treatment of minorities is important. Though I consider culture and history more so. The government also helps to determine the treatment of minorities, so that is important as well.

Besides, if I was a racist, why would I care if my nation treated minorities well? Honestly, are you being obtuse or what, because I don't know how anyone could mistake me for a right-winger when I'm a commie. Then again, I wouldn't expect someone of your paltry, meagre post count to actually know anything about me. You're just a low-post count, small barking dog that can only nip at my ankles.

What a disgusting radical example of Christianity gone mad! You, I hesitate to call human. Only the lowest of the low could possibly be so pro white.
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:17
Kontor, are you a druggie? Do you get high? You seem to have an inability to understand reality. You must be a secular progressive liberal.
Kryozerkia
16-12-2007, 00:18
What a disgusting radical example of Christianity gone mad! You, I hesitate to call human. Only the lowest of the low could possibly be so pro white.

I'm a commie Atheist...a goddamn godless heathen of an Atheist is what I am! I'M AN ATHEIST AND... religion can bite the darkest side of my ass. I'm mixed blood married to a Jew turned Atheist.

Now if you don't believe me, how about you ask other NSG'ers instead of blowing out your ass and proving that you have zero literacy skills.

You can call me whatever the hell you want, never, never call me a Christian.

Kontor, are you a druggie? Do you get high? You seem to have an inability to understand reality. You must be a secular progressive liberal.

If he is, he's left of me and I'm damn left and a little high right now. However, marijuana does not screw with my reading skills.
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:19
Fellas, fellas, please! We all must be civil here.

My real idea:

Culture: Italy.
Government style: Croatia.
Treatment of racial groups: Canada.
Size: Vatican/Russia.
Wars fought: Mongolia.
History: Japan.
Kontor
16-12-2007, 00:19
I'm a commie Atheist...a goddamn godless heathen of an Atheist is what I am! I'M AN ATHEIST AND... religion can bite the darkest side of my ass. I'm mixed blood married to a Jew. How about you ask other NSG'ers instead of blowing out your ass and proving that you have zero literacy skills.

Ah a fellow atheist, let's all kill the radical Christian nut-jobs together!
Swilatia
16-12-2007, 00:19
ANYTHING but the U.S even N. Korea is better! All hail Karl Marx!

Really? At least the US doesn't send your entire family to secret prison camps just because you make even the smallest criticism of the country's government.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of the USA, but there are many countries in this world that are much worse.
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:19
I'm a commie Atheist...a goddamn godless heathen of an Atheist is what I am! I'M AN ATHEIST AND... religion can bite the darkest side of my ass. I'm mixed blood married to a Jew. How about you ask other NSG'ers instead of blowing out your ass and proving that you have zero literacy skills.

I will pray for you. I hope you find Christ.
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:20
Really? At least the US doesn't send your entire family to secret prison camps just because you make even the smallest criticism of the country's government.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of the USA, but there are many countries in this world that are much worse.

He was joking, alright? He was just trying to provoke extreme rightists by acting extreme leftist.

Give it a rest.
Plotadonia
16-12-2007, 00:21
North Korea is a bloody hell hole. The US is a pretty crappy place compared to most "western" nations, but really, N. Korea is worse than the US. The US would actually be an ok place if the current government wasn't leading an assault on the fundamental rights of its citizens through the Patriot Act.

The US is still down on the list in general but it is better than some other places, like Saudi Arabia, Myanmar and North Korea. The US has miles to go to improve but it is not entirely bad, even if parts are ridden with rednecks, hillbillies and fundies that drive down the level of acceptance and tolerance that the US otherwise appears to embody.

Ahh you really need to get out more. See the hills of California, see the Big Sur south of Santa Clara, see Savannah and the Georgia Coast, see the Olympic Penninsula and Cascade Mountains of Washington State and the beautiful Rockies, the Golden Gate, the Grand Canyon, maybe check out Manhattan and the Adirondacks while you're at it. I can assure you that Paris with all it's cramped apartment-smaller-then-you-are wonderfulness cannot overcome that. Of course, if you just want to brood over all the things you don't like and your European arrogance and let it ruin your enjoyment of life, that's an option too.

