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5 Year Old Kills Bear

1010102
12-12-2007, 04:43
In Arkansas a 5 year old killed a bear. The kid is a descendant of Davey Crockett, who reportedly killed a bear when he was 3. I say good job, kid. To be that good of shot at 5 is a very good and handle the recoil is something that is amazing to me. Thoughts?


Link (http://www.katv.com/news/stories/1207/479365.html)
Bann-ed
12-12-2007, 04:45
Praising young human vermin when they fire a projectile into an unsuspecting animal while safely sitting in a tree?

What's next?
Abortion? Gay marriage? Civil rights?
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 04:47
In Arkansas you have to learn to hunt at a young age. That and the possum traps may be your only hope for nutrition for the week. But i guess it beats the alternative, learning to read.
Jeruselem
12-12-2007, 04:49
I'm no fan of hunting but this kid will be very skilled hunter when he grows up. I guess it's all the genes there.
The South Islands
12-12-2007, 04:54
Dayum...that's one epic shot. That kid's going to be good when he grows up.

Mad props to him.
Katganistan
12-12-2007, 04:55
In Arkansaw a 5 year old killed a bear. The kid is a descendant of Davey Crockett, who reportedly killed a bear when he was 3. I say good job, kid. To be that good of shot at 5 is a very good and handle the recoil is something that is amazing to me. Thoughts?


Link (http://www.katv.com/news/stories/1207/479365.html)

Psst. It's Arkansas.
1010102
12-12-2007, 04:58
Psst. It's Arkansas.

What did you expect? I'm an American.:p
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2007, 05:13
Praising young human vermin when they fire a projectile into an unsuspecting animal while safely sitting in a tree?

What's next?
Abortion? Gay marriage? Civil rights?

Um, people aren't safe from bears while in a tree, because bears can climb, too.
Bann-ed
12-12-2007, 05:14
Um, people aren't safe from bears while in a tree, because bears can climb, too.

True, it was a black bear.

They better have eaten that thing though..
The South Islands
12-12-2007, 05:31
True, it was a black bear.

They better have eaten that thing though..

Bearmeat is very good, but I find it a little greasy for my taste.
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2007, 05:33
They better have eaten that thing though..

I agree, but according to the article, they were planning a life size taxidermy mount. Since I haven't ever hunted before, I don't know they can harvest the meat AND have a life size mount made too. I might just have to contact a taxidermist just to find out (otherwise, the question will bug me for weeks).
HSH Prince Eric
12-12-2007, 05:33
Look at all the jerk-offs that showed up from nowhere to leave a bunch of negative comments about the kid. Was this posted earlier here?
Bann-ed
12-12-2007, 05:37
I agree, but according to the article, they were planning a life size taxidermy mount. Since I haven't ever hunted before, I don't know they can harvest the meat AND have a life size mount made too. I might just have to contact a taxidermist just to find out (otherwise, the question will bug me for weeks).
I am pretty sure they have to remove organs and such, including meat, from the animal before taxiderminizing it.

Look at all the jerk-offs that showed up from nowhere to leave a bunch of negative comments about the kid. Was this posted earlier here?
He shot a bear. Good job?
Why didn't I think of that?
I am going to make sure I get my son a gun and teach him to shoot at animals, so he can become a legendary shot by age 5 and help decrease those damn bears that encroach on our land.
Katganistan
12-12-2007, 05:41
What did you expect? I'm an American.:p

So'm I.

Bearmeat is very good, but I find it a little greasy for my taste.

Don't you have to cut it with other meat?
I had bear sausage once, and yeah, it was a bit greasy, but I think they mixed in some beef to help with that...
Bann-ed
12-12-2007, 05:43
So'm I.

That is no excuse for pointing out the mistakes other people make while ignoring your own. *livid glare of doom*

Actually.. that fits quite well with America.
Katganistan
12-12-2007, 05:48
I agree, but according to the article, they were planning a life size taxidermy mount. Since I haven't ever hunted before, I don't know they can harvest the meat AND have a life size mount made too. I might just have to contact a taxidermist just to find out (otherwise, the question will bug me for weeks).

