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Do Left-wingers care about Political Correctness?

Third Spanish States
15-12-2007, 06:24
The other poll will bring predictable results, and this probably might too but the "politically correct pinko" is mainly a stereotype, because I am a leftist and I care about this excuse for censorship to the point I wish the growing PC patrol ceased to exist after a while. Being arrested for telling a lame joke would really suck and there is always the slippery slope. Plus the "political correct" came from Stalinist Russia. Now I'm interested on what other left-wingers think about this subject.
Eureka Australis
15-12-2007, 06:30
PC is not a socialist concept, it's the creation of the intellectually-bankrupt of the modern 'left liberals' bent on creating social unrest and breaking down social cohesion to further their own agenda. The modern 'left' (especially in America) has become an inane and all-encompassing soapbox for the degenerate and mishap minorities of society, a showcase of abnormality in the name of 'unity' if you will. It's political opportunism at it's highest.
Tongass
15-12-2007, 06:34
"Politically correct" doesn't even mean anything. It's a non-concept, a pure buzzword. By debating it, we give credence to the rhetorical sleight-of-hand that is its only purpose for existence.
Cameroi
15-12-2007, 09:59
i'm annoyed that the phrase "political correctness" was coined to trivialize real morality. which it was.

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Sirmomo1
15-12-2007, 11:50
Political Correctness is largely an invention of the right.
Isselmark
15-12-2007, 11:58
Political Correctness is largely an invention of the right.

Do you have any evidense to support this?

PC seeks to bring down those strong enough to create their own values.

Incidentally, PC inherantly means correct according to the political bent of the times. So in Soviet Russia, it would be PC to support the Gulags, in Nazi Germany, PC to support the reich and anti-semitism. How can any free society tolerate this enforced obedience to political and cultural fads?
Tagmatium
15-12-2007, 11:59
By and large, political correct is just politeness. Yeah, some morons take it to the extremes and you also get the Daily Mail readers and other right-wing idiots bleating about "it's political correct gone mad!!!1!!" (as much as I loathe to use more than one exclamation mark, it befits it this time), but some its just damned common sense. You can't call some people insulting names, as its just damn rude. The fact that good manners appear to be entirely on the wane these days is probably a direct factor of this sort of thing.

On the flipside, the arseholes who ban things like "Baa, baa blacksheep" because its apparently racist ought to grow some thicker skin. Not everything that mentions a bloody colour has origins in racism.
Nobel Hobos
15-12-2007, 12:14
If you aren't politically correct, you're just plain wrong.

I take "politically correct" in the literal sense. Anything else is derogatory of politics, and therefore an abrogation of the citizen's obligation to give a fuck about government.

Since you gave no definition, and the term is ambiguous: the poll sucked so bad I didn't even vote.
Newer Burmecia
15-12-2007, 12:17
Define political correctness. Are we talking about the intellectually honest definition, or the foaming at the mouth OMG PC LIBERALS HATE CHRISTIANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! strawman definition?
Tagmatium
15-12-2007, 12:18
Define political correctness. Are we talking about the intellectually honest definition, or the foaming at the mouth OMG PC LIBERALS HATE CHRISTIANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! strawman definition?
Probably the latter.
Nobel Hobos
15-12-2007, 12:26
The OP is offline already. I think if two or three of us were to petition Moderation, we could have this thread locked as Flamebait.

Whatcha say, NB and Tagm ? Sirmomo1, too ...
Newer Burmecia
15-12-2007, 12:29
Probably the latter.
The phrase 'PC patrol' kind of gives it away, I suppose. Perhaps there's a Portugese edition of the Mail on Sunday that this guy can read.
Sirmomo1
15-12-2007, 12:30
The OP is offline already. I think if two or three of us were to petition Moderation, we could have this thread locked as Flamebait.

Whatcha say, NB and Tagm ? Sirmomo1, too ...

I feel so included :*)
Newer Burmecia
15-12-2007, 12:30
The OP is offline already. I think if two or three of us were to petition Moderation, we could have this thread locked as Flamebait.

