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## Huckabee skyrockets among GOP voters in key state <<from 3% to 24%

OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 00:22
Huckabee, hands down. Please, please, please, PLEASE let him get the nomination. Pretty please? With sugar and strawberries on top?Well,

Huckabee.. huh?
why the hell not?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/14/s.carolina.poll/index.html?section=cnn_latest#cnnSTCVideo

Ex-Gov. Mike Huckabee leads Republican poll as the "most believable" GOP presidential candidate.

(CNN) -- Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee has shot to the top of a new poll in South Carolina, leading Republican presidential candidates in the key Southern state.

Ex-Gov. Mike Huckabee leads a South Carolina poll as the "most believable" GOP presidential candidate.

Huckabee garnered 24 % in the CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, conducted by phone between Sunday and Wednesday. The survey was released Friday.

When the same poll was conducted in July, Huckabee was in the lower tier, with 3 % of support from registered GOP voters. Video Watch how Huckabee's star is rising ยป

The survey suggested that Huckabee's personality was among his strengths. In particular, he tops the list when likely GOP voters are asked to name the candidate who is most believable. The South Carolina poll showed Huckabee rocketing ahead of his GOP rivals, including the former front-runner in the state, ex-New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani, who led the July poll with 30 %, dropped to a tie for third with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, both at 16 %.
Venndee
15-12-2007, 00:26
Huckabee.. huh?
why the hell not?

Because he's a creationist Hillary?
OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 00:26
CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll

# Mike Huckabee: 24 percent

# Fred Thompson: 17 percent

# Rudy Giuliani: 16 percent

# Mitt Romney: 16 percent

# John McCain: 13 percent

# Ron Paul: 11 percent

# Duncan Hunter: 1percent

# Tom Tancredo: 1percent

# No opinion: 3 percent
OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 00:30
Because he's a creationist Hillary?apparently thats not enough to slow down the train.

Rudy-911-Giuliani is biting the dust from 30% to 16%
Pirated Corsairs
15-12-2007, 00:38
Because he's a creationist Hillary?

You forget who we're talking about. The Creationism probably helps him: Republicans don't like science; they prefer fairy tales.
Venndee
15-12-2007, 00:44
You forget who we're talking about. The Creationism probably helps him: Republicans don't like science; they prefer fairy tales.

...

Oh. Right.
OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 00:45
Desperate times in Iowa for the rest of the Republican Party :D

DES MOINES, Iowa, Dec. 11 (UPI) -- Mitt Romney, trying to stop Mike Huckabee's rise in the Republican presidential polls, released a 30-second TV ad on immigration Tuesday in Iowa.

The ad hit the airwaves the day before a Republican debate and a month before the Iowa caucuses, the first test of the candidates with the voters, McClatchy Newspapers reported.

The commercial starts out with praise of Huckabee, saying he and Romney are both "good family men" and that Huckabee opposes abortion, The New York Times said. But it then goes on to attack Huckabee for supporting tuition benefits and scholarships for illegal immigrants while he was governor of Arkansas.

Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, has invested a lot of time and money in Iowa. But a Rasmussen Poll released Tuesday gave Huckabee 39% of the vote at caucuses, with Romney trailing by 16% points. Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani is a distant third with 8%.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/12/11/romney_ad_takes_aim_at_huckabee/5286/
Agerias
15-12-2007, 00:53
I'm sorry, but in the right mind I can't vote for anyone who uses a dead internet fad to get votes.
OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 00:54
I'm sorry, but in the right mind I can't vote for anyone who uses a dead internet fad to get votes.who are you going to vote for?
Laerod
15-12-2007, 00:54
You forget who we're talking about. The Creationism probably helps him: Republicans don't like science; they prefer fairy tales.The Judge that ruled ID was Creationism in disguise in the Kitzmiller v. Dover District case was a republican.
Agerias
15-12-2007, 00:57
who are you going to vote for?
I'll tell you...

If you can tell me what those dang ## mean.
OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 00:57
Because he's a creationist Hillary?they are all Creationist Hilary-es on that Party... in-my-book© Hillary is a neocon.
.. except Ron Paul, but he does not have a shot.
Sel Appa
15-12-2007, 00:58
I should think Ron Paul would get ~100% in a believability poll...
Pirated Corsairs
15-12-2007, 00:59
The Judge that ruled ID was Creationism in disguise in the Kitzmiller v. Dover District case was a republican.

That's true, but there is an exception to every rule. In general, my statement still holds.
Laerod
15-12-2007, 01:00
That's true, but there is an exception to every rule. In general, my statement still holds.The Republican party is far to large to apply that kind of rule. Just because the Republican party has become the safe haven for those that prefer a biblical interpretation of the past to reality doesn't mean that this extends to everyone registered as or voting for a Republican.
OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 01:01
I'll tell you...

