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So would Cryogenic Freezing actually be successful? I've heard of several people who froze them self after they died, and sometimes before. Would you actually be able to just wake up one day after being unfrozen in the year 3000 and resume life as normal? I don't know how possible this would be, I'm sure the ice slows down the decomposition process, but your body is still decomposing and sooner or later you'll be like the ice man that they find in the Arctic. Not to mention your body will be anthropic after being dormant for so long, you may end up in a wheelchair on life support anyways. So what do you guys think, Cryogenic Freezing, possible way to preserve yourself for the future, or a new way to bury a body?

Well, it's possible, but you're better off putting your money towards keeping yourself alive rather than banking on cryogenic technology for after you're dead. Metaphysical questions aside, the biggest problems are technical; freezing and thawing both cause a lot of small-scale damage to the body, and of course there's that second bit about actually successfully reanimating the person in question.

We're far, far more likely to find ways to circumvent involuntary death far sooner than ways to successfully store and revitalize a person after they've died. It's just more practical (and lucrative) to achieve the former, and as we all know the economics are what make something succeed or fail in the end.

Now? Moneymaking opportunity.

Down the road? Who knows. Science can do anything.

I wouldn't trust any of the current technologies. When we cryogenically store tissues and the like, each individual tissue type has its own freezing protocol. Even different types of cells need different freezing protocols if you want to have a decent number of cells alive when you thaw them. Rates of death vary, but it isn't unusual at all to lose over half of the cells even in a fairly optimized process.

The processes used to freeze your body or head use a single protocol for the entire body. While we may one day have something that can repair all the damage they are doing to the tissues, I doubt any of the current companies taking thousands of dollars from scared people will even be around by that point.

Down the road? Who knows. Science can do anything.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/shaddamIV/SCIENCE.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/shaddamIV/SCIENCE.jpgWhat happens when you put a portal inside a portal?

What happens when you put a portal inside a portal?

Nothing good...

(Come to think of it, I've never tested that despite playing the game multiple times.)

You can't do it.
Firing a portal into a portal is impossible.

I didn't think so.

Nothing good...

(Come to think of it, I've never tested that despite playing the game multiple times.)

You can't do it.
Firing a portal into a portal is impossible.

Nothing good...

(Come to think of it, I've never tested that despite playing the game multiple times.)

What game?

What game?

Portal.

What happens when you put a portal inside a portal?


That same question was asked by this man.

http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/article/826/826796/planetfargo-experimental-new-team-fortress-strategies-20071011055257975.jpg

And this is what happened.

http://media.gamespy.com/columns/image/article/826/826796/024b_1192153036.jpg

So would Cryogenic Freezing actually be successful? I've heard of several people who froze them self after they died, and sometimes before. Would you actually be able to just wake up one day after being unfrozen in the year 3000 and resume life as normal? I don't know how possible this would be, I'm sure the ice slows down the decomposition process, but your body is still decomposing and sooner or later you'll be like the ice man that they find in the Arctic. Not to mention your body will be anthropic after being dormant for so long, you may end up in a wheelchair on life support anyways. So what do you guys think, Cryogenic Freezing, possible way to preserve yourself for the future, or a new way to bury a body?

Futurama anybody?

VITAL ADVICE TO DUBYA: If you get cryogenically preserved, remember to bring a winter coat and a space heater. It's freezing in there!

Apologies to Scott Adams.

i do wish people would stop confusing their body with their selves.

i never cease to be amazed by the self contradiction of people who claim to be spiritual doing so. an athiest could almost be forgiven for failing to make this distinction, but anyone who claims to recognize the existence of any sort of unseen awairness just has to be totally not thinking or not connecting dots or something.

as for solving tecnological challanges, this is something people do. engineering people especially. what it will take to solve this one, how long, or if someone somewhere might have already done so, i really don't know.

it does seem that some day, when the questions of recombinent d.n.a. can be solved without causing cancer, there's no reason people couldn't be given the capacity to go into a kind of extended hybernation.

another, more mechanical tecnofix, would be the stasis field, in which time itself is suspended.

