NationStates Jolt Archive


Can I wish you a merry Christmas?

IL Ruffino
26-11-2007, 02:38
As the holidays approach we start to realize the terrible problems of diversity that has been making December a free-for-all-esque generic month. While the Christians were the first to celebrate in America, terrorist entry points such as Ellis Island have given the minority the chance to walk all over us and dramatically change our culture to "Holiday trees" and "Happy Holidays" which could be seen as insulting.

When such vile religious extremists try to pull a PR stunt such as Hanukkah, and using gelt to tear our children away from proper Christian (American) values, it really hurts me.

Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?
Bann-ed
26-11-2007, 02:42
Damnit! Stay away from me you....FUNDAMENTALIST FIEND!
Take the Christ out of X-Mas! Take the Apple Pie out of America!
Turn the C in Chr!stmas into Capitalism!
Capitalistmas!
CAPITALISTMAS!
Or if you prefer:
COMMERCIALISTMAS!
The South Islands
26-11-2007, 02:45
also, cocks
Bann-ed
26-11-2007, 02:46
also, cocks

crispy ones at that
Bann-ed
26-11-2007, 02:49
But it isn't even Xmas yet! :(

Censored. For those who may not want to be exposed to your vile indoctrination.
The South Islands
26-11-2007, 02:49
crispy ones at that

Kreamy Krispy Kocks?
Laerod
26-11-2007, 02:50
But it isn't even Christmas yet! :(
Kamsaki-Myu
26-11-2007, 02:50
crispy ones at that
Tender, crisp, bacon, cheddar cocks?
Call to power
26-11-2007, 02:51
But it isn't even Christmas yet! :(

I'm sorry but the coke ad with the trucks has already come (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ogetBqMgau0&feature=related)

Christmas is less than a month away now and I have already brought a new computer and some muscle man stuff, now I just have to do all my loved ones with whatever is left
The Sancta Sedes
26-11-2007, 02:53
Can we at least wait 'till December? I'm still celebrating National Indian Hunt Day.
The South Islands
26-11-2007, 02:53
Tender, crisp, bacon, cheddar cocks?

http://www.fastfoodweblog.nl/www/images/hootie_burgerking_copy.jpg
Katganistan
26-11-2007, 02:58
As the holidays approach we start to realize the terrible problems of diversity that has been making December a free-for-all-esque generic month. While the Christians were the first to celebrate in America, terrorist entry points such as Ellis Island have given the minority the chance to walk all over us and dramatically change our culture to "Holiday trees" and "Happy Holidays" which could be seen as insulting.

When such vile religious extremists try to pull a PR stunt such as Hanukkah, and using gelt to tear our children away from proper Christian (American) values, it really hurts me.

Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?

You can wish me a Merry Christmas while I throw Hanukkah gelt into your stocking. (Hey man, it's free chocolate!)

I have a little dreidel
I made it out of clay
And when it's dry and ready
Then dreidel I shall play

CHORUS

Oh dreidel dreidel dreidel
I made it out of clay
And when it's dry and ready
Then dreidel I shall play
It has a lovely body
With legs so short and thin
And when it is so tired
It drops and then I win!

CHORUS

My dreidel's always playful
It loves to dance and spin
A happy game of dreidel
Come play now, let's begin!

(LOL, I send out Christmas cards every year, but I get Hanukkah cards for those of my friends that celebrate.)
Jinos
26-11-2007, 03:01
Um...who cares? I get about a month off and a shit-load of free stuff/money!

Woot.
Bann-ed
26-11-2007, 03:02
Xmas isn't really a secularlist way of saying Christmas. X is the symbol for chi which technically is Christ. Well go to snopes.com

It is a diluted form...
x=chi=technically Christ
Which is far from just saying Christ. Not to mention the uneducated folk like myself do not see X as Christ, so it hardly matters what some greek scholars made up.
Kitsuneville
26-11-2007, 03:03
Damnit! Stay away from me you....FUNDAMENTALIST FIEND!
Take the Christ out of X-Mas! Take the Apple Pie out of America!
Turn the C in Chr!stmas into Capitalism!
Capitalistmas!
CAPITALISTMAS!
Or if you prefer:
COMMERCIALISTMAS!

Xmas isn't really a secularlist way of saying Christmas. X is the symbol for chi which technically is Christ. Well go to snopes.com
SaintB
26-11-2007, 03:08
You can wish me a merry christmas Ruffy!

In return I would like to wish everyone a happy and memorable politically correct holiday of their own choosing.
Free Socialist Allies
26-11-2007, 03:15
Merry Christmas from an agnostic.

