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Pirates or Ninjas?

Tedthehunter
09-12-2007, 17:55
i'm saying ninjas but i don't know about you

you all have to vote NAO!!!
Yossarian Lives
09-12-2007, 18:04
Pirates all the way; none of those faceless boring Ninjas. Pirates literally blow ninjas out of the water.
Tedthehunter
09-12-2007, 18:20
Pirates all the way; none of those faceless boring Ninjas. Pirates literally blow ninjas out of the water.

apohasdgf balugedalgo

what the hell is your problem
those faceless boring ninjas'll cut off your dick and make you eat it:upyours:
[NS]Click Stand
09-12-2007, 18:22
Pirates have guns, ninjas don't. I think that answers your question. That is assuming that they are standing and facing eachother. otherwise one could just sneak up on thje other and win.
Intangelon
09-12-2007, 18:23
Adults?

Okay, okay, sorry. I'm just tired of this whole stupid "debate".

How about lawyers?
Greater Trostia
09-12-2007, 18:25
Pirates have ships and cannons and guns and parrots and peg legs and eye patches and buried treasure and booty. Ninjas just cannot compare in terms of sheer weight of cool.

Ninjas are like the emo kids who went to rennaissance faires and thought they were badass.
Intelligenstan
09-12-2007, 18:27
Pirates dominate the waters, Ninjas the land. Since Earth is over 70% water, Pirates win.
They are also His Holliness the FSM's chosen people, and therefore have an insurmountable advantage.
Laerod
09-12-2007, 18:30
Pirates, duh.

Ninjas are limited to Japan. Pirates are everywhere! =D
[NS]Rolling squid
09-12-2007, 18:31
pirates. Guns > swords, all a pirate has to do is stand their and shoot the ninjas as they try to swim out to their ships.
Saige Dragon
09-12-2007, 18:32
Pirates are allowed to say "Arrggh" and "Swab the poopdeck". Ninjas aren't.

Pirates are allowed eye patches and peg legs. Ninjas aren't.

Pirates don't have to shave or brush their teeth. Ninjas you just can't tell cause they have that burka face mask thingy.

Pirates get the loot. Ninja's only get honour and other stupid stuff like that.

Pirates have scars. Chicks dig scars. Therefore Ninjas suck. I win.
Intangelon
09-12-2007, 18:33
Rolling squid;13276152']pirates. Guns > swords, all a pirate has to do is stand their and shoot the ninjas as they try to swim out to their ships.

You ever fire an authentic pirate weapon? Three shots a MINUTE, and those rushed, is considered outstanding. The shot used weren't rifled, so accuracy at anything over twenty yards is almost comedic.

Sorry, but if you're going to talk weaponry, the ninjas are the superior force. A big, inaccurate bang is nothing compared to the stealthy kill.

DAMMIT! I got sucked in!
Lebostrana
09-12-2007, 18:35
Pirates have guns, but ninjas have throwing stars and years of ninja training, making them astonishingly fast, agile, and silent, and could easily kill you five times in five different ways before you hit the ground. Pirates (disabled due to their peg legs, eye patches and hook hands) simply say something along the lines of "Aaargh! She be a fine galleon, with a King's ransom o' gold to be plundered!" and shoot the people on board, take ages reloading (primitive guns, you see), gamble away all their money, get caught, and get hanged.

So you see, ninjas are by far the superior race.
Lunatic Goofballs
09-12-2007, 18:36
http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/ninjaclown.JPG
Tedthehunter
09-12-2007, 18:39
You ever fire an authentic pirate weapon? Three shots a MINUTE, and those rushed, is considered outstanding. The shot used weren't rifled, so accuracy at anything over twenty yards is almost comedic.

Sorry, but if you're going to talk weaponry, the ninjas are the superior force. A big, inaccurate bang is nothing compared to the stealthy kill.

DAMMIT! I got sucked in!

:D Damn right bitch pirates suck ass

imagine a kunai flying straight at your face out of nowhere

now imagine your own head falling to the floor in a crumpled mass of skin, bone, and not much brain :D
Markeliopia
09-12-2007, 18:41
Does this ruin pirates for everyone?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XaWU1CmrJNc
Intangelon
09-12-2007, 18:41
:D Damn right bitch pirates suck ass

imagine a kunai flying straight at your face out of nowhere

now imagine your own head falling to the floor in a crumpled mass of skin, bone, and not much brain :D

Hey, uh, junior? Yeah, lay off the "bitch" talk...you're agreeing with me, right? :rolleyes:
Soyut
09-12-2007, 18:43
Pirates have the clear technological advantage. Pistols, grapeshot, gunpowder. Plus its not like a pirate has to lose if his gun doesn't work. Pirates are experts at fencing and they have sabers and cutlasses.
Lebostrana
09-12-2007, 18:44
Does this ruin pirates for everyone?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XaWU1CmrJNc

Oh my God, those vegetables are my heroes now. Especially the cucumber. :D
Flame and Snow
09-12-2007, 18:45
ninjas

The proper plural is "ninja".

