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Though many of the posters here have their head in their rear, I must say that I believe most of the people on NS are somewhat intelligent.

What say the rest of you?

Duhhhh...........

I like pie. :)

I like pie. :)

This verifies it.

Hmm chicken whoa sorry errm yes I have seen some intelligent discusions on here during my lurking

Apparently not smart enough to know the difference between "then" and "than".

Apparently not smart enough to know the difference between "then" and "than".

Pardon me Fass.

Faux Pas.

http://www.indianajones.de/indy3/pics/goofs_33.jpg

Apparently not smart enough to know the difference between "then" and "than".

I was thinking the same thing.

Pardon me Fass.

Faux Pas.

http://www.indianajones.de/indy3/pics/goofs_33.jpg

Well, if you're going to make a thread about the intelligence of NSers, it is kind of sad to have such a basic error in the title. It has nothing to do with trolling, but more basic grammar and word choice.

And I'm kind of curious about this recent obsession with the phrase "Faux Pas"

i actually do think that NSers are smarter, then average. sticking around makes us more stupider over time.

And I'm kind of curious about this recent obsession with the phrase "Faux Pas"

I guess that's because it was in a thread title a week ago, but spelled paux fas irrc.

NSers are not smarter than people who do not post on NS, but they think they are.

I guess that's because it was in a thread title a week ago, but spelled paux fas irrc.

Yeah...I think Parkus started that thread too, but I'm not sure...

Though many of the posters here have their head in their rear, I must say that I believe most of the people on NS are somewhat intelligent.

What say the rest of you?

I think most of them are.... but you still have:


If you are a dee....
Do not marry a dee...
Because, then your kids will be....
DEE DE-DEE

Than the average fellow who is not here? I would say so. Engaging in discussion will always make you smarter, but discussion of this sort doesn't usually come up.

The use of superfluous words does not indicate intelligence, but it does make one seem really smart. Mm, my English teacher would be so proud.

But, the fact that most people here take the time to read the news and such, I'd say that maybe NSers are just a tad smarter than Average Joe.

Yes, we are.

Most of the stupidity here has causes other than paucity of intellect.

*drools*
"ugghhh..."
*looks down*
"h...hey...!"
*wipes off drool with sleeve*
"...uuuughhhhh..."
"Me smart!"
:headbang:

:confused:

No, c'mon guys and girls, for real - to play a text-based browser game in any other time period than the mid 80's, you must be some kind of nerd. And nerds tend to be quite smart. Well, than again, NS isn't really very hard to play, since there is essentially no negative feedback.
I'd say the people you meet on the forums are quite smart as long as you keep your eyes on the right topics. The vast majority of non-forum nations is hard to judge. I've talked to some right-wing representatives, and... well look at the lines above.

probably. I mean, I know I am.

I think it's safe to say NSGers are significantly more OPINIONATED than the average person, and more outspoken, at least on the Internet.

As for smarter... I dunno I've seen quite a few instances that have made me question people's reading comprehension.

well the first comment seems true,but if you look around on the forums you find plenty of people who disprove your theory.

Yes most people here are smarter than average joe, however they usually aren't very well socially adapted (good at making friends):sniper:, thus need more time to think before they speak, although it might be interesting it's usually too late in a real situation (with some execeptions but not many).

What counts as intelligence?:( IQ? I found that if you repeat IQ tests you can get better at them, this is not meant to happen, but it does.:headbang:
A smart comment? well anyone can copy another persons work and change a few words right?:cool:

So yeah i suppose most people are smarter on Ns but are usually more arrogant as a result, this might be good or bad depending on the person.

I'd say we're a bit smarted than normal, we just spend all our time on here and forget to study/do homework/go to work, ect, and end up looking stupid
IRL.

I like pie. :)

Cake is better though, and Cheesecake rule supreme!

Cake is better though, and Cheesecake rule supreme!

cheescake is not cake, its more like pie. pie is better, there is no debate, it is in fact, a fact.

cheescake is not cake, its more like pie. pie is better, there is no debate, it is in fact, a fact.

It is too a cake, it says so in the name.

No. We're average. The only difference is that we've become interested in politics and learning about it, debating about it, and so on and so forth. We're more intellectual, perhaps, but not more intelligent.

Yes, but that says more about the average than it does about the users.

well the first comment seems true,but if you look around on the forums you find plenty of people who disprove your theory.

