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I have an idea about torture

Kontor
14-12-2007, 22:55
Use it only on Torturers (excluding the punishers) and no-one else.
Fassitude
14-12-2007, 22:56
Use it only on Torturers (excluding the punishers)

Hypocritical debasement. Unsurprising.
IL Ruffino
14-12-2007, 22:58
Fail.
Call to power
14-12-2007, 22:58
I have an idea too lets not do it :eek:

Use it only on Torturers (excluding the punishers) and no-one else.

no because Torture does not and never will work

please pay attention to history it doesn't ask for much

Hypocritical debasement. Unsurprising.

words to large for me to understand. unsettling. :(
Kontor
14-12-2007, 23:01
I have an idea too lets not do it :eek:



no because Torture does not and never will work

please pay attention to history it doesn't ask for much



words to large for me to understand. unsettling. :(

I still say we should cut the head off of the terrorist who did the same to that reporter. A better idea would be whatever you inflict on others, you get the same.
Neo Art
14-12-2007, 23:01
Here's a better idea. Let's not. At all.
Neo Art
14-12-2007, 23:02
A better idea would be whatever you inflict on others, you get the same.

Or how about we recognize that if we call certain acts criminal, then that's a good reason not to do them to the same person?
Khadgar
14-12-2007, 23:02
I still say we should cut the head off of the terrorist who did the same to that reporter. A better idea would be whatever you inflict on others, you get the same.

So what's it like where you live? The third century BCE right?
The Atlantian islands
14-12-2007, 23:03
I still say we should cut the head off of the terrorist who did the same to that reporter. A better idea would be whatever you inflict on others, you get the same.
That idea has already been invented and not by Al Gore, but by Hamurabi thousands of years ago. It's called Hamurabi's Code.
The Parkus Empire
14-12-2007, 23:03
Here's a better idea. Let's not. At all.

Indeed. Why would we? Can someone give me one logical reason to, besides fulfilling their sadistic perversions under the guise of "justice"?
Swilatia
14-12-2007, 23:06
Better yet, we don't use it at all! After all, an eye for an eye is a flawed concept.
Uturn
14-12-2007, 23:07
Ooh!
An eye for an eye! Blood for blood! A limb for a limb!
Genocide for genocide!

Lets get biblical and go back to the dark ages shall we?
The Parkus Empire
14-12-2007, 23:11
Ooh!
An eye for an eye! Blood for blood! A limb for a limb!
Genocide for genocide!

Lets get biblical and go back to the dark ages shall we?

Crusades FTW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Maarat)!
Call to power
14-12-2007, 23:16
I still say we should cut the head off of the terrorist who did the same to that reporter. A better idea would be whatever you inflict on others, you get the same.

no because that still doesn't work and the equal is killing a terrorist reporter not some random executioner

then again I could just ask why cutting someones head off makes it all better in your mind, but I doubt you have thought that far ahead

Here's a better idea. Let's not. At all.

what if they really like it?
Pirated Corsairs
14-12-2007, 23:18
Use it only on Torturers (excluding the punishers) and no-one else.

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The Parkus Empire
14-12-2007, 23:26
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Yootopia
14-12-2007, 23:31
Use it only on Torturers (excluding the punishers) and no-one else.
I have an idea about you - yer a moron!
Call to power
14-12-2007, 23:32
http://th162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/deedee3373/friends%20comments/th_Fun_Cat_Caturday4.jpg

I have an idea about you - yer a moron!

often easily confused with Mormons
Yootopia
14-12-2007, 23:35
often easily confused with Mormons
They're synonyms.
The Parkus Empire
14-12-2007, 23:37
http://th162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/deedee3373/friends%20comments/th_Fun_Cat_Caturday4.jpg


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Call to power
14-12-2007, 23:42
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/excuse_me.jpg

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128347104606875000donttalktome.jpg
Isselmark
14-12-2007, 23:58
Use it only on Torturers (excluding the punishers) and no-one else.

While this thread has thus far failed to come up with anything beyond "no that's horrible eww", I believe there is at least a good expedient against it.

While I can see nothing objectively wrong with torturing them, in practise I think we need to heed Nietzsche here, although I believe it was Kant who first expressed a similar idea:

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Aphorism 146

Doing so would risk the corruption and debasement of the representative of justice. While there is no clear reason why this has to be the case, in practise, people being what they are, this would come to pass. So I'd prefer a simple execution (although that to a certain extent runs the same risks). Maybe it has to be prisons afterall.
Johnny B Goode
14-12-2007, 23:59
I still say we should cut the head off of the terrorist who did the same to that reporter. A better idea would be whatever you inflict on others, you get the same.

It'll just be a vicious cycle of die Rache.
[NS]Click Stand
15-12-2007, 00:02
Wait, i have an even better idea, lets torture animals!!!
Quagpit
15-12-2007, 00:05
Click Stand;13292428']Wait, i have an even better idea, lets torture animals!!!

especially young ones; kittens and puppies and the like.
Dundee-Fienn
15-12-2007, 00:11
It'll just be a vicious cycle of die Rache.

