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## Judge No Longer Trusts US Gov "Evidence" in Terror Cases.

OceanDrive2
26-11-2007, 00:41
Sources: Yahoo/AP/OccNEWS
Judge No Longer Trusts US Gov Agencies "Evidence".

Tue Nov 20, 6:55 PM ET
McLEAN, Va. - A federal judge expressed frustration Tuesday that the government provided incorrect information about evidence in the prosecution of Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui and raised the possibility of ordering a new trial in another high-profile terrorism case.

At a post-trial hearing Tuesday for Ali al-Timimi, a Muslim cleric from Virginia sentenced to life in prison in 2004 for soliciting treason, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said she can no longer trust the CIA and other government agencies on how they represent classified evidence in terror cases.
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The prosecutors have asked her to dismiss the defense request. The government has denied the allegations but has done so in secret pleadings to the judge that defense lawyers are not allowed to see. Even the lead prosecutors in the al-Timimi case have not had access to the information; they have relied on the representations of other government lawyers.
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Brinkema said she no longer feels confident relying on the government briefs, particularly since prosecutors admitted last week that similar representations made in the Moussaoui case were false.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071120/ap_on_re_us/terror_paintball

see?? ... I told ya we cant trust everything they say.. told ya 5 years ago.

I love the title of the Yahoo Link: "Terror Paintball"
Lunatic Goofballs
26-11-2007, 00:45
Sources: Yahoo/AP/OccNEWS
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071120/ap_on_re_us/terror_paintball

see?? ... I told ya we cant trust everything they say.. told ya 5 years ago.

I love the title of the Yahoo Link: "Terror Paintball"

People have been saying it a lot longer than you have. Government oversight on all levels for all branches exist for a reason. Allowing the Executive(or any branch, honestly) to work without overisght is asking for abuse of power. *nod*
Yootopia
26-11-2007, 00:49
People have been saying it a lot longer than you have. Government oversight on all levels for all branches exist for a reason. Allowing the Executive(or any branch, honestly) to work without overisght is asking for abuse of power. *nod*
Goddammit, why the wise counsel instead of pie-based humour? :(
Lunatic Goofballs
26-11-2007, 00:54
Goddammit, why the wise counsel instead of pie-based humour? :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwirWWnzJKM

:)
Non Aligned States
26-11-2007, 01:20
People have been saying it a lot longer than you have. Government oversight on all levels for all branches exist for a reason. Allowing the Executive(or any branch, honestly) to work without overisght is asking for abuse of power. *nod*

The problem is that more often than not, the oversight gets subverted sooner or later, and the whole shebang falls on its face.

Now if the oversight were a random and chaotic entity impervious to subversion by its chaotic nature... say, a pie flinging clown skilled at human ladder ties...
OceanDrive2
26-11-2007, 01:30
Now if the oversight were a random and chaotic entity impervious to subversion by its chaotic nature... say, a pie flinging clown skilled at human ladder ties...Yeah.. I vote for LG to be our allmighty overmind.. I mean ultimate oversight.. or whatever you want to call it.

:D
Lunatic Goofballs
26-11-2007, 01:42
The problem is that more often than not, the oversight gets subverted sooner or later, and the whole shebang falls on its face.

Now if the oversight were a random and chaotic entity impervious to subversion by its chaotic nature... say, a pie flinging clown skilled at human ladder ties...

But where will we find such a handsome devil?

<.<

>.>

:D
Sel Appa
26-11-2007, 01:49
Surprise? Surprise?
OceanDrive2
26-11-2007, 01:50
But where will we find such a handsome devil?

<.<

>.>

:Dhttp://www.refrigerationandaircon.co.za/images/LG_life_is_good.jpg
let me know when your ego is about to explode.. so I can take 3 steps back.
:D
Non Aligned States
26-11-2007, 02:39
http://www.refrigerationandaircon.co.za/images/LG_life_is_good.jpg
:D

*buys over LG*

Hah! I have LG in my pocket now. :p

Think about it. A pie flinging oversight who follows no rule but to maximize chaos against abuse of power.
Heikoku
26-11-2007, 06:07
Is "unsurprised" a color? Because if it is, I want you to paint it all over me.
Wilgrove
26-11-2007, 06:09
Is "unsurprised" a color? Because if it is, I want you to paint it all over me.

*paints you in a dull gray color*
Lunatic Goofballs
26-11-2007, 09:04
http://www.refrigerationandaircon.co.za/images/LG_life_is_good.jpg
let me know when your ego is about to explode.. so I can take 3 steps back.
:D

What fun would that be?!?

I like the symbol. Round and almost smilie looking. Pity it's taken. :p
OceanDrive2
27-11-2007, 02:21
What fun would that be?!? :pyou are right of course :D