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Seven Year old girl takes six bullets for mom

Tarlachia
06-12-2007, 23:57
LINK (http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2007/12/05/seven-year-old-girl-takes-six-bullets-for-mom/?ncid=NWS00010000000001)

When a horrible thing happens, no one likes to sit around and think about how it could have been more horrible. But if someone was to do that, it's usually possible to make a bad situation worse by putting a child into jeopardy. That's why this story, from Detroit, makes the word "sad" seem thin and imprecise.

There's a common, depressing story behind it -- enraged ex-boyfriend decides to shoot woman. (It might be a little more common in Detroit, which was recently named the country's most dangerous city, a designation that touched off a number of local protests and national news analyses.) But what happens when the woman's seven-year-old daughter (some reports have her as eight) jumps between her mom and the gunman? In this case, the seven-year-old, Alexis Goggins, was shot six times, suffering gunshot wounds to the eye, left temple, chin, cheek, chest and right arm. Here is an excerpt from a news report:

The girl's mother, Selietha Parker, 30, was shot in the left side of her head and her bicep by a former boyfriend, who police said was trying to kill Parker. The gunman was disarmed by police and arrested at the scene of the shooting, a Detroit gas station. Police identified him as Calvin Tillie, 29, a four-time convicted felon whom Parker had dated for six months.

Parker, who was treated and released at Detroit Receiving Hospital, is now at her daughter's bedside. She declined to comment Tuesday. The drama began to unfold just before midnight Saturday, when Parker called [her friend Aisha] Ford and asked if she and Alexis could spend the night at Ford's home. "She said she had no heat and they were very cold, and I said , sure I'll come and get you," Ford said.

Ford said she drove her burgundy 1998 Ford Expedition to Parker's home on Dwyer. She said as Parker and Alexis walked up to her vehicle she saw a man on the porch, who she assumed was a furnace repairman. She said Alexis, who walks with a limp, slipped momentarily on the icy sidewalk and as she helped the girl up, she saw the man and recognized him as Tillie. He was holding a gun.

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The police report said Tillie "without hesitation" pumped six shots into the child.

As police arrived, they saw Parker, covered in blood, running from the truck, screaming, "He just shot my baby."

The officers said Tillie came out to the vehicle holding a blue steel 9 mm semi automatic and dropped the weapon when ordered to do so. Officers said they found Alexis huddled on the floor under the steering wheel, covered in blood, surrounded by spent cartridge casings, a spent bullet on the floor and teeth on the seat. There were bullet holes in the windshield and blood inside.


The gunman was disarmed and arrested at the scene.

The girl is in stable condition, though she's already fighting an uphill battle -- when she was an infant, she had a massive stroke, and now receives special education due in part to her limited eyesight.

A fund has been set up for the girl through her elementary school. Does an incident like this raise all kinds of uncomfortable questions about justice (both justice for Tillie and the injustice of Alexis's shooting), fate, fairness, and tragedy, or is it the kind of event that raises no questions at all, only emotions?

This just enrages me. I can't believe someone would be so damn cruel. On the other hand, this kid just took six bullets and survived. The mother also took multiple bullets as well.

I wonder if they're superheroes or something...
Kecibukia
07-12-2007, 00:00
This part gets me:

"Police identified him as Calvin Tillie, 29, a four-time convicted felon whom Parker had dated for six months."

WTF was he doing out of jail as a 4x convicted felon and WTF was the mother thinking?

That report didn't mention it but another said that 911 had hung up on her once and told her a unit wasn't available the 2nd time.
Trollgaard
07-12-2007, 00:01
Why didn't they gun the fucker down in the street?!
Nouvelle Wallonochie
07-12-2007, 00:02
I wonder if they're superheroes or something...

They're Detroiters, which is close enough. The weak ones were weeded out generations ago.
CthulhuFhtagn
07-12-2007, 00:02
WTF was he doing out of jail as a 4x convicted felon and WTF was the mother thinking?

Well, if he committed the lowest level of felonies possible (theft of an item worth $500, if I'm not mistaken) he could conceivably have not spent that much time in jail.
Intangelon
07-12-2007, 00:04
This part gets me:

"Police identified him as Calvin Tillie, 29, a four-time convicted felon whom Parker had dated for six months."

