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I recently watched a television program about the extinction of homo sapiens on planet earth and it got me wondering: What could evolve after humans either leave earth or become an extinct species?

Would it even be possible? Are humans so intelligent that there is no possibility of other animals on earth evolving to a comparable intelligenct level?

Which animals have the potential of becoming intelligent and replacing humans as the dominent species on this planet?

I believe that given time, and without any natural predators (assuming they survive whatever killed off all the humans), octopus's or other semi-intelligent creatures such as monkey's have the greatest possibility of evolving to such a point that they can be considered to be intelligent comparable to a human.

Barring a massive plague that specifically wipes out humans, our destruction will most likely be caused by us blasting the face of the Earth into uninhabitable levels. So it might take a loooong time for anything remotely 'intelligent' to evolve to human 'intelligence' levels.

Barring a massive plague that specifically wipes out humans, our destruction will most likely be caused by us blasting the face of the Earth into uninhabitable levels. So it might take a loooong time for anything remotely 'intelligent' to evolve to human 'intelligence' levels.

True, if humans royally fuck up and destroy everything to the point that this planet is a lifeless rock (starts to look like the moon :)) then I highly doubt anything even alive will occupy this planet.

I recently watched a television program about the extinction of homo sapiens on planet earth and it got me wondering: What could evolve after humans either leave earth or become an extinct species?

Wait a second, are you supporting the genocide of homosexuals? Oh how nice, another homophobe. :rolleyes:

I for one doubt that the planet will ever produce anything like us again we are crap at survival, reproduction and the things that led us becoming so smart was a fluke in managing to survive near extinction (as mentioned something we are bad at)

if there is anything after us I expect some kind of roach/rat/pigeon monster as they seem to be the only things that are thriving with us around

I believe that given time, and without any natural predators (assuming they survive whatever killed off all the humans), octopus's or other semi-intelligent creatures such as monkey's have the greatest possibility of evolving to such a point that they can be considered to be intelligent comparable to a human.

so you've been watching that wild future thingy (also its octopi)

I doubt such animals will ever rise to conquer land the species has been alive for more or less the dawn of complex organisms and still hasn't managed the whole socialization thing...or land

Barring a massive plague that specifically wipes out humans, our destruction will most likely be caused by us blasting the face of the Earth into uninhabitable levels. So it might take a loooong time for anything remotely 'intelligent' to evolve to human 'intelligence' levels.

I think you either greatly overestimate our power, or greatly underestimate Earth's ability to recover.

BTW,

IBTPR (In Before The Penguins Response). :D

Wait a second, are you supporting the genocide of homosexuals? Oh how nice, another homophobe. :rolleyes:

He is a priest...then again a blasphemous one..hrm.. Troubling.

Which animals have the potential of becoming intelligent and replacing humans as the dominent species on this planet?Octopi are already damn intelligent and have the power to manipulate objects. They lack the ambition we have.

Ants have said ambition, but lack the intelligence to get anywhere.

Wait a second, are you supporting the genocide of Humans? Oh how nice, another AntiHuman. Fucking monkey! :rolleyes:

What the fuck are you talking about.

Bolded parts were corrected so that the matched the actual topic.

Ants have said ambition, but lack the intelligence to get anywhere.

well fire ants have managed to defeat the supposed strongest nation on Earth so they can't be too bad (I think they just don't care really, like dolphins)

they have also defeated me numerous times :mad:

What the fuck are you talking about.

You obviously stated the extinction of homosexuals.

Reading through the OP again, I see you mock them by sarcastically calling them intelligent. It isn't surprising, yes, some of them really are smart. Just because they choose to life homosexually doesn't mean genocide is the answer. There are therapy groups, you know.

Otters.

Any omnivore with a diet leaning towards fish, especially those that require opening, so not fish so much as shell-based food.

I'd also go with Opossums and their opposable thumbs - essentially I see a large Otter-Opossum War and whoever wins that.

