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Drug report hits Clemens the hardest
54 minutes ago

NEW YORK - Page after page, Roger Clemens' name was all over the Mitchell Report. Count them, 82 times. Barry Bonds showed up more often. So did Jose Canseco. Andy Pettitte, Eric Gagne and Miguel Tejada also became part of baseball's most infamous lineup since the 1919 Black Sox scandal. But they didn't get the worst of it Thursday. That infamy belonged to Clemens, the greatest pitcher of his era. The Steroids Era.

"Those who have illegally used these substances range from players whose major league careers were brief to potential members of the Baseball Hall of Fame," former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell wrote in his much-anticipated report on performance-enhancing drugs.

"They include both pitchers and position players, and their backgrounds are as diverse as those of all major league players."

Seven MVPs, two Cy Young Award winners and 31 All-Stars — one for every position.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071214/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_mitchell_report
Click Stand;13219377']yeah I've just about had enough of the "I didn't know I was being given steroids"he didnt know :D
.Hall of Fame chances approaching 0.Is he going to cry at the Larry King Show?
If he cries on Live TV.. I say we give him a Grammy or something :D

Oh, let's be fair:

Roger Clemens and 87 other Major League Baseball players are ACCUSED steroid cheaters.

Did they do it? Probably. But there hasn't been a trial, now, has there?

Oh, let's be fair:

Roger Clemens and 87 other Major League Baseball players are ACCUSED steroid cheaters.

Did they do it? Probably. But there hasn't been a trial, now, has there?oups.. are you a Roger Clemens fan?

The players named as having used performance enhancement drugs:

Barry Bonds
Jeremy Giambi
Jason Giambi
Armando Ríos
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Randy Velarde
Chad Allen
Mike Bell
Gary Bennett
Larry Bigbie
Kevin Brown
Mark Carreon
Jason Christiansen
Roger Clemens
Jack Cust
Chris Donnels
Lenny Dykstra
Matt Franco
Ryan Franklin
Éric Gagné
Jason Grimsley
Jerry Hairston, Jr.
Matt Herges
Phil Hiatt
Glenallen Hill
Todd Hundley
David Justice
Chuck Knoblauch
Tim Laker
Mike Lansing
Paul Lo Duca
Nook Logan
Josias Manzanillo
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Bart Miadich
Hal Morris
Denny Neagle
Jim Parque
Andy Pettitte
Adam Piatt
Todd Pratt
Stephen Randolph
Adam Riggs
Brian Roberts
F.P. Santangelo
David Segui
Mike Stanton
Miguel Tejada
Mo Vaughn
Ron Villone
Fernando Viña
Rondell White
Jeff Williams
Todd Williams
Kevin Young
Gregg Zaun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_named_in_the_Mitchell_Report

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. *nod*

Interesting:
4 minutes ago The Yahoo HUB has changed the title/Page of the mitchell_report link.

From: [MLB drug report hits Clemens the hardest]
to: [Clemens, Bonds, Tejada named in report]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071214/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_mitchell_report

No Mariners on that list. No wonder we can't get to the World Series.

Honestly, is anyone genuinely surprised by this news?

No Mariners on that list. No wonder we can't get to the World Series.

Honestly, is anyone genuinely surprised by this news?

I'm surprised that there are no World Series (or a similar event) where there is no drug scanning at all. That would be fun. Good TV too.

If everyone doses, is it really cheating any more?

Besides, People don't give a rat's ass about baseball for the sake of baseball, they want to see people hit stuff out of the park. To be put in the general public's "hall of fame" you either have to be an extremely awesome pitcher or a massive heavy hitter. There is pressure to beat previous records and what fields being bigged, it is harder to hit them out of the park which just encourages the use of performance enhancing drugs.

I'm surprised that there are no World Series (or a similar event) where there is no drug scanning at all. That would be fun. Good TV too.

American Gladiators!!!!!

The reason the steroids charges seem very NY centric is the majority of illegal activities information was from a NY Mets clubhouse attendent and from a steroids lab in Albany NY. As the report states, there are many sources of steroids in Baseball this just happens to be the sources Mitchel was able to tap for the investigation. It doesnt mean this is a complete list of the cheaters nor that NY players are any more prone to this then any other team.

oups.. are you a Roger Clemens fan?

HELL NO. He's a Yankee, isn't he? :D

Interesting:
4 minutes ago The Yahoo HUB has changed the title/Page of the mitchell_report link.

From: [MLB drug report hits Clemens the hardest]
to: [Clemens, Bonds, Tejada named in report]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071214/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_mitchell_report

Prolly for the same reason I stated: Let's be fair, it ain't only him.

The reason the steroids charges seem very NY centric is the majority of illegal activities information was from a NY Mets clubhouse attendent and from a steroids lab in Albany NY. As the report states, there are many sources of steroids in Baseball this just happens to be the sources Mitchel was able to tap for the investigation. It doesnt mean this is a complete list of the cheaters nor that NY players are any more prone to this then any other team.I agree..
(My guess is)
I say 70-90% of current MLB players have used some enhancing products.
Just like Armstrong and the top Cycling pros

One thing that interests me is that some Hall of Famers were cheaters. Ty Cobb's base stealing wasn't always the nicest, and Whitey Ford would scuff up the ball. Both are in the hall and no one is questioning what they did..

The players named as having used performance enhancement drugs:
Gary Sheffield
David Justice
Kent Mercker
Denny Neagle
Mike Stanton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_named_in_the_Mitchell_Report

That's what the problem with the Braves has been... We didn't keep enough of the players that DID use steroids.

How did John Rocker not make the list?

The whole not getting into the Hall of Fame thing is really also a whole lot of nonsence. Pete Rose crys about not being in the Hall of Fame when in truth his name is plastered all over the place in the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown. The only thing he doesnt have is his head on a bust in one room of the Museum. Gee how will he ever get by?

That's what the problem with the Braves has been... We didn't keep enough of the players that DID use steroids.

How did John Rocker not make the list?

I thought Rocker was on it?

I thought Rocker was on it?

Apparently, he did. He just didn't make the list that was posted here.

oups.. are you a Roger Clemens fan?

You don't have to have a personal interest in a case to want to uphold the philosophy of innocent until proven guilty.

You don't have to have a personal interest in a case to want to uphold the philosophy of innocent until proven guilty.You dont have to.. but it helps :D