WTF was he doing out of jail as a 4x convicted felon and WTF was the mother thinking?

That report didn't mention it but another said that 911 had hung up on her once and told her a unit wasn't available the 2nd time.

Yes, because all men tell each prosepective girlfriend that they're a four-time convicted felon. :rolleyes:

However, the rest of your question is perfectly legitimate, and the answer is prison overcrowding (likely due, at least in part, to madatory minimums for people caught with a couple of joints, but that's a whole 'nother topic).
Mirkana
07-12-2007, 00:11
Someone give this girl a medal. And enough money so she can pay for any college in the world.
Tarlachia
07-12-2007, 00:11
They're Detroiters, which is close enough. The weak ones were weeded out generations ago.

I wouldn't know... I live in northern Florida. The worst we gotta battle around here are the nutty old farts who drive as if their cars are mandatory to move as slow as they walk. That, and the equally frightening kids driving like the Daytona 500 is held on everyday streets. I've had more than one accident/close calls in which someone driving like that was involved. Stupid kids.

Oh, and I'm 24, so I'm not THAT old... Not like Lunatic Goofballs who's celebrating his 35th year of worldly goofiness...
JuNii
07-12-2007, 00:14
more info (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5352346.html)
This part gets me:

"Police identified him as Calvin Tillie, 29, a four-time convicted felon whom Parker had dated for six months."

WTF was he doing out of jail as a 4x convicted felon and WTF was the mother thinking?

That report didn't mention it but another said that 911 had hung up on her once and told her a unit wasn't available the 2nd time.

Police identified him as Calvin Tillie, 29, a four-time convicted felon who Parker had dated for six months before breaking off the relationship.
usually most people don't like to say they were in prison and for what. so it seems she didn't know and when she found out she tried to leave him.

Before Tillie could fire again, Alexis jumped over the seat between her mother and the gunman and begged him not to shoot her mother.

The police report said Tillie "without hesitation" pumped six shots into the child. :(

and info for those wanting to contribute (http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071205/UPDATE/712050466)...
Call to power
07-12-2007, 00:50
why is it the kids always suffer? :(

WTF was he doing out of jail as a 4x convicted felon and WTF was the mother thinking?

I think a bigger question is WTF is going on with re-offending rates in American prisons
Tekania
07-12-2007, 01:28
why is it the kids always suffer? :(



I think a bigger question is WTF is going on with re-offending rates in American prisons

Well, If you were to interview the average prison inmate about their crime, and what will happen after their release, somewhere in the conversation will be the phrase "I'm not comin' back here again"... Which to them is a translation of the idea "I'm going to do it better next time, so I won't get caught".... They generally do this by picking up crime tips from other inmates (apparently not thinking that these peoples "advise" can be all that good, since they are ALSO in prison)...
The Black Forrest
07-12-2007, 01:34
why is it the kids always suffer? :(

I think a bigger question is WTF is going on with re-offending rates in American prisons

Hmm?

Probably because the programs have been slashed to nothing.....
Marrakech II
07-12-2007, 02:42
Why didn't they gun the fucker down in the street?!

I would have and that is probably why I would never be able to be a cop.
Jayate
07-12-2007, 02:49
Why didn't they gun the fucker down in the street?!

They don't gun down this moron yet they shoot 21 holes into a man when he reached into his pocket for his wallet.
Cazelia
07-12-2007, 02:49
I hope that bastard gets the chair
Marrakech II
07-12-2007, 02:52
They don't gun down this moron yet they shoot 21 holes into a man when he reached into his pocket for his wallet.

Difference is that this puke dropped his gun while the other guy was reaching into his pocket as you stated. Also depends on how itchy the cops finger is.
JuNii
07-12-2007, 02:54
They don't gun down this moron yet they shoot 21 holes into a man when he reached into his pocket for his wallet.

the problem is the child shooting bastard gave up and followed the officer's commands. the man who reached for his wallet probably did so after the officer repeatedly told him to put his hands up and lie down.

tho that's the first impression, if you can provide a link to this wallet shooting incident...
Mirkana
07-12-2007, 03:01
I hope that bastard gets the chair

They can fry him for all I care.
Cazelia
07-12-2007, 03:05
Or better yet, Do what BL did to me on II...