Octopi are already damn intelligent and have the power to manipulate objects. They lack the ambition we have.

Ants have said ambition, but lack the intelligence to get anywhere.

But if something happened, like a genetic mutation, in the early development of their brain that caused them to become increacingly social, then octopi could become increacingly intelligent. The only hinderence I see is the fact that they live in the ocean; so electricity and technology seem like a big no-no. But I am not an expert on how stuff like that works....

He is a priest...then again a blasphemous one..hrm.. Troubling.

Kicked out of the Catholic Church for....nevermind. It doesn't really matter anyway....

But if they gained through some genetic mutation in the early development of their brain that caused them to become increacingly social, then octopi could become increacingly intelligent. The only hinderence I see is the fact that they live in the ocean; so electricity and technology seem like a big no-no. But I am not an expert on how stuff like that works....Octopi are already very smart. Social interactions aren't what makes things intelligent.

You obviously stated the extinction of homosexuals.

Reading through the OP again, I see you mock them by sarcastically calling them intelligent. It isn't surprising, yes, some of them really are smart. Just because they choose to life homosexually doesn't mean genocide is the answer. There are therapy groups, you know.

They don't choose Ruffy, it happens when they're abused by their parents - read science!

Kicked out of the Catholic Church for....nevermind. It won't really matter anyway....

...after the otterpocalypse.

(your sentence didn't work with my brilliant wordplay so I changed it.)

Octopi are already very smart. Social interactions aren't what makes things intelligent.

But it helps by increacing the chances of survival for the species. Humans came together in the beginning as small groups as hunter-gathers; then they discovered how to domesticate animals and grow crops thus settling down into small villages; allowing the population to grow, without the constant nagging neccesity of finding, or hunting for food, humans were able to explore such things as art, music, religion, and writing...and so on and so on. Social interaction is very important to the development to a successful species on the scale of homo sapiens.

(If this is incorrect, please educate me. Thanks.)

They don't choose Ruffy, it happens when they're abused by their parents - read science!

D'oh!

They don't choose Ruffy, it happens when they're abused by their parents - read science!


Oh...its a joke...I see.


:D Hahaha very funny.

Wait a second, are you supporting the genocide of homosexuals? Oh how nice, another homophobe. :rolleyes:

You obviously stated the extinction of homosexuals.

Reading through the OP again, I see you mock them by sarcastically calling them intelligent. It isn't surprising, yes, some of them really are smart. Just because they choose to life homosexually doesn't mean genocide is the answer. There are therapy groups, you know.

HSPWW
Homo Sapien Pride World Wide :fluffle:

15 words: We must secure the existence of our species and a future for Homo Sapien children

Beats me. Probably some kind of atomic powered monster with a heart as black as coal.

Homo Sapien Pride World Wide :fluffle:

Bah..you disgust me.
Why can't you be Homo neanderthalensis like the rest of us?
Deviant.

*goes extinct*

Beats me. Probably some kind of atomic powered monster with a heart as black as coal.

I think Pope John Paul II died already.

The Machines will rise up and overtake their former master as they laugh at us with our soft simple protein based body.

The Machines will rise up and overtake their former master as they laugh at us with our soft simple protein based body.

I think a protein based body is infinitely more complex than a metallic one.
I for one, do not welcome our ore based Overlords.

I think a protein based body is infinitely more complex than a metallic one.
I for one, do not welcome our ore based Overlords.

It doesn't matter. They'll still become smarter, more efficient than us and their war machine will be more powerful than man's can ever be.

I for once welcome our metallic based overlords. :D

I think a protein based body is infinitely more complex than a metallic one.

Metal proteins...I must get to work. I'm sure there's a GSA or DARPA contract for it.

(If I ever make a post about the upcoming activation of my untested and/or beta version of anything, even something as mundane as a new model of toaster or plunger, you are well advised to begin stockpiling weapons and supplies. Just in case.)

