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Crap like this is why I've learned to loathe country music

Khadgar
04-12-2007, 22:09
Bucky Covington A Different World Lyrics


We were born to mothers who smoked and drank
Our cribs were covered in lead-based paint
No childproof lids
No seat belts in cars
Rode bikes with no helmets
and still here we are
Still here we are

We got daddy's belt when we misbehaved
Had three TV channels you got up to change
No video games and no satellite
All we had were friends and they were outside
Playing outside

It was a different life
When we were boys and girls
Not just a different time
It was a different world

School always started the same everyday
the pledge of allegiance, then someone would pray
not every kid made the team when they tried
We got disappointed but that was alright
We turned out alright

It was a different life
When we were boys and girls
Not just a different time
It was a different world

No bottled water
We'd drink from a garden hose
And every Sunday,
All the stores were closed.

It was a different life
When we were boys and girls
Not just a different time
It was a different world

It was a different life
When we were boys and girls
Not just a different time
It was a different world
It was a different world Lamenting the loss of alcoholic mothers, lead based paint, school prayer, child abuse, and lack safety standards. Bravo. :rolleyes:

Gods what an idiotic song.
Pirated Corsairs
04-12-2007, 22:11
Also, it just sounds like shit.
Khadgar
04-12-2007, 22:18
Also, it just sounds like shit.

Well this song in particular yeah. Oddly I prefer older country. Johnny Cash, Dolly Parton and the like.
Kyronea
04-12-2007, 22:20
I think the idea is that they're mocking childhood safety regulations because of loss of money for businesses or something...

Yeah, it's stupid, but as they said...they grew up on that stuff. :D
Smunkeeville
04-12-2007, 22:21
Lamenting the loss of alcoholic mothers, lead based paint, school prayer, child abuse, and lack safety standards. Bravo. :rolleyes:

Gods what an idiotic song.

:eek: he stole that from a forwarded email!

TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the
1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they
carried us.
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, our baby cribs were covered with bright colored
lead-based paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we
rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took
hitchhiking.

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE
actually died from this.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but
we weren't overweight because
WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back
when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down
the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the
bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no
99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, no cell
phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat
rooms....WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no
lawsuits from these accidents.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.
We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays,
made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang
the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't
had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They
actually sided with the law!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers
and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.
We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned
HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

And YOU are one of them CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as
kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good.

seriously, I get it like once a week from idiots.
[NS]Click Stand
04-12-2007, 22:22
What kinda name is Buck Covington?
Khadgar
04-12-2007, 22:25
:eek: he stole that from a forwarded email!

TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the
1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they
carried us.
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, our baby cribs were covered with bright colored
lead-based paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we
rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took
hitchhiking.

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE
actually died from this.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but
we weren't overweight because
WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back
when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down
the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the
bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no
99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, no cell
phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat
rooms....WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no
lawsuits from these accidents.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.
We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays,
made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang
the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't
had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They
actually sided with the law!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers
and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.
We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned
HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

And YOU are one of them CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as
kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good.

seriously, I get it like once a week from idiots.

I guess if their mothers drank and they ate lead paint chips that explains why they're stupid enough to lament the loss of such things.
Zilam
04-12-2007, 22:27
Lamenting the loss of alcoholic mothers, lead based paint, school prayer, child abuse, and lack safety standards. Bravo. :rolleyes:

Gods what an idiotic song.

I dismiss country music, almost totally. Maybe back in the early 90s, it was a bit decent with Garth Brooks, Brooks and Dunn, and so forth, but now its just mental masturbation for TRUE 'Muricans
Kyronea
04-12-2007, 22:28
:eek: he stole that from a forwarded email!
*snip the e-mail*

seriously, I get it like once a week from idiots.

God that's stupid. "Hey, we survived!" Yeah, good for you. That's all fine and dandy.

What about the kids who didn't? What about the millions of kids inflicted with diseases like fetal alcohol syndrome, Down syndrome, and the like? What about those driven insane by mercury? What about those who were born mentally retarded? And so on and so forth.

Yeah. You "survived." Good for you. That doesn't mean that we should just keep on trucking with it. These things are proven harmful in many ways and it is safer to regulate them. That's not controlling your lives. How is it controlling your lives anyway? If you really want to inflict that kind of damage to yourself you're welcome to do so legally. All this does is keep children from suffering it when they wouldn't have a choice.
Ashmoria
04-12-2007, 22:34
its not fair to judge a whole genre by its crappiest songs.

think of the worst song of your favorite genre. would it be fair of me to say that <that song> is why ive learned to loathe <that genre>?

of course not.

its a matter of the ratio of songs you really like to songs you really hate.

so when "a different world" comes on my radio, i change stations as quickly as possible. the likelihood is that the next station will have a song that is OK followed by a song i really like.

the WORST time is when you change stations and they are already playing "a different world" and change it again to the 3rd station just queueing it up!

those are the times i end up listening to rush limbaugh for a few minutes.
Smunkeeville
04-12-2007, 22:34
I guess if their mothers drank and they ate lead paint chips that explains why they're stupid enough to lament the loss of such things.

must be. They are idiots, I assure you.
One World Alliance
04-12-2007, 22:35
I guess if their mothers drank and they ate lead paint chips that explains why they're stupid enough to lament the loss of such things.

LMAO!!!!


God I know that's right!
New Czardas
04-12-2007, 22:35
Oh come now. Throughout history people have romanticized past eras that weren't nearly as nice as they claimed. Examples include Democratic Athens, the Roman Empire, the Age of Chivalry, the Renaissance, and whatever happened fifty years before the account was written. The past is most people's ideal, and from it they draw their beliefs about the future, at least their utopian beliefs. Dystopian beliefs on the other hand are drawn from the present, as there's nothing anyone hates more than their current circumstances.
Neo Art
04-12-2007, 22:38
Yeah, THEY survived just fine. Know who didn't? Kids whose mothers took this stuff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide). Such a fucking rediculous concept. We turned out just fine, except for, you know, the ones that didn't.
Bann-ed
04-12-2007, 22:39
I like some country songs, I like some metal songs. My appreciation of a song is completely independent of it's genre.
Johnny B Goode
04-12-2007, 22:40
I had a math teacher for a summer course who was obsessed with Hank Williams.
Ashmoria
04-12-2007, 22:45
I had a math teacher for a summer course who was obsessed with Hank Williams.

hank or hank jr?
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 22:45
You had to learn to loathe country music? That crap makes me want to kick in speakers and it's not just the idiotic babble they call lyrics, but the generic repetition of tired chords and twangs they try to pass off as music.

'Country music' is merely the product of emo wannabe-cowboys trying to blame the world for their failed relationships, pregnant pre-teen daughters, depression and substance abuse problems.
Johnny B Goode
04-12-2007, 22:46
hank or hank jr?

The original. Oy vey. He brought in a Hank Williams CD (music to my rear) and played it in class. And he also printed out a biography of Hank Williams from the Internet and had us take turns reading it.

'Country music' is merely the product of emo wannabe-cowboys trying to blame the world for their failed relationships, pregnant pre-teen daughters, depression and substance abuse problems.

