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Which would do you think the United States is closest to?


Here are the Nation States government types
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I'd probably call it a Corporate Bordello.

I put Compulsory Consumerist State instead of Corporate Bordello because allot of the types were almost the same

It's shifted through history, but under Beloved Dear Leader?

I'd say Compulsory Consumerist State.

I'd probably call it a Corporate Bordello.

In before someone says "Psychotic Dictatorship."

Seriously, though, I'd go with Inoffensive Centrist Democracy. We do have free speech, but we also have a lot of religious-based laws. We have elections, but not too many good choices. We also have economic freedom wrapped up in a lot of regulations.

I'd have to say Inoffensive Centrist Democracy also for the reasons given directly above me.

Anyone else notice on the map how the more libertarian a nation is on all three criteria the closer it is to being an Anarchy? Maybe Max is trying to make a statement here?

Even though it's not on the list, I'd say "Capitalist Paradise". Your list is missing alot...

It has to be either Inoffensive Centrist Democracy or Capitalist Paradise although the Bush Administration has done a great job nudging the U.S. towards a Moralist Democracy or a Right-Wing Utopia.

Even though it's not on the list, I'd say "Capitalist Paradise". Your list is missing alot...

The U.S. does not have a "small, efficient government," though.

Anyone else notice on the map how the more libertarian a nation is on all three criteria the closer it is to being an Anarchy? Maybe Max is trying to make a statement here?

Hes not trying to make a statement, thats just how it is. Im prob more Liberal than anything (that doesnt mean i follow the liberals, im going by the textbook definition) but the more rights you give to the people and limit a single power the closer that is to an anarchy.

Anyone else notice on the map how the more libertarian a nation is on all three criteria the closer it is to being an Anarchy? Maybe Max is trying to make a statement here?

Ironically, it suggests that the only anarchist model possible is a libertarian an-cap system. There's no way to get total economic freedom using the communist/socialist answers to the current issues...which is why, of course, it's generally good to disregard your issues when it comes to roleplaying.

Ironically, it suggests that the only anarchist model possible is a libertarian an-cap system. There's no way to get total economic freedom using the communist/socialist answers to the current issues...which is why, of course, it's generally good to disregard your issues when it comes to roleplaying.

Interestingly, you can get a really good economy as an anarcho-socialist in this game, and still get the Anarchy ranking. The ratings for economy aren't purely based on economic freedoms.

Even though it's not on the list, I'd say "Capitalist Paradise". Your list is missing alot...

Pick Free Market Paradise

I can only put 10 things on there

Of course you probably voted for "this poll sucks" already

Inoffensive centrist democracy. There are too many regulations and taxes, too many controls on personal life and a surveillance state, and no system of competing authority and little control over which candidates are presented, but there are worse countries.

Interestingly, you can get a really good economy as an anarcho-socialist in this game, and still get the Anarchy ranking. The ratings for economy aren't purely based on economic freedoms.

Really? Every issue I've seen that offers economic choices is either capitalist or statist (with a few exceptions).

Of course, since some issues are only given to nations in a certain bracket, it's likely I haven't seen them. My nation's always been a hardcore capitalist state, so I don't even get the option to decide on issues that would apply to a socialist one.

Really? Every issue I've seen that offers economic choices is either capitalist or statist (with a few exceptions).

Of course, since some issues are only given to nations in a certain bracket, it's likely I haven't seen them. My nation's always been a hardcore capitalist state, so I don't even get the option to decide on issues that would apply to a socialist one.

Yes, really. I've done it with a puppet nation.

The U.S.A. is a conservative democracy. Because of it's endemic militant conservatism, what many Americans call freedom is actually a sort of positive liberty. Id est, you are given freedom to behave within parameters that are established by religion and traditional conventions.

I think this undermines the very definition of freedom. I think Americans who espouse this view don't understand what freedom is.

The U.S.A. is a conservative democracy. Because of it's endemic militant conservatism, what many Americans call freedom is actually a sort of positive liberty. Id est, you are given freedom to behave within parameters that are established by religion and traditional conventions.

I think this undermines the very definition of freedom. I think Americans who espouse this view don't understand what freedom is.

Haha I see what you mean. The problem is though that we elect officials who try to bring these religous and traditional problems into government issues as a way of making people happier with what they're doing. We should be more tolerant in our elections and laws and let the churches condemn people for what they see as morally wrong.

Without a doubt: Compulsory Consumerist State.

A mix of corporate bordello, capitalizt, and tyranny by majority.

The U.S.A. is a conservative democracy. Because of it's endemic militant conservatism, what many Americans call freedom is actually a sort of positive liberty. Id est, you are given freedom to behave within parameters that are established by religion and traditional conventions.

I think this undermines the very definition of freedom. I think Americans who espouse this view don't understand what freedom is.

What is freedom? Has there ever been a society in history that is actually free by your definition?

Well, definitely not any of the ones with lowest or highest economic freedom, lowest or highest personal freedom. That leaves political freedom, which would not be the highest... hm, or lowest. Inoffensive Centrist Democracy.

You might not know this, but while America isn't too bad to live in, they treat 3rd world countries like shit. For example, in Iraq, they've put in an american puppet president and its probable that the elections were rigged. They also destroy countries, they're economies and depose their governments as it suits them. I'm sure all the G8 countries do this but America is the most publicised one.

You might not know this, but while America isn't too bad to live in, they treat 3rd world countries like shit. For example, in Iraq, they've put in an american puppet president and its probable that the elections were rigged. They also destroy countries, they're economies and depose their governments as it suits them. I'm sure all the G8 countries do this but America is the most publicised one.

.........and?

The only things relevant to where a country would place on the NS scale is the personal, political and economic freedoms enjoyed by its citizens. Compared to some objective standard of measuring freedom, which sadly we don't have.

But the point is a country could be an "inoffensive centrist democracy," but that doesn't mean it can't also invade 3rd world countries, destroy their economies and depose their governments....