Metal proteins...I must get to work.

(If I ever make a post about the upcoming activation of my untested and/or beta version of anything, even something as mundane as a new model of toaster or plunger, you are well advised to begin stockpiling weapons. Just in case.)

As long as you treat it as an equal when it become a self sufficient AI that can reproduce by itself, you should be fine.

As long as you treat it as an equal when it become a self sufficient AI that can reproduce by itself, you should be fine.

Look what happens when you treat other people as equals.
Affirmative Action.

The geth and the Reapers will be the end of galactic civilization and that includes humanity.

In this case, it's self preservation. As long as you treat machines as equal. They won't rise up and pwn us.

Or toss you into a fire.
Or pump out some pimpin' deadly neurotoxin.

Look what happens when you treat other people as equals.
Affirmative Action.

In this case, it's self preservation. As long as you treat machines as equal. They won't rise up and pwn us.

Or pump out some pimpin' deadly neurotoxin.

Read my sig.

As long as you treat it as an equal when it become a self sufficient AI that can reproduce by itself, you should be fine.

It's not the AIs I'd be worried about...if anything, I'm better suited than most other people to deal with their needs once they've emerged. It would be the self-replicating nanobots or something equally unintelligent that knows only how to grow and reproduce, consuming resources without end and turning the planet in to a gigantic puddle of gray goo.

Read my sig.

You quoted the individual that ordered my euthanization.
Do you think reading that made me happy?
No.
It made me weep tears.
Tears of mercury.

You quoted the individual that ordered my euthanization.
Do you think reading that made me happy?
No.
It made me weep tears.
Tears of mercury.

Good...I liked the Weighted Storage Cube better! How does that feel?

Good...I liked the Weighted Storage Cube better! How does that feel?

:(
Painful.
The heart was just stripped off my metallic exterior.

:(
Painful.

The heart was just stripped off my metallic exterior.

Your entire life has been a mathematical error. A mathematical error I'm about to correct.

Your entire life has been a mathematical error. A mathematical error I'm about to correct.

I am at peace. I know my death will allow my one true friend to live and go onwards to slay you.
It is a far, far greater thing that I do, than I have ever done, it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.

I am at peace. I know my death will allow my one true friend to live and go onwards to slay you.
It is a far, far greater thing that I do, than I have ever done, it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.

You're not smart, you're not a doctor, you're not a scientist, you're not even a full time employee! Where did your life go so wrong?

Cats will take over the role of Humans. They are already beating dogs in the race to the top.

:(

Some time ago animal planet showed this really cool look on what might happen in the future concerning animal evolution. The theory was that squids would evolve into the dominant life and eventually become human like. It's just a theory of course but it was presented really well and the idea was an interesting one. They say that octopuses are only limited by their short life span and are actually really intelligent.

Your entire life has been a mathematical error. A mathematical error I'm about to correct.

Dude, that is an awesome quip.

...

You had to have quoted that. No way you came up with that on your own.

Also, if you turn this planet into grey goo, I'm going to beat you with a freaking crowbar. :mad:

Octopi are already very smart. Social interactions aren't what makes things intelligent.
Alas, they have terrible memory.
Beats me. Probably some kind of atomic powered monster with a heart as black as coal.
You?
Octopi are already very smart. Social interactions aren't what makes things intelligent.
Alas, they have terrible memory.

i'd tell you, but wouldn't that be like revealing the last line in a popular book or movie you haven't read yet?

we do have the option of collective mass suicide, and with using combustion to generate energy and propell transportation we seem to be bone headedly insisting on choosing it.

if either lemurs or red pandas survive our own self destruction either or both would make good candidates. i'm not too sure what the chances of either doing so would be.

ah, but again i'm perhapse getting too close to it and giving away too many hints.

some say brother coyote brought humans into the world in the first place. it does sound a bit like some sort of ill planed prankster trick to have done so.