Yes most people here are smarter than average joe, however they usually aren't very well socially adapted (good at making friends):sniper:, thus need more time to think before they speak, although it might be interesting it's usually too late in a real situation (with some execeptions but not many).

What counts as intelligence?:( IQ? I found that if you repeat IQ tests you can get better at them, this is not meant to happen, but it does.:headbang:
A smart comment? well anyone can copy another persons work and change a few words right?:cool:

So yeah i suppose most people are smarter on Ns but are usually more arrogant as a result, this might be good or bad depending on the person.

honestly, how does one get the "posting for noobs in 3 simple steps" memo? i feel like i missed out somehow.

Some are, many aren't. That is all I am going to say.

What counts as intelligence?:( IQ? I found that if you repeat IQ tests you can get better at them, this is not meant to happen, but it does.:headbang:


Yeah, and you know what's best about that? IQ tests simply test how well your brain can cope with problems it confronts, and your result in such a test is then transfered to real life, which means that essentially, you will not only get better at IQ tests if you repeat them, but your brain can simulate intelligence by adapting to the situation (of course, that's an _awful lot_ of situations you have to go through until you can simulate high intelligence in real life).
Lil' off-topic, I know.

Back to the topic.
Are NS player smarter than average? Well, let me put it this way: On NS, I could post discussions on quantum mechanics, the nature of consciousness, and the end of the universe - and was still labeled as a 13-year old by some players, whereas in real life, all I got for even mentioning these topics was:

You'd be surprised how smart I look in World Cultures because of reading the shit here.

Apparently not smart enough to know the difference between "then" and "than".

Looks like Fass needs to learn himself what an average is.

On average, I'd say NSGers are smarter than average, but not because of anything on this forum. I'm basing my opinion on the following:

We are all literate--Not great, but better than about 18% of the world.
We all have computers, or at least access to computers--Again, not great itself, but we all live in places with a certain standard of infrastructure. Owning a computer also means we probably are middle-class, and while money doesn't imply intelligence, it does correlate with education.

And, as much as I hate to admit it, there are some really smart people here. They alone may bring the average up.

It's easy to sound smart, you just need long words and pseudo-intellectual arguments, however being actually being smart doesn't rely on just being a walking thesaurus. That being said, the NSs' who are basically discussing politics, economics and war through the medium of their countries, probably are smart.

It's easy to sound smart, you just need long words and pseudo-intellectual arguments, however being actually being smart doesn't rely on just being a walking thesaurus. That being said, the NSs' who are basically discussing politics, economics and war through the medium of their countries, probably are smart.

Discussing intelligent topics doesn't make you intelligent though... only having a valid, well-thought out opinion on the topic.

Though many of the posters here have their head in their rear, I must say that I believe most of the people on NS are somewhat intelligent.

What say the rest of you?
I'd say that NS General tends to attract a slightly better informed person, thus making them seem smarter. I am relatively well informed, have an IQ of 130, and am in Honors classes. Does that make me smart? You decide what "smart" does or does not entail.

Probably not, just more politically aware.

Though many of the posters here have their head in their rear, I must say that I believe most of the people on NS are somewhat intelligent.

What say the rest of you?

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

:D

The correct word is then.

Probably we are smarter than average. Playing with the trolls tends to dumb us down, though.

The average might be higher, I doubt it is lower, than average.

The standard deviation's gotta be massive though.

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

:D

my cat's food smells like cat breath :eek:

NSG is a self selecting group, therefore they are bound to have some sort of similar interest, after my travels through, I doubt IQ is it.

The correct word is then.

I think you mean than.

Ignorant, arrogant, socialist liberals? No, they're often stupider.

Ignorant, arrogant, socialist liberals? No, they're often stupider.

Pot meet kettle. Kettle meet pot.

I bring the average down.

The correct word is then.
No...the correct word is "thAn". Then implies causation or temporal situations: I went to the store, then I went home.
The boy hit his friend, then got suspended.

Than implies a value: 3 is less than 5.
I am smarter than you.

yes NS'ers are smarter than the average.

duh.

the average is brought down by the mentally handicapped and the significantly stupid. those who are not able to read and write sufficiently to post here.

since everyone on NS is smart enough to read, our average intelligence is higher than that of general humanity. we dont have those of an IQ of... 75 and lower to pull down our average.