Besides, even if you hate America's government, at least the taxes are low so you're not paying much for it! :D
Kontor
16-12-2007, 00:23
He was joking, alright? He was just trying to provoke extreme rightists by acting extreme leftist.

Give it a rest.

This man gets a gold star, anyway, im done now.
Kryozerkia
16-12-2007, 00:25
Ah a fellow atheist, let's all kill the radical Christian nut-jobs together!

...honestly what have you been smoking? Even if radical Christians and other fundies are assholes, killing them for that reason makes you really no different from them because you'd be killing them simply for their beliefs.

There are other ways to deal with religion. However, that kind of thinking makes you just as extreme as fundies.

I will pray for you. I hope you find Christ.

Don't bother. Prayer does nothing.

Ahh you really need to get out more. See the hills of California, see the Big Sur south of Santa Clara, see Savannah and the Georgia Coast, see the Olympic Penninsula and Cascade Mountains of Washington State and the beautiful Rockies, the Golden Gate, the Grand Canyon, maybe check out Manhattan and the Adirondacks while you're at it. I can assure you that Paris with all it's cramped apartment-smaller-then-you-are wonderfulness cannot overcome that. Of course, if you just want to brood over all the things you don't like and your European arrogance and let it ruin your enjoyment of life, that's an option too.

Besides, even if you hate America's government, at least the taxes are low so you're not paying much for it! :D

I never said America was that bad. It's not great but it's not bad. I do hate the border security so until it gets toned down to a sane level where I'm not flagged for simply having been born with a common name, I'll go elsewhere.

The Rockies I can see in Canada.

I'm not European, I just happen to love Amsterdam and wish I spoke Dutch so I could smoke legally.
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:25
This man gets a gold star, anyway, im done now.

Thank you. May Wiulio help these people if they ever run afoul of Ruffy.
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:26
Don't bother. Prayer does nothing.

I wouldn't want to be you on Judgment Day.
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:27
I wouldn't want to be you on Judgment Day.

Chill.
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:28
Too bad. I won't be judged. Too bad I'll be six feet under and a corpse. Hah! No judgement for me!

Damn supernatural red-tape.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 00:28
I will pray for you. I hope you find Christ.I did! He's talking to the hooker in the stadium!
Kryozerkia
16-12-2007, 00:28
I wouldn't want to be you on Judgment Day.

Too bad. I won't be judged. Too bad I'll be six feet under and a corpse. Hah! No judgement for me!
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:29
Too bad. I won't be judged. Too bad I'll be six feet under and a corpse. Hah! No judgement for me!

You may mock God now, but you will regret it when you die and Jesus says to you "Begone from me, ye cursed, into the everlasting fire!"
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:29
I did! He's talking to the hooker in the stadium!

I hope for your sake that you repent of this blasphemy before you die.
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:30
You may mock God now, but you will regret it when you die and Jesus says to you "Begone from me, ye cursed, into the everlasting fire!"

Sir, supposing you are in fact, right. How would Jesus act in your shoes?
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:31
I hope for your sake that you repent of this blasphemy before you die.

If you want them to stop uttering blasphemies, then stop taking them so seriously. It encourages them.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 00:31
Kontor, are you a druggie? Do you get high? You seem to have an inability to understand reality. You must be a secular progressive liberal.No, he's a right-wing troll. Review his post history if you don't believe me.
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:32
Sir, supposing you are in fact, right. How would Jesus act in your shoes?

You have this incorrect idea of Jesus. You think he was always nice and kind. But that's anti-Biblical! When he overturned the tables of the money-changers in the temple, was he being "nice" then? He rebuked people for their sins, that they may be spared the hellfire.
Kontor
16-12-2007, 00:33
No, he's a right-wing troll. Review his post history if you don't believe me.

Laerod you never responded to my proof that so called anti-torture people want bush to be tortured.
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:33
No, he's a right-wing troll. Review his post history if you don't believe me.