Best quote ever.
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 22:49
oh and then there are the liberals who made the world do that to them
Smunkeeville
04-12-2007, 22:56
there are some good country songs

WELL, I WAS DRUNK THE DAY MY MOM GOT OUT OF PRISON
AND I WENT TO PICK HER UP IN THE RAIN
BUT BEFORE I COULD GET TO THE STATION IN MY PICKUP TRUCK
SHE GOT RUNNED OVER BY A DAMNED OLD TRAIN- David Allen Coe.

yeah, I love it.
Ordo Drakul
04-12-2007, 22:57
Country music isn't about facts, figures, clocks, and gauges-It's about reminiscence. It's popularity is due entirely to those memories, if not of better times, then at least times when we were still young and didn't know any better. A good country and western song had aspects of prison, Momma, and trains-much closer to the supposed roots of "(c)Rap" to American sensibilities-it's music from the wrong side of the tracks, and there's heart and soul wishing for more in it, as well as memories of youth. "Rap" is braggadocio and unwarranted claims of Manhood-yet no one mocks these lyrics. I suggest you have a few beers and sit back-once you lose your inhibitions, it's poignant and touching, even with horrid lyrics.
Khadgar
04-12-2007, 22:59
there are some good country songs

WELL, I WAS DRUNK THE DAY MY MOM GOT OUT OF PRISON
AND I WENT TO PICK HER UP IN THE RAIN
BUT BEFORE I COULD GET TO THE STATION IN MY PICKUP TRUCK
SHE GOT RUNNED OVER BY A DAMNED OLD TRAIN- David Allen Coe.

yeah, I love it.

That song is funny, so it's good enough.
Forsakia
04-12-2007, 23:00
Country music isn't about facts, figures, clocks, and gauges-It's about reminiscence. It's popularity is due entirely to those memories, if not of better times, then at least times when we were still young and didn't know any better. A good country and western song had aspects of prison, Momma, and trains-much closer to the supposed roots of "(c)Rap" to American sensibilities-it's music from the wrong side of the tracks, and there's heart and soul wishing for more in it, as well as memories of youth. "Rap" is braggadocio and unwarranted claims of Manhood-yet no one mocks these lyrics. I suggest you have a few beers and sit back-once you lose your inhibitions, it's poignant and touching, even with horrid lyrics.

What rock have you been under to believe that?
BackwoodsSquatches
04-12-2007, 23:01
Top 40 country music is the fekking devil.

Guys like Cash, Haggard, Nelson.
Thats the good stuff.

Old school country is something I had to learn to appreciate.

These days, with modern country songs like "Loving you is like frying bacon naked", or "HonkeyTonk Badonkadonk"......thats not even music.
Its just utter shit.
Bann-ed
04-12-2007, 23:01
What rock have you been under to believe that?

Classic Rock. *nods*
Neesika
04-12-2007, 23:02
Classic Rock. *nods*

Nicely done.
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 23:03
there are some good country songs

WELL, I WAS DRUNK THE DAY MY MOM GOT OUT OF PRISON
AND I WENT TO PICK HER UP IN THE RAIN
BUT BEFORE I COULD GET TO THE STATION IN MY PICKUP TRUCK
SHE GOT RUNNED OVER BY A DAMNED OLD TRAIN- David Allen Coe.

yeah, I love it.



They are few and far between. When I like a country song I refuse to allow it to be called country music. :P
Linstan
04-12-2007, 23:03
Maybe the message being conveyed here is that "we survived" means something along the lines of "what does not kills us will make us stronger". The strong survived. There will always be accidents, problems of that sort, and common sense does have to be present. Why does the hard working people of the last generation have to suffer from all the cry babies of today? They don't! They speak out all the time, and show through logic and practice what is best for the humans of this world! I feel sorry for anyone born after 1964, the last year of the so-called baby boomers.

If you are never given a chance to fail, then how can you ever know success? One depends on the other. Failure is an option! It is critical that we learn how to succeed even if that means failure. It is by failure that we learn to better ourselves. Letting everyone on the baseball team means that those who fail don't need to practice to make the team. They will get a place no matter what and be guaranteed some playing time. Why try, why practice, why try to improve? This is a terrible lesson to teach kids! The strong are strong because they learn, and get better! That is why we go to school. We go to get better. Not to stagnate or get worse!

It is my opinion the song is teaching us that many of the old school values have real merit, and maybe we should consider bringing them back more often, and in fact many of them. Not the stupid ones, like lead paint, of course not. Again, this is common sense.

Another point in this song is what is supposedly so bad may not really be as bad as we think, and maybe knee jerk reactions should be avoided. Taking risks is also a point. If you never take any risks, you will never get ahead in life either. You have to take a few risks in life to excel, it is just the way things are!

I hope we learn from words like this an improve are lives! I am so tired of the bleeding hearts stories, and care for my poor ------. We are not here to pick you off the ground, we are here to pick ourselves off the ground. Pick yourself up, get off your lazy butt and go to work, and make money, and be happy!
Linstan
04-12-2007, 23:08
I hate country music, but from my previous post you might think I like it. Words alone don't make a song. The music is just too simplistic for me. I need more than 2 steps and 2 beats, and 2 dogs in my songs....
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 23:09
Maybe the message being conveyed here is that "we survived" means something along the lines of "what does not kills us will make us stronger". The strong survived. There will always be accidents, problems of that sort, and common sense does have to be present. Why does the hard working people of the last generation have to suffer from all the cry babies of today? They don't! They speak out all the time, and show through logic and practice what is best for the humans of this world! I feel sorry for anyone born after 1964, the last year of the so-called baby boomers.

If you are never given a chance to fail, then how can you ever know success? One depends on the other. Failure is an option! It is critical that we learn how to succeed even if that means failure. It is by failure that we learn to better ourselves. Letting everyone on the baseball team means that those who fail don't need to practice to make the team. They will get a place no matter what and be guaranteed some playing time. Why try, why practice, why try to improve? This is a terrible lesson to teach kids! The strong are strong because they learn, and get better! That is why we go to school. We go to get better. Not to stagnate or get worse!

It is my opinion the song is teaching us that many of the old school values have real merit, and maybe we should consider bringing them back more often, and in fact many of them. Not the stupid ones, like lead paint, of course not. Again, this is common sense.

Another point in this song is what is supposedly so bad may not really be as bad as we think, and maybe knee jerk reactions should be avoided. Taking risks is also a point. If you never take any risks, you will never get ahead in life either. You have to take a few risks in life to excel, it is just the way things are!

I hope we learn from words like this an improve are lives! I am so tired of the bleeding hearts stories, and care for my poor ------. We are not here to pick you off the ground, we are here to pick ourselves off the ground. Pick yourself up, get off your lazy butt and go to work, and make money, and be happy!


If you wanna go eat some lead paint chips, be my guest. Let us know how that turns out for you.
Linstan
04-12-2007, 23:14
I actually said comon sense things like lead paint are obvious. Did you actually read what I wrote? I would guess not.
Neesika
04-12-2007, 23:14
If you wanna go eat some lead paint chips, be my guest. Let us know how that turns out for you.

