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Should we allow racist postings or not?

Trollgaard
13-11-2007, 18:05
Yes. Free speech and all that.

Edit: my thread now! ahaha!
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 18:05
Should we allow racist postings or not?

Can you say that one race is superior as another?
Can you say stupid thing like ‘heterosexuals’ are saner as homosexual?
Or Democrats suffer less from mental diseases as Republicans?

Expressing racism is in most European countries unlawful.

You can state ‘some say that blacks are better as whites’

But you can’t state ‘I say that blacks are better as whites’

But what do you think?

Are we not racist by ourselves when we allow racism?
Steely Glintt
13-11-2007, 18:08
Jolt is hosted in the UK and I assure you that expressing racist views is't illegal here. See the failed prosecutions against Nick Griffiths.

As to whether we should allow racist views to be expressed on this private forum. I believe that we should as this is the best way to expose racists to different and occasionally well argued view points. How else do you suggest we change their views other then by debate?
Infinite Revolution
13-11-2007, 18:09
give it a rest, eh?
Khadgar
13-11-2007, 18:11
Weren't you the one who was lobbying for a free speech forum?
Lunatic Goofballs
13-11-2007, 18:16
What are you, some kind of filthy Zoroastrian?!?

Zoroastrian was the most esoteric religion I could come up with on such short notice. I mean no offense to any Zoroastrians who may or may not read this.
Fassitude
13-11-2007, 18:22
"We"? This is not "our" forum. "We" don't have jack shit to allow or disallow here. The owners of the forum do. So, get the fuck over it.
Sane Outcasts
13-11-2007, 18:22
Racism is deplorable, but you won't do a thing to combat it simply by prohibiting a racist from saying he's racist. Debating his views and exposing their flaws are much more preferable to leaving it at "You can't say that here!".
Bottle
13-11-2007, 18:23
When "we" own this forum, "we" will have the right to decide the rules. As it stands, this is Max's house, and you can play by Max's rules or you can leave.

Personally, I'd allow racist posts anyhow, provided they aren't merely trolling or flame.
Upper Botswavia
13-11-2007, 18:24
"I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write." Voltaire
Rhak
13-11-2007, 18:27
No, no and a thousand times no.
You've already asked for a "free speech forum." To be honest it's starting to make you look like a racist yourself..
Upper Botswavia
13-11-2007, 18:29
Are we not racist by ourselves when we allow racism?

No. We are not. And we do not allow the ACT of racism. We allow the belief, just as we allow any other belief. When that belief is acted upon and infringes on the rights of others, we do not allow it.

We are not racists. In fact, by allowing racists their beliefs, however wrong we think those beliefs are, we are also not bigots.

It is a conundrum, to be sure, and seems almost a paradox... but good must allow the idea of evil to exist, lest it become evil by its own actions.
Bottle
13-11-2007, 18:30
Are we not racist by ourselves when we allow racism?
Are we not championship footballers when we allow championship football to be played?

I WISH!
Neo Art
13-11-2007, 18:35
we? Who the fuck is this "we"? Last I checked, neither you nor I nor anyone else in this thread has a particular say about what is and is not allowed.
JuNii
13-11-2007, 18:37
Can you say that one race is superior as another? here? yep. but then you WILL have to back that claim with studies and facts if you want it taken seriously.
Can you say stupid thing like ‘heterosexuals’ are saner as homosexual? Yep. but here, you will have to back that claim up with studies and facts if you want it taken seriously.
Or Democrats suffer less from mental diseases as Republicans?... you're new here... arn't you...

Expressing racism is in most European countries unlawful. Good thing I'm not in a European Country.

You can state ‘some say that blacks are better as whites’

But you can’t state ‘I say that blacks are better as whites’ which is an opinion or baised off of personal experience. if you want to push it as fact, then you will have to present evidence.

Are we not racist by ourselves when we allow racism? are you trying to control what others think and say on a forum that is 1) not yours to control 2) being posted by individuals that are not legally obligated to obey your ideals or feelings?



What are you, some kind of filthy Zoroastrian?!?

Zoroastrian was the most esoteric religion I could come up with on such short notice. I mean no offense to any Zoroastrians who may or may not read this.

I'm sure any Zoroastrian would understand that you were not trying to insult them.
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 19:29
Should we allow racist postings or not?
That's up to the owners of the board.


Expressing racism is in most European countries unlawful.
No, it's not.

Despite evidence to the contrary, you keep claiming this. Back it up, or shut up about it.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 19:37
That's up to the owners of the board.


No, it's not.