I believe you can -- they stretched the cured skin over a fiberglass or stuffed form -- they wouldn't need the meat for that.

Look at all the jerk-offs that showed up from nowhere to leave a bunch of negative comments about the kid. Was this posted earlier here?

Look at the one person flaming over, what, ONE negative comment? Did you even read the thread before your knee jerked that hard?

That is no excuse for pointing out the mistakes other people make while ignoring your own. *livid glare of doom*

Actually.. that fits quite well with America.

Ok, I guess I'm just not seeing it. To which error of mine are you referring?
The South Islands
12-12-2007, 05:50
Don't you have to cut it with other meat?
I had bear sausage once, and yeah, it was a bit greasy, but I think they mixed in some beef to help with that...

My grandfather lives in Tennessee, and he got a permit a few years ago. So he sent some sausage up to us. I'm not sure exactly what was in it. Spices, obviously, but as far as other meat goes, I'm clueless.

When I get my Bear permit (hopefully before 2040), I'll try cutting it with other meats. I wonder if turkey would be good in it?
Vandal-Unknown
12-12-2007, 05:55
(Tre Merritt, Five-year-old Hunter) "I was up in the stand and I seen the bear. It came from the thicket and it was beside the road and I shot it."

One shot at 40-50 yards? This kid really knows how to handle his weapon. Killing deers are easy, but a hulking mucle bound 445 pounds of claws and teeth, no so much.

One a side note: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, PEDOBEAAAAAR!
Araraukar
12-12-2007, 05:56
Bear meat has a rather strong taste, but it's not necessarily 'required' of you to use other meats with it.

As for the kid hunter... 5 years olds with firearms - WTF?!?!?!? :confused: :eek:
No wonder there's always news of gunmen going nuts in the States and shooting a bunch of people... >_>
The South Islands
12-12-2007, 05:58
As for the kid hunter... 5 years olds with firearms - WTF?!?!?!? :confused: :eek:
No wonder there's always news of gunmen going nuts in the States and shooting a bunch of people... >_>

Best teach them proper firearms use and safety while they're young.
HSH Prince Eric
12-12-2007, 06:01
Katgan, I was talking about the website. There is over 60 comments and it seems like all of them are negative insults from people that don't live anywhere around the area.
Bann-ed
12-12-2007, 06:02
Ok, I guess I'm just not seeing it. To which error of mine are you referring?

I may be wrong, but to my knowledge, So'm, is not a proper contraction. :p
Upper Botswavia
12-12-2007, 06:03
Best teach them proper firearms use and safety while they're young.

On the other hand, my parents taught me firearm safety very clearly. They said "DON'T USE GUNS."

So far, I have not had one single gun accident. And I would say my chances are excellent of never having one.
The South Islands
12-12-2007, 06:12
On the other hand, my parents taught me firearm safety very clearly. They said "DON'T USE GUNS."

So far, I have not had one single gun accident. And I would say my chances are excellent of never having one.

You live in a different society with different values and ways of expressing those values. Your society does not condone firearm possession and use. Mine (which is similar to the child's) does. The differences do not make one society superior, they just make them different.

So, congratulations, you will never have to learn about firearm safety if you never handle a firearm. But, you will never have a chance to experience the (IMHO) fun of using a firearm.
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2007, 06:21
On the other hand, my parents taught me firearm safety very clearly. They said "DON'T USE GUNS."

So far, I have not had one single gun accident. And I would say my chances are excellent of never having one.

