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What board game alteration irked you the most? The one that did me was when they altered the headgear of Risk pieces from shakos

http://www.greathallgames.com/abdgames/w%20riskPcs.jpg


to tricornes.

http://www.hasbro.co.uk/games/UploadedAssets/Games/Risk/main-risk.jpg

http://www.hasbro.com/risk/rules.cfm Wait for this to load, then click "Army Pieces".

I never played risk......

What board game alteration irked you the most? The one that did me was when they altered the headgear of Risk pieces from shakos

Wow, in the days that I played RISK the pieces were all just cylinders and prisms in the different colours :eek:

Wow, in the days that I played RISK the pieces were all just cylinders and prisms in the different colours :eek:

I remember those! That's going back a while...

I never played risk......

Then how are you supposed to learn how to lie to your friends?

Click Stand;13262953']Then how are you supposed to learn how to lie to your friends?

No. That would be Diplomacy....

damn risk is a good game.
but i only have the Lord Of The Rings version, never liked it as much.

No. That would be Diplomacy....

I've always wanted to learn to play that, but I don't have enough friends who are into that sort of game. :(

What board game alteration irked you the most? The one that did me was when they altered the headgear of Risk pieces from shakos

http://www.greathallgames.com/abdgames/w%20riskPcs.jpg


to tricornes.

http://www.hasbro.co.uk/games/UploadedAssets/Games/Risk/main-risk.jpg

I played Risk once. Almost took over Asia.

I've always wanted to learn to play that, but I don't have enough friends who are into that sort of game. :(

Yeah its game I never really had a go at either and I do regret it now...

adding the "strip" to poker, if only because I like money bags more

Wow, in the days that I played RISK the pieces were all just cylinders and prisms in the different colours :eek:

O, those were the days...

I still like playing Risk, it's one of the best boardgames I know. Every Christmas we hold a small Risk tournament in the family. It's great fun untill my nephew loses, he's such a bad loser. :rolleyes:

Wow, in the days that I played RISK the pieces were all just cylinders and prisms in the different colours :eek:

That change I liked.

Kamchatka has never fallen under my command.

Kamchatka has never fallen under my command.

So you've never won?

I don't like the credit card Monopoly. It pisses me off.

You don't get out much, do you?

I'd personally say that British Bulldogs being sanitised, whilst leading to 97% less trips to A&E for fat 6 year olds, was not a good change. Tag bulldog? Er, no.

Kamchatka has never fallen under my command.

I always get attack from Alaska via that freaky connection. Everytime I forget to put enough men in Kamchatka to defend it. And neither do I ever invade Alaska via that route. Pretty stupid.

So you've never won?

I got a risk which has certain "scenario's", for example conquer North America, Africa and a Continent of your choice. So it isn't necessary to conquer everything (though it is more fun).

I love Risk! I always start in Europe, and I usually manage to take half of Asia and Africa, but my armies are streched too thinly by that point, and I get destroyed in a massive counterattack. Nobody wants to play Risk with me anymore because it takes so long.

I was mildly annoyed when the little cars in that Life game were changed to minivans, but I just hate minivans.

I've always wanted to learn to play that, but I don't have enough friends who are into that sort of game. :(

I have the same problem. I would love to learn to play Diplomacy.

And I love the games Axis and Allies and Risk, but there just aren't many people that I know who like to play such stuff.... : (

I've always wanted to learn to play that, but I don't have enough friends who are into that sort of game. :(

I recommend Machiavelli (http://cgi.ebay.com/Machiavelli-Battleline-1977_W0QQitemZ270193499939QQihZ017QQcategoryZ2558QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

The same type of game except in renaissance Italy. And with expansion rules (like assassinating fellow players) that will know your socks-off!

I regularly pester my uncle into playing risk with me. It's usually a draw(we don't feel like playing for 5 hours.)

I hated when they started having all of these different type of Monopolies. Like "Tarheel Monopoly" or "NC State Monopoly". Although I do like "Aviation Monopoly."

There is this Aviation themed Board game that I want to buy, but I can't find it. :(

No. That would be Diplomacy....