Since I know no such thing as "ninjas", I won't vote.
Laerod
09-12-2007, 18:49
So you see, ninjas are by far the superior race.Does that make ninjas racist? Pirates accept anyone from any race into their ranks.
Soyut
09-12-2007, 18:50
You ever fire an authentic pirate weapon? Three shots a MINUTE, and those rushed, is considered outstanding. The shot used weren't rifled, so accuracy at anything over twenty yards is almost comedic.

Sorry, but if you're going to talk weaponry, the ninjas are the superior force. A big, inaccurate bang is nothing compared to the stealthy kill.

DAMMIT! I got sucked in!

So what? assuming a 1 to 1 pirate to ninja ratio, why would the pirate have to reload? And a firing range of 3 yards is still further than a ninja can swing his sword. Also, a big inaccurate bang is alot more powerful than anything a human can throw. Imagine a hot iron miniball tearing through your flesh compared to a little star sticking out of your arm.

Plus, ninja may be stealthy, but pirates have torches and lanterns so they can see in the dark. Plus they have parrots that constantly look behind them and squak if there is danger.
Lebostrana
09-12-2007, 18:51
Does that make ninjas racist? Pirates accept anyone from any race into their ranks.

Who knows? Ninjas are very mysterious and shadowy.
Yossarian Lives
09-12-2007, 18:54
You ever fire an authentic pirate weapon? Three shots a MINUTE, and those rushed, is considered outstanding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Blackbeard.gif
But as you can see from the above picture, your average pirate wasn't a stupid man and overcame his weapon's shortcomings by carrying an enormous quantity of them.
Re4666
09-12-2007, 18:54
but, pirates have guns
:mp5:
:sniper:
and boats
and cannons
and jack sparrow
Intangelon
09-12-2007, 18:54
So what? assuming a 1 to 1 pirate to ninja ratio, why would the pirate have to reload? And a firing range of 3 yards is still further than a ninja can swing his sword. Also, a big inaccurate bang is alot more powerful than anything a human can throw. Imagine a hot iron miniball tearing through your flesh compared to a little star sticking out of your arm.

Plus, ninja may be stealthy, but pirates have torches and lanterns so they can see in the dark. Plus they have parrots that constantly look behind them and squak if there is danger.

It's easier to imagine it whizzing ineffectively past you, as that was the most common result of most blunderbuss firings.
Lunatic Goofballs
09-12-2007, 18:55
Ninjas hide themselves in plain sight. They take jobs and live as one of us until such a time as their ninja skills are called upon. Then, they take up their ninja mission and as soon as it is completed, they resume their secret identities or move on to other places where their ninja skills might be needed in the future.

So a ninja could become a pirate. But a pirate could never become a ninja. *nod*
La Laguna de Pax
09-12-2007, 18:55
pirates are cooler.

they have all the cool phrases and iconic clothes and accesories. Plus they're ingenious when it comes to getting out of sticky situations. Plus they get the rum and have more fun! I would rather be a swashbuckling pirate... arrgh me hearties.... than a ninja.

Just wondering... do ninjas have any cool catchphrases?

xxx
Laerod
09-12-2007, 18:58
Does this ruin pirates for everyone?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XaWU1CmrJNcYes, but this made them acceptable again:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ooz01WjsXF4&feature=related
Lunatic Goofballs
09-12-2007, 18:58
Also:

http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/calvinpirates.jpg
Laerod
09-12-2007, 18:59
Who knows? Ninjas are very mysterious and shadowy.That's no excuse for a shitty PR campaign :p
[NS]Click Stand
09-12-2007, 18:59
pirates are cooler.

they have all the cool phrases and iconic clothes and accesories. Plus they're ingenious when it comes to getting out of sticky situations. Plus they get the rum and have more fun! I would rather be a swashbuckling pirate... arrgh me hearties.... than a ninja.

Just wondering... do ninjas have any cool catchphrases?

xxx

It's all fun and games until you get scurvy.
Laerod
09-12-2007, 19:01
So a ninja could become a pirate. But a pirate could never become a ninja. *nod*Pirates can drown and drift to the bottom of the sea, but they'd never sink that low.
Lebostrana
09-12-2007, 19:03
That's no excuse for a shitty PR campaign :p

Don't argue with them, they're ninjas. They'll kick your ass. :)
Soyut
09-12-2007, 19:05
Click Stand;13276245']It's all fun and games until you get scurvy.

