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Photons

Smokingdrugs
11-12-2007, 03:36
Are they waves or particles?
CoallitionOfTheWilling
11-12-2007, 03:38
Photons are particles themselves, however they behave like waves.

So particles.
New Genoa
11-12-2007, 03:44
They are particles that act like waves
Deus Malum
11-12-2007, 03:46
The photon itself is a particle, a quantum of a light wave. Light, however, is both particle and wave, comprised of a particle photon propagating as an electromagnetic wave.
Posi
11-12-2007, 03:48
Whichever is more convenient to the formula you are working on.
Creepy Lurker
11-12-2007, 04:02
Both until you take a measurement.

Then its either a wave or a particle depending on what you are measuring.

Quantum physics ftw.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
11-12-2007, 04:12
Don't listen to these clowns.. It's a liquid. Says so right there on the periodic table - in the fine print, on the left. :cool:
Creepy Lurker
11-12-2007, 04:16
Don't listen to these clowns.. It's a liquid. Says so right there on the periodic table - in the fine print, on the left. :cool:

Idiot. There are no liquids in the periodic table. It must be a solid or a gas.

*drinks mercury*
*dies*
Domici
11-12-2007, 05:03
The photon itself is a particle, a quantum of a light wave. Light, however, is both particle and wave, comprised of a particle photon propagating as an electromagnetic wave.

This flip-flopping further demonstrates reality's liberal bias.
New Czardas
11-12-2007, 05:05
Are they waves or particles?

Yes.

Poll should be multiple choice, too.
Smokingdrugs
11-12-2007, 05:15
Nonsense, I need a final answer as to their absolute nature.
New Genoa
11-12-2007, 05:20
Nonsense, I need a final answer as to their absolute nature.

Particles which act like waves is there absolute nature.

in fact if you take the absolute value of a photon, that is, |photon| you get wave and particle (as you know, all absolute value functions have two answers)
Morvonia
11-12-2007, 05:20
This flip-flopping further demonstrates reality's liberal bias.

LMFAO, comment = FTW
New Genoa
11-12-2007, 05:22
Idiot. There are no liquids in the periodic table. It must be a solid or a gas.

*drinks mercury*
*dies*

Here have some bromine.
Jinos
11-12-2007, 05:39
Are they waves or particles?

Yes.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-12-2007, 07:05
Are they waves or particles?

Yes. :)
Grave_n_idle
11-12-2007, 07:17
Are they waves or particles?

Depends how close you look really.

It's like asking if the Earth is a particle or wave...
Cameroi
11-12-2007, 09:21
Are they waves or particles?

obviously neither. at the risk of sounding fasitious, one real possibility is vortexes in the aether! their also a way of looking at things and doing the math, that may or may not even represent real objects.

and we don't know that nothing can travelle faster either. we've never tried pushing anything with infinite force.

=^^=
.../\...
Vandal-Unknown
11-12-2007, 09:21
Wave form particles.

Particular waves.
Intangelon
11-12-2007, 15:07
The answer to the OP question is "yes".




EDIT: That'll teach me to read the thread.
Deus Malum
11-12-2007, 17:40
Particles which act like waves is there absolute nature.

in fact if you take the absolute value of a photon, that is, |photon| you get wave and particle (as you know, all absolute value functions have two answers)

Uhm...what? An absolute value always has two roots but that's not always the same thing as two "answers."

How, pray tell, does one take the absolute value of a photon?
CthulhuFhtagn
11-12-2007, 17:44
Are they waves or particles?

Yes.
Peepelonia
11-12-2007, 17:45
Uhm...what? An absolute value always has two roots but that's not always the same thing as two "answers."

How, pray tell, does one take the absolute value of a photon?

By measuring it silly!
Newer Burmecia
11-12-2007, 17:47
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave-particle_duality

"Go not to the physicists for counsel, for they will say both no and yes."
New Genoa
11-12-2007, 17:50
Uhm...what? An absolute value always has two roots but that's not always the same thing as two "answers."

How, pray tell, does one take the absolute value of a photon?

You do so by making a joke.
Deus Malum
11-12-2007, 17:56
You do so by making a joke.

Heh, fair enough. The angry "finals in a week" physics major in me kicked in.
Nova Magna Germania
11-12-2007, 18:02
Are they waves or particles?

Everything is composed of waves according to the string theory.
New Genoa
11-12-2007, 18:02
Heh, fair enough. The angry "finals in a week" physics major in me kicked in.

It's ok. We all have finals. For example, my calculus today.
Deus Malum
11-12-2007, 18:05
It's ok. We all have finals. For example, my calculus today.

Best of luck. Diff Eq on friday is promising to give me a migraine for the weekend.
Tsrill
11-12-2007, 18:14
Are they waves or particles?

A probability density distribution.
The nine Thanes
11-12-2007, 18:14
A photon has the properties of a wave and a particle, does this mean that it is both? No. It does not. I propose that a photon is neither, but rather something that can't be broken down into deterministic terms...


...as of yet. *Jumps into a time machine to bring Einstein and a few others back that did not like quantum theory.*
Creepy Lurker
11-12-2007, 18:58
Everything is composed of waves according to the string theory.

Really? Wouldn't that make it wave theory?

I always thought that string theory said everything was made of strings vibrating in the 10th dimension.
King Arthur the Great
11-12-2007, 19:09
I always thought that string theory said everything was made of strings vibrating in the 10th dimension.

No, in those damnable basonic cases, we've got 26 dimensions from the wrath-of-hell Polyakov equation (that stuff is evil incarnate). The superstring and M-theory cases are usually 10 or 11, but it all comes down to reducing the extra dimensions to the usual, 4-D Space-Time continuum that can be measured with more linearity.
Mirkana
11-12-2007, 20:41
They are both.
Vespertilia
11-12-2007, 21:11
And by Field Theory all particles are physical manifestations of energy fields, IIRC.

As for me, I've been dealing recently with basics of chaotic dynamics :)
Yootopia
11-12-2007, 21:51
Are they waves or particles?
Maybe.
Farnhamia
11-12-2007, 22:02
I'll take the Heisenberg Option, please.