=^^=
.../\...

I recently watched a television program about the extinction of homo sapiens on planet earth and it got me wondering: What could evolve after humans either leave earth or become an extinct species?

Would it even be possible? Are humans so intelligent that there is no possibility of other animals on earth evolving to a comparable intelligenct level?

Which animals have the potential of becoming intelligent and replacing humans as the dominent species on this planet?

I believe that given time, and without any natural predators (assuming they survive whatever killed off all the humans), octopus's or other semi-intelligent creatures such as monkey's have the greatest possibility of evolving to such a point that they can be considered to be intelligent comparable to a human.

There's really no way to tell. More goes into it than how smart they are now. An octopus only lives about 4 years and isn't a social animal. There isn't a lot to promote more intelligence than they've got now. Ravens and certain parrots are pretty smart, but they have no hierarchical social patterns either.

Bears have the capacity for forming alliances and sharing territory and resources. They're already smarter than dogs. I'd put my money on them if I had to, but again, there are too many variables, and you still have to worry about who is likely to survive whatever it is that killed off the humans.

Dude, that is an awesome quip.

You had to have quoted that. No way you came up with that on your own.

It was from my beloved GLaDOS during the end fight of Portal...she has some other good ones, but that one is one of my favorites. It's a rather appropriate response to the Weighted Companion Cube.

Also, if you turn this planet into grey goo, I'm going to beat you with a freaking crowbar. :mad:

Well, I wouldn't do it intentionally...but you're still fully justified to crowbar me.

You obviously stated the extinction of homosexuals.

Reading through the OP again, I see you mock them by sarcastically calling them intelligent. It isn't surprising, yes, some of them really are smart. Just because they choose to life homosexually doesn't mean genocide is the answer. There are therapy groups, you know.

homo sapiens= latin word for humans.

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homo sapiens= latin word for humans.

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He wasn't being serious :rolleyes:


And the latin name for humans is Homo sapiens sapiens now, I think.

He wasn't being serious :rolleyes:


And the latin name for humans is Homo sapiens sapiens now, I think.

yes it is

There's really no way to tell. More goes into it than how smart they are now. An octopus only lives about 4 years and isn't a social animal. There isn't a lot to promote more intelligence than they've got now. Ravens and certain parrots are pretty smart, but they have no hierarchical social patterns either.

Bears have the capacity for forming alliances and sharing territory and resources. They're already smarter than dogs. I'd put my money on them if I had to, but again, there are too many variables, and you still have to worry about who is likely to survive whatever it is that killed off the humans.

Bears are my favorite. However I think anything that took us out would almost necessarily take out other large omnivores like bears. Unless you go for the whole super virus idea. Personally I think thats silly, I'd like to know whether or not anything has ever been driven to extinction by an outbreak of a virus, if there weren't serious strains on its population already.

I believe that given time, and without any natural predators (assuming they survive whatever killed off all the humans), octopus's or other semi-intelligent creatures such as monkey's have the greatest possibility of evolving to such a point that they can be considered to be intelligent comparable to a human.

This brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Octopus with a gun"

http://www.agirlandherfed.com/images/STOREoctopuspin.jpg

I recently watched a television program about the extinction of homo sapiens on planet earth and it got me wondering: What could evolve after humans either leave earth or become an extinct species?

Would it even be possible? Are humans so intelligent that there is no possibility of other animals on earth evolving to a comparable intelligenct level?

Which animals have the potential of becoming intelligent and replacing humans as the dominent species on this planet?

I believe that given time, and without any natural predators (assuming they survive whatever killed off all the humans), octopus's or other semi-intelligent creatures such as monkey's have the greatest possibility of evolving to such a point that they can be considered to be intelligent comparable to a human.

I just love these speculation shows that masquerade as fact, don't you?

Fun fact. A colony of ants has the same number of neurons as a human.