I don't let religion ruin my Christmas.
Dalmatia Cisalpina
26-11-2007, 03:26
Sure, you can wish me a Merry Christmas if you're so inclined. :)
NERVUN
26-11-2007, 04:12
No, but you can wish me a メーリクリスマス. From the bottom of your heart if you want to. ;)
Maraque
26-11-2007, 05:11
A happy and merry Christmahanakwanzika to all!
Bann-ed
26-11-2007, 05:48
No, but you can wish me a メーリクリスマス. From the bottom of your heart if you want to. ;)

That some sort of Cthulhu summoning chant?
Dryks Legacy
26-11-2007, 05:50
You can wish me a merry/happy whichever holiday you want :)
Posi
26-11-2007, 05:52
What does Christianity have to do with Christmas?
Wilgrove
26-11-2007, 06:04
Happy Winter Solstice
Happy Dong Zhi
Happy Signature of the Constiution of the Republic of China
Merry Christmas
Merry Yule
Happy Hanukkah
Happy Eid ul-Adha
Happy Sadeh
Happy Saturnalia
Have a woderful Festival of the birth of the Unconquered Sun
Merry Boxing Day
Happy Kwanzaa
Happy Karachun
Have a wonderful Rohatsu

and if I've forgotten any winter holidays, then Happy whatever you celebrate to you too!
Anti-Social Darwinism
26-11-2007, 06:56
All I have to say is .... Merry Winter Solstice and Happy Gross National Product Day:D


Oh, and .... Merry Christmas, everyone - whether you want it or not.
Zilam
26-11-2007, 07:36
As a Christian, I find your wishing me a Merry Christmas insulting.

And yes, I am serious about that.
Vegan Nuts
26-11-2007, 07:39
yuletide bliss, merry christmas, joyful diwali, and happy chanakuh! (or however you spell it)
Wilgrove
26-11-2007, 07:41
As a Christian, I find your wishing me a Merry Christmas insulting.

And yes, I am serious about that.

Ok...care to elaborate?
Kyronea
26-11-2007, 07:42
As a Christian, I find your wishing me a Merry Christmas insulting.

And yes, I am serious about that.

As an atheist, I find your offense hilarious.
Zilam
26-11-2007, 07:46
Ok...care to elaborate?
Two reasons.

1) The idea of Christmas( materialism) goes against what Christ said in many of His messages.

2) Making a big deal about Christmas, such as what some fundies do, saying its some holy day for baby Jesus is such a dick thing to do. If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.

I hate Christmas, like all holidays.
Vegan Nuts
26-11-2007, 07:46
If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.might I suggest you read Fr. Alexander Schmemann's discussion of the cycle of the church year? (this is someone who has also written books on the commandment to "pray without ceasing") - Orthodox, like the ancient christians, take holidays very seriously...and they also are vastly more interested in constant worship and prayer than any other christian denomination...they aren't antithetical.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
26-11-2007, 07:52
Can we at least wait 'till December? I'm still celebrating National Indian Hunt Day.

Exactly. December 1 should be the earliest.
Wilgrove
26-11-2007, 07:53
Two reasons.

1) The idea of Christmas( materialism) goes against what Christ said in many of His messages.

2) Making a big deal about Christmas, such as what some fundies do, saying its some holy day for baby Jesus is such a dick thing to do. If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.

I hate Christmas, like all holidays.

Well I guess we know who's going to be playing Scrooge at your Church's Christmas play.

1.) I still celebrate Christmas even though it has turned into a materalistic Holiday, because it's more than just buying gift. It's about spending time with family and loved one. Also during this time I like to take part in Salvation Army bell ringing, buying gift for the poor and donating money to the foundations helping the poor. Yes, I do buy gift for family and friends, but I do it to show how much I love and care about them.

2.) So, the birth of not only the son of God, but God itself shouldn't be considered a holy event?
IL Ruffino
26-11-2007, 07:58
As an atheist, I find your offense hilarious.

See? This is why I love you.
Krissland
26-11-2007, 08:05
Well I'm a Buddhist so I'm really only celebrating Christmas to my mom happy, as she see it as a time to bring family who live far away together. But you can wish me a Merry Christmas if you want. As long you know that I'm not a Christian and I am one of them.

Happy Bodhi Day!
Zilam
26-11-2007, 08:06
Well I guess we know who's going to be playing Scrooge at your Church's Christmas play.

1.) I still celebrate Christmas even though it has turned into a materalistic Holiday, because it's more than just buying gift. It's about spending time with family and loved one. Also during this time I like to take part in Salvation Army bell ringing, buying gift for the poor and donating money to the foundations helping the poor. Yes, I do buy gift for family and friends, but I do it to show how much I love and care about them.

2.) So, the birth of not only the son of God, but God itself shouldn't be considered a holy event?


1) Why not care for the poor year long? Why not appreciate and spend time with family year long? Why do it only during the holidays?

I know why. Because its fashionable. We've grown accustomed to it.

2) Sure, its a holy even. But I think that His teachings are far more important than His birth. His teaching, if followed, could change the whole world for the best. What does celebrating His birth do? Not much. I choose to live a life modeled after His life.
Wilgrove
26-11-2007, 08:08
1) Why not care for the poor year long? Why not appreciate and spend time with family year long? Why do it only during the holidays?

I know why. Because its fashionable. We've grown accustomed to it.