What's a troll? I've seen this term used a few times, and I do not understand.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 00:34
I hope for your sake that you repent of this blasphemy before you die.Sorry, it's the truth. There's this Where's Waldo thing with Jesus, and I found him. I take it you haven't, or you wouldn't consider my advice on finding him as blasphemy.
Kontor
16-12-2007, 00:35
I hope for your sake that you repent of this blasphemy before you die.

You are just as bad as the radical leftists, you are not help your case at all.
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:36
What's a troll? I've seen this term used a few times, and I do not understand.

A person who tries to annoy people for fun.

Example: "Hitler iz teh pwn!"
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:36
You are just as bad as the radical leftists, you are not help your case at all.

I have the word of Christ on my side, the radical leftists simply despise God and all that is good, while they delight in sin.
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:37
A person who tries to annoy people for fun.

Example: "Hitler iz teh pwn!"

Ah, I see. Thank you.
Newer Burmecia
16-12-2007, 00:37
I have the word of Christ on my side, the radical leftists simply despise God and all that is good, while they delight in sin.
Damn straight.
Kontor
16-12-2007, 00:37
I have the word of Christ on my side, the radical leftists simply despise God and all that is good, while they delight in sin.

Just tone it down a LITTLE, you can't tell people about God if you alienate them.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 00:38
What's a troll? I've seen this term used a few times, and I do not understand.From this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=410573):
Trolling: Posts that are made with the aim of angering people. (like 'ALL JEWS ARE [insert vile comment here]' for example). Also is used to refer to making obviously silly topics that people nonetheless will reply to. (making a case for the proof that teletubbies exist for instance. There will always be someone who feels compelled to post 'No they don't.' Threads like this should just be ignored.)
Kontor's been pretty right-wing in his opinions until now. Considering how sudden the change in his posting style and the stereotypical nature of his new "opinions", the logical conclusion is that he's trolling.
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:38
You have this incorrect idea of Jesus. You think he was always nice and kind. But that's anti-Biblical! When he overturned the tables of the money-changers in the temple, was he being "nice" then? He rebuked people for their sins, that they may be spared the hellfire.

But he did not spend his time whining; he took action. You are merely typing. What came come of it? Nothing good. They will only try to irritate you.

And if you must proceed, please do it on another thread.
Kontor
16-12-2007, 00:39
I have the word of Christ on my side, the radical leftists simply despise God and all that is good, while they delight in sin.

From this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=410573):

Kontor's been pretty right-wing in his opinions until now. Considering how sudden the change in his posting style and the stereotypical nature of his new "opinions", the logical conclusion is that he's trolling.

Yep, but it's not my thing so I quit....after about 5 min, so I guess it just does not fit me well.
Abdju
16-12-2007, 00:40
You have this incorrect idea of Jesus. You think he was always nice and kind. But that's anti-Biblical! When he overturned the tables of the money-changers in the temple, was he being "nice" then? He rebuked people for their sins, that they may be spared the hellfire.

I am no longer amused by your trolling.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 00:40
I have the word of Christ on my side, the radical leftists simply despise God and all that is good, while they delight in sin.Because hubris is a virtue :rolleyes:
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:41
Because hubris is a virtue :rolleyes:

I ask you please, stop responding. It has nothing to do with this thread.
Quagpit
16-12-2007, 00:44
I have the word of Christ on my side, the radical leftists simply despise God and all that is good, while they delight in sin.
Au contraire, God is good, and not to be despised, for if it was not for Him, how could there be Sin to delight in?
GodsAmerica
16-12-2007, 00:45
But he did not spend his time whining; he took action. You are merely typing. What came come of it? Nothing good. They will only try to irritate you.

And if you must proceed, please do it on another thread.

Very well. I recognize that this thread is about something completely different, and, because you were at least polite enough to answer my question, I will remove myself from this thread.

God bless.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 00:45
I ask you please, stop responding. It has nothing to do with this thread.If you want this thread back on track, I suggest you start a few posts actually discussing the topic. I'm not overly disappointed that it's taken a turn away, but I'm not going to prevent you from putting it back on track.
The Parkus Empire
16-12-2007, 00:47
If you want this thread back on track, I suggest you start a few posts actually discussing the topic. I'm not overly disappointed that it's taken a turn away, but I'm not going to prevent you from putting it back on track.