When I was a kid, my parents never taught me firearms safety either (because we didn't have any firearms in the house). Yet, I've never had an accident with a firearm either, even though I do use them (somebody has to keep those damn paper targets from fomenting revolution :p). And my chances of never having a firearms accident are excellent too, because when I'm at home, I always check my firearm's chamber when I handle it, I keep it unloaded, on safe, and locked up. When I've got it at the range, I keep my finger off the trigger, keep the chamber empty, and keep my firearm on safe except when I'm prepared to fire. I also make sure not to point my firearm at anyone/anything I'm not prepared to kill/destroy, no matter if the firearm is ready to fire or not.
Katganistan
12-12-2007, 06:24
I may be wrong, but to my knowledge, So'm, is not a proper contraction. :p

It's a bit of creative license, indeed. And irony ftw.
HSH Prince Eric
12-12-2007, 06:25
I never needed to be taught firearm safety. Not pointing the barrel at myself or anyone, making sure it was on safety, keeping it clean and checking the ammunition just seemed like common sense even at that age.
Bann-ed
12-12-2007, 06:43
It's a bit of creative license, indeed. And irony ftw.

Aye, which is why I said what I did.
Unless you are implying there is something wrong with my post and hence the irony is derived from me....*paranoia sensor goes off*
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 06:50
One shot at 40-50 yards? This kid really knows how to handle his weapon. Killing deers are easy, but a hulking mucle bound 445 pounds of claws and teeth, no so much.


Meh point and squeeze a trigger and thing on other end usually dies it you hit it solidly enough, deer, bear or otherwise.
The South Islands
12-12-2007, 06:53
Meh point and squeeze a trigger and thing on other end usually dies it you hit it solidly enough, deer, bear or otherwise.

A little harder then that, champ. It takes mad skill to place a shot like that.
Bann-ed
12-12-2007, 06:56
Meh point and squeeze a trigger and thing on other end usually dies it you hit it solidly enough, deer, bear or otherwise.
You cannot shoot it in the rear leg and expect it to keel over. Well, you could, but that would be called idealism.. We hate idealists. I even drink their blood after a good dipping into the glass of pessimism.

A little harder then that, champ. It takes mad skill to place a shot like that.

Agreed.
The South Islands
12-12-2007, 06:57
You cannot shoot it in the rear leg and expect it to keel over. Well, you could, but that would be called idealism.. We hate idealists. I even drink their blood after a good dipping into the glass of pessimism.


You hit a bear (or a moose or any large game) in the leg, it's bound to get ever so pissed.
Vandal-Unknown
12-12-2007, 06:59
Meh point and squeeze a trigger and thing on other end usually dies it you hit it solidly enough, deer, bear or otherwise.

Yeah, but considering the weight and the calibre of a rifle (plus ammo) that can take down a bear in one shot versus the kid's muscle mass, I'd say it's an amazing feat.

Let alone handling the adrenaline rush that makes the veins in your head go bumpity bump when you're stalking a target.

I say this because I came from a society that is estranged to guns,... knives and machettes not so much.
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 07:03
A little harder then that, champ. It takes mad skill to place a shot like that.

How do you figure? 40 yards is virtually point blank range for a rifle.
The South Islands
12-12-2007, 07:06
How do you figure? 40 yards is virtually point blank range for a rifle.

Have you ever shot a rifle? Shooting is not point, squeeze, and boom like it is on Counterstrike. Firing from any position requires skill, concentration, and a little luck. And considering that this kid was 5, his shot was a fantastically good one.
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 07:09
Have you ever shot a rifle? Shooting is not point, squeeze, and boom like it is on Counterstrike. Firing from any position requires skill, concentration, and a little luck. And considering that this kid was 5, his shot was a fantastically good one.

Yes that is why im saying with authority that 40 yards for a rifle is indeed point blank range. If you cant hit a target the size of a bear at that distance you have no business holding a loaded gun.
Novus-America
12-12-2007, 07:09
*sits back and waits until this turns into the inevitable gun control debate*
Mirkai
12-12-2007, 07:11
They say hunting is a right of manhood.

Therefore, I propose that this boy should now be considered a legal adult.
The South Islands
12-12-2007, 07:20
Yes that is why im saying with authority that 40 yards for a rifle is indeed point blank range. If you cant hit a target the size of a bear at that distance you have no business holding a loaded gun.

For an adult with experience, perhaps.