Apparently I did. And pooped green for two days. I coulda been a jeanyush!
JuNii
04-12-2007, 23:15
'Country music' is merely the product of emo wannabe-cowboys trying to blame the world for their failed relationships, pregnant pre-teen daughters, depression and substance abuse problems.
well, you know what happens when you play Country Music backwards right?
the singer get's his house back, his wife back, the dog isn't dead, the truck works... :p
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 23:17
I actually said comon sense things like lead paint are obvious. Did you actually read what I wrote? I would guess not.

No sorry I started to read and then all the whining made my head hurt so I stopped before that point.
Khadgar
04-12-2007, 23:18
Maybe the message being conveyed here is that "we survived" means something along the lines of "what does not kills us will make us stronger". The strong survived. By strong you mean lucky? Lucky that they didn't get Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, lucky they didn't eat paint chips? Lucky they didn't get hurled out of a car in an accident?
There will always be accidents, problems of that sort, and common sense does have to be present.Common sense is why such reforms were made. Why does the hard working people of the last generation have to suffer from all the cry babies of today? They don't! What the fuck? They speak out all the time, and show through logic and practice what is best for the humans of this world! I feel sorry for anyone born after 1964, the last year of the so-called baby boomers. You're really quite scary.

If you are never given a chance to fail, then how can you ever know success? One depends on the other. Failure is an option! It is critical that we learn how to succeed even if that means failure. It is by failure that we learn to better ourselves. Letting everyone on the baseball team means that those who fail don't need to practice to make the team. They will get a place no matter what and be guaranteed some playing time. Why try, why practice, why try to improve? This is a terrible lesson to teach kids! The strong are strong because they learn, and get better! That is why we go to school. We go to get better. Not to stagnate or get worse! I'm not sure what you're bitching about here, 'cause that doesn't happen. Well, not in the real world anyway, in old fogey imagination it happens constantly though.

It is my opinion the song is teaching us that many of the old school values have real merit, and maybe we should consider bringing them back more often, and in fact many of them. Not the stupid ones, like lead paint, of course not. Again, this is common sense. Maybe you didn't read the lyrics, or have never heard the song, but they're all stupid.

Another point in this song is what is supposedly so bad may not really be as bad as we think, and maybe knee jerk reactions should be avoided. Taking risks is also a point. If you never take any risks, you will never get ahead in life either. You have to take a few risks in life to excel, it is just the way things are! There's nothing like deliberately threatening the lives of your children through myopic use of hazardous materials and practices to teach the little buggers how to excel eh?

I hope we learn from words like this an improve are lives! I am so tired of the bleeding hearts stories, and care for my poor ------. We are not here to pick you off the ground, we are here to pick ourselves off the ground. Pick yourself up, get off your lazy butt and go to work, and make money, and be happy!

Did you read any of the previous posts or are you just ranting? You're really not making any sense in context.
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 23:19
Apparently I did. And pooped green for two days. I coulda been a jeanyush!


I don't want to hear about your green poop :mad:
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 23:20
well, you know what happens when you play Country Music backwards right?
the singer get's his house back, his wife back, the dog isn't dead, the truck works... :p


And Reagan comes back to life!
Linstan
04-12-2007, 23:21
Ok, now you have read it. Good! It is not whining as you can see, it is straight word teaching, and that is something we just don't see enough these days. It's the way I see the world. You will probably see it different, and maybe if you think a little, you will begin to understand my points. I read other posts too, and I learn to "broaden my horizon". This is all I am actually proposing here. I am saying, STOP WHINING! Get off your butts and get to work, you will feel better for it, and you will be happier! :)
Linstan
04-12-2007, 23:25
The come backs so far have only proven my points so far! Thank you for the wonderful attacks! They have proven what I am saying! You don't have anything intelligent to attack with so you just throw insults, that is a real compliment. Again, thank you!!! :)
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 23:26
Ok, now you have read it. Good! It is not whining as you can see, it is straight word teaching, and that is something we just don't see enough these days. It's the way I see the world. You will probably see it different, and maybe if you think a little, you will begin to understand my points. I read other posts too, and I learn to "broaden my horizon". This is all I am actually proposing here. I am saying, STOP WHINING! Get off your butts and get to work, you will feel better for it, and you will be happier! :)


No I still didn't read it. It makes little sense and still sounds like whining to me about all those bleeding hearts (a compliment in my eyes). Also I have a career, house and a wife.... you sound like you are losing it though.
New Czardas
04-12-2007, 23:38
You had to learn to loathe country music? That crap makes me want to kick in speakers and it's not just the idiotic babble they call lyrics, but the generic repetition of tired chords and twangs they try to pass off as music.
That's really a problem in all music, though. Practically everything that's done these days is a rehash of the 60s, or the 70s, or the 80s. I haven't heard anything genuinely original in years.

Country music isn't about facts, figures, clocks, and gauges-It's about reminiscence. It's popularity is due entirely to those memories, if not of better times, then at least times when we were still young and didn't know any better. A good country and western song had aspects of prison, Momma, and trains-much closer to the supposed roots of "(c)Rap" to American sensibilities-it's music from the wrong side of the tracks, and there's heart and soul wishing for more in it, as well as memories of youth. "Rap" is braggadocio and unwarranted claims of Manhood-yet no one mocks these lyrics. I suggest you have a few beers and sit back-once you lose your inhibitions, it's poignant and touching, even with horrid lyrics.
Lyrics of other genres are mocked just as much as lyrics in country music. In fact, I don't think lyrics have any place in music in the first place, but I'm a nut, so you can ignore me.

The come backs so far have only proven my points so far! Thank you for the wonderful attacks! They have proven what I am saying! You don't have anything intelligent to attack with so you just throw insults, that is a real compliment. Again, thank you!!! :)
Welcome to NS and mind the trapdoor. Them crocs are hungry, ain't had no chow in a few weeks.
Linstan
04-12-2007, 23:38
See, this is very much a case and point in Conservatism VS Liberalism. Liberals will never make sense, and conservatives will always be right on line making TOTAL sense. Progressive thinking another name for Liberalism. What are we progressing towards? Chaos? Closed minded thinking? I really have to hand to the liberals of this world, you are truly a bread of your own. There is no logic that will work with a liberal, after all it's a disease. hehe

See you later, have fun going on and on. My, House, Wife, pets, and now my life are off to work now! BYE BYE!!!

Wow, I am Happy, and I don't need to be changed, doesn't that just mess with your mind! hehe
Khadgar
04-12-2007, 23:40
See, this is very much a case and point in Conservatism VS Liberalism. Liberals will never make sense, and conservatives will always be right on line making TOTAL sense. Progressive thinking another name for Liberalism. What are we progressing towards? Chaos? Closed minded thinking? I really have to hand to the liberals of this world, you are truly a bread of your own. There is no logic that will work with a liberal, after all it's a disease. hehe

See you later, have fun going on and on. My, House, Wife, pets, and now my life are off to work now! BYE BYE!!!

