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So....Did you watch it tonight? Did you? I know you did!

Wilgrove
05-12-2007, 05:44
So, who watched Rudolph The Red Nose Reindeer tonight? It was on CBS at 8:00pm EST. I've been watching this movie ever since I was little, it's become a Holiday tradition of mine. I do have a few comment.

1. I may be reading too much into it but for most of the movie, Rudolph and Hermie is Out casted, and they seem to make a big deal out of it. Is there an underlying message? My dad thinks Rudolph and Hermie are supposed to represent gay people.

2. Is it me or does Santa comes off as a real bastard in this movie? Jeez, give boys and girls all around the world a toy, and treat your own reindeer like crap.

3. Cornelius is looking for Gold and Silver, and yet, when Rudolph goes to separate himself from them to protect them he says "Goodbye Cornelius, I hope you find the Tinsel." It's not Tinsel, it's supposed to be Gold and/or Silver!

This is the first time I ever realized these things, and I still enjoy watching it tonight.
Bann-ed
05-12-2007, 05:45
That elf always was an odd one...dentist... pah!
Zilam
05-12-2007, 05:48
In before fundies saying we should protect the show from liberals, atheists, and homosexuals...come on, I am sure its out on the internet somewhere.
New Genoa
05-12-2007, 06:06
When I was little I watched it. Now that my brain has developed, I hate it. *nod*
Wilgrove
05-12-2007, 06:06
When I was little I watched it. Now that my brain has developed, I hate it. *nod*

Why do you hate it?
Zilam
05-12-2007, 06:07
Why do you hate it?

Because he hates freedom, and 'Murica. Duh.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-12-2007, 07:38
I shall be the first (and hopefully last) person to suggest that Rudolph's nose is a phallic image, and that the movie is about a man coming to sexual maturity by accepting his erections (blinking/whistling red light). In the end, a man must learn to use his antlers, which are also phalluses (or, as Firefox would rather I spell it, phalli), to defeat the Snowman, which represents the Oedipus complex, by forcing it into a chasm, which represents the birth canal.

The important thing to take away after reading this analysis, of course, is that Robert May had three penises. Also, Fiddlebottoms need sleep.
Posi
05-12-2007, 07:47
I shall be the first (and hopefully last) person to suggest that Rudolph's nose is a phallic image, and that the movie is about a man coming to sexual maturity by accepting his erections (blinking/whistling red light). In the end, a man must learn to use his antlers, which are also phalluses (or, as Firefox would rather I spell it, phalli), to defeat the Snowman, which represents the Oedipus complex, by forcing it into a chasm, which represents the birth canal.

The important thing to take away after reading this analysis, of course, is that Robert May had three penises. Also, Fiddlebottoms need sleep.
Sleep is for the weak.
Geniasis
05-12-2007, 08:41
I shall be the first (and hopefully last) person to suggest that Rudolph's nose is a phallic image, and that the movie is about a man coming to sexual maturity by accepting his erections (blinking/whistling red light). In the end, a man must learn to use his antlers, which are also phalluses (or, as Firefox would rather I spell it, phalli), to defeat the Snowman, which represents the Oedipus complex, by forcing it into a chasm, which represents the birth canal.

The important thing to take away after reading this analysis, of course, is that Robert May had three penises. Also, Fiddlebottoms need sleep.

His companions of course represent the traditional orientations.

The bearded dude (forgot his name) is the manly man, representing his heterosexuality.

The elf is a stereotype of feminine homosexual male, representing his homosexuality.

Meanwhile the island of lost toys and it's inhabitants represent his repressed sexual urges.
Ifreann
05-12-2007, 13:59
I shall be the first (and hopefully last) person to suggest that Rudolph's nose is a phallic image, and that the movie is about a man coming to sexual maturity by accepting his erections (blinking/whistling red light). In the end, a man must learn to use his antlers, which are also phalluses (or, as Firefox would rather I spell it, phalli), to defeat the Snowman, which represents the Oedipus complex, by forcing it into a chasm, which represents the birth canal.

The important thing to take away after reading this analysis, of course, is that Robert May had three penises. Also, Fiddlebottoms need sleep.

Rudolph is female. As are all the other reindeer, for that matter. Male reindeer lose their antlers during winter.
R0cka
05-12-2007, 14:40
In before fundies saying we should protect the show from liberals, atheists, and homosexuals...come on, I am sure its out on the internet somewhere.

The fundies haven't said crap. Only the perverts who fantasize about having gay sex with reindeers and elves have.
Smunkeeville
05-12-2007, 14:41
I watched it, every time his little girlfriend came on screen the kids and hubby and I did our best Hannibal Lecter voice and said "hello Clarice"

yeah, we are that weird.
-Bretonia-
05-12-2007, 14:43
I'm in denial about it being nearly Christmas. So as far as I'm concerned, we're months away from having that Christmas tripe on our TVs!
Ifreann
05-12-2007, 14:45
The fundies haven't said crap. Only the perverts who fantasize about having gay sex with reindeers and elves have.

Since all the reindeers are female and everyone who commented on them is male, then how do you suggest we would go about having gay sex with them?
-Bretonia-
05-12-2007, 14:49
Since all the reindeers are female and everyone who commented on them is male, then how do you suggest we would go about having gay sex with them?

Wear a dress?
Ifreann
05-12-2007, 14:50
Wear a dress?

Interesting. If I wear a dress I become a lesbian......
-Bretonia-
05-12-2007, 14:52
Interesting. If I wear a dress I become a lesbian......

Or a man in a dress. *Shrug*
Ifreann
05-12-2007, 14:55
Or a man in a dress. *Shrug*

This will require a lot of scientific experimentation.
R0cka
05-12-2007, 14:56
Since all the reindeers are female and everyone who commented on them is male, then how do you suggest we would go about having gay sex with them?