Okay....

So what did you all think of my picks (the later, serious ones)?
Skoomehrism
16-12-2007, 00:48
America is the best country in the world. All of Europe has fallen into godless decadence.

Though Israel comes close behind, because it is the historic home of God's people, who received the Old Covenant and foretold the coming of our Savior, Lord Jesus Christ.

So.. religion is what makes a country great?

If that is the case, go to India, I'm sure you'll like it there.

I will pray for you. I hope you find Christ.

I found him once, in my cupboard.


I put him back in.

I wouldn't want to be you on Judgment Day.

I wouldn't want to be you on this imagined Judgement Day, when you find out the Mormons were right.

I have the word of Christ on my side, the radical leftists simply despise God and all that is good, while they delight in sin.

You have to be joking.

You've GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!


xD!!
Zanski
16-12-2007, 00:49
Culture: Israel n Pal Territories/India
Government style; Netherlands
Treatment of racial groups: umm Singapore?
Size: shut up
Wars fought: fuck off
History: England
Kryozerkia
16-12-2007, 00:53
You may mock God now, but you will regret it when you die and Jesus says to you "Begone from me, ye cursed, into the everlasting fire!"

No I won't because I'll be dead. If there was an afterlife, the souls of the tormented would have come back to warn us, but they haven't.

If you want them to stop uttering blasphemies, then stop taking them so seriously. It encourages them.

Yes it does. And it's amusing when they do it.

I have the word of Christ on my side, the radical leftists simply despise God and all that is good, while they delight in sin.

Yes, sin is fun. Most sin is only a sin because some cranky, jaded old cynical geezer who couldn't stand seeing other take pleasure out of life made it so.

And back on topic...

We could include:

Human Rights
Weather
Architecture
Zanski
16-12-2007, 00:53
Really, the USA and Canada should be considered part of Western Europe. Tell me one thing that they have in the USA that they don't have in Europe.
....or Africa...
Abdju
16-12-2007, 00:53
Culture: Israel n Pal Territories/India
Government style; Netherlands
Treatment of racial groups: umm Singapore?
Size: shut up
Wars fought: fuck off
History: England


I also picked Singapore for the racial groups choice... True the reality doesn't always live up to the ideal, in that racism does sometimes still exist on the personal level, but the overall government policy I think is a really good idea... Every group has their own culture, but are still one people, one nation. I like that idea...
Kryozerkia
16-12-2007, 00:56
Really, the USA and Canada should be considered part of Western Europe. Tell me one thing that they have in the USA that they don't have in Europe.
....or Africa...

The USA has George Bush! :eek: They don't have that in Europe OR Africa!
Pirated Corsairs
16-12-2007, 00:57
George Bush! :D They don't have that in Europe OR Africa!

...

Lucky bastards.
Imperio Mexicano
16-12-2007, 01:02
Whichever country my g.f. is in is the best. Since she resides in the Philippines, the Philippines is the best. If she were to move to, say, Paraguay, then Paraguay would be the best. Or if she had one foot in Norway and the other in Sweden, both would be tied for best country...unless half of her stood slightly more in one country, in which case that would be the best country, with the other coming in for a close second.
Kryozerkia
16-12-2007, 01:02
...

Lucky bastards.

I realised that my smiley was disturbing... so I changed it. :)

Besides. Bush makes for great comedy material. Hell, so do all the Dems and the GOP. ;) Better than anything in other nations! Great comedy material that writes itself.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 01:03
Okay....

So what did you all think of my picks (the later, serious ones)?

Actually, I think the whole thing is rather silly. I like certain countries for certain reasons, and not those listed. Most important is where I can feel at home at, and that's not something that can readily be determined from the categories listed.