Wow, I am Happy, and I don't need to be changed, doesn't that just mess with your mind! hehe

You haven't made a point yet, and this post is what they tend to call Flamebaiting (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023).
Myrmidonisia
04-12-2007, 23:42
Lamenting the loss of alcoholic mothers, lead based paint, school prayer, child abuse, and lack safety standards. Bravo. :rolleyes:

Gods what an idiotic song.
Yep, country music just ain't what it used to be... Jail, rain, trains, pickup trucks, mom...
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 23:44
mmmm liberal bread! *insert drooley smilie here*
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2007, 23:52
That's really a problem in all music, though. Practically everything that's done these days is a rehash of the 60s, or the 70s, or the 80s. I haven't heard anything genuinely original in years.

Well I would say most music nowadays is a boring unoriginal rehash of what was once considered a breakthrough. Still there are a small minority of people who have come up with completely new sounds or put very good twists on old sounds and make them sound new. Mindless Self Indulgence for example. We won't find it in mainstream music much at all of course... it's too risky of an investment for the big labels to go with something out of the ordinary :rolleyes:

Most punk music almost pisses me off as much as country when it comes to unoriginality and simplicity. Punk shouldn't be a sound, it should be a way of life forming new sounds... in fact what most people call punk I wouldn't.

Also, fuck death metal too.

Gothic Bluegrass Rap is where it's at nowadays - yes I made that up
The_pantless_hero
04-12-2007, 23:53
See, this is very much a case and point in Conservatism VS Liberalism. Liberals will never make sense, and conservatives will always be right on line making TOTAL sense. Progressive thinking another name for Liberalism. What are we progressing towards? Chaos? Closed minded thinking? I really have to hand to the liberals of this world, you are truly a bread of your own. There is no logic that will work with a liberal, after all it's a disease. hehe

See you later, have fun going on and on. My, House, Wife, pets, and now my life are off to work now! BYE BYE!!!

Wow, I am Happy, and I don't need to be changed, doesn't that just mess with your mind! hehe
That's retarded.
New Czardas
05-12-2007, 00:08
Well I would say most music nowadays is a boring unoriginal rehash of what was once considered a breakthrough. Still there are a small minority of people who have come up with completely new sounds or put very good twists on old sounds and make them sound new. Mindless Self Indulgence for example. We won't find it in mainstream music much at all of course... it's too risky of an investment for the big labels to go with something out of the ordinary :rolleyes:

Most punk music almost pisses me off as much as country when it comes to unoriginality and simplicity. Punk shouldn't be a sound, it should be a way of life forming new sounds... in fact what most people call punk I wouldn't.

Also, fuck death metal too.

Gothic Bluegrass Rap is where it's at nowadays - yes I made that up

Agree with whole post except last sentence. I definitely prefer the funkier side of twelve-tone techno-ragtime blues pop, as exemplified by such bands as Moldovan Cockroach and Fzxqjzhtmnkp.
HotRodia
05-12-2007, 00:13
Well this song in particular yeah. Oddly I prefer older country. Johnny Cash, Dolly Parton and the like.

I'm very much in agreement with you there. I can't stand most modern country, but I like a fair amount of classic country.
Cosmopoles
05-12-2007, 00:20
Wichita Lineman is probably the only song from the 'classic' period of country that I really like. Alternative country is good too - like Lambchop, My Morning Jacket and Kings Of Leon.

The song in the post is symptomatic of the rose tinted view that every generation has for their youth. My dad often complains about how so many kids are delinquent these days and have no respect. My uncle tells me that my dad used to go around breaking shop windows with bricks when he was my age. So I'll take anything about the 'good old days' with a pinch of salt.
Ashmoria
05-12-2007, 00:31
The original. Oy vey. He brought in a Hank Williams CD (music to my rear) and played it in class. And he also printed out a biography of Hank Williams from the Internet and had us take turns reading it.


seems a tad abusive for a math teacher to do.

did he include what a womanizer and wastrel hank was?
Three-Way
05-12-2007, 00:34
My appreciation of a song is completely independent of it's genre.

Ditto here. QFT. :D
Zayun2
05-12-2007, 00:35
See, this is very much a case and point in Conservatism VS Liberalism. Liberals will never make sense, and conservatives will always be right on line making TOTAL sense. Progressive thinking another name for Liberalism. What are we progressing towards? Chaos? Closed minded thinking? I really have to hand to the liberals of this world, you are truly a bread of your own. There is no logic that will work with a liberal, after all it's a disease. hehe

See you later, have fun going on and on. My, House, Wife, pets, and now my life are off to work now! BYE BYE!!!

Wow, I am Happy, and I don't need to be changed, doesn't that just mess with your mind! hehe

Happy with what you have? That's not very capitalistic, you need to want more. And if you're not a capitalist, you must not be conservative!!! You logic-hating lib-commie, get out of here!
Ashmoria
05-12-2007, 00:36
You had to learn to loathe country music? That crap makes me want to kick in speakers and it's not just the idiotic babble they call lyrics, but the generic repetition of tired chords and twangs they try to pass off as music.

'Country music' is merely the product of emo wannabe-cowboys trying to blame the world for their failed relationships, pregnant pre-teen daughters, depression and substance abuse problems.

so youre an... opera fan?

what modern popular music of any type is not just an idiotic babble they call lyrics, but the generic repetition of tired chords and twangs they try to pass off as music? leaving out the "twang".
Wilgrove
05-12-2007, 00:41
I agree with the rest, Classic Country rocks, I really like Charlie Daniels. His song "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" was the reason I started to play the fiddle (or violin). Today I listen to Classic Rock, or anything that isn't Country, Rap, or Hip Hop.
Ashmoria
05-12-2007, 00:47
there are some good country songs

WELL, I WAS DRUNK THE DAY MY MOM GOT OUT OF PRISON
AND I WENT TO PICK HER UP IN THE RAIN
BUT BEFORE I COULD GET TO THE STATION IN MY PICKUP TRUCK
SHE GOT RUNNED OVER BY A DAMNED OLD TRAIN- David Allen Coe.

yeah, I love it.

did david allen coe write that verse?

its a steve goodman song. "you never even call me by my name"

it IS the best damned country song ever written.

he also wrote "city of new orleans" the best train song ever.
Three-Way
05-12-2007, 00:48
Lamenting the loss of alcoholic mothers, lead based paint, school prayer, child abuse, and lack safety standards. Bravo. :rolleyes:

Gods what an idiotic song.

Corporal punishment, per se, is NOT "child abuse", it is needful discipline!

Child abuse is (among other things):
Setting them no rules or boundaries between what is acceptable and what is not acceptable
Failure to provide any incentive to obey those rules or stay within those boundaries
Failure to discipline them when they break those rules or go outside those boundaries
Letting them have absolutely anything they want at all times, regardless of the consequences of them getting it (sniffing lead paint fumes comes to mind)

THOSE things, and NOT corporal punishment, are child abuse.
New Czardas
05-12-2007, 00:55
THOSE things, and NOT corporal punishment, are child abuse.

I dunno, I'd certainly call it abuse if somebody decided to hit me repeatedly with a belt for breaking an arbitrary rule. Then again, I was born after 1985, so my opinion doesn't count, right?
Wilgrove
05-12-2007, 00:58
I dunno, I'd certainly call it abuse if somebody decided to hit me repeatedly with a belt for breaking an arbitrary rule. Then again, I was born after 1985, so my opinion doesn't count, right?