Despite evidence to the contrary, you keep claiming this. Back it up, or shut up about it.

We'll see soon. :)

And now, can you go bark somewhere else. This is my thread.
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 19:39
We'll see soon. :)

And now, can you go bark somewhere else. This is my thread.

So you can't back it up? You're just playing the same tune over and over and over without any evidence? You're just making shit up? Seems like it.

And no. I'll bark here. http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/images/dogbarking.jpg

After all, there is no thread ownership on NSG.

http://buywellness.com/images/ashoka%20bark%20(L).jpg
Greater Trostia
13-11-2007, 19:41
Racism can be trolling, flamebaiting and flaming. In that context racism isn't allowed any more than any other vehicle for breaking those rules is. Like for example spam.
Rebellious Intentions
13-11-2007, 19:42
Of course the posts should be allowed.

If racial diversity is supposedly okay then racial discussions should also be okay.
Deus Malum
13-11-2007, 19:42
"We"? This is not "our" forum. "We" don't have jack shit to allow or disallow here. The owners of the forum do. So, get the fuck over it.

^---This.
Nova Magna Germania
13-11-2007, 19:46
Should we allow racist postings or not?

Can you say that one race is superior as another?
Can you say stupid thing like ‘heterosexuals’ are saner as homosexual?
Or Democrats suffer less from mental diseases as Republicans?

Expressing racism is in most European countries unlawful.

You can state ‘some say that blacks are better as whites’

But you can’t state ‘I say that blacks are better as whites’

But what do you think?

Are we not racist by ourselves when we allow racism?

Yes, most European countries are primitive when it comes to free speech. So stick to a forum based on one of those countries if you want to celebrate your backwardness.
Neo Bretonnia
13-11-2007, 19:47
Are we not championship footballers when we allow championship football to be played?

I WISH!

You mean we're not....?:(

But anyways, I agree with the majority here, but possibly for a slightly different reason. As far as I'm concerned, racist speech should never be banned because I don't know who I'd trust to define it. Is it racist to point out that one ethnic group has a higher statistical incidence of heart disease than another? I'd say of course not, but I've seen people argue that it is. Everybody has a different threshold for what's racist speech and what isn't. The beauty of free speech in any environment is that we're not all bound by one person's point of view.
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 19:50
Yes, most European countries are primitive when it comes to free speech. So stick to a forum based on one of those countries if you want to celebrate your backwardness.

Care to prove it?

No?

Just blowing hot air, eh? Well that is in the spirit of the OP :)
Nova Magna Germania
13-11-2007, 19:51
Care to prove it?

No?

Just blowing hot air, eh? Well that is in the spirit of the OP :)

Prove what? That most European countries have restrictions on free speech? Or that those restrictions are primitive?
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 19:55
Yes, most European countries are primitive when it comes to free speech. So stick to a forum based on one of those countries if you want to celebrate your backwardness.

This forum is based in one of those primitive countries.

I assume that you're living in USA?

THAT country that invaded Iraq for nothing?
THAT country were zillions are wearing guns 'cause they are afraid of invisible criminals?
THAT country were the majority is as fat as one can be?
THAT country were a majority is believing that *everything* is created in 7 days some 6000 years ago?
THAT country that had not that long ago a real legal apartheid system?

Are we talking about the civilized US of A?

Wahahahaa
Nova Magna Germania
13-11-2007, 19:55
This forum is based in one of those primitive countries.

I assume that you're living in USA?

THAT country that invaded Iraq for nothing?
THAT country were zillions are wearing guns 'cause they are afraid of invisible criminals?
THAT country were the majority is as fat as one can be?
THAT country were a majority is believing that *everything* is created in 7 days some 6000 years ago?
THAT country that had not that long ago a real legal apartheid system?

Are we talking about the civilized US of A?

Wahahahaa

I said most European countries, not all European countries. But since you are unable to look at a poster's location but instead assume where they are from, I didnt expect you to distinguish the difference.
Nova Magna Germania
13-11-2007, 19:58
Canada?

Go kick some seal, civilized one. :)

Wahahaha

LOL. Was that the only thing you could have come up with? Ok, paedophile.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 19:59
I said most European countries, not all European countries. But since you are unable to look at a poster's location but instead assume where they are from, I didnt expect you to distinguish the difference.

Canada?

Go kick some seal, civilized one. :)

Wahahaha
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 20:01
Prove what? That most European countries have restrictions on free speech? Or that those restrictions are primitive?

That those restrictions are "primitive" will do nicely. I must admit, I thought you were saying the same thing as Edwinasia, but you weren't, so I apologize for coming across as crass.