For a 5 year old kid? No way. He was lucky and skillful. I couldn't hit a bear not in profile at 50 yards in the head when I was his age.
Gauthier
12-12-2007, 07:25
Descendant of Davy Crockett huh? Let's see if the kid can do as well against Mexican Bears.
KneelBeforeZod
12-12-2007, 07:29
In Arkansas a 5 year old killed a bear. The kid is a descendant of Davey Crockett, who reportedly killed a bear when he was 3. I say good job, kid. To be that good of shot at 5 is a very good and handle the recoil is something that is amazing to me. Thoughts?


Link (http://www.katv.com/news/stories/1207/479365.html)

WHO IS this "Davy Crockett"? WHO is this "5 year old"? He killed a bear, did he? It seems he is stronger than most of you humans, but surely he cannot be as strong as General Zod! Come to me, 5 year old, if you dare (and I suspect you do dare)! Come! Come and kneel before Zod!...ZOD!

(*flies off in search of Davy Crockett and the bear-killing "5 year old"*)
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2007, 07:43
WHO IS this "Davy Crockett"? WHO is this "5 year old"? He killed a bear, did he? It seems he is stronger than most of you humans, but surely he cannot be as strong as General Zod! Come to me, 5 year old, if you dare (and I suspect you do dare)! Come! Come and kneel before Zod!...ZOD!

(*flies off in search of Davy Crockett and the bear-killing "5 year old"*)

Yeah, that's not getting old real quick. :rolleyes:
Nobel Hobos
12-12-2007, 09:29
Look at all the jerk-offs that showed up from nowhere to leave a bunch of negative comments about the kid. Was this posted earlier here?

Here's one more. Teaching a kid to kill for fun is pathetic.

I find no fault with the kid. A five-year-old is not responsible for his own actions. He was taught to do that. His dad has plainly rewarded him with positive attention for learning to shoot, and now he parades his kid in front of the world as "better than Davy Crocket."

Daddy is an asshole. Sadly, the kid will probably grow up much the same.
Heikoku
12-12-2007, 13:19
So far, I have not had one single gun accident. And I would say my chances are excellent of never having one.

Unless, of course, you're AROUND gun nuts, because, unfortunately, gun accidents don't happen only to their CAUSE.
Rambhutan
12-12-2007, 13:43
*waits for the first kindergarten shooting carried out by a five year old because they wouldn't let him play with the rocking horse*
Naturality
12-12-2007, 13:46
Now Paw-paw needs to teach him to use a bow.. or maybe he's still too young for that yet.

My great nephew has been hunting with his grand pa (my bro-in-law) since he was pretty young. I'll have to find out how old he was first time he killed game. I doubt he was as young as 5 tho.
Naturality
12-12-2007, 13:50
A little harder then that, champ. It takes mad skill to place a shot like that.


I've talked to hunters who say their adrenaline goes nuts when they are about to shoot game. I'm thinking by this kid being so young .. he didn't get that and it helped him make a good shot. I best his grand pa's heart was just a thumping tho.
Cycolar
12-12-2007, 14:02
In Arkansas you have to learn to hunt at a young age. That and the possum traps may be your only hope for nutrition for the week. But i guess it beats the alternative, learning to read.

Shush .You know nothing about Arkansas. My granny lives there and nobody on her street can hunt
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 15:17
Shush .You know nothing about Arkansas. My granny lives there and nobody on her street can hunt

.... or read.
Nobel Hobos
12-12-2007, 16:09
.... or read.

And that's good. Or else, they'd read this and hunt us.
Vojvodina-Nihon
12-12-2007, 17:24
For those who are going to comment on it being Arkansas, the hinterland is much the same all across the US. You can find game-hunting rednecks in California and in Maine; it's not just a Southern thing. Wherever there are wild animals, there are men with guns and dogs keeping their populations in check.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2007, 17:28
Wherever there are wild animals, there are men with guns and dogs keeping their populations in check.

And drunken men with guns and dogs to keep their population in check. ;)
Neo Art
12-12-2007, 17:32
And drunken men with guns and dogs to keep their population in check. ;)

and behind them...is Dick Cheney.
Vojvodina-Nihon
12-12-2007, 17:40
and behind them...is Dick Cheney.