SO, ninjas are not allowed to have sex. In fact, most of them are eunichs.
Cookesland
09-12-2007, 19:06
Pirates ftw!
Lunatic Goofballs
09-12-2007, 19:07
SO, ninjas are not allowed to have sex. In fact, most of them are eunichs.

Lies started by those damn pirates! >.<
Greater Trostia
09-12-2007, 19:07
You ever fire an authentic pirate weapon? Three shots a MINUTE, and those rushed, is considered outstanding. The shot used weren't rifled, so accuracy at anything over twenty yards is almost comedic.

Sorry, but if you're going to talk weaponry, the ninjas are the superior force. A big, inaccurate bang is nothing compared to the stealthy kill.

Who needs inaccuracy when you have a brace of six pistols and a deckfull of 12 pound cannons loaded with chain or grape shot?

Who needs range over 20 yards? Is the ninja's throwing star going to kill all the pirates from twenty miles across?
Greater Trostia
09-12-2007, 19:09
Lies started by those damn pirates! >.<

Oh, don't you start up with your "pirate media bias" conspiracy again...
Conrado
09-12-2007, 19:10
VIKINGS...the brutal and manlier precursor to Pirates.

"Just wondering... do ninjas have any cool catchphrases?"

Umm...."COWABUNGA".
Laerod
09-12-2007, 19:13
Lies started by those damn pirates! >.<What do you care? Aren't you in the clown faction anyway?
The Fig Tree
09-12-2007, 19:14
Pirates have guns, but they can't shoot what they can't see. Ninjas can sneak up on them before they even see what's going on, kill them in seventeen different ways, and be gone before the pirate hits the ground.
Gun Manufacturers
09-12-2007, 19:16
So what? assuming a 1 to 1 pirate to ninja ratio, why would the pirate have to reload? And a firing range of 3 yards is still further than a ninja can swing his sword. Also, a big inaccurate bang is alot more powerful than anything a human can throw. Imagine a hot iron miniball tearing through your flesh compared to a little star sticking out of your arm.

Plus, ninja may be stealthy, but pirates have torches and lanterns so they can see in the dark. Plus they have parrots that constantly look behind them and squak if there is danger.

Ninja also used bows, which would negate the range advantage of the pirate's flintlock pistol. Also, ever wonder what happens to a flintlock pistol when it gets wet? Nothing. It doesn't go off.

One other thing Ninja used, was poison. A poison tipped weapon could really ruin a pirate's day.
Lunatic Goofballs
09-12-2007, 19:17
What do you care? Aren't you in the clown faction anyway?

Ninjas and Clowns are close cousins. *nod*
Laerod
09-12-2007, 19:17
Pirates have guns, but they can't shoot what they can't see. Ninjas can sneak up on them before they even see what's going on, kill them in seventeen different ways, and be gone before the pirate hits the ground.Kinda hard to sneak up on a boat in the high seas...
Domici
09-12-2007, 19:18
Does this ruin pirates for everyone?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XaWU1CmrJNc

Hell No! But it redeems Veggie Tales for me, that's for sure.
Laerod
09-12-2007, 19:20
Ninja also used bows, which would negate the range advantage of the pirate's flintlock pistol. Also, ever wonder what happens to a flintlock pistol when it gets wet? Nothing. It doesn't go off.Wet isn't all that great of a condition for bows either...

One other thing Ninja used, was poison. A poison tipped weapon could really ruin a pirate's day.Pirates just have to bite you :D
Lebostrana
09-12-2007, 19:21
Wet isn't all that great of a condition for bows either...

I believe you mean windy.

Pirates just have to bite you :D

With their venomous teeth.
Greater Trostia
09-12-2007, 19:23
I believe you mean windy.


That too. But a wet bow soaks up the water, is heavier to carry and doesn't work as well.

Luckily, the high seas are both wet AND windy.
Lebostrana
09-12-2007, 19:25
That too. But a wet bow soaks up the water, is heavier to carry and doesn't work as well.

Luckily, the high seas are both wet AND windy.


So, theoretically, the pirates guns should never work. :p
Laerod
09-12-2007, 19:27
I believe you mean windy.I used to supervise an archery range in Summer Camp. Wet + Bowstring? Bad idea. Very bad idea. Not necessarily as faulty as gunpowder, but that's one important reason why archers carried multiple bowstrings and waited until they needed the bow to string it.
With their venomous teeth.Scurvy power!
Domici
09-12-2007, 19:27
Pirates dominate the waters, Ninjas the land. Since Earth is over 70% water, Pirates win.
They are also His Holliness the FSM's chosen people, and therefore have an insurmountable advantage.