Oh please, I was born in 1984 and I got spanked plenty of times. Setting boundaries, and rules so that the child can grow up into a productive member of society (instead of a thug or a welfare leech) isn't child abuse.
KneelBeforeZod
05-12-2007, 01:04
You haven't made a point yet, and this post is what they tend to call Flamebaiting (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023).

No, that post wasn't this "flamebaiting" you speak of; "flamebaiting" is failure to kneel before Zod, that is, by not kneeling, you are tempting me to "flame" you with my eye lasers!

If you do not wish to be "flamed", then KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!
Three-Way
05-12-2007, 01:08
I dunno, I'd certainly call it abuse if somebody decided to hit me repeatedly with a belt for breaking an arbitrary rule. Then again, I was born after 1985, so my opinion doesn't count, right?

In other words, you think children should be left to themselves, with no rules or boundaries of any kind, to do just WHATEVER the (insert you own cuss word here) they want, no matter how much they might smart for it?

Oh please, I was born in 1984 and I got spanked plenty of times. Setting boundaries, and rules so that the child can grow up into a productive member of society (instead of a thug or a welfare leech) isn't child abuse.

QFT.
Johnny B Goode
05-12-2007, 01:13
seems a tad abusive for a math teacher to do.

did he include what a womanizer and wastrel hank was?

Wastrel, but nothing about womanizing. Well, the teacher was always a little crazy, not just because of his obsession with Hank Williams.
Fudk
05-12-2007, 01:22
In other words, you think children should be left to themselves, with no rules or boundaries of any kind, to do just WHATEVER the (insert you own cuss word here) they want, no matter how much they might smart for it?

Both of you seem to be thinking in the extremes. When you typed your first post, what he read was "If you hit a child, it isn't bad." He then responded, and what you read was "kids should never ever ever be hit. Ever." And so you responded accordingly. While you two may actually be holding these positions, I think you guys are over interperting a little bit here.

My opinion? Listen to the experts. The Child Phycologists.


See, this is very much a case and point in Conservatism VS Liberalism. Liberals will never make sense, and conservatives will always be right on line making TOTAL sense. Progressive thinking another name for Liberalism. What are we progressing towards? Chaos? Closed minded thinking? I really have to hand to the liberals of this world, you are truly a bread of your own. There is no logic that will work with a liberal, after all it's a disease. hehe

See you later, have fun going on and on. My, House, Wife, pets, and now my life are off to work now! BYE BYE!!!

Wow, I am Happy, and I don't need to be changed, doesn't that just mess with your mind! hehe

Does it scare you knowing that larger and larger percentages of the American population are steadily growing more and more liberal, and that "bleeding hearts" have doubled to now 13% of regular voters? Does it scare you knowing that this has the youngest median age after those who are so fed up with polotics that they dont even care any more?

Most likely you attribute it to our babying and pampering. I just think were getting smarter, personally. While I am conservative in some areas, socialist in others, and liberal on most (although I do technically support a Republican for president, I wouldnt really mind seeing numerous people across the spectrum win), I do think that this is a good sign. I also think that mindless conservatives like you are just as idiotic as mindless "CHAVEZ IS GOD" socialists and mindless "RON PAUL IS THE ONLY HOPE FOR AMERICA" libertarians.

That is how I view you, and why I am so glad that I am a part of the new generation, so I will have to deal with less and less of your type as time goes on

Fight fire with fire, Flame with Flame :D

Ok Im done
HSH Prince Eric
05-12-2007, 01:25
Loathe? Are they talking about all the people they have murdered, want to murder, want to rape and bragging about all the other crimes they've done?

Oops, that's rap. Otherwise known as LCD music.
Neo Art
05-12-2007, 01:29
Setting boundaries, and rules so that the child can grow up into a productive member of society (instead of a thug or a welfare leech) isn't child abuse.

Remember kids, if you love your children, beat them. If you don't, they'll turn into criminals and drug addicts!

:rolleyes:
Darknovae
05-12-2007, 01:31
Loathe? Are they talking about all the people they have murdered, want to murder, want to rape and bragging about all the other crimes they've done?

Oops, that's rap. Otherwise known as LCD music.

Rap is actually against my religion (which I invented myself, admittedly, oh well) and now country is too :)

Jesus, do these people not realize the dangers of smoking and drinking during pregnancy, mercury, lead, and whatever else? Besides, times have changed since the 1970's. People are more aware of danger.
Fudk
05-12-2007, 01:40
Loathe? Are they talking about all the people they have murdered, want to murder, want to rape and bragging about all the other crimes they've done?

Oops, that's rap. Otherwise known as LCD music.

Where does rap condone rape? it really doesnt. Maybe some fringe artists, but thats generalizing on account of a small minority. As for Murder and other crimes? What form of music HASNT sung about that? Rock has, most certainly. Regaee? Breaking drug laws. same goes for the beatles. Hell, ragtime had its songs about breaking Prohibition laws.

Thats the thing about music. Its almost always anti-establishment, in any form
Linstan
05-12-2007, 01:41
I stopped back to see what is going on. Flamebating is the latest. Nice. Really is that what it comes to, I bet threatening censorship is next. All because my ideas are disagreed with on this forum. Sad.

I did make point that was just never understood, or was so different that many think I must be insane or something. I keep making points, and obviously from the reading of the forums on NS I see it is completly full of liberal, progressive thinking people who have already made their minds up about everything. Funny thing, I am open to change, open to new ideas, but because I expressed a different political thought, many cannot see that. Not one post in support of what is in America today, straight classic conservatism.

My point in all of these posts so often missed and ignored is a simple one, that should not be ignored whether you are liberal or conservative. You have to work for what you get, and you have to appreciate the old time values brought up by a song that is yes VERY ridiculous. It is extreme. Yet, with certain thoughts being passed in this song it makes my posts VERY relevent and right on for this thread of posts. They just don't agree with the majority of the people of this forum. This should make it all interesting at the very least and maybe we can all learn something? I am not even trying to change the masses opinion. I can't do that. I am not even trying. I am only expressing my opinions and thought processes. If that is not even allowed, then indeed what's the point of posting any reply to anything on any forum here? Run off the conservative, He's a witch! Well he looks like a witch! Burn him!

That is the mentality at work from perspective here, and yes I am obviously just absolutely crazy, I must be. I keep talking to you guys!
Wilgrove
05-12-2007, 01:48
Remember kids, if you love your children, beat them. If you don't, they'll turn into criminals and drug addicts!

:rolleyes:

Wow.... what a way to take what I said and equate it to OMFG! CHILD ABUSE!!!11!!!!

Jeez I hope you're better in the court room.

FYI: Hitting the child because you're mad, or upset or you're just a general asshole, then yea that's abused. However if you spanked him because he broke a rule, and he knows why you're spanking him, then that isn't child abuse, it's spanking. My parents spanked me and they always told me why they were spanking me, and I turned out just fine.
Khadgar
05-12-2007, 01:50
Wow.... what a way to take what I said and equate it to OMFG! CHILD ABUSE!!!11!!!!

Jeez I hope you're better in the court room.

FYI: Hitting the child because you're mad, or upset or you're just a general asshole, then yea that's abused. However if you spanked him because he broke a rule, and he knows why you're spanking him, then that isn't child abuse, it's spanking. My parents spanked me and they always told me why they were spanking me, and I turned out just fine.