Though many of the posters here have their head in their rear, I must say that I believe most of the people on NS are somewhat intelligent.

What say the rest of you?

Firstly, the average internet user is more intelligent than their national average.

Second, NSers are more intelligent than the average internet user. The "old" internet (the tech sites and academic networks) would clean the floor with us, but the average intelligence of internet users is shown pretty plainly by YouTube.

The advantage that computer competence and reading skills give to the improvised games of the NS stable suggests all of NS is above-average. The premium we place on good writing clinches the matter.

We is all so smart!

No...the correct word is "thAn". Then implies causation or temporal situations: I went to the store, then I went home.
The boy hit his friend, then got suspended.

Than implies a value: 3 is less than 5.
I am smarter than you.

Prescriptivist grammar is always for the lose.

Absolutely not.
NS'ers on average are as dumb as average folk.

Then implies causation or temporal situations: I went to the store, then I went home.
The boy hit his friend, then got suspended.

or orders in general

i am smarter. then you, and then billy.

Absolutely not.
NS'ers on average are as dumb as average folk.

Agreed.

Absolutely not.
NS'ers on average are as dumb as average folk.

Would you give them credit for being more literate than the average?

I would say around par, but the positive effect I have on the average of the smaller set of NSers is much greater than the average of the world.

So on average, NSers are smarter than the rest of the world.

Would you give them credit for being more literate than the average?

Not at all.
On average NSers are as literate as the average literate person is literate.

Literally.

i am smarter. then you, and then billy.

Ugh! What a horrible statement.

Watch out Billy doesn't get his head stuck in an iron pot or something.

No. Any idiot can make an account. Then of course, any genius can make an account too...

I would say around par, but the positive effect I have on the average of the smaller set of NSers is much greater than the average of the world.

So on average, NSers are smarter than the rest of the world.

Depends on your definition of 'positive' :P

I would say that many on NSG think they are smarter than average...

No. Any idiot can make an account. Then of course, any genius can make an account too...

My account is a self-evolving artificial intelligence

Not at all.
On average NSers are as literate as the average literate person is literate.

Literally.

Your post is an excellent example of how smart people can fart around. Quite simply, they find life easier and are often less sincere or compassionate.

Some intelligent people really use their intelligence to do social good. I'm not one of those. I'm of the farting-around school.

Yourself?

Your post is an excellent example of how smart people can fart around. Quite simply, they find life easier and are often less sincere or compassionate.

Some intelligent people really use their intelligence to do social good. I'm not one of those. I'm of the farting-around school.

Yourself?

I am a sincere, if not compassionate, individual, who does not find life particularly easy.

However, if I did belong to a school, it would be the flatulent one.

My account is a self-evolving artificial intelligence

What do you AI's do for drugs? A bit of ripple in your PSU?

i am smarter. then you, and then billy.

Shouldn't that be "smartest"?

Shouldn't that be "smartest"?

see previous post about smartness vs time spent on nsg

see previous post about smartness vs time spent on nsg

Is it inversely proportional?

see previous post about smartness vs time spent on nsg

But if we start off smart, theoretically we would realize this tendency, and not participate in the first place.

Unless we are also weak-willed. Which does make a kind of sense.

I am a sincere, if not compassionate, individual, who does not find life particularly easy.

The subjective experience depends more on your attitude than intelligence. Some people just muddle through and don't mind failure much.

Perhaps it comes down to this: the more perceptive mind judges success more harshly. It's hard for a really intelligent person to be entirely satisfied with the new jet-ski they saved for, or indeed with one of their own thoughts.

What I really meant was: more intelligent people achieve external standards of success (good job, money, respect of peers) more easily, all else being equal. Consequently, they can become quite complacent (even becoming quite dumb, sometimes, from lack of application.)

However, if I did belong to a school, it would be the flatulent one.

I learnt this at the knee of Python, and will ever be a good disciple.

*gives the secret Masonic Fart*

The subjective experience depends more on your attitude than intelligence. Some people just muddle through and don't mind failure much.

Perhaps it comes down to this: the more perceptive mind judges success more harshly. It's hard for a really intelligent person to be entirely satisfied with the new jet-ski they saved for, or indeed with one of their own thoughts.