2) Sure, its a holy even. But I think that His teachings are far more important than His birth. His teaching, if followed, could change the whole world for the best. What does celebrating His birth do? Not much. I choose to live a life modeled after His life.

1.) You know what they say about assuming, I do care for the poor all year long and I do spend time with my family all year long. The holidays just make it extra special.

2.) It's still pretty big, kinda a virgin giving birth kind of big. Yea, it's that big. *nods* You assume that people who celebrate Christmas doesn't following his teaching, see #1 about assuming.
Kyronea
26-11-2007, 08:12
See? This is why I love you.

:fluffle:
South Lizasauria
26-11-2007, 09:24
Title: Christmas 300 trailer

Narrarator: We Christians beleive in the Son of God himself. Taught never to give in, never to surrender, to die a martyr is the greatest glory a Christian can achieve in battle. Christians, the most faithful intellectual warriors the world has known!

Christian stripped of rights in 1st Amendment: It's quiet now....they came from the blackness....

Liberal: Be afraid! Christianity will burn to the ground! The thousand subversive groups of liberalism descend upon YOU! Our lies will blot out the sun!

Christian: Then we will fight in the shade!

*later*

Pastor: What must a pastor do to protect his flock?

Wife: Instead ask yourself what would Jesus do?


(Church)

Atheist messenger: We demand you give up religious rights given to you from the 1st amendment and change 'Christmas' to holidays! If you don't we will take those rights away with force...Choose your words wisely for this maybe the last time they're legal....

Christian Pastor: *pulls out giant yet sharp candy cane and points it at the atheist's neck* ........

Atheist messenger:Madman! Your a madman! No man Christian or liberal threatens a messenger! It's politically incorrect!

Pastor:You want lack of freedom eh? You'll find plenty of that down there!

Pastor: You, threatened to recall the first amendment, you bring the letters of resignation from conquered pastors to my church steps you threatened my people with oppression and death then you insult my wife!! I chose my words carefully, maybe you should have done the same!

Atheist messenger:This is religious! This is madness!

Pastor: Madness???? THIS IS CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *kicks atheist off balcony*

(battle)

Pastor: And by biblical law we will stand and fight! And die for the cause.... A new age has begun! An age of freedom! And all will know that 300 Christians gave their last breath to defend it! CHRISTIANS! TONIGHT WE GIVE THEM HELLL!!!!!!!!!!GIVE UP NOTHING BUT TAKE FROM THEM.....EVERYTHING!!!

Chruch Member: We're in for one wild night....

X-mas????? THIS IS CHRISTMAS!!! http://www.minusequalscolon.com/sparta.gif
RomeW
26-11-2007, 09:27
Two reasons.

1) The idea of Christmas( materialism) goes against what Christ said in many of His messages.

2) Making a big deal about Christmas, such as what some fundies do, saying its some holy day for baby Jesus is such a dick thing to do. If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.

I hate Christmas, like all holidays.

Seems like you hate more "what Christmas has become" than Christmas itself. Christmas is supposed to be about celebrating Christ's Birth and bringing together families (who may only have a few days out of a whole year to accommodate such a task). The commercialism is reprehensible, yes, but don't let it take away from what the day is supposed to really be about.
Aardweasels
26-11-2007, 09:35
Tender, crisp, bacon, cheddar cocks?

If you've got cheddar, it's time to BATHE, man.
The Blaatschapen
26-11-2007, 10:27
As the holidays approach we start to realize the terrible problems of diversity that has been making December a free-for-all-esque generic month. While the Christians were the first to celebrate in America, terrorist entry points such as Ellis Island have given the minority the chance to walk all over us and dramatically change our culture to "Holiday trees" and "Happy Holidays" which could be seen as insulting.

When such vile religious extremists try to pull a PR stunt such as Hanukkah, and using gelt to tear our children away from proper Christian (American) values, it really hurts me.

Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?

You cannot wish me a Merry Christmas yet, wait for the 7th of December :)
Nipeng
26-11-2007, 10:29
I choose to live a life modeled after His life.All His life or just the part with kicking the money-changers out of the temple?
Lunatic Goofballs
26-11-2007, 10:37
Two reasons.

1) The idea of Christmas( materialism) goes against what Christ said in many of His messages.

2) Making a big deal about Christmas, such as what some fundies do, saying its some holy day for baby Jesus is such a dick thing to do. If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.

I hate Christmas, like all holidays.

COnsidering how many weddings Jesus attended, and how much wine He put down at said weddings, I suspect He loves holidays. :)
Nodinia
26-11-2007, 11:02
. While the Christians were the first to celebrate in America, terrorist entry points such as Ellis Island have given the minority the chance to walk all over us and dramatically change our culture to "Holiday trees" and "Happy Holidays" which could be seen as insulting.


The problem started with letting in the Irish. That started the rot....
Ifreann
26-11-2007, 11:19
Only if I can wish you a happy Turkey Fisting Season in return.
Ifreann
26-11-2007, 11:29
X-mas????? THIS IS CHRISTMAS!!! http://www.minusequalscolon.com/sparta.gif

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/thisisspamix4.gif
South Lorenya
26-11-2007, 11:32
You should switch to Dragonmas -- it's a week earlier and features sexy, scantily-clad females.
Ifreann
26-11-2007, 11:45
You should switch to Dragonmas -- it's a week earlier and features sexy, scantily-clad females.