GIANT BLENDER!!!!!
JuNii
07-12-2007, 03:08
Or better yet, Do what BL did to me on II...

GIANT BLENDER!!!!!

sorry, saving that for the giant margaritas...

now we got a wood chipper but the blades are kinda dull...
Nouvelle Wallonochie
07-12-2007, 03:09
I hope that bastard gets the chair

Nope. We haven't had the death penalty for 161 years, so it's life in prison for him. Of course, I hear the Southern Michigan Correctional Facility isn't exactly the most pleasant place in the world.
Cazelia
07-12-2007, 03:12
That's too bad...
New Shropshire
07-12-2007, 03:15
Save The Human Targets, Save the World.
My theory on how they survived.
Mirkana
07-12-2007, 03:24
Save The Human Targets, Save the World.
My theory on how they survived.

Revise my previous comment. Give this girl a medal, a college fund, and a copy of the Heroes Season 1 DVD set autographed by Hayden Panettiere.
Egy Nemzet
07-12-2007, 03:44
Sadly the one we need to worry about now is the child. That asshole won't get out of this alive if I know mankind at all! He goes to jail he will have to be put in solitary because even the worst criminals are against crimes toward children. He wouldn't last a day outside solitary. And let out of jail he would be shot down before he reaches the parking lot. Times like this we have a tendency to abolish regular laws. :sniper: nuff said there. The time now is to take care of the child and do our damnedest to see that this sort of thing never happens again.
Katganistan
07-12-2007, 03:53
They don't gun down this moron yet they shoot 21 holes into a man when he reached into his pocket for his wallet.

Well, arguably, when the fellow reached for a wallet, they thought he was reaching for a gun -- while this heartless bastard put the gun down and did as they told him... in other words, they believed the person who did not obey them was endangering them (mistakenly) but were not endangered by this psycho.

They are supposed to arrest him, not execute him because we're outraged at his inhumanity.

Egy Nemzet, what version of reality are you using? It seems a bit flawed. I can't recall offhand any instances of criminals serving their time and being shot down as they left prison, let alone enough of them to make that a certainty.
Zilam
07-12-2007, 03:53
I don't know why, but when I read this thread I thought of this lyric:

there's thirty-three shots
from twin glocks there's sixteen apiece, that's thirty-two
Which means, one of my guns was holdin seventeen
Twenty-seven hit your crew, six went into you
Tarlachia
07-12-2007, 04:05
I don't know why, but when I read this thread I thought of this lyric:

Zilam...that's only mildly disturbing that you thought of that. Are you a terrorist?

*lightbulb turns on*

*flickers*
Zilam
07-12-2007, 04:33
Are you a terrorist?



Lol! Funny you should ask. I'll let my t-shirt tell you:

http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a192/piggy_g87/?action=view&current=DCFC0027-1.jpg
Tarlachia
07-12-2007, 04:45
Lol! Funny you should ask. I'll let my t-shirt tell you:

http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a192/piggy_g87/?action=view&current=DCFC0027-1.jpg

Haha, that's awesome.

And, since we're sorta on the topic, here's something funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go
Gun Manufacturers
07-12-2007, 04:46
He's screwed. Not only is he going to face two counts of attempted murder, but possession of a firearm/ammunition by a felon. I'm guessing with those charges, plus the fact that he's already a 4 time loser, he'll get life in prison if/when convicted.
South Lizasauria
07-12-2007, 06:08
Or better yet, Do what BL did to me on II...

GIANT BLENDER!!!!!

How come no one mentions my giant toaster or unbirth execution methods? :(
South Lizasauria
07-12-2007, 06:10
reading this reminds me why I supported the genocide of criminals of all forms when I first came here. :mad: anti-social bastards, all they do is cause suffering for others.
New Genoa
07-12-2007, 07:03
reading this reminds me why I supported the genocide of criminals of all forms when I first came here. :mad: anti-social bastards, all they do is cause suffering for others.

:rolleyes:
Wilgrove
07-12-2007, 07:58
He should get life in prison, and he should be released into the general prison population. We all know what happened the last time a criminal did a criminal act against children.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/103/255299325_82a2ee3083.jpg

Hell, I would pay the guards personally to look the other way while the General Population had their way with this punk.