Exactly. Just ask Christmahanikwanzikah :D

Wow, in the days that I played RISK the pieces were all just cylinders and prisms in the different colours :eek:

I like those better. The version I have uses the ridiculous Roman numerals, where the threes look like the ones and the fives look like threes. It's horrible, and is really uncomfortable to step on with your bare feet at six o' clock in the morning.
I don't like the credit card Monopoly. It pisses me off.
I haven't played it, but the idea really appeals to me. The thing I hate most about Monopoly is counting out the money, which then gets folded and stained and takes up the whole table, especially when you play with people who have no respect for board games. They're the people who manage not only to fold the money but the cards, and make what should be a nice clean stack sticky, or irregularly shaped. I hate those people, and condemn them, and their generations seven-fold, to eternal torment.

Board games are a very touchy subject for me.

I have the same problem. I would love to learn to play Diplomacy.

And I love the games Axis and Allies and Risk, but there just aren't many people that I know who like to play such stuff.... : (

The Diplomacy Pouch, diplom.org, is a great place to look. They've got a treasure trove of resources for Diplomacy, as well as hundreds of active games (though of course, only a handful of those are standard games in the process of being formed at any given time).

Not to mention links to dozens of articles on Diplomacy strategy going back all the way to the '70s.

Jocabia, Christma, and I have been in a game for a few months now, and we're finally beginning to come around for the kill.

I found the game!

http://level2.cap.us/documents/Hold_Short_083104142355.jpg

Hold Short: Aviation trivia Board Game.

Now I can pwn my family and friends with aviation knowledge! :D

I played Risk once. Almost took over Asia.

Lol, to be honest I turtle up in Australia while the other players Bicker and waste Reinforcements trying to take asia....

Lol, to be honest I turtle up in Australia while the other players Bicker and waste Reinforcements trying to take asia....

I had most of Asia, but everybody ganged up on me.

I had most of Asia, but everybody ganged up on me.

True, WAY too many places to be attacked from, Another note when you have asia. Take Ukraine, seems to be a Nice Chokepoint. I think it pretty much gets rid of 3 places to be attacked from to get 1 place to attack from.

True, WAY too many places to be attacked from, Another note when you have asia. Take Ukraine, seems to be a Nice Chokepoint. I think it pretty much gets rid of 3 places to be attacked from to get 1 place to attack from.

Nice. I didn't know that.

Meh, it's like 2 or 3 spaces you can stop from getting attacked if you take the ukraine...

Meh, it's like 2 or 3 spaces you can stop from getting attacked if you take the ukraine...

i have a couple different strategies, it always depends on who i'm playing, but my favorite is to build up my forces in europe and gain enough alliances to maintain a mutual nonaggression pact with those close to me in order to stall for enough time to become too powerful to stop. >: ) it's so deliciously evil!!!!! lol


but that's a very risky gambit, it either works out incredibly beautiful, or destroys me.

True, WAY too many places to be attacked from, Another note when you have asia. Take Ukraine, seems to be a Nice Chokepoint. I think it pretty much gets rid of 3 places to be attacked from to get 1 place to attack from.

I usually take North or South America first, then the other, then Africa, then Europe and cut across Asia to Australia. Then take Asia over

Like I said, I attempt to Gain Control of Australia, Fortify choke point, then attempt to conquer if I have any outside areas left lol...

Meh, it's like 2 or 3 spaces you can stop from getting attacked if you take the ukraine...

"Ukraine not weak!"

I love tricornes! :(

The game of life...it used to be so cool, now it sucks so hard.

Board games are a very touchy subject for me.

Me too. Ever had this scenario: "WHAT THE %#$*?!?!? WHO THE %*#$ BENT A CARD?!?!"? One time someone who was borrowing my game left it out (on the ground) and their dog trampled it and chewed the pieces. I wasn't to happy when I got it back.

Years ago when I was playing The Queen's Gambit (out of print, costs about $100 on ebay) I noticed a grease stain on the board. No-one would own-up to it but I'm fairly certain my father was examining the game while eating peanut butter-covered popcorn.

Strangely enough, the stain disappeared after about a year....

I love tricornes! :(

So do I. They're awesome hats.

But when your troops are wearing them it makes you feel like you're a terrorist rather then a conquerer.

Me too. Ever had this scenario: "WHAT THE %#$*?!?!? WHO THE %*#$ BENT A CARD?!?!"? One time someone who was borrowing my game left it out (on the ground) and their dog trampled it and chewed the pieces. I wasn't to happy when I got it back.

Years ago when I was playing The Queen's Gambit (out of print, costs about $100 on ebay) I noticed a grease stain on the board. No-one would own-up to it but I'm fairly certain my father was examining the game while eating peanut butter-covered popcorn.