Whatcha say, NB and Tagm ? Sirmomo1, too ...
Wouldn't we be accused of being too PC?;)
Sirmomo1
15-12-2007, 12:34
The phrase 'PC patrol' kind of gives it away, I suppose. Perhaps there's a Portugese edition of the Mail on Sunday that this guy can read.

Read about excessive EU sardine regulations. Plus: Spain - Iberian amigo or nasty neighbour? Why not e-mail in your view? E-mails deemed most likely to have had a first draft in crayon or human poo will be printed.
Nobel Hobos
15-12-2007, 12:34
Wouldn't we be accused of being too PC?;)

Yep. :D

I've looked at TSS's posting history. Pretty average leftist, but I retract the "Flamebait" accusation.

... perhaps we should just Spam it to death instead ...

Sirmomo1, I couldn't see if you were online from inside the New Post box. I posted, saw you were, and did a quick edit. No offense intended.
Sirmomo1
15-12-2007, 12:34
Wouldn't we be accused of being too PC?;)

Not to mention we'd be a bona fide brigade
Nobel Hobos
15-12-2007, 12:38
Not to mention we'd be a bona fide brigade

Brigads are kinda like pirates, aren't they? Count me in!
Sirmomo1
15-12-2007, 12:39
Yep. :D

I've looked at TSS's posting history. Pretty dumb leftist, but I retract the "Flamebait" accusation.

... perhaps we should just Spam it to death instead ...

Sirmomo1, I couldn't see if you were online from inside the New Post box. I posted, saw you were, and did a quick edit. No offense intended.

Oh no, I meant it. I did feel included. Can't a guy say he feels included without seeming like he's offended? It's political correctness gone mad!
Newer Burmecia
15-12-2007, 12:39
Read about excessive EU sardine regulations. Plus: Spain - Iberian amigo or nasty neighbour? Why not e-mail in your view? E-mails deemed most likely to have had a first draft in crayon or human poo will be printed.
Classic!:D
Newer Burmecia
15-12-2007, 12:42
... perhaps we should just Spam it to death instead ...
I heartily agree:

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Nobel Hobos
15-12-2007, 13:11
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Ardchoille
15-12-2007, 15:04
No, I haz problem w this spam-it-to-death stuff. It's illegal. Cut it out.

Nobel Hobos, Newer Burmecia, Sirmomo1, the Eye of Mod is upon you.
Soheran
15-12-2007, 15:38
Being arrested for telling a lame joke would really suck and there is always the slippery slope.

No, there really isn't. You can't say that just because one position is advocated a radically more extreme position must also be advocated. That's why slippery slope arguments are fallacies.

Now I'm interested on what other left-wingers think about this subject.

I generally like political correctness. I think sometimes it serves as a cover for racism (like the way conservative propagandists use "African-American") but for the most part it shows a respect for others crucial to a functioning equal society.
Hydesland
15-12-2007, 15:47
I think some types of political correctness is incredibly boring, quaint and almost patronising. Other types can be a good thing. I don't really like the term in general, it's too all encompassing.

Political correctness when applied to religion and culture however is often particularly stupid. Just because a culture or religion is old does not make it any less stupid.

Other elements, such as the terms "African American" or "coloured" are also incredibly stupid, having the reverse effect of making the term black seem offensive.
Nobel Hobos
15-12-2007, 21:20
I take full responsibility for attempting to spam the thread to death. The record shows quite plainly that I instigated that.

I want to plead on behalf of Sirmomo1. Guilt by association I think. Without NB's and my posts there, no-one would pick S1's posts as spam. Coupla good jokes, responded to my suggestion that we petition Moderation but not to the call for a Spam Jihad. In retrospect, the first idea was even worse than the second, but no-one actually DID it.

Ardchoille: sorry about that, it was dumb. It was Saturday night. I think I also managed to spam a thread about Carrot Cake, if that's even possible.
Sel Appa
15-12-2007, 22:36
Screw political correctness. I violate or satirize it all the time.
GodsAmerica
15-12-2007, 23:01
Yes, libs are politically correct. I tried to post a thread about how America is a Christian Nation, but the liberal mods seem to have censored it because of their liberal, anti-Christian PC bias.
Tornar
15-12-2007, 23:10
Political correctness was started as something to avoid people getting offended, and now it has become something more like stopping people from presenting new, radical opinions, and I think that's wrong. So I think left-wingers care about it, but in a bad way. They see it as something barring their way.
Quagpit
15-12-2007, 23:11
Yes, libs are politically correct. I tried to post a thread about how America is a Christian Nation, but the liberal mods seem to have censored it because of their liberal, anti-Christian PC bias.