Yup. Ninjas are limited to Japan. Pirates can go anywhere. Even Canada (http://youtube.com/watch?v=mvs9ctCen2E).
Greater Trostia
09-12-2007, 19:27
So, theoretically, the pirates guns should never work. :p

Theoretically. But that's why they have cannons and stuff below the main deck and they try to keep the powder dry and all.
Lebostrana
09-12-2007, 19:28
Theoretically. But that's why they have cannons and stuff below the main deck and they try to keep the powder dry and all.

Oh please, by the time they loaded the cannons, the ninjas would have sailed through the air and slit their throats.
Laerod
09-12-2007, 19:31
Oh please, by the time they loaded the cannons, the ninjas would have sailed through the air and slit their throats.If ninjas had boats, that is...
Demon Impalers
09-12-2007, 19:42
Ninja ftw.

Any piss drunk retard can grab a cutlass and call himself a pirate.

Being a ninja requires real stealth, agility, and skill.
Greater Trostia
09-12-2007, 19:43
Ninja ftw.

Any piss drunk retard can grab a cutlass and call himself a pirate.

Well, any piss drunk retard can wear black and call himself a ninja.


Being a ninja requires real stealth, agility, and skill.

Not really. It only requires convincing other people that you're a ninja. Considering how many "ninjas" there are, or were, it seems that alone is the primary skill....
Markeliopia
09-12-2007, 19:43
If ninjas had boats, that is...

He said sailed through the air
Tedthehunter
09-12-2007, 19:44
ninjas rule because they eat cake:upyours:
Laerod
09-12-2007, 19:52
He said sailed through the airThere's a lot of air between Japan and the straits of Singapore, the Caribbean, the North Sea, and the Indian Ocean. A lot of air.
Mikitivity
09-12-2007, 19:56
I'm a bit surprised such a contraversal subject is allowed to be discussed here. It will be hard for us all to remain civil. ;)
Markeliopia
09-12-2007, 20:06
There's a lot of air between Japan and the straits of Singapore, the Caribbean, the North Sea, and the Indian Ocean. A lot of air.

They go to really high altitude where the air is thinner
Markeliopia
09-12-2007, 20:12
Speaking of ninjas, can you believe there is such a thing as an average Asian

http://youtube.com/watch?v=V40x3BL5TLI&feature=related
Soyut
09-12-2007, 20:30
Ninja also used bows, which would negate the range advantage of the pirate's flintlock pistol. Also, ever wonder what happens to a flintlock pistol when it gets wet? Nothing. It doesn't go off.

One other thing Ninja used, was poison. A poison tipped weapon could really ruin a pirate's day.

Pirates have cannons. beat that with a bow and arrow.
Nicherwan
09-12-2007, 20:34
ninjas have Qi power and supernatural powers. Pirates have inaccurate guns. Ninjas win.
Laerod
09-12-2007, 20:34
They go to really high altitude where the air is thinnerMaybe that's why they never made it out of Japan...
Yanitaria
09-12-2007, 20:40
Guys, guys, there is a very, VERY clear argument to be made.

Case Closed (http://nfhc.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/pirates-vs-ninjas/)
Laerod
09-12-2007, 20:46
Guys, guys, there is a very, VERY clear argument to be made.

Case Closed (http://nfhc.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/pirates-vs-ninjas/)Wenches! :D
Greater Trostia
09-12-2007, 22:27
They go to really high altitude where the air is thinner

That would actually make it less possible for them to fly.
Mirkana
09-12-2007, 22:44
Ninjas are trained, and they focus their training on killing. Pirates aren't trained, really, and a lot of their skills have to do with operating a ship. Your average pirate was basically a thug with a knife and pistol. Your average ninja is trained to kill from the shadows.

Not that pirates are pushovers. They aren't. But ninjas will probably win (assuming the fight is person-to-person).

If the fight is ship-to-ship (say, a pirate ship faces off against a ship full of ninjas, and the object is to kill), then the pirates will win, since they are familiar with ship-to-ship combat. Ninjas aren't.
Lebostrana
09-12-2007, 22:47
If ninjas had boats, that is...

If they didn't, then the Pirate ships and cannons would also be useless. ;)
Lebostrana
09-12-2007, 22:49
There's a lot of air between Japan and the straits of Singapore, the Caribbean, the North Sea, and the Indian Ocean. A lot of air.

They're NINJAS. Volume and distance mean nothing to them.
Gun Manufacturers
09-12-2007, 23:02
Pirates have cannons. beat that with a bow and arrow.

Sure. As the pirate goes to load the cannon, the ninja will shoot him with the bow. Repeat ad nauseam. IF the pirates can find a way to load the cannon, the ninja will just kill the pirate that fires the cannon, before he can light the fuse. Repeat ad nauseam.
Gun Manufacturers
09-12-2007, 23:04
Guys, guys, there is a very, VERY clear argument to be made.