Ewww... bad mental image. <.<
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2007, 17:49
and behind them...is Dick Cheney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6ene75RM3w

:)
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 18:17
Wherever there are wild animals, there are men with guns and dogs keeping their populations in check.

So sayeth the Buffalo.



And since when did the bear population need checking in Arkansas? Are people down there getting mugged daily by rampant unchecked bears with picnic baskets??
Fleckenstein
12-12-2007, 18:26
And since when did the bear population need checking in Arkansas? Are people down there getting mugged daily by rampant unchecked bears with picnic baskets??

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e142/leftyflecken/DeadeyeDick.jpg
Yootopia
12-12-2007, 18:35
Bloody disgrace. Absolutely bloody digrace.

"Woohoo, my child started killing bears at 3"

Bunch of hicks.
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2007, 18:45
To those of you that are calling this family hicks or rednecks, and saying that this hunt was disgraceful, do you have a problem with this because the kid was only 5, or because of the hunting?
Lunatic Goofballs
12-12-2007, 18:50
To those of you that are calling this family hicks or rednecks, and saying that this hunt was disgraceful, do you have a problem with this because the kid was only 5, or because of the hunting?

If I have a problem with it at all, it's with it being newsworthy. Or glorified. Probably the hardest part of hunting with a five year old is keeping him quiet long enough to sneak up on a bear. :p
[NS]Rolling squid
12-12-2007, 18:56
If I have a problem with it at all, it's with it being newsworthy. Or glorified. Probably the hardest part of hunting with a five year old is keeping him quiet long enough for the bear to sneak up on him :p

fixed, the kid was standhunting, which is boring as fuck.
I hunt, mostly deer, but I use a muzzleloader and go looking for them. Just sitting around in a tree all day takes no skill, and as shown, a five year old could do it.
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 18:56
To those of you that are calling this family hicks or rednecks, and saying that this hunt was disgraceful, do you have a problem with this because the kid was only 5, or because of the hunting?

Both. Teaching a 5 year old to kill anything is very disturbing to me as is hunting bears for sport. Noone is running around eating bear steak. Its an animal hunted primarily for fun and to profit from fur sales. Its not a keep the heard healthy issue, like is is for deer, its a selfish explotaion of natural resources. If you need extra money that badly im sure McDonalds is hiring, you dont need to kill a wild animal to strip his skin off so you can cash out on it.
Yootopia
12-12-2007, 18:56
To those of you that are calling this family hicks or rednecks, and saying that this hunt was disgraceful, do you have a problem with this because the kid was only 5, or because of the hunting?
Both, really.
Linstan
12-12-2007, 18:59
"If I have a problem with it at all, it's with it being newsworthy. Or glorified. Probably the hardest part of hunting with a five year old is keeping him quiet long enough to sneak up on a bear. "

The only news here is that he was 5 years old.

The caliber of gun was most certainly not a .22. This was probably something like a 30.06 or bigger. If you have not shot a gun that big, let me tell you, even shotguns don't kick that much more. And the rifles have a very direct kick. Good shot kid! (But is hunting a Bear really necessary? Maybe it is. As long as they are not endangered, that is my only concern as far as wildlife on this story. Bears are pretty rare in most parts of the country. I am a little concerned about safety too, I hope the parent was very nearby. (Like right next to this kid. Because 5years old is almost too young to be shooting guns even for a properly trained young shooter.)
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2007, 18:59
Both. Teaching a 5 year old to kill anything is very disturbing to me as is hunting bears for sport. Noone is running around eating bear steak. Its an animal hunted primarily for fun and to profit from fur sales. Its not a keep the heard healthy issue, like is is for deer, its a selfish explotaion of natural resources. If you need extra money that badly im sure McDonalds is hiring, you dont need to kill a wild animal to strip his skin off so you can cash out on it.

As has been said earlier in the thread, some people still have to hunt for sustenance. Also, may I direct your attention here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=bear+recipes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Yootopia
12-12-2007, 19:02
As has been said earlier in the thread, some people still have to hunt for sustenance. Also, may I direct your attention here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=bear+recipes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
I'm sure that bear is delicious, in the same way as a condor egg omelette would probably be superb.