They better not be female dragons.
BackwoodsSquatches
26-11-2007, 11:51
crispy ones at that

*metal fist*
BackwoodsSquatches
26-11-2007, 11:55
Two reasons.

1) The idea of Christmas( materialism) goes against what Christ said in many of His messages.

2) Making a big deal about Christmas, such as what some fundies do, saying its some holy day for baby Jesus is such a dick thing to do. If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.

I hate Christmas, like all holidays.

Jehovah's Witness?
Cameroi
26-11-2007, 12:15
you may wish me a mellow midwinter's eve. and i likewise you the same.

and without breastfeeding the corporate mafia in the proccess.

but instead the love of the truely great unknown.

and the smell of yule tree pine needles on a crisp snowey morning.

with the tinkle of windchimes and the humm of electric tramsit motors.

and huge raggle-taggle crowds of internationally freedom riding anti-shoppers, arriving by every imaginable and many unimaginable means, mobbing shopping malls and cheerfully singing their non-sectarian anti-shopping songs everywhere.

with strainge looking bi, gay and streight anthropomorphic creatures sitting down to food and drink togather in perfect harmony, if somewhat less then perfect voice.

and little furry grey ufo crews staring wide eyed at the wonder of it all.

twinkle twinkle little star, how i wonder what kind of strainge lovely wonderfulness are the people of your inhabited planets.

=^^=
.../\...
Peepelonia
26-11-2007, 14:25
As the holidays approach we start to realize the terrible problems of diversity that has been making December a free-for-all-esque generic month. While the Christians were the first to celebrate in America, terrorist entry points such as Ellis Island have given the minority the chance to walk all over us and dramatically change our culture to "Holiday trees" and "Happy Holidays" which could be seen as insulting.

When such vile religious extremists try to pull a PR stunt such as Hanukkah, and using gelt to tear our children away from proper Christian (American) values, it really hurts me.

Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?

Heh you can certianly wish me a merry Xmas, but I would just say bah humbug back at ya. I Ain't a Christian!:p
Longhaul
26-11-2007, 14:53
We already did this subject to death in this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543622) ;)

My stance remains the same... anyone is welcome to wish me a Merry Christmas if they please, since it would be pretty small-minded of me to object, just as long as they accept that it may not mean the same to me as it does to them.
Bottle
26-11-2007, 15:01
To my ears, "Merry Christmas" is kind of like saying "bless you" when somebody sneezes. I say "bless you" sometimes, just reflexively, because it's what you say when somebody sneezes. It doesn't actually mean "I hope that the Good Lord sends blessings down upon you," it's just the thing you say when somebody sneezes, because it's polite.

"Merry Christmas" is what I say to people when there's a shitload of red and green crap everywhere and it's snowing. It's just that thing you say to be polite.
Kryozerkia
26-11-2007, 15:07
As the holidays approach we start to realize the terrible problems of diversity that has been making December a free-for-all-esque generic month. While the Christians were the first to celebrate in America, terrorist entry points such as Ellis Island have given the minority the chance to walk all over us and dramatically change our culture to "Holiday trees" and "Happy Holidays" which could be seen as insulting.

When such vile religious extremists try to pull a PR stunt such as Hanukkah, and using gelt to tear our children away from proper Christian (American) values, it really hurts me.

Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?

Sure you can; I honestly don't give a crap. Just don't be dissin' our Lord, St. Octopus. Her 8 tentacles brought us life, justice, liberty, equality, serenity, love, loyalty and righteousness. Just be respectin' our St. Octopus.

(What? Never heard of it? Well... I should think not. It's a tradition in my household in place of Hanukkah and Christmas and every other pagan holiday under Ra.)
Smunkeeville
26-11-2007, 15:07
Jehovah's Witness?

random Christian psuedo-muslim legalist.
Dyakovo
26-11-2007, 16:09
Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?

Nope, you can't, because its not even December yet. ;)
Dyakovo
26-11-2007, 16:12
What does Christianity have to do with Christmas?

Probably already been said, but Christmas celebrates the supposed birth of a person from christian mythology i.e. Jesus Christ
Khadgar
26-11-2007, 16:15
You can wish me a Merry Christmas, but I make no promises that I won't look at you like you're stupid and or annoying.
Intestinal fluids
26-11-2007, 16:30
COnsidering how many weddings Jesus attended, and how much wine He put down at said weddings, I suspect He loves holidays. :)

Yea the guys got the stuff like coursing thru his veins or something.
Peepelonia
26-11-2007, 16:32
Yea the guys got the stuff like coursing thru his veins or something.

Ahhhh thats explains the wine of holy communion, now if only I could figure out them wittle biscuits?
Intestinal fluids
26-11-2007, 16:33
Ahhhh thats explains the wine of holy communion, now if only I could figure out them wittle biscuits?