Case Closed (http://nfhc.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/pirates-vs-ninjas/)

Ninja wenches are also ninja. You won't see ninja wenches until it's too late.
Greater Trostia
09-12-2007, 23:18
See, I notice most pro-ninja arguments depend on magical properties mistakenly attributed to ninjas. The pirate arguments don't need magic to work. This tells me that in a rational world, pirates will win.

And there is a much more compelling argument. Ninjas are obviously a very small assortment of individuals while pirates, at various times and places, would have vastly more numbers. So the 1-on-1 pirate/ninja duel people here are woefully assuming just isn't going to apply in any meaningful sense.

So that ninja, supposedly shooting whoever is loading or firing the cannon? Yeah, he better have some kind of Dungeons and Dragons, Orlando "Legolas" Bloom rapid-fire multi-shot heat-seeking arrows or something, cuz there's going to be as many as ten to several dozen cannons per ninja. Bitchez.

:p
New Manvir
09-12-2007, 23:33
Ninjas kick pirate ass
Hydesland
09-12-2007, 23:34
Old debate is old.
Hoyteca
09-12-2007, 23:53
Ninja pirates>pirates>pirate clowns>ninja

Case closed. Pirates win. They go in, kill a bunch of people, take the loot, and get the f**k out. Plus, they have cannons. Sure, their guns were innaccurate, but when fighting in close combat, their guns hardly ever missed.

Plus, there are ninja pirates. Ninja pirates are a type of pirate that use katanas, bows, and throwing stars in addition to cannons, cutlasses, and guns. They're ninja piates. They can kill a group of ninjas before those ninjas even suspected an ambush.
Redwulf
10-12-2007, 00:05
Rolling squid;13276152']pirates. Guns > swords, all a pirate has to do is stand their and shoot the ninjas as they try to swim out to their ships.

Don't you know that n1nj4 can parry bullets?

<edit: and walk on water with their special n1nj4 shoes?>

Besides, Ninja Pirates FTW.
Pirated Corsairs
10-12-2007, 00:50
VIKINGS...the brutal and manlier precursor to Pirates.

"Just wondering... do ninjas have any cool catchphrases?"

Umm...."COWABUNGA".

Indeed. Vikings are basically a type of pirate. And no way ninjas can beat vikings. Vikings have the berserker rage and get to go to Valhalla even if they do die.

And, if you're gonna give ninjas magic, then pirates get to include a god (the FSM) as one of their advantages. Beat that!

Also:

I think the second half pretty much says it. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html)
Rhursbourg
10-12-2007, 01:27
Pirates
http://www.southlandrealestate.com/images/ErrolFlynn.gif
Hoyteca
10-12-2007, 02:06
Don't you know that n1nj4 can parry bullets?

<edit: and walk on water with their special n1nj4 shoes?>

Besides, Ninja Pirates FTW.

pirates get ships, guns, short swords, and cannons. Ninjas get stealth, throwing stars, katanas, and the ocassional bow and arrow. Pirates have a huge advantage on water and coastal regions, but ninjas are superior inland.


Yeah, ninja pirates ftw. Of course, I consider ninja pirates pirates and not ninjas. they're stealth pirates. Japanese stealth pirates.
Fall of Empire
10-12-2007, 02:11
Ninjas kick pirates lily asses.

That being said, a pirate-ninja could own completely
Dalmatia Cisalpina
10-12-2007, 02:36
Well, Mythbusters confirmed one pirate myth ("Sand Necktie") and called one more plausible ("Eye Patch"). All of the ninja myths were busted. Therefore, pirates.
[NS]Rolling squid
10-12-2007, 03:01
You ever fire an authentic pirate weapon? Three shots a MINUTE, and those rushed, is considered outstanding. The shot used weren't rifled, so accuracy at anything over twenty yards is almost comedic.

Sorry, but if you're going to talk weaponry, the ninjas are the superior force. A big, inaccurate bang is nothing compared to the stealthy kill.

DAMMIT! I got sucked in!

no, I haven't. You ever tried to swim out to a ship that's easily 200+ feet from shore while carring two swords, and while people are shooting at you? Then climb up the side of the ship and fight those on board to the death.
And don't forget, pitates also have cannons, those can be accurate and very deadly.
[NS]Rolling squid
10-12-2007, 03:03
Well, Mythbusters confirmed one pirate myth ("Sand Necktie") and called one more plausible ("Eye Patch"). All of the ninja myths were busted. Therefore, pirates.

they also confirmed the chain fired from the cannon and called knives, nails and one other thing plausible, IIRC.
Betterthenkylesland
10-12-2007, 03:03
Ninjas Ftw!:d
Alexandriaz
10-12-2007, 03:09
If anyone ever saw the cartoon network shows Naruto and One Piece, apparently pirates had more magic than ninjas:confused:. :rolleyes:


I still support ninjas, because they just plain kewl. :D
Alexandriaz
10-12-2007, 03:14
and also:

even though pirates have jack sparow, ninjas have godzilla
Tedthehunter
10-12-2007, 05:16
ninjas kill you damn pirates:D

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/01/200px-Beverly_Hills_Ninja.jpg
Tedthehunter
10-12-2007, 05:18
and also:

even though pirates have jack sparow, ninjas have godzilla

Damn right, ninjas all the way
Gojira wooooo!!!!!:p
Pirated Corsairs
10-12-2007, 05:26
Damn right, ninjas all the way
Gojira wooooo!!!!!:p

How the hell is Godzilla a ninja? There are, in fact, Japanese things that are non ninja. :p
Tedthehunter
10-12-2007, 05:35
How the hell is Godzilla a ninja? There are, in fact, Japanese things that are non ninja. :p

you're right there are samurai, ramen noodles, NINJAS YAAAAAAAYYY!!!!!:p:D:D:D:p:p:p:D
La Laguna de Pax
10-12-2007, 12:41
PIRATES! ARGH! They have cool songs!

"Yo Ho, Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life For Me..."

Catchphrases!

Pieces of Eight
Argh me hearties
sail the seven seas
shiver me timbers
Ifreann
10-12-2007, 12:58
You ever fire an authentic pirate weapon? Three shots a MINUTE, and those rushed, is considered outstanding. The shot used weren't rifled, so accuracy at anything over twenty yards is almost comedic.

Sorry, but if you're going to talk weaponry, the ninjas are the superior force. A big, inaccurate bang is nothing compared to the stealthy kill.

DAMMIT! I got sucked in!
Ninjas were the superior fighting force. People forget that piracy still exists today, and has modernised considerably. Ninjas with swords and bows are no match for pirates with speedboats and machineguns and stolen night vision gear.
Ninja ftw.

Any piss drunk retard can grab a cutlass and call himself a pirate.

Being a ninja requires real stealth, agility, and skill.
Which is, if anything, an argument in favour of pirates. If you think pirates are awesome then you can become one, with little or no effort. To be a ninja requires a life time of training, so the majority of ninja supporters will never become ninjas.
Indeed. Vikings are basically a type of pirate. And no way ninjas can beat vikings. Vikings have the berserker rage and get to go to Valhalla even if they do die.
Pirates are descended from Vikings.

And, if you're gonna give ninjas magic, then pirates get to include a god (the FSM) as one of their advantages. Beat that!
Indeed. Omnipotence kind of trumps all your silly ninja tricks.

Also:

I think the second half pretty much says it. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0121.html)

Another great advantage. Pirates get women. Ninjas get to perv at women. I think there's a clear winner there.
Dalmatia Cisalpina
10-12-2007, 15:57
Rolling squid;13277860']they also confirmed the chain fired from the cannon and called knives, nails and one other thing plausible, IIRC.

Good point -- thanks!
Bottle
10-12-2007, 16:08
Six Reasons Why Pirates Are Better Than Ninjas

1. Ever heard a good shanty about ninjas? I think not.
2. Three quarters of the Earth's surface is water, so pirate mayhem can cover a larger surface area.
3. Ninjas are emo.
4. Becoming a pirate does not require years of tedious study at the hands of a strict and cryptic-metaphor-crazed master.
5. Grog.
6. A ninja with a peg leg is useless. A pirate with a peg leg is captain.
Ifreann
10-12-2007, 16:13
Six Reasons Why Pirates Are Better Than Ninjas

1. Ever heard a good shanty about ninjas? I think not.
2. Three quarters of the Earth's surface is water, so pirate mayhem can cover a larger surface area.
3. Ninjas are emo.
4. Becoming a pirate does not require years of tedious study at the hands of a strict and cryptic-metaphor-crazed master.
5. Grog.
6. A ninja with a peg leg is useless. A pirate with a peg leg is captain.

I think reason number 5 needs to be promoted to at least reason number 3.
Aelosia
10-12-2007, 16:27
Someone highlighted already that both Pirates and Ninjas were terrorists?

Way to go with your historical annoying glorification, me, I am going to teach my sons to adore Mujaedeen, they are as cool as any of those named before. Heck, that Osama Bin Laden was better than any pirate or ninja. Plane crashers for the win!
Bottle
10-12-2007, 16:30
Someone highlighted already that both Pirates and Ninjas were terrorists?

Way to go with your historical annoying glorification, me, I am going to teach my sons to adore Mujaedeen, they are as cool as any of those named before. Heck, that Osama Bin Laden was better than any pirate or ninja. Plane crashers for the win!
Reading this thread should probably clue you in to the fact that most of us are talking about the cartoonish parodies of pirate and ninjas.