Are you saying that Conservative Christianity is Politically Wrong? :p
GodsAmerica
15-12-2007, 23:13
Are you saying that Conservative Christianity is Politically Wrong? :p

We don't mess around with this liberal-commie "political correctness." I'd rather be actually correct than politically correct.
Intestinal fluids
16-12-2007, 01:04
We don't mess around with this liberal-commie "political correctness." I'd rather be actually correct than politically correct.

Do i really want to ask why political correctness is a liberal commie characteristic? If anything political correctness would be a conservative movement to bring politics back to the days of old. And how do you think it has anything to do with communism? Or is that just a broad label you just attach to all things you dont like?
Fall of Empire
16-12-2007, 01:12
We don't mess around with this liberal-commie "political correctness." I'd rather be actually correct than politically correct.

Political correctness isn't communist.

Regardless, I agree with you... I'd rather be accurate then to waste breath telling a politically correct euphemism.

And Intestinal Fluids, you clearly have no idea what political correctness is if you think its "a conservative attempt to bring us back to the days of old"
Pirated Corsairs
16-12-2007, 01:13
Yes, libs are politically correct. I tried to post a thread about how America is a Christian Nation, but the liberal mods seem to have censored it because of their liberal, anti-Christian PC bias.

I'm interested, what do you have to support this view? I actually just finished a debate (http://www.debate.com/debates/America-is-a-Christian-Nation/1/) on this very issue, you see, and I'm pretty sure I presented the better argument.

(Yes, I know he's pretty much a troll, but I thought I'd try, because I'm stupid like that. :p)
Ardchoille
16-12-2007, 04:10
Yes, libs are politically correct. I tried to post a thread about how America is a Christian Nation, but the liberal mods seem to have censored it because of their liberal, anti-Christian PC bias.

All of us keep saying this, but it never seems to sink in: there are Christian mods. There are mods of other religions. There are mods who just don't care. Some of us are vaguely lefty, others are vaguely rightish. But if we let our biases interfere with our modding, we wouldn't be mods for long.

In the quick check I did, I couldn't find what happened to your thread. But if it was posed in the manner of your posts in this thread, it might well have been deemed trolling or trollbait. Please, take the very good advice of several other players, notably The Parkus Empire, and chill/tone it down a bit.


I want to plead on behalf of Sirmomo1. Guilt by association I think. Without NB's and my posts there, no-one would pick S1's posts as spam.

You're quite right. He's a good lad, he'd just got mixed up with a fast crowd.:D Sorry about that, Sirmomo1. Just go buy yourself an icecream and we won't say a word about my little midjudgement to Uncle Fris, will we? Or Auntie Kat, or Uncle HotRodia, or ...
I think I also managed to spam a thread about Carrot Cake, if that's even possible.
I'll take the blame there. I could have closed that spamalicious thread after its first post, but it looked like too much fun, and it is the holiday season. (Official modly reason for not closing it: encourages sense of community.)
Eureka Australis
16-12-2007, 06:36
We don't mess around with this liberal-commie "political correctness." I'd rather be actually correct than politically correct.

OMG you didn't just put 'Liberal' and 'Communist' in the same sentence did you? ...... Only in America....
Ardchoille
16-12-2007, 06:59
Re your thread, GodsAmerica: It was caught up in the moderation queue. I locked it, because it was, indeed, trolling. Or possibly, since I can't read your intentions, merely trollbait. Take Fris's advice here (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13295499&postcount=95).
Gravlen
16-12-2007, 18:14
So... three pages and still no definition of the term "political correct" - only a vague clame that it somehow originates from Stalinist Russia?

I'll note this thread as "Pointless and useless."
Yootopia
16-12-2007, 18:17
I like politeness. I don't like the destruction of language.

Therefore I'm partially for political correctness, but mostly against.