Fine aside from the whole "It's ok to beat children as long as you claim to have a reason" you mean.
Wilgrove
05-12-2007, 01:53
Fine aside from the whole "It's ok to beat children as long as you claim to have a reason" you mean.

Yea Time Out worked reeeallll well on me, when I'm in my room with my TV, video games, book (didn't have my own computer back then...) oohhh yea. :rolleyes:
Johnny B Goode
05-12-2007, 01:55
Remember kids, if you love your children, beat them. If you don't, they'll turn into criminals and drug addicts!

:rolleyes:

I really have to point out this strawman, because I'm practicing logical fallacies.
HotRodia
05-12-2007, 02:06
I really have to point out this strawman, because I'm practicing logical fallacies.

Well this is certainly a good place to find plenty of examples to follow. Lots of people practice their logical fallacies here.
[NS]Click Stand
05-12-2007, 02:12
My parents spanked me and they always told me why they were spanking me, and I turned out just fine.

My parents didn't spank me and I turned out just fine, so I don't see your point. Just because it worked for you doesn't mean it will work for others.

Speaking of logical fallacies, guys we just need to look into our hearts to find the truth that beating children is wrong.
South Lizasauria
05-12-2007, 02:21
Lamenting the loss of alcoholic mothers, lead based paint, school prayer, child abuse, and lack safety standards. Bravo. :rolleyes:

Gods what an idiotic song.

Most music I happen to hear while standing/sitting next to someone is equally as idiotic. Most of it is rock music ans like the music you posted it's lyrics preach a message of mindless self-destruction and outright fallacies. :gundge:

I miss the old music that encouraged genius,creativity,determination and commented on the beauty of nature. :(


Modern music comes from the crapper. :mad:
New Czardas
05-12-2007, 02:55
Well this is certainly a good place to find plenty of examples to follow. Lots of people practice their logical fallacies here.
Indeed, the thread is full of 'em -- I've done one or two myself (most notably strawman). Call it a bad habit.

I miss the old music that encouraged genius,creativity,determination and commented on the beauty of nature. :(
such as?
Bann-ed
05-12-2007, 02:59
such as?

Well, the obvious: Country Yodeling and Disco.
South Lizasauria
05-12-2007, 03:00
. . .

such as?

There was something about classical that would do that, also most old songs and poems from back in the says of swords and kings about nature and it's beauty.

Classical would also indirectly encourage genius, creativity and determination because the composers would become famous and then their lives would be told to students of later generations which would encourage them in turn to try to make their musical contribution to society. But unfortunately as the 19th century began it all began slowly going down an ever steepening slope.
Neo Art
05-12-2007, 03:03
Yea Time Out worked reeeallll well on me, when I'm in my room with my TV, video games, book (didn't have my own computer back then...) oohhh yea. :rolleyes:

yeah, you know how to make that work? Take away the fucking tv.
Neo Art
05-12-2007, 03:05
However if you spanked him because he broke a rule, and he knows why you're spanking him, then that isn't child abuse, it's spanking.

And somehow you're incapable of explaining that something is bad without hitting a child?

My parents spanked me and they always told me why they were spanking me, and I turned out just fine.

And mine didn't, and I'm a crack addict on welfare!

No...wait...I'm a corporate attorney with an Ivy League education...
JuNii
05-12-2007, 03:09
ok, can we please stop the spanking/anti-spanking debate since it's really not keeping near the topic of the thread?

unless someone actually spanks out a drum beat or something... :eek:

There was something about classical that would do that, also most old songs and poems from back in the says of swords and kings about nature and it's beauty.

Classical would also indirectly encourage genius, creativity and determination because the composers would become famous and then their lives would be told to students of later generations which would encourage them in turn to try to make their musical contribution to society. But unfortunately as the 19th century began it all began slowly going down an ever steepening slope.
I blame commercalism. as more and more people wanted to hear music, it had to be chopped down and made more appealing towards the masses. as recording devices were developed, less ballads and true classical forms were made.
Bann-ed
05-12-2007, 03:13
No...wait...I'm a corporate attorney with an Ivy League education...
:eek:
Dear God! I didn't know it was that bad.

Get this man some drugs, ASAP! :p
South Lizasauria
05-12-2007, 03:14
ok, can we please stop the spanking/anti-spanking debate since it's really not keeping near the topic of the thread?

unless someone actually spanks out a drum beat or something... :eek:


I blame commercalism. as more and more people wanted to hear music, it had to be chopped down and made more appealing towards the masses. as recording devices were developed, less ballads and true classical forms were made.

LOL :D:p That made my day.
Domici
05-12-2007, 03:17
Lamenting the loss of alcoholic mothers, lead based paint, school prayer, child abuse, and lack safety standards. Bravo. :rolleyes:

Gods what an idiotic song.

When conservatives say that with art it's a nostalgic ballad.
When liberals say it, it's stand-up comedy.

For those who think, life is a comedy. For those who feel, it's a tragedy.
South Lizasauria
05-12-2007, 03:20
When conservatives say that with art it's a nostalgic ballad.
When liberals say it, it's stand-up comedy.

For those who think, life is a comedy. For those who feel, it's a tragedy.

so liberals poke fun at life's problems and the suffering that comes with it while at the same time making some of those problems worse? Thats mean. :(
Neo Art
05-12-2007, 03:50
:eek:
Dear God! I didn't know it was that bad.

Get this man some drugs, ASAP! :p

nah, s'ok, done enough.

Actually, waaaaaaaay more than enough.
Johnny B Goode
05-12-2007, 03:58
Well this is certainly a good place to find plenty of examples to follow. Lots of people practice their logical fallacies here.

Well, I've found a niche.
New Czardas
05-12-2007, 04:02
There was something about classical that would do that, also most old songs and poems from back in the says of swords and kings about nature and it's beauty.

Classical would also indirectly encourage genius, creativity and determination because the composers would become famous and then their lives would be told to students of later generations which would encourage them in turn to try to make their musical contribution to society. But unfortunately as the 19th century began it all began slowly going down an ever steepening slope.
I'd say classical became an awful lot more intellectual in the 20th century, apart from the "beauty of nature" part. Anyway, almost no classical composers actually had nature in mind when they wrote their pieces, except in the 19th century with all of those stupid "program music" advocates and with explicitly themed works, as in cantatas or operas. As Igor Stravinsky once said, composers arrange notes, and that is all there is to it.

When conservatives say that with art it's a nostalgic ballad.
When liberals say it, it's stand-up comedy.

For those who think, life is a comedy. For those who feel, it's a tragedy.

Yet any tragic ballad is tinged with hope; and the most uproarious comedy has a note of despair in it.
Grape-eaters
05-12-2007, 05:11
unless someone actually spanks out a drum beat or something... :eek:

I've seen this. Not on a child, though.
Deus Malum
05-12-2007, 05:28
Loathe? Are they talking about all the people they have murdered, want to murder, want to rape and bragging about all the other crimes they've done?

Oops, that's rap. Otherwise known as LCD music.