Personally, I think the best way to strip terrorists of their power is to cartoonify them. After all, who is actually terrified of Captain Hook?
Ifreann
10-12-2007, 16:32
Someone highlighted already that both Pirates and Ninjas were terrorists?

Way to go with your historical annoying glorification, me, I am going to teach my sons to adore Mujaedeen, they are as cool as any of those named before. Heck, that Osama Bin Laden was better than any pirate or ninja. Plane crashers for the win!

Yeah but we leave out the terrorist bits and pretend that only the awesome bits are real.
Imperio Mexicano
10-12-2007, 16:33
apohasdgf balugedalgo

what the hell is your problem
those faceless boring ninjas'll cut off your dick and make you eat it:upyours:

ROFLMAO
Rambhutan
10-12-2007, 16:39
It's the socks that put me off the whole ninja thing - they look just so annoying.
Rhursbourg
10-12-2007, 17:14
Pirates where else can you run around with floppy boots, hats and flowing silks around your belly and still be man
Greater Trostia
10-12-2007, 17:19
Someone highlighted already that both Pirates and Ninjas were terrorists?

Well, only using the modernized definition of "terrorism," which would seem to include anyone who kills or threatens or harms or causes another to feel terror.
Aelosia
10-12-2007, 18:00
Reading this thread should probably clue you in to the fact that most of us are talking about the cartoonish parodies of pirate and ninjas.

Personally, I think the best way to strip terrorists of their power is to cartoonify them. After all, who is actually terrified of Captain Hook?

Aware of that. Yet, my point stands. Taking into account the exception of Hook, you do cartoonify both Pirates and Ninjas as heroes, either charming or honorable, and giving them many positive qualities that were either scarce or non existent. As both were terrorist, I would advise you to cartoonify both a villains. It helps to avoid giving a wrong message to the generations to come.

Yeah but we leave out the terrorist bits and pretend that only the awesome bits are real.

My problem exactly. With a twist, Osama Bin Laden is an awesome guy, with lots of awesome bits.

Well, only using the modernized definition of "terrorism," which would seem to include anyone who kills or threatens or harms or causes another to feel terror.

In both their times, ninjas and pirates were considered terrorists, people in the caribbean were so afraid of pirates that mothers used them as boogeyman, same in Japan with ninjas.
Greater Trostia
10-12-2007, 18:21
In both their times, ninjas and pirates were considered terrorists, people in the caribbean were so afraid of pirates that mothers used them as boogeyman, same in Japan with ninjas.

afraid of =/= "terrorist"

Among those not considered "terrorists" were samurai and regular soldiers of (say) the British Empire. Even though they regularly practiced violence on populations, often for a political goal. If we're going to retroactively apply the coined terms of today, we should do it consistently.
Vandal-Unknown
10-12-2007, 18:23
http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/gamespyarchive/index.php?date=2004-08-04

Cannibal Vikings anyone?
Curious Inquiry
10-12-2007, 18:54
Pirates are better because it has the word "pie" in it.
Imperio Mexicano
10-12-2007, 18:58
Pirates are better because it has the word "pie" in it.

Mmmm. Pie. :)
JuNii
10-12-2007, 19:10
the real question of which is better...

Pirate Ninjas
or
Ninja Pirates :p
JuNii
10-12-2007, 19:32
Six Reasons Why Pirates Are Better Than Ninjas

1. Ever heard a good shanty about ninjas? I think not.
2. Three quarters of the Earth's surface is water, so pirate mayhem can cover a larger surface area.
3. Ninjas are emo.
4. Becoming a pirate does not require years of tedious study at the hands of a strict and cryptic-metaphor-crazed master.
5. Grog.
6. A ninja with a peg leg is useless. A pirate with a peg leg is captain.

1) Kage no Gundan: the ninjas ran a public bathhouse as their cover. :p (also, a travelling theature, art shop, storefront) and they kept what they earned.
2) You see more Women Ninjas than Women Pirates
3) Pirates need to flash their jolly roger to get the job done. the Ninja only needs to know who/what their target is.
4) you can see a pirate. you won't see the ninja
5) when you see a ninja, it's only because he/she wants you to see him/her.
6) Ninjas can disguise themselves as pirates...
7) you know how many weapons a Pirate carries. you can only guess how many a ninja carries
8) Sake is better than Grog
9) A peg leg on a ninja would be a deadly weapon, not just a means of standing around.
10) An off duty ninja is less likely to be reconized as a ninja than a pirate on shore leave.
11) ever wonder about the gold and jewels that pirates wear? that's their pension.
Thandryn
10-12-2007, 19:36
Ninjas.

Pirate ninjas would frickin rock!!!
Tedthehunter
11-12-2007, 05:48
Ninjas.