On the other hand, it just seems like a bit of a waste of... well... a bear. Shooting it essentially for the kicks and giggles, because, let's be honest, a five year old isn't going to be doing the family's hunting for sustainance, especially if they're out hunting bear, just seems like a bit of a waste.
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 19:08
As has been said earlier in the thread, some people still have to hunt for sustenance. Also, may I direct your attention here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=bear+recipes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Are you suggesting that most bears hunted are eaten instead of mounted or stripped for its fur only? I support hunting bears for meat but i suspect this is the actual purpose for a very small % of bear deaths. I mean im sure i could google you a recipie for Rat meat something but i wouldnt suggest that the majority of Rats killed are used for meat.
Naturality
12-12-2007, 19:37
I'd hope the meat from the animals killed are eaten .. even if not by the one who killed it. The folks I know that hunt usually give a lot of it away to friends, family etc to be cooked.
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2007, 20:43
Are you suggesting that most bears hunted are eaten instead of mounted or stripped for its fur only? I support hunting bears for meat but i suspect this is the actual purpose for a very small % of bear deaths. I mean im sure i could google you a recipie for Rat meat something but i wouldnt suggest that the majority of Rats killed are used for meat.

I'm merely suggesting that your statement of "Noone is running around eating bear steak" is not correct.
Roanoke Island
12-12-2007, 20:48
I dont even know what to say about this article.:headbang:
Gun Manufacturers
12-12-2007, 20:49
I'm sure that bear is delicious, in the same way as a condor egg omelette would probably be superb.

On the other hand, it just seems like a bit of a waste of... well... a bear. Shooting it essentially for the kicks and giggles, because, let's be honest, a five year old isn't going to be doing the family's hunting for sustainance, especially if they're out hunting bear, just seems like a bit of a waste.

Well, he did get 3 deer last year (according to the article, although there's no mention of the sizes of the ones he got). Three deer and a bear sounds to me like he MIGHT be contributing to the family's food supply.

Oh, and it looks like you were right, Katganistan. I called a local taxidermist today. He said the meat from an animal CAN be harvested, and still have a trophy for the wall/room/etc.
Yootopia
12-12-2007, 21:02
Well, he did get 3 deer last year (according to the article, although there's no mention of the sizes of the ones he got). Three deer and a bear sounds to me like he MIGHT be contributing to the family's food supply.
Not entirely convinced, to be quite honest.
Mad hatters in jeans
12-12-2007, 21:07
Why is killing the bear a good thing?
Maybe it was going to eat the kids dad and save the kid from a poor lifestyle of guns and hunting.

I don't see the point of hunting unless you are hungry, to be honest how stupid does the dad have to be taking his 5 year old kid hunting?
Mind you having said that it will raise awareness to the ridiculously outdated gunlaws in some US states.
I think they were made in the first place to protect people against the native indians who they had just stole the land from in a great "poineering" or stealing i call it feat.
Nowadays they are pointless and give rise to gang crime gun crime and loss of life, of course i can't change the law in the US states and i'm glad i can't it's up to the people whether they want to die hunting bears for no particular reason.
The Alma Mater
12-12-2007, 21:56
Why is killing the bear a good thing?

Let us rephrase that.
Why would "5 year old kid kills kitten with gun" or "5 year old sniper kills man from incredible distance" be considered negative, even they would require the same/superior skill - but is it all fine and dandy when one kills a bear ?
Vandal-Unknown
12-12-2007, 22:00
Let us rephrase that.
Why would "5 year old kid kills kitten with gun" or "5 year old sniper kills man from incredible distance" be considered negative, even they would require the same/superior skill - but is it all fine and dandy when one kills a bear ?

Even though is wrong, I'd give props to that 5 year old sniper too.