What do Liquid Crystal Displays have to do with rap? :confused:
Bann-ed
05-12-2007, 05:30
What do Liquid Crystal Displays have to do with rap? :confused:

Neither are as good as CRTs. Cathode Ray Tube or Country Rocks Texas. Either or neither.
Deus Malum
05-12-2007, 05:35
Neither are as good as CRTs. Cathode Ray Tube or Country Rocks Texas. Either or neither.

DLP projectors ftw.

I'm working on convincing my folks to get one for the basement, and just project onto the wall. We can get a 100" screen if we set it up right. Unfortunately they have their hearts set on a 73" Plasma.
Bann-ed
05-12-2007, 05:37
DLP projectors ftw.

I'm working on convincing my folks to get one for the basement, and just project onto the wall. We can get a 100" screen if we set it up right. Unfortunately they have their hearts set on a 73" Plasma.

It was developed by Texas Instruments, so it is okay in my book. Far superior to that puny 73" plasma 'screen'.
Deus Malum
05-12-2007, 05:38
It was developed by Texas Instruments, so it is okay in my book. Far superior to that puny 73" plasma 'screen'.

Bah. TI went downhill after solar calculators went out of fashion. All this newfangled TI-89 and TI-92 mess is just too darn high techmachul fer me.
Bann-ed
05-12-2007, 05:39
Bah. TI went downhill after solar calculators went out of fashion. All this newfangled TI-89 and TI-92 mess is just too darn high techmachul fer me.

*lynches you*
Deus Malum
05-12-2007, 05:42
*lynches you*

Yeah, like that's going to do anything.

*Deus' out of the noose*

What next, crucifiction?
Bann-ed
05-12-2007, 05:44
Yeah, like that's going to do anything.

*Deus' out of the noose*

What next, crucifiction?

*hastily shoves 2x4s behind shed*
Uhm...*draws gun and starts firing at anything that moves*
Remembaar Teh AlamooooOOO!
Coorsota
05-12-2007, 07:11
the stuff on the radio =/= good stuff for the most part. A few good songs here and there, but the country I like best is either Texas Country or Red Dirt. Reckless Kelly, Cory Morrow, Randy Rogers Band, Chris Knight (not quite TX country but damn good either way), Cross Canadian Ragweed (try Alabama and Bang My Head). Good shit. Try it sometime.
Domici
06-12-2007, 04:34
so liberals poke fun at life's problems and the suffering that comes with it while at the same time making some of those problems worse? Thats mean. :(

How do they make it worse? The point of comedy is to point out problems so that people are aware of them and they can be alleviated if not actually mended.

Balladeering never solved anything. Country is just emo with a big hat and belt buckle.
Smunkeeville
06-12-2007, 04:47
Yeah, like that's going to do anything.

*Deus' out of the noose*

What next, crucifiction?
:eek:
Deus Malum
06-12-2007, 04:48
:eek:

Just trying to live up to the name "Deus Malum."

I'm already behind on my smiting quota.
Bann-ed
06-12-2007, 04:48
Country is just emo with a big hat and belt buckle.
:eek:

I'll bet you've never heard ole Marshall Dillon say
Miss Kitty have you ever thought of running away
Settling down, would you marry me
If I asked you twice and begged you pretty please
She'd have said "yes" in a New York minute
They never tied the knot
His heart wasn't in it
He just stole a kiss as he rode away
He never hung his hat up at Kitty's place

I should've been a Cowboy
I should've learned to rope and ride
Wearing my six-shooter, riding by pony on a cattle drive
Stealing a young girl's heart
Just like Gene and Roy
Singing those campfire songs
Oh I should've been a cowboy

I might of had a side kick with a funny name
Running wild through the hills chasing Jesse James
Ending up on the brink of danger
Riding shotgun for the Texas Rangers
Go west young man, haven't you been told
California's full of whiskey, women and gold
Sleeping out all night beneath the desert stars
A dream in my eye and a prayer in my heart

If that doesn't stir something in the soul, or make you purchase some land out west....[place vague threat meant ?jokingly? here]
Smunkeeville
06-12-2007, 05:27
Just trying to live up to the name "Deus Malum."

I'm already behind on my smiting quota.

no, I was shocked and horrified and a little disappointed in myself after my most recent epiphany.
Deus Malum
06-12-2007, 05:31
no, I was shocked and horrified and a little disappointed in myself after my most recent epiphany.

What was it?
Smunkeeville
06-12-2007, 05:35
What was it?

that if you don't put my Christmas mafia in speed queue I will.....uh....not threaten you? also, sign up.

also, I just figured out who Bann-ed is because I thought I knew but decided not but just found out I was right.
Bann-ed
06-12-2007, 05:43
that if you don't put my Christmas mafia in speed queue I will.....uh....not threaten you? also, sign up.

also, I just figured out who Bann-ed is because I thought I knew but decided not but just found out I was right.

*reads post*
..
*stops, re-reads*
Wait, who am I?
Smunkeeville
06-12-2007, 05:45
*reads post*
..
*stops, re-reads*
Wait, who am I?

well, if you don't know, I'm not gonna tell ya.
Bann-ed
06-12-2007, 05:46
well, if you don't know, I'm not gonna tell ya.

I registered on the NSG Mafia forum. So I am guessing you saw my user-name there and discovered that I am the same person when I unceremoniously lynched Deus Malum.

Hrm?
Smunkeeville
06-12-2007, 05:47
I registered on the NSG Mafia forum. So I am guessing you saw my user-name there and discovered that I am the same person when I unceremoniously lynched Deus Malum.

Hrm?

si. also, sign up for my Christmas game.
Bann-ed
06-12-2007, 05:51
si. also, sign up for my Christmas game.

I'll try and find time, NSG itself drains what non-existent reserves of time I store somewhere in my left boot.
Poliwanacraca
06-12-2007, 05:53
There was something about classical that would do that, also most old songs and poems from back in the says of swords and kings about nature and it's beauty.

Hahahaha. Yeah, most "classical" songs were about those things...except, of course, for the overwhelmingly large number of songs about sex, sex, drinking, sex, drinking, more sex, more drinking, drinking because you can't have sex, and drunken sex.
Arandis
06-12-2007, 05:59
I like some country songs, I like some metal songs. My appreciation of a song is completely independent of it's genre.

Ya that's what I "thought". But then my friend introduced me to what he called non-mainstream rap that was actually good and didn't talk about hoes. It was still shitty. Just as bad. So as much as I would like to think that there are good and bad in all genres, Rap and country and a few others like pop and whatever is on MTC these fucking days are all shit (Except late at night when they occasionally play metal). Also, devoting a forum topic to a genre of music you hate is lame. Your only proving that their music has effected you. Just ignore it. Also, whoever it was that said he listens to the radio alot and sometimes theres bad music on all 3 stations, heres a thought; get a CD player or download music for your comp and play it off media player.
James_xenoland
06-12-2007, 06:24
*coughrapcough*
Bann-ed
06-12-2007, 06:27
*coughrapcough*

*pounds you on the back*
New Ziedrich
06-12-2007, 08:16
Just chiming in to say that the lyrics in the OP are garbage, and that I dislike most music in general.:)
Greater Trostia
06-12-2007, 08:40
I don't think I ever needed to learn to loathe country music. Or any genre. I was born with the natural gift of being able to instantly hate something.
Imperio Mexicano
06-12-2007, 11:19
Don't like it? Don't listen to it.