Strangely enough, the stain disappeared after about a year....

dude... link to the game please? I wanna see XD

dude... link to the game please? I wanna see XD

http://images.funagain.com/back/huge/11282.jpg












http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/194535

Everything they've done to Monopoly just makes me want to cry. I miss the days when Monopoly was Monopoly.

Everything they've done to Monopoly just makes me want to cry. I miss the days when Monopoly was Monopoly.
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/23/a9/kifmToysAllHasbro_Powerpuff_Girls_Monopoly_Game1-resized200.jpg

http://www.tbird.org/Games/NFL.jpg

Like I said, I attempt to Gain Control of Australia, Fortify choke point, then attempt to conquer if I have any outside areas left lol...
Bah, all it takes is some smart ass getting lucky in Siam to keep you bottled down in Australia.
Africa is where its at. If you take the whole continent early on you're free to hit South America, Europe or Asia at your leisure, and you can leave the whole south undefended, because the Australians are all too drunk to navigate the Indian Ocean.

The change that most irks me is what they did to classic Battleship.

When I was little, the "oceans" were blue tinted clear plastic that sat over a graphic blue wavy field meant to make it look like water. The cases were larger, and the flipped up part had some gool graphics to give it a warship theme.

Now, the whole case is just one big cheap piece of molded plastic hinged to another.

As I understand it, they changed the fleets as well. Mine was Battleship(4), Carrier(5), Submarine(3), Cruiser(3) and Destroyer(2). I think I heard that they got rid of the subs?

I like Risk but I never have enough pieces or people to play with...I'm tired of pwning my 10 year old brother at that game

I played Risk once. Almost took over Asia.

I've only ever played Risk on itbox machines. Won a fiver. Bonus.

The change that most irks me is what they did to classic Battleship.

When I was little, the "oceans" were blue tinted clear plastic that sat over a graphic blue wavy field meant to make it look like water. The cases were larger, and the flipped up part had some gool graphics to give it a warship theme.

Now, the whole case is just one big cheap piece of molded plastic hinged to another.

As I understand it, they changed the fleets as well. Mine was Battleship(4), Carrier(5), Submarine(3), Cruiser(3) and Destroyer(2). I think I heard that they got rid of the subs?

Huh. The fleet I always knew was Carrier (5), Battleship (4), Submarine (3), Destroyer (3) and PT Boat (2).

But if you really want to be old-school, it was originally a pen and paper game.

I've only ever played Risk on itbox machines. Won a fiver. Bonus.

Would you believe I had to use Google to find out what an itbox is?

Were the figurines ever changed or is this just some bullshit spam you made up and vomited onto the forum? The pictures are of figurines versus art on the box, not of figurines versus figurines.

At any rate, those of us who aren't children should remember when Risk was played with pieces shaped like roman numerals, and lament the good old days.

Were the figurines ever changed or is this just some bullshit spam you made up and vomited onto the forum? The pictures are of figurines versus art on the box, not of figurines versus figurines.

I couldn't find pictures of the new figurines, but I swear to you that they all wear tricornes now. I think they are supposed to look like American revolutionaries. Go buy a copy of the new game yourself, it's only $20. Better yet, ask someone who's played it.

At any rate, those of us who aren't children should remember when Risk was played with pieces shaped like roman numerals, and lament the good old days.

I'm sorry, shakos were better. That change had to be made.

I haven't played it, but the idea really appeals to me. The thing I hate most about Monopoly is counting out the money, which then gets folded and stained and takes up the whole table, especially when you play with people who have no respect for board games. They're the people who manage not only to fold the money but the cards, and make what should be a nice clean stack sticky, or irregularly shaped. I hate those people, and condemn them, and their generations seven-fold, to eternal torment.

Board games are a very touchy subject for me.

I hate people who mistreat my games. I made someone buy me a new Apples to Apples game because they were eating Chex mix and handling my cards (I am allergic to Chex mix and since there is no good way to get the crumbs off the cards, then playing the game after that would have made me sick)

Also, my credit card problem is this, I hate credit cards. I think they are horrible and I don't buy anything on credit. The 'real money' version of Monopoly is being phased out and now you buy property with a Visa.....do you know how irresponsible that is?! I see it all the time now....you know you can't buy "play money" anymore? well, unless you go to one of those educational stores. You can buy "play plastic" though. Also, I hate the Visa commercials where the people who actually pay in cash are made out to be slow and stupid.

