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Greatest Team in NFL History

IDF
08-12-2007, 07:39
What is it? With the undefeated Patriots, this is bound to be an issue. The 72 phins might end up in the news too if the Patriots lose.

I'm of course going with my biased choice of the 1985 Chicago Bears, but I can back it up.

Defense The Bears had the greatest defense in NFL history. 10 of the 11 starters were Pro-Bowlers. The only non-Pro Bowler on the defense was William "The Refrigerator" Perry.

It is very rare that the players in the trenches get recognition, but the Bear line was good enough that everyone knows that line. On one end you had Richard Dent. He will eventually be in the hall of fame as he was a 4 time Pro-Bowler and Superbowl MVP. At the opposite side the defensive end was hall of famer Dan "The Danimal" Hampton. Those two ends have a combined 220+ sacks. That is an amazing pass rush for down linemen. The defensive tackles were Perry (who wasn't great, but he stuffed the run and did his job) and Steve McMichael. He was a Pro-Bowler and recorded nearly 100 sacks from the defensive tackle position (which is hard as sacks are easier off the ends).

The linebacking corp was the best in NFL history. Singletary, Wilson, and Marshall were unstoppable. Singletary may not have been the best MLB in Bear history (Butkus has that distinction) he was certainly the smartest. He worked well with his two OLBs. The talent at linebacker allowed Buddy Ryan to implement the 46 Defense. Wilson and Marshall linedup on the same side of the line and were able to blitz at will netting several sacks. No O-line could block them. The 46 set sent 7 pass rushers after the QB and made the Bears defense the best in NFL history.

The secondary was amazing too. Fencik and Frazier were an amazing pair at safety. Fencik was near the end of his career, but was still amazing. Frazier unfortunately suffered a knee injury in the Superbowl which ended his career during a period when he was showing amazing upside. The corners of Duerson and Richardon ensured that the QBs couldn't dump passes off to avoid sacks from the blitzing linebackers of the 46 set.

Offense McMahon wasn't a hall of fame QB, but he was great when healthy. Realize he only was a starter for 4 years before Charles Martin destroyed his shoulder in the cheapshot at Green Bay. McMahon never started after that point and was a good QB until that bullshit. He was a mobile QB who scrambled as well as Steve Young and even caught a few TD passes (courtesy of Walter Payton).

The runningbacks don't even need mention. The Bears had Walter Payton, the greatest football player in NFL history. Sanders and Sayers were better rushers, but Payton could run, block, pass, and catch. He was the most complete football player ever. He led the team in receptions and the NFC in rushing despite the fact he was on the downside of his career at this point and already the NFL's all-time leading rusher. Suhey was a great fullback who blocked for Payton and scored during the Superbowl.

The receivers were good too. Gault was faster than Hester ever will be. He was an Olympic sprinter who got screwed by the US boycott in 1980. He recently set the world record for the over 40 age bracket in the 100. He was an amazing receiver and kick returner as no one could catch him. McKinnon wasn't fast, but he had great hands. Moorehead was a great Tightend who could block and catch as needed.

Coaching and other stuff The Bears had Ditka (who can kick Chuck Norris's ass) and Buddy Ryan. Enough said. Oh and did I mention they did it without stealing radio signals from the other team? Fuck off Belichick! Ditka did it all on his own, AND he also beat a hurricane, won the Indy 500 (driving a giant bus), and won the gold medal in Olympic basketball all on his own. some of you will get that last joke

As for playoff performances, the Bears only allowed 10 points in 3 playoff games. They shut out two of their 3 playoff opponents and 7 of the 10 points were scored against a second string defense.
1010102
08-12-2007, 07:48
2007 Minnesota Vikings. I am biased of course. It doesn't help that the last time we had a near undefeated season was when I was 5.:(
Pepe Dominguez
08-12-2007, 07:53
Dumb question.

Any answer other than the '84-'85 Bears is just ignorant.
Marrakech II
08-12-2007, 07:57
Dumb question.

Any answer other than the '84-'85 Bears is just ignorant.