Culture: Culture changes, and its radically different from region to region. Classifying which country is better based on overall culture is largely meaningless to me, since its the community that I live in that's important.
Government Style: I have a certain minimum that must be met, and after that, it becomes largely irrelevant.
Treatment of Racial groups: Again, I have a certain standard that must be met.
Size: Larger countries tend to have shittier infrastructure but nicer scenery while countries with higher population density are easier to travel in but have less virgin terrain.
Wars fought: Need I mention why this is silly?
History: Depends on the repurcussions on modern culture, but otherwise not a deciding factor.

I have two nationalities, so my thoughts on people favoring one country over another is: to each their own. Wherever you're comfortable is the best country for you.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 01:04
Really, the USA and Canada should be considered part of Western Europe. Tell me one thing that they have in the USA that they don't have in Europe.
....or Africa...
Nutella jars containing less than 400 g of Nutella.
Fall of Empire
16-12-2007, 01:05
Really, the USA and Canada should be considered part of Western Europe. Tell me one thing that they have in the USA that they don't have in Europe.
....or Africa...

American politics pretty much exclude the US from W. Europe. We think so radically differently on so many issues.
Fall of Empire
16-12-2007, 01:07
Really, the USA and Canada should be considered part of Western Europe. Tell me one thing that they have in the USA that they don't have in Europe.
....or Africa...

The US and Africa only share two things in common:
AIDS
Poor black people

I can't imagine two places that can be more different.
Imperio Mexicano
16-12-2007, 01:08
Culture Democratic Republic of the Congo or Ethiopia
Government style Liechtenstein
Treatment of racial groups Singapore, maybe?
Size Russia...obviously ;)
Wars fought Sweden. Why? They haven't fought a war since the early 1810s, IIRC. They win brownie points for being peaceful.
History DRC again
Miiros
16-12-2007, 01:11
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.

Culture: United States (Great Lakes Region)
Treatment of Racial Groups: Canada
Size: Singapore
Wars Fought: Antarctica
History: United States

Overall, the United States because I am a biased bastard. I don't think it's really possible to pinpoint the "best" country on Earth though. Each country has some good and some bad... although there are some with a lot more bad.
Swilatia
16-12-2007, 01:36
Really, the USA and Canada should be considered part of Western Europe. Tell me one thing that they have in the USA that they don't have in Europe.
....or Africa...

I don't think there's enough space on the server to do that.
Plotadonia
16-12-2007, 01:41
Really, the USA and Canada should be considered part of Western Europe. Tell me one thing that they have in the USA that they don't have in Europe.
....or Africa...

Skyscrapers (let's face it, Frankfurt and London are pretty wussy even in comparison to Seattle and Atlanta, which aren't even close to America's greatest skyscraper cities), Indian Reservations, Evangelicalism (exception: Turkey, though that's Eastern Europe), and the English System of Measurement (although I guess you can find that in South Africa) just to name a few.
Sel Appa
16-12-2007, 01:46
Clearly Zimbabwe is the best in the world.
Tongass
16-12-2007, 01:46
Culture - United States for sure

Government style - Whoever ranks at the top of the various freedom indicies, like Estonia or Iceland or Ireland or Canada or Switzerland or someplace in Scandinavia

Treatment of racial groups - Since there's racism everywhere, I would guess probably somewhere in the Americas, since in most places there it's existence either overtly acknowledged and fought, or there's enough intermarriage to blur racial boundaries.

Size - Canada

Wars fought - Switzerland

History - Egypt, Iraq, or India
Slythros
16-12-2007, 01:54
[QUOTE=Miiros;13295206]
History: United States
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Come on! You have what, 200 years? Get back to me when you have a a real history.

Technically, I'm also an American, but it's more fun to act as if everyone else is and I just happen to live here. I wasn't born here though, if that counts.
Slythros
16-12-2007, 02:01
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.

Culture- some scandinavian country. Liberal and progressive, then black metal when you get tired of that

Government style- again, some scandinavian country

Treatment of racial groups- no idea. definitley not Iran

Size- Russia, obviously

Wars fought- again, some scandinavian country. They're peaceful now, and were vikings in the past. What more could you want?

History- numerous countries here, my bias makes me want to say Iran but there are plenty of strong contenders
Port Arcana
16-12-2007, 02:01
The US and Africa only share two things in common:
AIDS
Poor black people

I can't imagine two places that can be more different.