Your supposed to eat something when you drink silly.
Lunatic Goofballs
26-11-2007, 16:37
Yea the guys got the stuff like coursing thru his veins or something.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/1560325345060086/fg1/

:)
Peepelonia
26-11-2007, 16:37
Your supposed to eat something when you drink silly.

No no, thats before you drink! Besides I prefer Custard Creams
Ashmoria
26-11-2007, 16:42
yes you can. i love to be wished merry christmas. its so festive. im good with being wished a happy hannukkah (as long as i dont have to spell it) or cool kwanzaa too. its all done with the best of intentions, i dont see a reason to be pissy about it.
Andaluciae
26-11-2007, 16:47
You may certainly wish me a Merry Christmas, but I also feel that I am fully deserving of a grievance airing in the spirit of Festivus come this time of year.
Peepelonia
26-11-2007, 16:47
I don't think they wanted to make the body of Christ tasty. The whole process is creepy enough...

Umm perhaps, but then why make the blood alcoholic?
Anti-Social Darwinism
26-11-2007, 16:48
Two reasons.

1) The idea of Christmas( materialism) goes against what Christ said in many of His messages.

2) Making a big deal about Christmas, such as what some fundies do, saying its some holy day for baby Jesus is such a dick thing to do. If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.

I hate Christmas, like all holidays.

You hate all holidays. Do you celebrate anything at all? It seems to me that humans are hardwired to celebrate things on a regular basis. We need holidays and celebration for our emotional, spiritual and physical health. If a reason for celebration doesn't exist, we'll create one. From earliest pre-history, we've been celebrating. We love a good party. By the way, so did Jesus.

If you don't celebrate anything, you must be one dull, sick puppy.
Cannot think of a name
26-11-2007, 16:48
No no, thats before you drink! Besides I prefer Custard Creams

I don't think they wanted to make the body of Christ tasty. The whole process is creepy enough...
Mirkana
26-11-2007, 17:17
If I do not know a person's religion, I say "Happy Holidays" - since I'd rather get it right, and "Happy Holidays" includes everyone. If I can be more specific, I will be.

You can wish me both a Happy Chanukkah (or Hanukkah, or any of the other fifty bajillion spellings) and a Merry Christmas (I celebrate both).

I have a little dreidel
I made it out of clay
And when it's dry and ready
Then dreidel I shall play

CHORUS

Oh dreidel dreidel dreidel
I made it out of clay
And when it's dry and ready
Then dreidel I shall play
It has a lovely body
With legs so short and thin
And when it is so tired
It drops and then I win!

CHORUS

My dreidel's always playful
It loves to dance and spin
A happy game of dreidel
Come play now, let's begin!


I had a little dreidel
I made it out of straw
It went eighty miles an hour
And broke the speeding law

CHORUS

Later, I'll start a thread for holiday songs.
Neo Bretonnia
26-11-2007, 17:20
By all means. As a Mormon, I celebrate Christmas.

And if someone wishes me a Happy Haunakkah, I'll say "Thankya!" because it's Haunakkah whether I celebrate it or not, and of course I want to be happy!

So if you want to wish me Merry Christmas I'll return the sentiment.

And if you wish me a happy Haunakkah, Yule, Ramadan or anything else, I'll get a warm fuzzy and say "you too!"

Because really... having a different belief is no reason for a pissing match when people are trying to be nice.
Andaluciae
26-11-2007, 17:24
Because really... having a different belief is no reason for a pissing match when people are trying to be nice.

QFtmfT
Anti-Social Darwinism
26-11-2007, 17:29
By all means. As a Mormon, I celebrate Christmas.

And if someone wishes me a Happy Haunakkah, I'll say "Thankya!" because it's Haunakkah whether I celebrate it or not, and of course I want to be happy!

So if you want to wish me Merry Christmas I'll return the sentiment.

And if you wish me a happy Haunakkah, Yule, Ramadan or anything else, I'll get a warm fuzzy and say "you too!"

Because really... having a different belief is no reason for a pissing match when people are trying to be nice.

Sigged.
Neo Bretonnia
26-11-2007, 19:15
Sigged.

W00T!
Dyakovo
26-11-2007, 19:39
...
Because really... having a different belief is no reason for a pissing match when people are trying to be nice.

You're taking all the fun out now :(;)
Iniika
26-11-2007, 20:00
Two reasons.

1) The idea of Christmas( materialism) goes against what Christ said in many of His messages.

2) Making a big deal about Christmas, such as what some fundies do, saying its some holy day for baby Jesus is such a dick thing to do. If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.

I hate Christmas, like all holidays.

Well, you are certainly more than welcome to huddle miserable and sulking, complaining about how the heathens have ruined your holy day on the 25th. It's honestly no skin off my back. But if that's how you see it, then I just have to say that you guys started it. You bring your beliefs to people who neither need them or want them and then complain when they take them and make them something different.

I, on the other hand, am going to be enjoying a week of dinner with friends around a warm fire with cocoa, a wii and hand painted gifts.