Amazing feats are beyond good and evil ^_^
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 22:07
Amazing feats are beyond good and evil ^_^

Agreed, as long as we dont qualify hitting a BEAR at 40 yards with a rifle as an amazing feat
Vandal-Unknown
12-12-2007, 22:10
Agreed, as long as we dont qualify hitting a BEAR at 40 yards with a rifle as an amazing feat

To me, it's quite an amazing feat, having never before shot a gun, let alone kill a bear.

Maybe it's because people kept saying, "Firing a gun and actually hitting a target are two different things" among other things that implied gun handling isn't as easy as the movies/games claim it is?
Intestinal fluids
12-12-2007, 22:17
To me, it's quite an amazing feat, having never before shot a gun, let alone kill a bear.

Maybe it's because people kept saying, "Firing a gun and actually hitting a target are two different things" among other things that implied gun handling isn't as easy as the movies/games claim it is?

Ok let me explain. If you look down a scope at a bear at 40 yards, your entire scope will mostly be filled with bear. A long range marksman has to consider gravity and even wind in long range shots. OK i have the crosshairs over the targets heart, now do i aim 4 or 5 inches above the target to compensate for gravity and maybe 1 inch to the left? At 40 yards the answer to that question is just pull the trigger stupid. I suspect you do not understand the accuracy of a rifle.
Xomic
12-12-2007, 22:24
Why do people shooting a gun and killing something is so special? Try hunting with a Bow, or a spear; call me when a 5 year old does that.

Seriously. This story is beyond pointless; yeah, such, he shot and killed a bear, but who cares? I'd be more impressed if he had somehow killed the damn thing with his bare hands.

In addition, I find is rather distressing that people feel the need to celebrate a 5 year old killer/redneck.

:headbang:
Vandal-Unknown
12-12-2007, 22:25
Ok let me explain. If you look down a scope at a bear at 40 yards, your entire scope will mostly be filled with bear. A long range marksman has to consider gravity and even wind in long range shots. OK i have the crosshairs over the targets heart, now do i aim 2 or 3 inches above the target to compensate for gravity and maybe 1 inch to the left? At 40 yards the answer to that question is just pull the trigger stupid. I suspect you do not understand the accuracy of a rifle.

Theoritically? Simple, because of the rifled groove, length of the barrel and amount of explosive packed into the ammo, it provides more accuracy and longer range.

... still a 5 year old? I even can't remember doing stuff when I was five.

Okay, okay, I know that you're not impressed with that kid, but lay off me for being amazed at that kid please :rolleyes:
GrandBill II
12-12-2007, 22:36
Tre’s dad says he started teaching his son to shoot when he was just 2 ½ years old

God bless america!
1010102
12-12-2007, 23:47
Yes, the gun laws made in the 1970s were made to protect the settlers.:rolleyes: (most have been written since 1950)
Iniika
13-12-2007, 00:08
Would have been a better story if the kid was getting mauled and somehow miraculously managed to shoot and kill the bear. Or if the kid managed to kill the bear with a bow. That would have been amazing! *shrug* I dont find sitting in a tree and pointing down at and shooting a bear that didn't even care that you were up there in the first place anything spectacular.
Midlauthia
13-12-2007, 00:21
Praising young human vermin when they fire a projectile into an unsuspecting animal while safely sitting in a tree?

What's next?
Abortion? Gay marriage? Civil rights?
Last time I checked, we had those. Not really sure where we live.

And bears can climb so that tree isn't totally safe :p
Midlauthia
13-12-2007, 00:24
Would have been a better story if the kid was getting mauled and somehow miraculously managed to shoot and kill the bear. Or if the kid managed to kill the bear with a bow. That would have been amazing! *shrug* I dont find sitting in a tree and pointing down at and shooting a bear that didn't even care that you were up there in the first place anything spectacular.
The fact that a 5 year old can handle the kick of a rifle needed to take down a bear in the first place. But hunting from a stand is *meh*. Personally, I need to be moving or my legs fall off. And sitting up in a tree gets pretty boring after a while.
Midlauthia
13-12-2007, 00:30
Nowadays they are pointless and give rise to gang crime gun crime and loss of life, of course i can't change the law in the US states and i'm glad i can't it's up to the people whether they want to die hunting bears for no particular reason.
Yeah, I've heard of a lot of drive-bys with hunting rifles.
KneelBeforeZod
13-12-2007, 01:01
Yeah, that's not getting old real quick. :rolleyes:

Kneel before my eye lasers, defiant coward!