If you can tell me what those dang ## mean.You should read the NSG FAQ.. its a tag, to quick+ez find my threads.

Your turn to answer.
Laerod
15-12-2007, 01:04
You should read the NSG FAQ.. its a tag, to quick+ez find my threads.That made it into the FAQ? :eek:
OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 01:08
That made it into the FAQ? :eek:of course.

if the same question gets asked more than 1000 times, Jolt requires its set on the FAQ... to save bandwidth.
Laerod
15-12-2007, 01:10
of course.

if the same question gets asked more than 1000 times, Jolt requires its set on the FAQ... to save bandwidth.Now I know how I'm going to reach 16,000 posts =D
OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 01:12
Now I know how I'm going to reach 16,000 posts =Dohh thats a day to "roast" Laerod :D
The Black Forrest
15-12-2007, 01:27
You should read the NSG FAQ.. its a tag, to quick+ez find my threads.

Your turn to answer.

So!

If everybody started doing that, it would mess up your routine?

http://78.110.163.75/~markcook/imgs/smile/evilgrin/evilgrin0025.gif
Laerod
15-12-2007, 01:28
When I want to find threads I've started, I just post something, click on my name that appears next to the post and search for threads I've started.
OceanDrive2
15-12-2007, 02:31
So!

If everybody started doing that, it would mess up your routine?

http://78.110.163.75/~markcook/imgs/smile/evilgrin/evilgrin0025.gif

If everyone starts doing that? oh baby, I would love that :D
I would show NSG to my friends and point at how much influence I have around here ;)
Aishokuareno
15-12-2007, 02:48
I'm sorry, but in the right mind I can't vote for anyone who uses a dead internet fad to get votes.

I saw that commercial. My parents were scratching their heads, and I had to explain it to them.

Maybe his campaign directors are convinced that they have the die-hard super conservative republican's votes, so they're trying to spread out to different demographics.

I'm not voting for him, he's... too religously overzealous for my taste. In fact, it's scary.
Vetalia
15-12-2007, 03:39
If everyone starts doing that? oh baby, I would love that :D

I would show NSG to my friends and point at how much influence I have around here ;)

You're OceanDrive...how much higher can you go?
Tongass
15-12-2007, 03:46
If the Democrats think the Huckabee will be a particularly easy kill, they are mistaken. The mass media has a monetary interest in a close race, and won't permit a sizeable lead to either party.
Kyronea
15-12-2007, 03:47
You're OceanDrive...how much higher can you go?

He could become the next Lunatic Goofballs.

Anyway, this is some good news, because Huckabee is a fucking lunatic and seeing him nominated will guarantee a loss for the Republicans.
Elfli
15-12-2007, 05:28
So who exactly are the moderates for the Republican party?
Plotadonia
15-12-2007, 05:37
So who exactly are the moderates for the Republican party?

Mitt Romney would be the closest to a true moderate, as he's basically just a toned down mass-production model republican. However, Huckabee is considerably more liberal economically then most conservatives and allegedly a treehugger, while Giuliani is considerably to the left on social issues like abortion and McCain is a leftist when it comes to political issues like campaign finance reform. Ron Paul, of course, is an isolationist.

So basically, it comes down to your definition of a moderate. Is a moderate someone who disagrees with his party on things he doesn't think are right (Giuliani, Huck, Paul, and McCain) or someone who is not sure how they stand on anything (Romney).
Venndee
15-12-2007, 05:43
Ron Paul, of course, is an isolationist.

So basically, it comes down to your definition of a moderate. Is a moderate someone who disagrees with his party on things he doesn't think are right (Giuliani, Huck, Paul, and McCain) or someone who is not sure how they stand on anything (Romney).

The Republicans used to be less interventionist than they are now (at least in the 90's), so as to whether Ron Paul is to the 'left' of the candidates or outside of the Republican mainstream as concerns his non-interventionism is debatable.
Higher Austria
15-12-2007, 08:13
CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll

Can you give me the sample size and MOE for this data? I can never trust a poll without these two numbers. Thanks.
Delator
15-12-2007, 09:25
The voters might like him, but I'm sure the Republican party is cringing at the thought of Huckabee winning the nomination.

Huckabee's lead only stems from the church congregations. He won't win New Hampshire, and he's toast as the primaries stack up. He's also probably the only Republican candidate who can't draw enough moderates to win a national election.

If the Republican party wants to last as a political institution, sooner or later they are going to have to unhitch their wagon from fundamentalists. Sooner if they want the White House back in the next decade.
OceanDrive2
20-12-2007, 04:20
Can you give me the sample size and MOE for this data? I can never trust a poll without these two numbers. Thanks.You are right not to trust polls.

I dont have a clue as to were to find Moe.
all I can do is give you links.

This is the ABC polling Unit.
http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/