Too true. :(
Frisbeeteria
16-12-2007, 04:00
What a disgusting radical example of Christianity gone mad! You, I hesitate to call human. Only the lowest of the low could possibly be so pro white.
Kontor, Official warning, trolling & flaming. You're not just a little out of line, you're way over it. Knock it off, or your nation goes away. Clear?


What's a troll? I've seen this term used a few times, and I do not understand.

You may have left this thread, but just a bit of warning.

Revealing the puppetmaster behind the oh-so-devout-and-innocent troll puppet may not be PC, but we WILL do it if it becomes necessary. Such acts are often accompanied by deletions and/or long forumbans. Consider yourself politely warned.
Nouvelle Wallonochie
16-12-2007, 04:05
Really, the USA and Canada should be considered part of Western Europe. Tell me one thing that they have in the USA that they don't have in Europe.
....or Africa...

Huge... tracts of land. (5 points to whoever gets the reference)

And yes, I know Africa has lots of relatively empty land

Culture: United States (Great Lakes Region)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/tuebor/Michigan.gif

Nutella jars containing less than 400 g of Nutella.


One can never have enough Nutella.
Imperio Mexicano
16-12-2007, 04:07
One can never have enough Nutella.

True.
Soviestan
16-12-2007, 04:10
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture:US, Saudi Arabia. completely different I know but I like aspects of both.
Government style: UK, Canada, Netherlands.
Treatment of racial groups: UK, Canada, Netherlands
Size: Canada, US
Wars fought: US, Palestine
History: US, Zambia,Iraq
Frisbeeteria
16-12-2007, 04:11
Huge... tracts of land. (5 points to whoever gets the reference)

5 points to everyone here then? Or a least everyone with a certain... special... something... ?

[cue music]
Nouvelle Wallonochie
16-12-2007, 04:12
5 points to everyone here then? Or a least everyone with a certain... special... something... ?

[cue music]

*awards 5 points*
New Malachite Square
16-12-2007, 04:13
Treatment of racial groups: Canada

C'mon… seriously?
Eureka Australis
16-12-2007, 07:09
Culture:US, Saudi Arabia. completely different I know but I like aspects of both.
Government style: UK, Canada, Netherlands.
Treatment of racial groups: UK, Canada, Netherlands
Size: Canada, US
Wars fought: US, Palestine
History: US, Zambia,Iraq

Trust you to defend a reactionary hellhole like Saudi.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 11:19
Huge... tracts of land. (5 points to whoever gets the reference)You can't hand out points for easy references. Especially when the best man has a sword through his head.
One can never have enough Nutella.Keeps my hemoglobin count utopian :D
Kyronea
16-12-2007, 11:34
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.
Hmm...

Culture: Germany
Government Style: Sweden
Treatment of Racial Groups: Probably Canada
Size: This isn't as idiotic as one might think at first, though it is certainly much more opinion-based. In terms of appropriate size to the country, I think Sweden fits best here. It's just right, size wise.
Wars Fought: I'm not sure I understand what this is supposed to be exactly.
History: China
Guardsland
16-12-2007, 14:12
Culture: Italy/Argentina
Government style: Sweden
Treatment of racial groups: Sweden probably again
Size: UK - One of the smallest countries had the biggest emipre
Wars fought: UK - Have not been successfully invaded since 1066 and have conqured 1/4 of the world before.
History: UK
Zaheran
16-12-2007, 14:24
Wars fought: Sweden. Why? They haven't fought a war since the early 1810s, IIRC. They win brownie points for being peaceful.


You'll have to take those brownie points back soon. We are planning a little war up here. It might be a good idea to buy stocks in bunkers...:p
Yootopia
16-12-2007, 14:27
Obviously the UK. Christ, people...
The Atlantian islands
16-12-2007, 14:36
Treatment of racial groups - Since there's racism everywhere, I would guess probably somewhere in the Americas, since in most places there it's existence either overtly acknowledged and fought, or there's enough intermarriage to blur racial boundaries.
You know it's one thing to be indifferent to racial mixing and such where one believes, it's up to the individuals if they want to do, as it's their choice...but to actually PUSH for intermarriage to destroy the wonderful diversity of humanity that evolution has given us makes seriously no sense to me. Why is it a good thing if all humans look the same? How fucking boring is that?