(*shoots you with eye lasers*)

There. I feel SO much better now. :D
Ohshucksiforgotourname
13-12-2007, 01:05
In Soviet Arkansas, bears hunt YOU! :D
Midlauthia
13-12-2007, 01:11
In Soviet Arkansas, bears hunt YOU! :D
Or in Soviet Arkansas, the tree sits on you!
The Andermani
13-12-2007, 01:12
I wish there actually were more bear around here. I've heard it's pretty good, and I paid 18 bucks for that big game tag. It comes with a bear tag, as well as my 5 deer tags. I'm usin the damn bear tag, and gettin a damn bear if I can.

NOW, to address all the "hunting is primitive/uncouth/redneck/hickish/dirty/uncivilized." bull, I'd like to say that while most people here would probably call me an uncouth redneck, I don't really give a crap. I don't judge your way of life, and don't you judge mine. Copy?
Midlauthia
13-12-2007, 01:20
I wish there actually were more bear around here. I've heard it's pretty good, and I paid 18 bucks for that big game tag. It comes with a bear tag, as well as my 5 deer tags. I'm usin the damn bear tag, and gettin a damn bear if I can.

NOW, to address all the "hunting is primitive/uncouth/redneck/hickish/dirty/uncivilized." bull, I'd like to say that while most people here would probably call me an uncouth redneck, I don't really give a crap. I don't judge your way of life, and don't you judge mine. Copy?
Brother from another mother!
Sel Appa
13-12-2007, 02:14
This is despicable and disgusting, even more so that a little boy did it. He should be executed with his parents by firing squad.
Intestinal fluids
13-12-2007, 02:44
NOW, to address all the "hunting is primitive/uncouth/redneck/hickish/dirty/uncivilized." bull, I'd like to say that while most people here would probably call me an uncouth redneck, I don't really give a crap. I don't judge your way of life, and don't you judge mine. Copy?

Ok. But who gets to judge the bears life?
Bann-ed
13-12-2007, 02:47
Ok. But who gets to judge the bears life?

The person with the gun.
The South Islands
13-12-2007, 02:48
This is despicable and disgusting, even more so that a little boy did it. He should be executed with his parents by firing squad.

Tolerant one, arn't ya?
Kontor
13-12-2007, 02:49
This is despicable and disgusting, even more so that a little boy did it. He should be executed with his parents by firing squad.

You are a rather sad strange little Person.
Intestinal fluids
13-12-2007, 02:50
The person with the gun.

So sayeth the Buffalo.
Bann-ed
13-12-2007, 02:50
So sayeth the Buffalo.

I don't agree with it, I was just stating the truth.
New Ziedrich
13-12-2007, 04:21
This is despicable and disgusting, even more so that a little boy did it. He should be executed with his parents by firing squad.

Yeah, this is ridiculous.
Gun Manufacturers
13-12-2007, 04:46
You are a rather sad strange little Person.

Is this what you're looking for? :D

http://www.jahozafat.com/php/sounds/?id=bst&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Toy_Story&quote=sad.txt&file=sad.wav
The Andermani
14-12-2007, 01:59
Ok. But who gets to judge the bears life?

Depends. How big is he, and is he tasty? If he's tasty, the answer is a definitive "me."
Iniika
14-12-2007, 03:22
The fact that a 5 year old can handle the kick of a rifle needed to take down a bear in the first place. But hunting from a stand is *meh*. Personally, I need to be moving or my legs fall off. And sitting up in a tree gets pretty boring after a while.

It was a children's rifle >.> I doubt it has the same kick as a regular one.
The South Islands
14-12-2007, 03:37
It was a children's rifle >.> I doubt it has the same kick as a regular one.

A .22 can't drop a bear.