I'm probably being stupid but why the need for german?
[NS]Click Stand
15-12-2007, 00:11
especially young ones; kittens and puppies and the like.

We're on a roll. What's the next cutest thing on the list?
Johnny B Goode
15-12-2007, 00:12
I'm probably being stupid but why the need for german?

It sounded kinda classy, and I just felt like it.
Dundee-Fienn
15-12-2007, 00:14
It sounded kinda classy, and I just felt like it.

Groovy the classiness made me think I should know immediately in case I looked stupid :p
Londim
15-12-2007, 00:17
Click Stand;13292454']We're on a roll. What's the next cutest thing on the list?

Baby seals. *nod*
Pirated Corsairs
15-12-2007, 00:18
They're synonyms.
No, not all morons are Mormons.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128347104606875000donttalktome.jpg

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/hungry-hungry-lolcats.jpg
The Parkus Empire
15-12-2007, 00:22
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128347104606875000donttalktome.jpg

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cc35b3127cceb1bc040d984300000026100IYsmrNo2csf
Johnny B Goode
15-12-2007, 00:39
Groovy the classiness made me think I should know immediately in case I looked stupid :p

I heard in a Sherlock Holmes book.
Uturn
15-12-2007, 00:55
I think at this point this thread should be renamed to "LOLCATZ & IDIOCY GONE WILD"
Swilatia
15-12-2007, 01:05
I think at this point this thread should be renamed to "LOLCATZ & IDIOCY GONE WILD"

And it's not even page 5 yet...
Quagpit
15-12-2007, 01:13
Click Stand;13292454']We're on a roll. What's the next cutest thing on the list?

mmm....it's your turn. I won't chicken out until it is my turn. :p
Uturn
15-12-2007, 01:15
And it's not even page 5 yet...

You have to wonder what that says about the OP.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
15-12-2007, 01:25
This thread is leavin' in the morning this thread
This thread is leavin' in the morning
Great God a new day's dawning
This thread is leavin' in the morning this thread

This thread is bound for Spam. (apologies to Woody Guthrie)

My lolcat:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc215/Nobel_Hobos/InnanetIzM128421512838052500.jpg
Domici
15-12-2007, 03:21
Use it only on Torturers (excluding the punishers) and no-one else.

I'll go one further.

Only on torturers, by torturers.

Take one and strap him to a chair and tell the next one that the guy in the chair has information. Then let him go to town.

Then strap that second guy to a chair and show the first one video of the torture, then let him go to town.

Repeat until one of them dies. And lots of pairs to mix and match.
Call to power
15-12-2007, 03:25
http://www.mattcutts.com/images/ozzie-cutts-lolcat.jpg

I'll go one further.

Only on torturers, by torturers.

Take one and strap him to a chair and tell the next one that the guy in the chair has information. Then let him go to town.

Then strap that second guy to a chair and show the first one video of the torture, then let him go to town.

Repeat until one of them dies. And lots of pairs to mix and match.

all we need is time travel and at least someone dies happy (or do they?) ;)
Kontor
15-12-2007, 03:40
While this thread has thus far failed to come up with anything beyond "no that's horrible eww", I believe there is at least a good expedient against it.

While I can see nothing objectively wrong with torturing them, in practise I think we need to heed Nietzsche here, although I believe it was Kant who first expressed a similar idea:



Doing so would risk the corruption and debasement of the representative of justice. While there is no clear reason why this has to be the case, in practise, people being what they are, this would come to pass. So I'd prefer a simple execution (although that to a certain extent runs the same risks). Maybe it has to be prisons afterall.

You are the first person to actually come up with a REAL reason why not, and I have to admit, a pretty good one. You are right I guess, a clean quick offing would be much better. I just watched a movie about terrorists and there torture methods and it got me mad so I posted without thinking as they say.
Call to power
15-12-2007, 03:43
You are the first person to actually come up with a REAL reason why not, and I have to admit, a pretty goood one. You are right I guess, a clean quick offing would be much better. I just watched a movie about terrorists and there torture methods and it got me mad so I posted without thinking as they say.

didn't you ever read 1984 (as much as I hate to reference that) in which they crush the soul first and such?
Pirated Corsairs
15-12-2007, 03:48
Hey! stop hijacking this thread, torture people!
This thread is about lolcats, get your own! :mad:

Oh, and:
http://www.artfagcity.com/wordpress_core/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/original_lolcat3.jpg
CthulhuFhtagn
15-12-2007, 04:37
Eye for an eye is a bad idea.

However, blood for the Blood God and skulls for the Skull Throne are A-OK.
Neo Art
15-12-2007, 04:42
Eye for an eye is a bad idea.

However, blood for the Blood God and skulls for the Skull Throne are A-OK.

For *cough* Nurgle! *cough*
New Limacon
15-12-2007, 05:01
Torturer torture? That sounds like it would make the CIA, al-Quaida, and other paramilitary groups rapidly descend into S&M clubs.