Pills for everyone!
Call to power
13-12-2007, 00:33
'No prescription' needed for Pill
The contraceptive pill is to be given out by pharmacists without prescription in a new pilot scheme, the minister in charge of reviewing health care says.
Lord Darzi said the government would work with chemists to ensure "robust standards" and appropriate training.
The pill is currently only available with a prescription, but pharmacies are able to dispense "the morning after pill" without a doctor's signature.
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The UK has the highest teenage birth rates in Western Europe - about twice as high as in Germany, three times as high as in France and six times as high as in the Netherlands.
Lady Finlay said chemists were fully capable of ensuring whether the contraceptive pill was right for a patient, and what type would suit her best.
But she warned: "It's absolutely essential however, that this initiative is part of a comprehensive and holistic approach to broaden women's access to all 14 methods of contraception and not just the pill.
"Otherwise women will find their contraceptive choices greatly diminished, rather than greatly enhanced."
The contraceptive pill was introduced in this country in 1961, and is used by about 4m women.
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7141031.stm)
Anyways I thought we had this anyway but I guess that just shows how much of a bunch of savages we still are....
anyways I think it time we had a contraception thread for NSG: what types do you use? funny in/experiences? obligatory Nazi who will keep me up till 4 in the morning? and finally do you think this is good (which it is)?
I think this is very good but doesn't go far enough, I want condoms in play school! and my preference is Tingle Durex (reminds me of the paint dog :)) just because the rival is Trojan which to be honest isn't a name I trust to allow me into the gates
Greater Trostia
13-12-2007, 00:42
When you think about it, the Pill is nothing but an advanced version of towel technology.
Snafturi
13-12-2007, 00:48
On one hand it prevents pregnancy which is good. On the other hand women don't have to go in for their annual exam to get the pill which means lots of STDs, infections, ect will go untreated.
Call to power
13-12-2007, 00:55
On one hand it prevents pregnancy which is good. On the other hand women don't have to go in for their annual exam to get the pill which means lots of STDs, infections, ect will go untreated.
on the other hand, women will have more pressure to use it (not bad really unless they decide that they no longer need to use condoms now) this worries me because I've known plenty of women who have very adverse affects to it
though to be honest the idea that contraception needs a doctors note is more silly than the chances of people made stupidity
Tagmatium
13-12-2007, 00:58
Crap. Wrong sort of pill...
Call to power
13-12-2007, 01:05
Crap. Wrong sort of pill...
I wonder what happens when you take them :confused:
Snafturi
13-12-2007, 01:06
on the other hand, women will have more pressure to use it (not bad really unless they decide that they no longer need to use condoms now) this worries me because I've known plenty of women who have very adverse affects to it
though to be honest the idea that contraception needs a doctors note is more silly than the chances of people made stupidity
There's so many types of pills out there. If one doesn't work they can try another. There's very low dose pills now. Most women can find a pill that works. If not a pill, there's other options.
There should be pressure to use birth control if you're sexually active unless you are intentionally trying to get pregnant. I don't know where the disconnect is in people's minds on that issue. No birth control + sex = pregnancy. Condoms are a backup method of birth control only.
Rasselas
13-12-2007, 01:47
Hmmm. Well the advantages are pretty clear, lower teenage pregnancy rates for one. But the pill does have side effects. When I go to get my prescription, the doctor always takes my blood pressure, and asks a few questions (the main one being "do you smoke?").
Lady Finlay said chemists were fully capable of ensuring whether the contraceptive pill was right for a patient, and what type would suit her best.
What type would suit her best? With doctors, the pill prescribed can be hit-or-miss (I tried several before I found one that worked properly for me). So how can the chemist know? Tbh, I don't want to be going into the pharmacy and explain in front of the other customers why the pills they gave me don't work. I'd much rather do that in the privacy of a doctors office.
And another thing...will they cost anything? They're free on prescription.
Snafturi
13-12-2007, 01:50
And another thing...will they cost anything? They're free on prescription.
That's something that does worry me.
There are FOURTEEN methods of contraception?!
Sel Appa
13-12-2007, 02:10
I hate birth control pills. Can't people use condoms or just abstain. People shouldn't be taking unnecessary chemicals and hormones so often.
Call to power
13-12-2007, 02:12
There are FOURTEEN methods of contraception?!
I'm willing to be more is out there you just gotta look hard
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/20/IUDCPCopperT380A.gif
though I should have no jurisdiction on what a woman does with her vagina long term I do ask that she not be stupid enough to use these
And another thing...will they cost anything? They're free on prescription.
They are? Awesome. They aren't here in Germany.
I do, of course, laud the effort the lower teen pregnancies, but I have the suspicion that with the pill, it's not that much that the kids don't go to get a prescription, but don't bother with (that sort of) protection at all on general principles, and therefore this move wouldn't help much.
In addition, I mostly share the concerns already voiced in this thread: Will the women be sure to get sufficient counseling as to which pill to get? As to what to do, and not to do, when on the pill?
Risottia
13-12-2007, 11:04
Condoms are a backup method of birth control only.
Still they're the best way to prevent sexually-transmitted diseases. Not just AIDS - hepatitis, gonorrhea, clamydia, herpes viruses...
Lunatic Goofballs
13-12-2007, 11:06
Still they're the best way to prevent sexually-transmitted diseases. Not just AIDS - hepatitis, gonorrhea, clamydia, herpes viruses...
ANd they make great makeshift balloons. :)
Risottia
13-12-2007, 11:48
ANd they make great makeshift balloons. :)
It's just what I said to my first girlfriend ... just to relax the tension of the first time. It worked. ;)
ANd they make great makeshift balloons. :)
Few things are funnier than wearing and inflating a condom while it's on your head. No, not that head. The head with the nose and mouth and eyes.
Snafturi
13-12-2007, 17:59
There are FOURTEEN methods of contraception?!
There sure are.
Still they're the best way to prevent sexually-transmitted diseases. Not just AIDS - hepatitis, gonorrhea, clamydia, herpes viruses...
They're the only option. They don't neccesarily protect you against herpes and HPV BTW.
I hate birth control pills. Can't people use condoms or just abstain. People shouldn't be taking unnecessary chemicals and hormones so often.
And how many pills have you tried? What about all the benefits? And what exactly is wrong with the other 13 methods?
Condoms are a back up method of birth control only.
Abstainance? Are you kidding me? Why should women have to abstain when there's 13 perfectly good methods of birth control out there. Some actually have health benefits.
Hydesland
13-12-2007, 18:17
Oh, I thought Manchester had just invaded. Oh well, know happy pills after all.