Whichever country my g.f. is in is the best. Since she resides in the Philippines, the Philippines is the best. If she were to move to, say, Paraguay, then Paraguay would be the best. Or if she had one foot in Norway and the other in Sweden, both would be tied for best country...unless half of her stood slightly more in one country, in which case that would be the best country, with the other coming in for a close second.
How whipped of you. :p
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture America: I like the whole capitalism, American dream, individuality, patriotism, nationalism and diversity all tied into one culture, American

Government style Switzerland: Excellent usage of Direct-Democracy

Treatment of racial groups Switzerland: Has alot of diversity but also knows when too much multiculturalism fails. Isn't afraid to discuss important racial/ethnic issues and right the wrongs associated with them.

Size America: Such excellent natural diversity. No other country compares to it in this sense.

Wars fought England: Conquered 1/4 of the world. Must have done something right. I love the British Empire.

History England, Greece, Egypt or Rome: England had the British Empire (mentioned above) plus the British Empire was the first state to really adopt a more liberal aspect towards government and economics. Greece, well ancient Greece was amazing and I love their mythology. Rome had the Roman Empire, which modern nations STILL try to copy and live up to. Egypt had the Egyptian kingdoms and though they enslaved the Jews, they were still magnificant kingdoms and I just totally love Egyptian mythology.


and any others you might think of.

Also, I find it so pathetic that people can even DEBATE about which is worse North Korea or America. That's the fucking dumbest shit I've ever seen. Any idiot that even takes time out to debate that needs to go put his head in the microwave for 3 minutes.:rolleyes:
Cameroi
16-12-2007, 14:39
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.

the best country to live in is one that doesn't measure itself on any of those things, other perhaps then cultural values in the anthropological sense.

the best country to live in is one that puts quality of life and the kind of world we all have to live in, ahead of economics or any other pretension of status, and that has a culture of doing so.

one that has lots of little people sized trains and almost no paved highways.
one who'se dominant beliefs aren't fanatical personality cults like christianity and islam.

one that has nothing against environmentally harmonious tecnologies, but doesn't expect any tecnology, or 'level' of it, to somehow magically make up for shortcommings of self dicipline and conscience.

too bad i don't know of any, other then maybe a few micro-nations, imaginary ones, and settings out of science fiction and fantasy.

and that don't mean there couldn't be either.

although america needs to stop bullying everyone else, and 'conservative'/i.e. 'economic' forces with in it, its own self as well, out of trying to.

=^^=
.../\...
Nouvelle Wallonochie
16-12-2007, 15:54
You can't hand out points for easy references. Especially when the best man has a sword through his head.

Meh, with the people I've been hanging out with lately that wouldn't have been a particularly easy reference.
Laerod
16-12-2007, 15:57
Meh, with the people I've been hanging out with lately that wouldn't have been a particularly easy reference.That's horrible! :eek:
Nouvelle Wallonochie
16-12-2007, 16:01
That's horrible! :eek:

You have no idea.
Rhursbourg
16-12-2007, 16:43
Culture UK or Tonga
Government style UK
Treatment of racial groups Greenland
Size San Marino
Wars fought Turkmenistan
History Persia
Creepy Lurker
16-12-2007, 16:44
Skyscrapers (let's face it, Frankfurt and London are pretty wussy even in comparison to Seattle and Atlanta, which aren't even close to America's greatest skyscraper cities), Indian Reservations, Evangelicalism (exception: Turkey, though that's Eastern Europe), and the English System of Measurement (although I guess you can find that in South Africa) just to name a few.


I think there are laws/regulations in London to limit skyscrapers. It would ruin the skyline.

Huge phallic symbolism isn't to everyone's taste.
New Granada
16-12-2007, 17:42
What do you think is the best country in the world according to these parameters:

Culture
Government style
Treatment of racial groups
Size
Wars fought
History


and any others you might think of.