It's really that simple.
Domici
08-12-2007, 01:41
:eek:



If that doesn't stir something in the soul, or make you purchase some land out west....[place vague threat meant ?jokingly? here]

I stand by my assessment. Built like linebacker and he's still whining about not being manly enough. That and lyrics like "we'll put a boot in hour ass, it's the American way," well, he's clearly overcompensating (do I have the right guy? I don't follow country and I seem to keep mixing up the hat singer with Shanaia Twain's husband).
Letila
08-12-2007, 04:43
Yeah, talk about a terrible song. Glad I learned quickly to avoid that crap.
Rhalellan
08-12-2007, 04:58
and this is so much better?

Chorus: x2]
Soulja Boy up in This Hoe
Watch Me Crank It
Watch Me Roll
Watch Me Crank Dat Soulja Boy
Then Super Man Dat Hoe
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja Boy)
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja Boy)
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja Boy)
Now Watch Me Do
(Crank Dat Soulja Boy)

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[Verse 1:]
Soulja Boy up In This Hoe
Watch Me Lean And Watch Me Rock
Super Man Dat Hoe
Then Watch Me Crank Dat Robocop
Super Fresh, Now Watch Me Jock
Jocking On Them Haterz Man
When I Do Dat Soulja Boy
I Lean To The Left And Crank Dat Dance
(Now You)
I'm Jocking On Yo Bitch Ass
And If We Get The Fightin
Then I'm Cocking On Your Bitch
You Catch Me At Yo Local Party
Yes I Crank It Everyday
Haterz Get Mad Cuz
"I Got Me Some bathin apes"
[these lyrics are found on http://www.songlyrics.com]

[Chorus x2]

[Verse 2:]
I'm Bouncin On My Toe
Watch Me Super Soak Dat Hoe
I'ma Pass It To Arab
Then He Gonna Crank it up fo show(fo show)
Haterz Wanna Be Me
Soulja Boy, I'm The Man
They Be Lookin At My Neck
Sayin Its The Rubberband Man (Man)
Watch Me Do It (Watch Me Do It)
Dance (Dance)
Let Get To It (Let Get To It)
Nope, You Can't Do It Like Me
Hoe, So Don't Do It Like Me
Fo', I See You Tryna Do It Like Me
Man That Shit Was Ugly
Non Aligned States
08-12-2007, 05:20
What about the kids who didn't? What about the millions of kids inflicted with diseases like fetal alcohol syndrome, Down syndrome, and the like? What about those driven insane by mercury? What about those who were born mentally retarded? And so on and so forth.


Let's go a step further. Their ancestors survived on foraging and eating meat raw. They survived in fur hides, living in caves and huts, without electricity, roads or any of that modern stuff. They survived fighting off local wildlife with pointy sticks.

I wonder if any of them pine for that?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
08-12-2007, 05:27
Let's go a step further. Their ancestors survived on foraging and eating meat raw. They survived in fur hides, living in caves and huts, without electricity, roads or any of that modern stuff. They survived fighting off local wildlife with pointy sticks.

I wonder if any of them pine for that?
Well . . . (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism)
Basically, anything that has ever been is pined for by at least one person. For instance, there are times when I wish that we'd stopped at the Middle Ages. I could go live in a tree on some nobleman's estate and talk to my hunger delusions about local politics.
Non Aligned States
08-12-2007, 05:28
Well . . . (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism)
Basically, anything that has ever been is pined for by at least one person. For instance, there are times when I wish that we'd stopped at the Middle Ages. I could go live in a tree on some nobleman's estate and talk to my hunger delusions about local politics.

Pfft. I've yet to see a single anarcho-primitivist live up to his ideals fully.
Deus Malum
08-12-2007, 05:30
that if you don't put my Christmas mafia in speed queue I will.....uh....not threaten you? also, sign up.

also, I just figured out who Bann-ed is because I thought I knew but decided not but just found out I was right.

I'll have to pass on Mafia games for now. I'm just too insanely busy to devote the time necessary to those games. Also, I passed on leadership of the Queue to Kiryu, though that was over a month back so I'm not entirely sure what's going on.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
08-12-2007, 05:32
Pfft. I've yet to see a single anarcho-primitivist live up to his ideals fully.
And I bathe on a regular basis (going back to the medieval thing), and I'm pretty sure that the Country singer doesn't force feed his kid lead paint and mercury.
New Ziedrich
08-12-2007, 08:48
and this is so much better?
(Awful Song)

That was painful to read, and I'm sure it would sound even worse. That was just awful. People actually like this crap?
Intangelon
08-12-2007, 16:13
its not fair to judge a whole genre by its crappiest songs.

think of the worst song of your favorite genre. would it be fair of me to say that <that song> is why ive learned to loathe <that genre>?

of course not.

its a matter of the ratio of songs you really like to songs you really hate.

so when "a different world" comes on my radio, i change stations as quickly as possible. the likelihood is that the next station will have a song that is OK followed by a song i really like.

the WORST time is when you change stations and they are already playing "a different world" and change it again to the 3rd station just queueing it up!

those are the times i end up listening to rush limbaugh for a few minutes.

You had me right up to there. Unless you listen to Limbaugh in order to be able to shred the next dittopinhead who parrots him.

Country music isn't about facts, figures, clocks, and gauges-It's about reminiscence. It's popularity is due entirely to those memories, if not of better times, then at least times when we were still young and didn't know any better. A good country and western song had aspects of prison, Momma, and trains-much closer to the supposed roots of "(c)Rap" to American sensibilities-it's music from the wrong side of the tracks, and there's heart and soul wishing for more in it, as well as memories of youth. "Rap" is braggadocio and unwarranted claims of Manhood-yet no one mocks these lyrics. I suggest you have a few beers and sit back-once you lose your inhibitions, it's poignant and touching, even with horrid lyrics.

Wrong side of the tracks? I call bullshit. Country is mainstream in many places, including where I am. Race music was music from the wrong side of the tracks.

And nobody mocks rap? "Weird Al" has made a lucrative career out of it! Please, think about what you're typing before you hit "submit". You're just utterly wrong here.

I'd say classical became an awful lot more intellectual in the 20th century, apart from the "beauty of nature" part. Anyway, almost no classical composers actually had nature in mind when they wrote their pieces, except in the 19th century with all of those stupid "program music" advocates and with explicitly themed works, as in cantatas or operas. As Igor Stravinsky once said, composers arrange notes, and that is all there is to it.

Yet any tragic ballad is tinged with hope; and the most uproarious comedy has a note of despair in it.

"Stupid program music"? So Hector Berlioz, Richard Strauss, Edvard Greig, and many more of the greatest composers of the 19th/early 20th century were stupid? Really? Even Beethoven, whose Symphonies #7-9 are considered the programmatic archetype? If you knew anything of what you're typing about, you might be dangerous.

What do Liquid Crystal Displays have to do with rap? :confused:

I think the abbreviation was meant to convey "lowest common denominator", and in his context, he's right.