So neener to you! ^-^
JuNii
26-11-2007, 20:34
Mele Kalikimaka to everyone!
RomeW
26-11-2007, 21:59
By all means. As a Mormon, I celebrate Christmas.

And if someone wishes me a Happy Haunakkah, I'll say "Thankya!" because it's Haunakkah whether I celebrate it or not, and of course I want to be happy!

So if you want to wish me Merry Christmas I'll return the sentiment.

And if you wish me a happy Haunakkah, Yule, Ramadan or anything else, I'll get a warm fuzzy and say "you too!"

Because really... having a different belief is no reason for a pissing match when people are trying to be nice.

I agree wholeheartedly- I mean, it's one thing to get worked up about the "N-Word" or something like that because it's meant to be offensive- but something like "Merry Christmas"? There's no malicious intent in that phrase, so I see no reason to get upset about it (in fact, I'll say I'll get upset if someone gets upset at me for using "Merry Christmas"- do you really think I mean to offend?).
Charlotte Ryberg
26-11-2007, 22:14
Ahem, a custom reply.

Christmas day is not a holiday here, but send a message to 5% of my population who are Christian.
Myrmidonisia
26-11-2007, 22:16
Two reasons.
2) Making a big deal about Christmas, such as what some fundies do, saying its some holy day for baby Jesus is such a dick thing to do. If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.

The voice of ignorance speaks... True fundamentalists -- The Church of Christ, for one, believe what is in the bible. No day is declared for either the birth of Christ or for his resurrection. So, Christmas and Easter are not celebrated as special days. Indeed, as you have said, Christ is worshiped every day.

That's the problem with Baptists... They aren't real fundamentalists.
Khadgar
26-11-2007, 22:18
You hate all holidays. Do you celebrate anything at all? It seems to me that humans are hardwired to celebrate things on a regular basis. We need holidays and celebration for our emotional, spiritual and physical health. If a reason for celebration doesn't exist, we'll create one. From earliest pre-history, we've been celebrating. We love a good party. By the way, so did Jesus.

If you don't celebrate anything, you must be one dull, sick puppy.

I hate all holidays, they serve only to disrupt routine and seriously fuck up schedules. If you weak sods must have the damned things have the decency to put them on weekends so as not to fuck up everyone's week.
Myrmidonisia
26-11-2007, 22:21
I hate all holidays, they serve only to disrupt routine and seriously fuck up schedules. If you weak sods must have the damned things have the decency to put them on weekends so as not to fuck up everyone's week.

Wow! Talk about a hard-core work-aholic. Personally, I look forward to having a paid holiday, once in a while, without having to resort to spending my own vacation time.
New Limacon
26-11-2007, 23:07
Two reasons.

1) The idea of Christmas( materialism) goes against what Christ said in many of His messages.

2) Making a big deal about Christmas, such as what some fundies do, saying its some holy day for baby Jesus is such a dick thing to do. If those people were true believers, they'd worship Christ every minute of every day, no matter if its Christmas, easter, or some other day.

I hate Christmas, like all holidays.

That's a rather puritanical attitude (literally). Of course everyone should worship Christ 24/7, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't celebrate on certain days.
The materialistic feast Christmas has become is unfortunate, but don't blame the holiday.
New Limacon
26-11-2007, 23:11
By all means. As a Mormon, I celebrate Christmas.

And if someone wishes me a Happy Haunakkah, I'll say "Thankya!" because it's Haunakkah whether I celebrate it or not, and of course I want to be happy!

So if you want to wish me Merry Christmas I'll return the sentiment.

And if you wish me a happy Haunakkah, Yule, Ramadan or anything else, I'll get a warm fuzzy and say "you too!"

Because really... having a different belief is no reason for a pissing match when people are trying to be nice.
Very well put, all of it. Just trying to be nice should be encouraged, not sneered at.

It seems that after this, we should all just stop posting and sing together.
Khadgar
27-11-2007, 00:24
Wow! Talk about a hard-core work-aholic. Personally, I look forward to having a paid holiday, once in a while, without having to resort to spending my own vacation time.

There's no logic in working two or three times as hard just so you can have an extra day off. I work in the trucking business, holidays fuck everything up. Christmas is going to be a bitch landing on a Tuesday. Going to ball trucks up everywhere.
NERVUN
27-11-2007, 00:36
That some sort of Cthulhu summoning chant?
Nope, but it's what the Japanese mangle Merry Christmas into. ;)
Julianus II
27-11-2007, 00:42
As the holidays approach we start to realize the terrible problems of diversity that has been making December a free-for-all-esque generic month. While the Christians were the first to celebrate in America, terrorist entry points such as Ellis Island have given the minority the chance to walk all over us and dramatically change our culture to "Holiday trees" and "Happy Holidays" which could be seen as insulting.

When such vile religious extremists try to pull a PR stunt such as Hanukkah, and using gelt to tear our children away from proper Christian (American) values, it really hurts me.

Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?