freezing has the problem with earthly live forms that we are made up mostly of water and water freezing expands, bursting cell walls, and turning once living organizems into lifeless and semi-homoginized mush.

i've read descriptions of ways arround this, of questionable effectiveness however. something like long suspended sleep may someday be possible. it may be already. i make no claim to certain knowledge either way.

one thing i am reasonably confident of, is that society and thus 'the world' it creates and perceives, chainges over time. so there is also the question of maintenence of ones life suspension enclosure and how and why it can be expected to be maintained. if the world chainges, as it inevitably will, and no one can be expected to get anything out of keeping you half alive once it does, if even before then.

this has always been the biggest fly in that ointment, even once the techno-detals are solved.

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i do wish people would stop confusing their body with their selves.

Why assume there's any confusion? As far as I'm concerned, my body is me.

Some parts (like bits of hair) are of course less important than others (like bits of brain) - but going around thinking that on the one hand there's my physical body, and on the other there's some sort of extra thing which is me, makes about as much sense as thinking about the Cheshire Cat vanishing but his grin somehow being left behind.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/shaddamIV/SCIENCE.jpg

Why is the shadow of the bathtub exiting the portal before it enters the other portal? Wouldn't that mean that it's blocking more light than is physically possible?

Why is the shadow of the bathtub exiting the portal before it enters the other portal? Wouldn't that mean that it's blocking more light than is physically possible?

Because of SCIENCE!

Why is the shadow of the bathtub exiting the portal before it enters the other portal? Wouldn't that mean that it's blocking more light than is physically possible?Because it isn't?:confused:

Why is the shadow of the bathtub exiting the portal before it enters the other portal? Wouldn't that mean that it's blocking more light than is physically possible?

SCIENCE. Also unsupervised no-bid government contracting.

i do wish people would stop confusing their body with their selves.

And what if the self is intricately linked with the body? If awareness is merely a sparkle of intricately connected neurons?

It could certainly lead up to some interesting questions, especially when it comes to precision grade cloning. If an exact clone was crafted of you, fired up in a way where its every function at the time of "activation" was the same as yours, would it be you?

Of course he'd wouldn't be the "you" you. He'd be the other you. But as far as that other you is concerned, he is you. And when you is you, and there are two of you, what happens?

I can't imagine the human psyche being built to withstand that sort of scenario occurring without some sort of damage.

Why is the shadow of the bathtub exiting the portal before it enters the other portal? Wouldn't that mean that it's blocking more light than is physically possible?

No, that's the portal's shadow, implicating that it isn't a perfectly two dimensional construct.

Well, it's possible, but you're better off putting your money towards keeping yourself alive rather than banking on cryogenic technology for after you're dead.
What about freezing myself before dying to be revived far in the future?

Because it isn't?:confused:

The portals themselves don't cast a shadow, it's clearly the forward curve of the tub's shadow.

No, that's the portal's shadow, implicating that it isn't a perfectly two dimensional construct.
Only one portal casts a shadow? The entry one doesn't.

The portals themselves don't cast a shadow, it's clearly the forward curve of the tub's shadow.


Only one portal casts a shadow? The entry one doesn't.
It's the shadow of the entrance, projected through the exit.:)

Why is the shadow of the bathtub exiting the portal before it enters the other portal? Wouldn't that mean that it's blocking more light than is physically possible?

Because the game engine isn't perfect I guess.

Personally, I like the way that the scientist's shadow can clearly be seen overlapping that of the bathtub, even though the bathtub appears to be opaque.

Personally, I like the way that the scientist's shadow can clearly be seen overlapping that of the bathtub, even though the bathtub appears to be opaque.

*repeats to self* It's only a game.. it's only a game... it's only a game... it's only a game...

Because of SCIENCE!

Yes... SCIENCE! (http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/index.php)

*repeats to self* It's only a game.. it's only a game... it's only a game... it's only a game...

Are you sure? That 'SCIENCE' photograph looks very life-like to me. I'm afraid I need more evidence before I can discount it as in any way fake or fabricated.