Have to agree. I think most on these boards can't remember this team because they either were not born or just to young.
Achermov
08-12-2007, 08:09
Sophisticatedly speaking, just because a team has all the best players doesn't necessarily mean it is, by default, the best. Heck, look at Tim Tebow and the Gators this year (Yeah, I know, that ain't pro, but you get the drift). Personally, I'd be hard-pressed to give that title to any team OTHER than the 1972 Miami Dolphins... Until, of course, we see what the Pats end up doing this year.
Anti-Social Darwinism
08-12-2007, 08:34
I think we can agree that, whoever the best team is, it isn't the Raiders.
Marrakech II
08-12-2007, 08:40
I think we can agree that, whoever the best team is, it isn't the Raiders.

QFT
IDF
08-12-2007, 09:46
I think we can agree that, whoever the best team is, it isn't the Raiders.

They do have the coolest fan of all time though. Who would face off against Darth Raider?
Anti-Social Darwinism
08-12-2007, 10:00
They do have the coolest fan of all time though. Who would face off against Darth Raider?

Raider's fans don't even like each other.
Kyronea
08-12-2007, 10:15
They do have the coolest fan of all time though. Who would face off against Darth Raider?

Any Bronco fan worth their salt or what have you, of course.

As for the question, I've honestly no idea. My football interest has a tendency to wax and wane, and right now it has very much waned down to nigh nil.
Callisdrun
08-12-2007, 11:02
The NFL is pretty blah compared to the rollercoaster world of College Football.

But I vote Oakland.
Forsakia
08-12-2007, 12:38
I'll display my complete lack of NFL historical knowledge here by saying the 85 NFC Pro Bowl Team. And probably several other pro bowl teams at various points.
Jello Biafra
08-12-2007, 12:47
With the undefeated Patriots, Not after Sunday they won't be.
Naturality
08-12-2007, 15:29
I really don't know enough to make a certain claim, but I do know enough to say the 85 Bears could possibly be it. And didn't the Bears almost go undefeated some year back then? Iirc .. they were only beaten by the Dolphins who did go undefeated.. and I guess are still the only undefeated ..72' Dolphins. I always though that was interesting.
Intangelon
08-12-2007, 15:37
Apples to oranges. Different eras, different rules, no real way to have them compete. Pointless argument -- but then again, it's an argument about sports, it was pointless before it was uttered.

Sorry, but I like football and lots of other sports, but yammering about impossible comparisons is one of those things (like baseball fans and their religion of Statisticology), that ruins the simple fun of watching a game.
Corneliu 2
08-12-2007, 15:44
I think we can agree that, whoever the best team is, it isn't the Raiders.

Here here!

They do have the coolest fan of all time though. Who would face off against Darth Raider?

That I cannot argue with.

Raider's fans don't even like each other.

That's false.

The NFL is pretty blah compared to the rollercoaster world of College Football.

But I vote Oakland.

Oakland sucks balls.

The '97-'98 Broncos gets my vote.
Nouvelle Wallonochie
08-12-2007, 15:47
I think we can agree that, whoever the best team is, it isn't the Lions.

Fixed.
Naturality
08-12-2007, 16:24
Apples to oranges. Different eras, different rules, no real way to have them compete. Pointless argument -- but then again, it's an argument about sports, it was pointless before it was uttered.

Sorry, but I like football and lots of other sports, but yammering about impossible comparisons is one of those things (like baseball fans and their religion of Statisticology), that ruins the simple fun of watching a game.


Not sure if you were talking to me, but if so ... I wasn't comparing them. Just brought up an interesting bit of football history.
Intestinal fluids
08-12-2007, 16:45
I have to give the Best team award to The San Fransisco 49ers in the Montana/ Jerry Rice days. Best QB and best receiver ever to play in the NFL on the same team. The "new" 90s west coast offence would have destroyed the Bears defence of 85
Dalmatia Cisalpina
08-12-2007, 17:26
Obligatory Ignorant Answer: The '72 Dolphins. :D

Answer Which Proves I Actually Watch American Football: The 49ers in the Joe Montana days.
Callisdrun
08-12-2007, 23:28
Oakland sucks balls.

The '97-'98 Broncos gets my vote.

Oakland thinks you suck balls.