Money is a very touchy subject for me.

I found it. click this: http://www.hasbro.com/risk/rules.cfm, wait for it to load then hit "Army Pieces".

Money is a very touchy subject for me.

Oh, come now. Find a real thing to get upset about. Like board games. :)

What board game alteration irked you the most? The one that did me was when they altered the headgear of Risk pieces from shakos

http://www.greathallgames.com/abdgames/w%20riskPcs.jpg


to tricornes.

http://www.hasbro.co.uk/games/UploadedAssets/Games/Risk/main-risk.jpg

What irked me the most is the changes to the Axis and Allies board (especially the splitting up of the sea zone around England).

What irked me the most is the changes to the Axis and Allies board (especially the splitting up of the sea zone around England).

Is this for the computer game or the actual board game?


The board game I have has the sea zone as one area. But what kinda peeved me about the game is that there is absolutely zero advantage to taking over the neutral countries. They could have been a little more creative in how they split up the zones to where if you wanted to easily attack your opponent, you could just take over a neutral territory and strike them from it.

So there's really no point in the game for being bad and evil and attacking neutral nations. :(

I couldn't find pictures of the new figurines, but I swear to you that they all wear tricornes now. I think they are supposed to look like American revolutionaries. Go buy a copy of the new game yourself, it's only $20. Better yet, ask someone who's played it.



I'm sorry, shakos were better. That change had to be made.

No, you're absolutely right. In fact, just today I went to Target and sure enough, those gay bastards were wearing tricornes instead of shakos.

And you're absolutely right, I LOVE the shakos, they are so sweet! I think the modern militaries should still wear them. :D

I really hated when Illuminati got rid of income and megabucks in favor of actions and bingo chips. Also, the One With Everything had all these ridiculous individuals who really didn't belong in the game.

Of all the things they have done to Monopoly over the years, I just remembered "Monopoly: Electronic banking edition" makes me want to beat somebody in the face with it.

Would you believe I had to use Google to find out what an itbox is?

I'd believe that pretty easily... found in pubs, possibly just in the UK, but probably internationally to some extent.

I'd believe that pretty easily... found in pubs, possibly just in the UK, but probably internationally to some extent.

i've never heard of it before

Lots of freeware Risk goodness:

http://sillysoft.net/lux

http://www.marioferrari.org/freeware/turborisk/turborisk.html

My favourite game as a kid was "Careers", complete with Uranium Prospecting. Of course, they had to go and ruin that... as if Computer Programming's anywhere near as enticing a career. Hmmph.

You don't get out much, do you?

I'd personally say that British Bulldogs being sanitised, whilst leading to 97% less trips to A&E for fat 6 year olds, was not a good change. Tag bulldog? Er, no.

ha, we played that all the time in boy scouts until this one kid had to break his arm. Then the adults were like "no." So we switched to smear the queer.

I remember when nations were added to NationStates. Dear Neptune! It was a horrible...horrible.. and sad, oh so sad, day.

Is this for the computer game or the actual board game?


The board game I have has the sea zone as one area. But what kinda peeved me about the game is that there is absolutely zero advantage to taking over the neutral countries. They could have been a little more creative in how they split up the zones to where if you wanted to easily attack your opponent, you could just take over a neutral territory and strike them from it.

So there's really no point in the game for being bad and evil and attacking neutral nations. :(

The board game. The original one had one sea zone around England. The new version of the game (after Wizards of the Coast bought it) has 2 zones.

But thanks for reminding me. I love the original Axis and Allies video game (exactly like the original board game), and hate the new version of it (it's a different game from the board game).

Of all the things they have done to Monopoly over the years, I just remembered "Monopoly: Electronic banking edition" makes me want to beat somebody in the face with it.

For the time I play against my sister or some of my friends, the Electronic Banking Edition is a good idea (because it keeps sticky fingers out of the bank till).

The board game. The original one had one sea zone around England. The new version of the game (after Wizards of the Coast bought it) has 2 zones.

But thanks for reminding me. I love the original Axis and Allies video game (exactly like the original board game), and hate the new version of it (it's a different game from the board game).

oh yeah, the original computer game is EXCELLENT. I still have it and play it from time to time, when I can't manage to scrounge up enough people to play the board game, lol

i remember the first time i played risk, what an amazing game. beat any other board game ever made.

the version i grew up with had roman numerals for pieces.