Pirate ninjas would frickin rock!!!

I'm glad you voted for ninjas, but i do not agree with you in the fact that pirate ninjas would, as you say, frickin rock. Being that they are part pirate they are not as cool as they would be if they were llama ninjas or elephant ninjas:D:p
Tedthehunter
11-12-2007, 05:52
PIRATES! ARGH! They have cool songs!

"Yo Ho, Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life For Me..."

Catchphrases!

Pieces of Eight
Argh me hearties
sail the seven seas
shiver me timbers

I'm just wondering... if these songs and catchphrases are so "cool":rolleyes: then why are pirates so inferior to ninjas?!!!?!?!?!??!????!??!?!?!:confused:
Charlen
11-12-2007, 06:05
It's all about pirates. Anything ninjas can do pirates can do just as good if not better.
New Genoa
11-12-2007, 06:14
Pirates with ninjas for arms.
Tedthehunter
11-12-2007, 06:17
It's all about pirates. Anything ninjas can do pirates can do just as good if not better.

Oh yeah. I'd like to see a drunken pirate stealthily kill a ninja.
1. his clunking wooden peg leg would warn every ninja for miles that there was something going on
2. he'd most likely be so drunk that he would burst into a chorous of "yo ho, yo ho, a pirates life for me" causing every ninja in the vincinity to kill him
3. if these two things didn't happen the sheer smell of a pirate who probably hasn't even seen a bathtub for years would alert any ninjas around
in conclusion, a ninja could probably do a lot of things that pirates wouldn't evevn be able to dream of doing:upyours:
Rambhutan
11-12-2007, 10:32
4) you can see a pirate. you won't see the ninja


Donn Draeger's Comprehensive Asian Fighting Arts has a section on some of the ninja's secret 'invisibility' techniques - my favourite is "hide behind a bush".
Vyvard
11-12-2007, 10:37
Niether.

Vikings, end thread.
Murflonia
11-12-2007, 10:39
When was the last time you saw a ninja with wenches?

but seriously, who cares? :confused:
Soviestan
11-12-2007, 23:00
Pirates, duh. I don't see how this is even a debate.
Creepy Lurker
11-12-2007, 23:04
Pirates hold off global warming. What have ninja ever done?
RAmen.
JuNii
11-12-2007, 23:09
Pirates hold off global warming. What have ninja ever done?
RAmen.

Ninjas actually do more environmentally than Pirates.

After all, watch both of them working... you see huge clouds of smoke, loud noises and all the water pollution where pirates operate. Ninjas? they're quiet, less smoke, less pollution.
UNS Command
11-12-2007, 23:34
Ninjas.

Pirates wouldn't stand a chance. Nor anyone who is against them. Be expecting a silent killer slicing your throat all you pirate-lovers.

:p
Rhanukhan
12-12-2007, 00:11
Close call but Pirates have a certain flamboyant extravagance and sense of the theatrical that Ninjas (Ninjae?) are hard pressed to match - I'm gonna have to cast my vote for the Pirates... ye scurvy dog, yahaaarrrrr!
Tedthehunter
12-12-2007, 05:28
Close call but Pirates have a certain flamboyant extravagance and sense of the theatrical that Ninjas (Ninjae?) are hard pressed to match - I'm gonna have to cast my vote for the Pirates... ye scurvy dog, yahaaarrrrr!

The proper plural term for ninja is actually ninja. Kind of like with fish, or moose, or deer. I just put ninjas because anyone stupider than the average joe would have no idea what the hell I was talking about.:p
Endopolis
12-12-2007, 07:24
A ninja SUICIDES when discovered, the pirate just gets drunk.
Gauthier
12-12-2007, 08:42
http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/ninjaclown.JPG

The Last Ninja Clown. Beware.

Okay folks, this old hat has been done to death. How about a tag team match?

Ninja and Pirates versus Cavemen and Astronauts. Which side wins?
Greater Trostia
12-12-2007, 09:51
A ninja SUICIDES when discovered, the pirate just gets drunk.

That's why ninjas went extinct, while pirates still roam the seven seas to this day.

Evolution proves that pirates are more successful, biologically.

THE POWER OF SCIENCE COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF SCIENCE COMPELS YOU!
Hoyteca
13-12-2007, 09:39
I still say pirates. Ninjas went extinct for a reason. They just couldn't keep up with pirates. Their strict training meant that their numbers remained small.

Pirates had a certain expendability and adaptability factor going on. You kill one entire crew and three crews emerge to replace it. You destroy them and you then have nine.
Atopiana
13-12-2007, 10:04
Pirates. You can't compete with a speedboat full of goons with LMGs and RPGs, let alone twenty of said speedboats and an Indonesian Navy gunboat. :p