What I really meant was: more intelligent people achieve external standards of success (good job, money, respect of peers) more easily, all else being equal. Consequently, they can become quite complacent (even becoming quite dumb, sometimes, from lack of application.)

Ah. This makes me feel depressed. Or it would, if I wanted to feel depressed.
I learnt this at the knee of Python, and will ever be a good disciple.

*gives the secret Masonic Fart*
*reciprocates*

On an unrelated note, this is the most hilarious thing I have stumbled upon in the past few months.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=544570
That is the link to the "SB1959...Should we worry?" thread.

If you don't laugh, chuckle, or fall off your chair, you don't get it.(speaking to anyone who bothers to find out what I mean)

Is it inversely proportional?

Obviously not?:confused:

Edit: Maybe?

see previous post about smartness vs time spent on nsg
Is it inversely proportional?

But that proves nothing unless you can show causality.

I feel myself getting dumber after a few hours posting here. Rather than blaming all you dumb people for that, I infer that I'm just getting lazy. I read the tone of the conversations and get into the groove where it's easy to post and I don't have to think much or even read the links right through.

After about 6 hours, my stuff turns to complete spam. Woo, can I be stupid. Add alcohol, and frankly anything I post after 8pm local time should just be ignored.

But that proves nothing unless you can show causality.

I feel myself getting dumber after a few hours posting here. Rather than blaming all you dumb people for that, I infer that I'm just getting lazy. I read the tone of the conversations and get into the groove where it's easy to post and I don't have to think much or even read the links right through.

After about 6 hours, my stuff turns to complete spam. Woo, can I be stupid. Add alcohol, and frankly anything I post after 8pm local time should just be ignored.

thats important info.

what time zone are you in?

Prescriptivist grammar is always for the lose.

Um...it has nothing to do with grammar. It is purely word choice. It is the same as saying "I have to go to dog" is nonsensical. It is an issue of word choice, not grammar.

On an unrelated note, this is the most hilarious thing I have stumbled upon in the past few months.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=544570
That is the link to the "SB1959...Should we worry?" thread.

If you don't laugh, chuckle, or fall off your chair, you don't get it.(speaking to anyone who bothers to find out what I mean)

Nope, the Database Error is totally failing to give me the lol. :confused:

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thats important info.

What a nice thing to say! :)

what time zone are you in?

GMT +10, +1 for Daylight Saving. It's thursday afternoon already. 2:55 PM.

Nope, the Database Error is totally failing to give me the lol. :confused:


From what I remember of the thread in it's pre-censored state, the SB1959 was a bill passed that made even mentioning or discussing any sort of 'terrorist' ideologies a federal offense or something.

What a nice thing to say! :)



GMT +10, +1 for Daylight Saving. It's thursday afternoon already. 2:55 PM.

hmmmm its 9 pm here....i think that means you are at your most incoherent when im not online.

hows tomorrow looking? its always good to get someone else's perspective on the future

I think that the vast majority of you are idiots. Granted, I am a fan of classical philosophy. :rolleyes:

hmmmm its 9 pm here....i think that means you are at your most incoherent when im not online.

hows tomorrow looking? its always good to get someone else's perspective on the future

It's cool, it might even rain a bit. The kids just got out of school, I can hear them on the street.

I'm not sure how useful that info is going to be to you. :)

I think that the vast majority of you are idiots.

You would.

You would.

Yes, yes I would. :confused:

It's cool, it might even rain a bit. The kids just got out of school, I can hear them on the street.

I'm not sure how useful that info is going to be to you. :)

that could well be tomorrow afternoon here.

not much chance of rain (6 inches total on average per year) but it might rain a bit this weekend.

Frankly I say no. Most either oversimplify or over complex an issue.

"If we do this, and this our problems on this will (magically) disappear."

or the reason for this is: Enter 4000 word essay that includes antagonizing some group or other when really the issue may be far simpler that they make it to be.

Voted dumber than normal.:D

I think that the vast majority of you are idiots. Granted, I am a fan of classical philosophy. :rolleyes:Plausible theory. Just to ask though, who do you believe was the greatest of the great Greek geniuses?

Plausible theory. Just to ask though, who do you believe was the greatest of the great Greek geniuses?

Confucius.

Clearly a no-brainer. :rolleyes:

Plausible theory. Just to ask though, who do you believe was the greatest of the great Greek geniuses?