The board game. The original one had one sea zone around England. The new version of the game (after Wizards of the Coast bought it) has 2 zones.

Actually...it's five sea zones.

http://files.boardgamegeek.com/bggimages/pic42540.jpg

Of all the things they have done to Monopoly over the years, I just remembered "Monopoly: Electronic banking edition" makes me want to beat somebody in the face with it.

Eww. I don't want to know...

All this talk of risk has got me thinking. Anyone play Defcon?

In my experience, if you are playing a game of Risk for more than two or three hours you are doing something wrong.

Same goes with Axis and Allies. Usually it is pretty clear fairly early on who is going to win. Almost always the Allies, unless the person or people playing the Allies suck hard.

Also remember the most classic blunder is "never get in a land war in Asia."

Same goes with Axis and Allies. Usually it is pretty clear fairly early on who is going to win. Almost always the Allies, unless the person or people playing the Allies suck hard.

Also remember the most classic blunder is "never get in a land war in Asia."
Heh. I remember the last time when I played 'Axis and Allies' as the Germans. I kept building transport ships in Italy, and the player running Britain kept sending his airforce over to sink these before I could ferry troops across to Africa in them... It wasn't until after the game that I revealed my true reason for building them: Replacing the aircraft that he'd been losing in each raid (when they had to pass the AA defences in both France and Italy) had been costing him a LOT more than building those transports had been costing me... ;)

I remember when I played Risk!, when ever someone took conquered Australia and a bit of southern Asia as a buffer zone it would take a campaign of epic proportions to unseat them. The dice just don't like when you roll agasint the Aussies.

The most upsetting alteration to the game is the fact that you all just lost it.

The most upsetting alteration to the game is the fact that you all just lost it.

I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!


:mad:

I couldn't find pictures of the new figurines, but I swear to you that they all wear tricornes now. I think they are supposed to look like American revolutionaries. Go buy a copy of the new game yourself, it's only $20. Better yet, ask someone who's played it.



I get the impression that you couldn't find pictures because it isn't true, which puts this thread in the stratosphere of inane, attention-starved bullshit.

What board game alteration irked you the most? The one that did me was when they altered the headgear of Risk pieces from shakos

http://www.greathallgames.com/abdgames/w%20riskPcs.jpg


to tricornes.

http://www.hasbro.co.uk/games/UploadedAssets/Games/Risk/main-risk.jpg

Heh the one that done me in was when they altered the playing pieces of Risk from them nice hexagonal shapes, tiny little army men!

I agree with Smunkee and tph - electronic Monopoly sucks. Part of the fun of monopoly is being the Banker and handing out money.

I'd personally say that British Bulldogs being sanitised, whilst leading to 97% less trips to A&E for fat 6 year olds, was not a good change. Tag bulldog? Er, no.

:eek: When was it sanitised? I have great memories of hideous violence and picking gravel out of my knees :D

:eek: When was it sanitised? I have great memories of hideous violence and picking gravel out of my knees :D

Heheh or what about safe conkers?

Pfft, conkers is always safe.

Always.

Even when you customise the conker with razor blades, steel plate, and nails.

oh yeah, the original computer game is EXCELLENT. I still have it and play it from time to time, when I can't manage to scrounge up enough people to play the board game, lol

Have you ever tried the Iron Blitz edition? The things Iron Blitz added were destroyers and Marines. It also fixed a few bugs in the game (like the occasional shutdown of the game for no reason).

I get the impression that you couldn't find pictures because it isn't true, which puts this thread in the stratosphere of inane, attention-starved bullshit.

For the last time, click "Army Pieces" once this loads: http://www.hasbro.com/risk/rules.cfm

I'd believe that pretty easily... found in pubs, possibly just in the UK, but probably internationally to some extent.

I've never been to a bar, and Wiki says they're mostly UK.

The most upsetting alteration to the game is the fact that you all just lost it.

You know what? I hadn't lost for a week. I have strong dislike for you right now ...

The most upsetting alteration to the game is the fact that you all just lost it.

You sir, are a bastard of the highest order :( I am now forced to inform *all* my friends and ruin their day, all because of you. Can you live with that on your conscience? :p

As for game alterations, I'd say my most distressing one would be... probably for video gaming, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance on the Playstation. It was a horrifying travesty that didn't deserve to masquerade under the Baldur's Gate name.