Merry Christmas.
Happy Holidays
Enjoy your Winter Break.
Curious Inquiry
27-11-2007, 00:46
Ruffy, I don't know if you can wish me a merry Christmas, but you may ;)
Sumamba Buwhan
27-11-2007, 01:20
it's all a big conspiracy man!
Bann-ed
27-11-2007, 01:25
Nope, but it's what the Japanese mangle Merry Christmas into. ;)

They do have a thing for tentacles...:p
Liuzzo
27-11-2007, 03:39
I don't really care what anyone wishes me to be truthful. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays F you, Eat my *ss, it just doesn't matter. I try not to let others affect the way I feel or the way I treat them. I have been respectful to people who have expressed hatred towards me. Just live your life and try to be happy. If not then "F you!" There, I feel all warm and fuzzy now.
Katganistan
27-11-2007, 03:57
I hate all holidays, they serve only to disrupt routine and seriously fuck up schedules. If you weak sods must have the damned things have the decency to put them on weekends so as not to fuck up everyone's week.

"You'll want all day to-morrow, I suppose?" said Scrooge.

"If quite convenient, sir."

"It's not convenient," said Scrooge, "and it's not fair. If I was to stop half-a-crown for it, you'd think yourself ill-used, I'll be bound?"

The clerk smiled faintly.

"And yet," said Scrooge, "you don't think me ill-used, when I pay a day's wages for no work."

The clerk observed that it was only once a year.

"A poor excuse for picking a man's pocket every twenty-fifth of December!" said Scrooge, buttoning his great-coat to the chin. "But I suppose you must have the whole day. Be here all the earlier next morning."

Bah, humbug! :D
Soviet Houston
27-11-2007, 07:30
As the holidays approach we start to realize the terrible problems of diversity that has been making December a free-for-all-esque generic month. While the Christians were the first to celebrate in America, terrorist entry points such as Ellis Island have given the minority the chance to walk all over us and dramatically change our culture to "Holiday trees" and "Happy Holidays" which could be seen as insulting.

When such vile religious extremists try to pull a PR stunt such as Hanukkah, and using gelt to tear our children away from proper Christian (American) values, it really hurts me.

Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?

In Soviet America, Christmas celebrates YOU!
KneelBeforeZod
27-11-2007, 07:34
It is NOT "Christmas" OR any of these "holidays" you speak of; the correct name is "Zodmas"!

Merry Zodmas!

Now KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!
Sonnveld
27-11-2007, 12:11
Only the gauche would respond negatively to sincere good wishes, whatever form they take.

I'm Pagan but I still wish my mother and brother a Merry Christmas because I know it means something to them. I respect that even if I don't share it because they respect my spirituality even as they don't share it.
Big Jim P
29-11-2007, 15:31
Sure you can. I will wish you a Happy solstice in return. Then we have both offered good wishes to the other and should both walk away happy. Only an IDIOT takes offense when another wishes them to be happy.
Dakini
29-11-2007, 16:09
I'd prefer "happy winter solstice" but since I'll be wishing lots of christmas wishers that, I suppose it will balance out. ;)
Big Jim P
29-11-2007, 16:36
solstice is my birthday! "happy Smunkee's birthday" should totally replace all holiday greetings, it is really the greatest day of the year!

I've been trying for YEARS to get my birthday recognized as THE international holiday to no avail. Maybe you'll have better luck. Hell, I'd vote for it.
Smunkeeville
29-11-2007, 16:36
Sure you can. I will wish you a Happy solstice in return. Then we have both offered good wishes to the other and should both walk away happy. Only an IDIOT takes offense when another wishes them to be happy.
solstice is my birthday! "happy Smunkee's birthday" should totally replace all holiday greetings, it is really the greatest day of the year!
Smunkeeville
29-11-2007, 16:52
I've been trying for YEARS to get my birthday recognized as THE international holiday to no avail. Maybe you'll have better luck. Hell, I'd vote for it.

*starts internet petition*
Big Jim P
29-11-2007, 16:53
*starts internet petition*

*is the very first person to sign*
:D
Hamilay
29-11-2007, 16:56
I think we should just declare everyone's birthday a public holiday. *nods*
Ifreann
29-11-2007, 16:56
*is the very first person to sign*
:D

*signs second*
Hamilay
29-11-2007, 17:03
that's a stupid idea. holidays are a time of celebration! I am something to be celebrated! most people........are things to be ignored if not scorned.

Happy Smunkee day!

Bah. Holidays are a time of eating food and doing no work, hence my suggestion.

When is Smunkee day anyway?
Smunkeeville
29-11-2007, 17:04
I think we should just declare everyone's birthday a public holiday. *nods*

that's a stupid idea. holidays are a time of celebration! I am something to be celebrated! most people........are things to be ignored if not scorned.

Happy Smunkee day!
Ifreann
29-11-2007, 17:05
Bah. Holidays are a time of eating food and doing no work, hence my suggestion.

When is Smunkee day anyway?

Every day is Smunkee Day!
Big Jim P
29-11-2007, 17:09
that's a stupid idea. holidays are a time of celebration! I am something to be celebrated! most people........are things to be ignored if not scorned.