Plato hands down. Aristotle was ok, but he was (I agree with St. Bonaventure in this respect) uber phail in respect to his rejection of Exemplarism.

I think that the vast majority of you are idiots.

You don't know us the way you know yourself.

Arguably, you don't know us AT ALL. You have a model of NH or Soheran or Ashmoria, of how we think. You have built that model by trying to think our thoughts (by reading their literal expression.)

Ask yourself how you "know" the ancient Greek philosophers, and you will see the sense in the above.

If you are carrying around models of idiots in your mind, it might profit you to ask yourself why. Does it make you feel superior, or is it just some trash you are too lazy to throw out?

I think that the vast majority of you are idiots.

Let's examine that in more depth.
It remains a possibility that you consider every NSGer but yourself an idiot.

It is also possible that you consider yourself an idiot.

It is also possible that you consider your intellect superior to some, who you would not go so far as to call idiots.

So, by way of narrowing down your meaning, let me ask you this: is there even one poster on this board who you consider your intellectual superior?

I won't ask you to name names, but an honest answer would be appreciated.

Granted, I am a fan of classical philosophy. :rolleyes:

And did those ancients define their intelligence by contrast to the stupidity of others?

I would say rather the opposite. The contrast was between elated human nature, and inanimate matter. Democritus and such even respected the complexities of lifeless matter. Their view of ignorance and other human failing was amused tolerance, at worst a sense of tragedy.

So, in what classical work did you learn contempt for others?

Perhaps the skeptics are your thing. Or the sophists.

EDIT: Hi, Scandinvans! Haven't seen your posts in months. :)

is there even one poster on this board who you consider your intellectual superior?

Nope. :p




Democritus and the Atomists were meatheads.

[quote]So, in what classical work did you learn contempt for others?

Perhaps the skeptics are your thing. Or the sophists.

The Cynics?

Nope. :p

Yes yes, because you're just so very special aren't you?

Yes yes, because you're just so very special aren't you?

Yep. :p

Yep. :p

now here I thought pride was a sin.

now here I thought pride was a sin.

Obviously a sin that God could not have avoided.

Obviously a sin that God could not have avoided.

But just because god couldn't do something doesn't mean he's not omnipotent.

After all it's perfectly logical for being who can do anything to not be able to do something.

cheescake is not cake, its more like pie. pie is better, there is no debate, it is in fact, a fact.

Cheesecake is in fact a pie. It was allowed to be included with the cakes in exchange for Boston Cream Pie(which is in fact a cake).

No.

Cheesecake is in fact a pie. It was allowed to be included with the cakes in exchange for Boston Cream Pie(which is in fact a cake).

What a silly argument (not your post, just the debate in general). Instead of arguing over what exactly cheesecake is, one could be happily consuming some. Or plastering someone's face with it.

I could seriously go for some cheesecake right now. I don't know whether it is better than other pies, but it is tasty, and that is what matters.

I could seriously go for some cheesecake right now. I don't know whether it is better than other pies, but it is tasty, and that is what matters.
Hehe... I went to the fridge about half an hour ago, intending to cook myself some breakfast before heading off for the train. I then spotted a couple of slices of cheesecake, which I have just finished - along with a pint of coffee.

Sweet, sweet breakfast :p

Obviously a sin that God could not have avoided.

God is allowed sin, he's not catholic.

Hehe... I went to the fridge about half an hour ago, intending to cook myself some breakfast before heading off for the train. I then spotted a couple of slices of cheesecake, which I have just finished - along with a pint of coffee.

Sweet, sweet breakfast :p

I am so envious. Except for the coffee part.

God is allowed sin, he's not catholic.

If he was, finding a father confessor would be ... complicated.

If he was, finding a father confessor would be ... complicated.

Indeed. Who does God talk to when he needs to talk to God?

Indeed. Who does God talk to when he needs to talk to God?

Ergo: God is not a Catholic.

Ergo: God is not a Catholic.

Well that and he doesn't worship himself, doesn't believe in himself, doesn't follow his rules, doesn't try to be like his son, never recieved any of the sacraments.

I just realized, that God stuff was from some other thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=544654)

Gens Romae extraordinary claim to be the smartest person on NSG (or was it all of NS?) inspired me to go and read that thread.

He didn't exactly win that one. After picking the turf and claiming to be an expert, he came maybe fourth.

Strong performance, considering the opponents.