Rudolph is a boy.
Smunkeeville
05-12-2007, 14:57
Rudolph is a boy.

he sex may be male, but that doesn't speak to his gender.
Ifreann
05-12-2007, 14:58
Rudolph is a boy.

Male reindeers lose their antlers during the winter.
Rudolph is always shown as having antlers, even in winter(not that he's shown much any other time of the year)
Thus Rudolph is female.
Kryozerkia
05-12-2007, 14:59
The fundies haven't said crap. Only the perverts who fantasize about having gay sex with reindeers and elves have.

Hmmmm... gay reindeer sex, now that's a seller! :)
R0cka
05-12-2007, 15:02
Male reindeers lose their antlers during the winter.
Rudolph is always shown as having antlers, even in winter(not that he's shown much any other time of the year)
Thus Rudolph is female.

Santa and the North Pole are magic, therefore the laws of biology do not apply.

Also the song clearly says he's a boy.

"Olive, the other reindeer, used to laugh and call "him" names,"
Ifreann
05-12-2007, 15:04
Santa and the North Pole are magic, therefore the laws of biology do not apply.
Clearly they do, since she's referred to as a reindeer, something which is defined according to biological laws.

Also the song clearly says he's a boy.

"Olive, the other reindeer, used to laugh and call "him" names,"

Probably just a typo. And wasn't it "All of the other reindeers", since there wasn't one called Olive. And 'the other' implies that Olive is the only other reindeer.
Kryozerkia
05-12-2007, 15:05
Santa and the North Pole are magic, therefore the laws of biology do not apply.

Also the song clearly says he's a boy.

"Olive, the other reindeer, used to laugh and call "him" names,"

All of the other reindeer
used to laugh and call him names.
They never let poor Rudolph
join in any reindeer games.

There is no "Olive", it's "All of".

http://www.carols.org.uk/rudolf_the_red_nosed_reindeer.htm

(And the link to back it up)
Smunkeeville
05-12-2007, 15:05
Santa and the North Pole are magic, therefore the laws of biology do not apply.

Also the song clearly says he's a boy.

"Olive, the other reindeer, used to laugh and call "him" names,"

it's possible that Rudolf's gender was unknown, and the pronoun "him" was used because in proper grammar that's the one you use when you don't know.
-Bretonia-
05-12-2007, 15:06
Santa and the North Pole are magic, therefore the laws of biology do not apply.

Also the song clearly says he's a boy.

"Olive, the other reindeer, used to laugh and call "him" names,"

One of the names they called her was probably 'butch'.
R0cka
05-12-2007, 15:09
All of the other reindeer
used to laugh and call him names.
They never let poor Rudolph
join in any reindeer games.

There is no "Olive", it's "All of".

http://www.carols.org.uk/rudolf_the_red_nosed_reindeer.htm

(And the link to back it up)

This was disproved in 1999.

There's an Olive.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227173/
Ifreann
05-12-2007, 15:12
This was disproved in 1999.

There's an Olive.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227173/

Again, 'Olive, the other reindeer' implies that Rudolph and Olive were the only two. And clearly there were more than two.
Kryozerkia
05-12-2007, 15:12
This was disproved in 1999.

There's an Olive.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227173/

Actually, if you read on further in the lyrics I provided, you'll see that it goes on to say...:

They never let poor Rudolph
join in any reindeer games.

So, it becomes apparent that it's not a singular entity but rather multiple.
Smunkeeville
05-12-2007, 15:14
Actually, if you read on further in the lyrics I provided, you'll see that it goes on to say...:

They never let poor Rudolph
join in any reindeer games.

So, it becomes apparent that it's not a singular entity but rather multiple.

unless Olive has MPD then it's really insensitive for you to ignore it.
Kryozerkia
05-12-2007, 15:16
unless Olive has MPD then it's really insensitive for you to ignore it.

Then how do you account for: Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner and Blitzen? Especially when it's apparent that there are many of them unless Santa is seeing shit.

http://www.carols.org.uk/twas_the_night_before_christmas.htm
Smunkeeville
05-12-2007, 15:20
Then how do you account for: Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner and Blitzen? Especially when it's apparent that there are many of them unless Santa is seeing shit.

http://www.carols.org.uk/twas_the_night_before_christmas.htm

different legend my friend. Besides, just because they exist doesn't mean they were the ones bothering poor Transgender Rudolf.

Besides, with all the magic dust floating around I wouldn't put it past Santa to be seeing things....

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/4682/lyrics/santa.htm
Ifreann
05-12-2007, 15:23
different legend my friend. Besides, just because they exist doesn't mean they were the ones bothering poor Transgender Rudolf.

Besides, with all the magic dust floating around I wouldn't put it past Santa to be seeing things....

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/4682/lyrics/santa.htm

"Like, she made da best brownies in town, man!"

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
Imperial isa
05-12-2007, 15:24
oh came on it's only like december 4th there and tell me they showed that
Wilgrove
05-12-2007, 19:40
different legend my friend. Besides, just because they exist doesn't mean they were the ones bothering poor Transgender Rudolf.

Besides, with all the magic dust floating around I wouldn't put it past Santa to be seeing things....

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/4682/lyrics/santa.htm

ROFLMAO! /Thread! You win a piece of Cheesecake Smunkee.
German Nightmare
05-12-2007, 23:54
So, who watched Rudolph The Red Nose Reindeer tonight?
I don't think I ever watched that (besides the fact that I don't receive CBS over here).

I watched the Big Red One (The Reconstruction) instead tonight.
Intestinal fluids
06-12-2007, 00:23
In Soviet Russia, the reindeer ride you.