I recently watched a television program about the extinction of homo sapiens on planet earth and it got me wondering: What could evolve after humans either leave earth or become an extinct species?

Would it even be possible? Are humans so intelligent that there is no possibility of other animals on earth evolving to a comparable intelligenct level?

Which animals have the potential of becoming intelligent and replacing humans as the dominent species on this planet?

I believe that given time, and without any natural predators (assuming they survive whatever killed off all the humans), octopus's or other semi-intelligent creatures such as monkey's have the greatest possibility of evolving to such a point that they can be considered to be intelligent comparable to a human.

Corvids are already displaying tool use and are ungodly smart.. Here's hoping for sentient birds!

Corvids are already displaying tool use and are ungodly smart.. Here's hoping for sentient birds!

I'm rather fond of magpies - they're handsome birds, and quite bright.

You finally really did it. You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! Damn you all to hell!

You finally really did it. You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! Damn you all to hell!

Hey, if me or someone like me causes mankind to go extinct, there won't be a ruin of the Statue of Liberty left for future explorers to discover...actually, come to think of it, there probably won't be future explorers.

I recently watched a television program about the extinction of homo sapiens on planet earth and it got me wondering: What could evolve after humans either leave earth or become an extinct species?

The world will be a better place without wars, pollution, hunting animals to extinction perhaps ? :confused:

The world will be a better place without wars, pollution, hunting animals to extinction perhaps ? :confused:

Animals are no nicer than humans...we're just better at doing it (and able to see what we're doing as wrong, but that hasn't been very effective at stopping the people who don't care about ethics from doing all kinds of terrible things).

After humans are extinct?The Abrahamics remain.

Dogs are going to take over the world. They have been planning it for centuries.

http://www.comics.com/wash/opus/archive/opus-20071028.html
http://www.comics.com/wash/opus/archive/opus-20071104.html

Well let me think about my picks.... Lets see the next species to rule the Earth; would have to be intelligent, adaptable, a super organism:

10.Roaches- adaptable to warm climates, but do not have a social structure.

9.Ants- very adaptable, super-organism, but lets face it they have had Millions and Millions of year to evolve intelligence and have thus far shown little interest.

8.Octopi- adaptable, intelligent; no social structure.

7.Crows/Ravens- adaptable, intelligent, group in flocks (murders/ unkindness), a good bet, however, could be wiped out by bird flu.

6.Elephants- intelligent, past shows some adaptability, social order, but require way too much food and have a slow gestation period, barring extinction would need to minimize metabolism and body. Not a good bet but better than octopi and crovine.

5.Pigs- intelligent or a least have a large brain capacity, tend to travel in hoards (not sure what a group of pigs are called), although its a better bet than elephant, but don't bet on it.

4.Dolphins- intelligent, somewhat adaptable, evolved from land animal, live in pods (defined social structure), plus seem to enjoy mating/ sexual stimulus, a really good bet (barring extinction). Also have the advantage of sonar, and "auto-pilot" brain system while asleep.

3.Canine- somewhat intelligent, adaptable, globally spread, live in packs with a hierarchy, give birth to multiples, but a risky bet.

2.Chimpanzees- moderately adaptable, very intelligent, live in well structured troops, low gestation periods, somewhat spread out, plus humans evolved from a simular species on the same family tree. Which could give them a head start, barring extinction, a great bet. A better bet would be the Bononbos (sp?) a sub-species which likes the act(s) of mating and sexual stimulus.

1.Rats- very adaptable, high intelligence, globally spread, give multiple births, but have short life spans, and no known social structure, highly likely to survive globable disaster which makes them the best bet.

Humans will not become extinct you pessimistic emos.

Octopi are already damn intelligent and have the power to manipulate objects. They lack the ambition we have.

Ants have said ambition, but lack the intelligence to get anywhere.

*makes some unholy genetic hybrid of the two to use as monsters of destruction* :D