Nowwwww Justice will be served, and the battle will rage
this big dog'll fight, if you rattle his cage
and you'll be sorry that you messed with
the U S of A

We'll put a boot in your ass
ITS THE AMERICAN WAY

yeah uncle sam put your name at the top of his list
and the statue of liberty started shaking her fist
and the eagle will fly
and its gonna be hell
when you hear mother freedom start RINGING HER BELL
and it'll feel like the whole wide world is raining down on yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

brought to you courtesy

OF THE RED WHITE AND BLUEEEEEEEEE



1) England / Italy
2) Switzerland
3) China
4) USA
5) England
6) England
Mad hatters in jeans
16-12-2007, 20:04
I've noticed alot of people mention the "English empire", i'l remind you it was the British one because there's Scotland, Wales too.(not sure about northern ireland).
The Scots did a pretty good job of being just as nasty and cruel as the English did in Britains old empire, a major issue with empires is they eventually collapse because there's too many different cultures to change, bloody revolution destroys most of them, and they typically have a caste system with no social mobility.

In fact alot of the Scottish ways of fighting have been copied by the US in the past, notice the Civil war, many of the tactics used by the confederate forces mimick the Scottish "highland charge" (highland charge=charging as fast as possible with the biggest sword you can usually a claymore at the enemy lines) also the confederate flag notice the similarities between the Scottish flag and confederate, both have the cross.

But of all the empires if i had to pick one of the despicable mass genocidal reigns of terror in the past i'd go for......the buddhist empire! yes, sheer horror as the dali lama meditated rage against his opponents of India and created the 4 noble truths (i forget what they are but they're pretty accurate).:confused::confused::confused:
Bann-ed
16-12-2007, 20:14
USA bc 4 evar
The Vuhifellian States
16-12-2007, 22:00
America is the best country in the world. All of Europe has fallen into godless decadence.

Though Israel comes close behind, because it is the historic home of God's people, who received the Old Covenant and foretold the coming of our Savior, Lord Jesus Christ.

Europe - Awesome eco-technology and super-railroads!

America - We have the 2nd highest pollution per capita, a shit-load of fat people, and terrorists who murder abortion doctors and claim to be defenders of life.

Israel - Obscene levels of violence, discrimination from one ethno-religios group to another, and all their neighbors hate them.


I'll stick with Europe.

===

And now to actually answer the thread:

Culture: Japan
Government style: US
Treatment of racial groups: ? (Everyone's a little bit racist!!)
Size: Russia
Wars fought: Germany
History: Japan
The Utopian Republic
16-12-2007, 23:09
Culture: France
History:Italy
Treatment of races: well, certainly not the US or Russia
Government:well, most European countries
Tongass
17-12-2007, 00:50
You know it's one thing to be indifferent to racial mixing and such where one believes, it's up to the individuals if they want to do, as it's their choice...but to actually PUSH for intermarriage to destroy the wonderful diversity of humanity that evolution has given us makes seriously no sense to me. Why is it a good thing if all humans look the same? How fucking boring is that?
I find this notion incredibly distasteful. It almost sounds like you're advocating that it's better for people to marry within their own ethnicity. Intermarriage doesn't result in everybody looking the same; it increases diversity by bringing about cultural and genetic combinations that wouldn't arise if ethnicities remained segregated. This variety aids evolution. Which would you rather have? A place like South Africa that is largely segregated into white and black? Or a place like Brazil, where you have the entire frickin spectrum?
New new nebraska
17-12-2007, 01:32
Culture: The United States
Government style: Any democracy
Treatment of Racial Groups: unsure
Size:The United states
Wars Fought: is this supposed ti be good or badHistory: unsure

As someone else mentioned

Technological Achievement: The United States
Business Achievement: unsure
Best City: New York City(USA) (London 2nd.)
Scenery: The United States(extremely varied, I mean c'mon)
Nouvelle Wallonochie
17-12-2007, 02:54
Size:The United states

What, are Canada and Russia too big, while the US is just right? Explain this one, if you would.