For board games, I'm gonna go with Disney Scrabble - absolutely no changes to gameplay whatsoever. The only difference was that there were some sickening pictures of 'Disney princesses' on the board. I'm guessing it probably also cost some poor sucker an extra five quid.

Well, I'd have to say the new card design for Magic: The Gathering (8th ed. on) is rather annoying; it is now immensely more difficult to differentiate between artifacts and white cards. Bah. Oh yes, and all those new races (Tau, Necron, et al) for Warhammer 40K. Now if only they'd lower their prices on that...

Heh. I remember the last time when I played 'Axis and Allies' as the Germans. I kept building transport ships in Italy, and the player running Britain kept sending his airforce over to sink these before I could ferry troops across to Africa in them... It wasn't until after the game that I revealed my true reason for building them: Replacing the aircraft that he'd been losing in each raid (when they had to pass the AA defences in both France and Italy) had been costing him a LOT more than building those transports had been costing me... ;)

Well, did you win? If not, doesn't seem like a very practical strategy ;)

Well, I'd have to say the new card design for Magic: The Gathering (8th ed. on) is rather annoying; it is now immensely more difficult to differentiate between artifacts and white cards. Bah. Oh yes, and all those new races (Tau, Necron, et al) for Warhammer 40K. Now if only they'd lower their prices on that...

Yeah but the old back were dark and ugly.

The changeover from the THAC0 system to D20 for AD&D...

But worse, the complete rewrite of White Wolf's supernaturals games (Vampire, Werewolf, et al.). Good lord, what a stinking cesspit of horsemanure.

the worse boardgame alteration? the upteenmilion versions of Monopoly.

The worse game alteration? Marvel's Superhero RPG game.

Also remember the most classic blunder is "never get in a land war in Asia."

Only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

The changeover from the THAC0 system to D20 for AD&D...

But worse, the complete rewrite of White Wolf's supernaturals games (Vampire, Werewolf, et al.). Good lord, what a stinking cesspit of horsemanure.

they redid Vampire/werewolf/mage/etc...?

I thought they ended the Vampire system?

Only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

I just saw that movie on recently. Ahhh, good times.

the worse boardgame alteration? the upteenmilion versions of Monopoly.

The worse game alteration? Marvel's Superhero RPG game.

I liked the 1980s edition from TSR. Haven't seen the newer one. That awful?

they redid Vampire/werewolf/mage/etc...?

I thought they ended the Vampire system?

Vampire the Requiem, Werewolf the Forsaken -- they were the suck.

Gimme the second edition any day!

Click Stand;13268815']I just saw that movie on recently. Ahhh, good times.

LOL the two quotations I use all the time: when one of my colleagues is running off to class, "Have fun storming the castle!"

And when one of my students whines, "But I WANT it NOW!", "Get used to disappointment."

I liked the 1980s edition from TSR. Haven't seen the newer one. That awful? point system and stones with a Comic Book format.

instead of turns, you use panels and pages (I shit you not.) and everything depends on how many 'stones' you put in your action. less luck, but more bookkeeping.

Vampire the Requiem, Werewolf the Forsaken -- they were the suck.

Gimme the second edition any day!
I thought Requiem came before Apocolypse... if not... I'll stick with Masqurade.

Wow, in the days that I played RISK the pieces were all just cylinders and prisms in the different colours :eek:

Mee too! :eek:

The most upsetting alteration to the game is the fact that you all just lost it.

You are a horrible person, and I hope you die and burn in hell. :mad:

I had been winning for a month!

Click Stand;13268752']Yeah but the old back were dark and ugly.

It was distinctly artifact though. Artifacts are (were originally) aberrations...like Phyrexia...and were so much cooler because they were distinct.

Well, did you win? If not, doesn't seem like a very practical strategy ;)
We actually dropped the game without either side reaching victory, once a couple more members of our group had arrived, to play a RPG instead...

they redid Vampire/werewolf/mage/etc...?

I thought they ended the Vampire system?They did, and then they restarted it, removing the "the world's going to end" part of the game and making the different systems more compatible.

Only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

I do not think that means what you think it means!

point system and stones with a Comic Book format.

instead of turns, you use panels and pages (I shit you not.) and everything depends on how many 'stones' you put in your action. less luck, but more bookkeeping.