Happy Smunkee day!

Are you absolutely sure we are not related? You sound like my long lost twin there for a second.:p
CanuckHeaven
29-11-2007, 17:10
Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?
Surely.....Merry Christmas Ruffy!!

http://teacherweb.com/OK/CowetaCentralElementary/FirstGradeTeam/6.gif
Intangelon
30-11-2007, 02:29
It is a diluted form...
x=chi=technically Christ
Which is far from just saying Christ. Not to mention the uneducated folk like myself do not see X as Christ, so it hardly matters what some greek scholars made up.

Made up? You mean their language? Scholars didn't make up chi (pronounced as though you're saying "he" but the H is hissed like a cat), it was the letter X in their language. Xpistos is Christ's name in Greek, not some abstract invention, so it does matter, and it matters quite a lot. I use Xmas when I type or write to save time, but the difference comes in how you say it. I say "Christmas" when I see "Xmas". Saying "eks-muss" is what might get some folks upset. If I'm trying to skirt the bounds of deliberate offense, I might occasionally say "chi-mas" as an abbreviation and see if anyone bites. Nobody does, usually, but I have the defense ready if they do.

As a Christian, I find your wishing me a Merry Christmas insulting.

And yes, I am serious about that.

You, sir, are deliberately supercilious and are paying mere lip service to realistic faith. No human is perfect, as we've all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Life, then, shouldn't be a slavish attempt to come as close as we can to Godliness, but a celebration of being alive and thanking God for the privilege as often as we can while realizing that we are flawed creatures. The term I've heard used is "living a Christ-like life" -- and even a casual reader of only the Gospels can see that Christ attended parties and partook in celebrations.

In short, unclench. You're no holier than anyone else for your faux asceticism.

1) Why not care for the poor year long? Why not appreciate and spend time with family year long? Why do it only during the holidays?

I know why. Because its fashionable. We've grown accustomed to it.

2) Sure, its a holy even. But I think that His teachings are far more important than His birth. His teaching, if followed, could change the whole world for the best. What does celebrating His birth do? Not much. I choose to live a life modeled after His life.

1) Because many of us are living lives that don't allow easy access to constant generosity. Many try, but life has a way of blinding you to what is truly important. That's why Christmas is important to so many people -- it is a living reminder, even to those who aren't Christian, that giving is important. Of COURSE capitalism capitalized on that! But capitalism allows you to live how you do, so it's really a double-edged sword, isn't it?

You've obviously got a computer (or regular unfettered access to one), so the whole ascetic lifestyle isn't really working all that well for you, is it? Who could you have helped with the money it took to buy your computer (or whatever it costs you to access NS in time, travel and effort)? There -- do you see how easy it is to begin comparing yourself to others in the race to be holiest? That's how a Pharisee behaves, pal.

I hate all holidays, they serve only to disrupt routine and seriously fuck up schedules. If you weak sods must have the damned things have the decency to put them on weekends so as not to fuck up everyone's week.

There's no logic in working two or three times as hard just so you can have an extra day off. I work in the trucking business, holidays fuck everything up. Christmas is going to be a bitch landing on a Tuesday. Going to ball trucks up everywhere.

Uh...not to be flip, but can you not see every Christmas coming for, well, as many years as they make calendars. Sorry, but no sympathy. We've all got our jobs, and we can all use calendars.

Sure you can. I will wish you a Happy solstice in return. Then we have both offered good wishes to the other and should both walk away happy. Only an IDIOT takes offense when another wishes them to be happy.

Absolutely! Amen.
RomeW
30-11-2007, 06:50
I think we should just declare everyone's birthday a public holiday. *nods*

Agreed- then everyday is a holiday! :D
Heikoku
02-12-2007, 23:47
*Sings*

Frosty the Hitman was adept at being cruel
For he knew just when he should blow his top
And when he should keep his cool
Frosty the hitman was a spooky dude, they say
With his hair greased slick
And an odor thick
You would hate to be his prey.
Celtlund II
03-12-2007, 00:15
Can I wish you a Merry Christmas, or are you one of them?

Thank you Ruffie and a Happy Chanukah and a Merry Christmas to you and all of NSG.
Callisdrun
03-12-2007, 00:16
I hate Christmas, like all holidays.

Geez, you're sure fun.

I'm always amazed when people choose to be miserable.

Anyway, to the rest of you, you can wish me a merry christmas all you like, or wish me a happy whatever you celebrate, and I'll respond "you too!"

The way we celebrate Christmas really owes more to various pagan traditions than to Christianity anyway.
IL Ruffino
03-12-2007, 00:19
Every day is Smunkee Day!

I didn't sign that petition!
Sinnland
03-12-2007, 23:32
I'm a militant atheist and I say Merry Christmas and get pissed when people try to push their PC Happy Holidays bullshit down my throat. Though I do get equally pissed when people push the Jesus' birthday bullshit down my throat too. Can we leave it at a European cultural tradition?