I know this. I own the core book plus the two expansion books. I think it's pretty good game myself (if you use tokens, or poker chips to keep track of "stones".)

The only problem with it is that guns don't do jack to anybody.

Lol, to be honest I turtle up in Australia while the other players Bicker and waste Reinforcements trying to take asia....

Ah, yes. The classic festering strategy.

I hate people who mistreat my games. I made someone buy me a new Apples to Apples game because they were eating Chex mix and handling my cards (I am allergic to Chex mix and since there is no good way to get the crumbs off the cards, then playing the game after that would have made me sick)

Also, my credit card problem is this, I hate credit cards. I think they are horrible and I don't buy anything on credit. The 'real money' version of Monopoly is being phased out and now you buy property with a Visa.....do you know how irresponsible that is?! I see it all the time now....you know you can't buy "play money" anymore? well, unless you go to one of those educational stores. You can buy "play plastic" though. Also, I hate the Visa commercials where the people who actually pay in cash are made out to be slow and stupid.

Money is a very touchy subject for me.

I love me some Apples to Apples!

I hate that Visa commercial too. They can have my cash when they pry it from my cold, dead, debt-loaded hands.

What irked me the most is the changes to the Axis and Allies board (especially the splitting up of the sea zone around England).

Annoying, but needed for at least a semblance of realism with regard to motion. Otherwise, one movement point to get from Murmansk to Scotland is kinda ridiculous.

I really hated when Illuminati got rid of income and megabucks in favor of actions and bingo chips. Also, the One With Everything had all these ridiculous individuals who really didn't belong in the game.

I dunno, I liked Illuminati: New World Order ("kill your enemies, betray your friends, have some coffee...")

Eww. I don't want to know...

All this talk of risk has got me thinking. Anyone play Defcon?

No, but I like to play Supremacy every once in a while. Stock up on L-Sats in my gaming cabal.

The changeover from the THAC0 system to D20 for AD&D...

But worse, the complete rewrite of White Wolf's supernaturals games (Vampire, Werewolf, et al.). Good lord, what a stinking cesspit of horsemanure.

THAC0 was stupid. Admit it. Why would you ever choose to deal with negative numerals if there was a way not to? How is shifting the whole mess to the right of zero on the number line bad?

I was a fan of Vampire the Masquerade. Preferred the Brujah myself.

Favorite boardies:

Twilight Imperium
Civilzation (it was a board game first, and it is epic)
Beachhead
Bismarck
Afrika Corps
Borderlands
Euro Rails
The Cataan series
Axis & Allies
Fortress America
Shogun
Starfleet Battles
Car Wars (I AM STILL WAITING FOR A CONSOLE OR PC UPDATE OF THIS GAME -- THE CLASSIC AUTODUEL BY LORD BRITISH AND CHUCKLES HAS NEVER BEEN EQUALED! Car COMBAT has come a long way, yes, but the added savor of designing and truly customizing your own car and having to manage weight, handling, acceleration, armor, tires, firepower and technology -- there has been nothing like it since).
Arkham Horror
Risk, of course
Risk 2210

I know this. I own the core book plus the two expansion books. I think it's pretty good game myself (if you use tokens, or poker chips to keep track of "stones".)

The only problem with it is that guns don't do jack to anybody.

which is why I like the old system. you hit someone hard enough and you can stun or kill them. reguardless of how many stones you start with.

which is why I like the old system. you hit someone hard enough and you can stun or kill them. reguardless of how many stones you start with.

In the new one you can choose to be "stunned" rather then killed. Not a good system for guns, agreed. Yet as long as the antagonists are mostly supers it works well for me.

Also, I hate the Visa commercials where the people who actually pay in cash are made out to be slow and stupid.
What passes though my mind when I see those Visa/paypass commercials is "gee... no checking of id, no signature... someone steals a card, and it's 'shopping spree'"

In the new one you can choose to be "stunned" rather then killed. Not a good system for guns, agreed. Yet as long as the antagonists are mostly supers it works well for me.

same in the old system. your health goes to "0" and you will fall unconcious and not die.

however, the possiblity of your hero 'killing' a villian is possible and it does bring consequences.

That three nice guns in this close combat weapons sprue have become useless in today's WH40K:

http://de.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=8515

That three nice guns in this close combat weapons sprue have become useless in today's WH40K:

http://de.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=8515

I know the hand flamer, but what are the other two?