But still, do prove that "most European countries are primitive when it comes to free speech", please :)
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 20:04
LOL. Was that the only thing you could have came up with? Ok, paedophile.

Oh no! You have no paedophiles in Canada?

How do you manage that one? Allow child porn?
Khadgar
13-11-2007, 20:05
Eddie's crusade for free speech ended awful fast didn't it? Now for those of you who don't read the moderation forum (and you should it's a load of fun!) Eddie is blackmailing the mods threatening lawsuits and reporting to government officials about our "racist" board.
Bottle
13-11-2007, 20:18
Eddie's crusade for free speech ended awful fast didn't it? Now for those of you who don't read the moderation forum (and you should it's a load of fun!) Eddie is blackmailing the mods threatening lawsuits and reporting to government officials about our "racist" board.
Heh, you were right, that thread was fun.

I like how Ed thinks that being removed from this forum is equivalent to being murdered or having somebody "kill his mind." Dude, I've been posting here for almost 5 years and I'm nowhere near that emotionally invested in this place.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 20:18
Eddie's crusade for free speech ended awful fast didn't it? Now for those of you who don't read the moderation forum (and you should it's a load of fun!) Eddie is blackmailing the mods threatening lawsuits and reporting to government officials about our "racist" board.

I know they are smelling now, those mods. ;)
Hydesland
13-11-2007, 20:21
Omfg will you give it a rest.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 20:22
Heh, you were right, that thread was fun.

I like how Ed thinks that being removed from this forum is equivalent to being murdered or having somebody "kill his mind." Dude, I've been posting here for almost 5 years and I'm nowhere near that emotionally invested in this place.



But but but my life would be over Bottle! And where will we have sex again?

And now bring some beer, bitch ;)
United Beleriand
13-11-2007, 20:23
Expressing racism is in most European countries unlawful.In which ones?
Tagmatium
13-11-2007, 20:24
But but but my life would be over Bottle! And where will we have sex again?

And now bring some beer, bitch ;)
Hmm, I think you're probably being to cross the line into flaming now, man.
Bottle
13-11-2007, 20:27
Hmm, I think you're probably being to cross the line into flaming now, man.
Nah, he's just clumsy and lacks a sense of humor. He's done this before.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 20:28
In which ones?

Belgium, Holland, UK, France, Germany, ...

Don't expect me to know all laws from every European country.

Racism is partly arranged by the EC as well. So all the member countries have to obey those laws at least...
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 20:30
Hmm, I think you're probably being to cross the line into flaming now, man.

I called her already 36633 times bitch. She knows that I think she is not a bitch.
Chumblywumbly
13-11-2007, 20:30
Don’t expect me to know all laws from every European country.
Well you obviously don’t.

Racism, in and of itself, isn’t illegal in the UK.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 20:30
Nah, he's just clumsy and lacks a sense of humor. He's done this before.

Voila :)
JuNii
13-11-2007, 20:30
Care to prove it?

No?

Just blowing hot air, eh? Well that is in the spirit of the OP :) yeah, with all the hot air, Eddies adding enough to global warming. :p

LOL. Was that the only thing you could have come up with? Ok, paedophile. ahem... you can add Racist and Censoring to that.

But but but my life would be over Bottle! And where will we have sex again?

And now bring some beer, bitch ;) so you're sexist as well...
United Beleriand
13-11-2007, 20:32
Belgium, Holland, UK, France, Germany, ...

Don't expect me to know all laws from every European country.

Racism is partly arranged by the EC as well. So all the member countries have to obey those laws at least...Show me the laws.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 20:32
yeah, with all the hot air, Eddies adding enough to global warming. :p

ahem... you can add Racist and Censoring to that.

so you're sexist as well...

Yeps. It's proven that the average female her brain is smaller as the average male brain.

Shoot me.
Tagmatium
13-11-2007, 20:33
I could run about pasting racist posters along my street (I wouldn't, I'm not racist), and at the most I'll get done for vandalising public (or private) property.
Chumblywumbly
13-11-2007, 20:34
Shoot me.
No.

Partly because that would be illegal, unlike, say, spouting racist or sexist thoughts.

I accept that the EE-UK bureaucracy is large, but I don’t think thoughtcrime is on the list yet.
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 20:47
Belgium, Holland, UK, France, Germany, ...

Don't expect me to know all laws from every European country.
I for one don't, but you're surprisingly inept at providing examples.

I mean, again you mention the UK. You have yet to show that. Apparently it's one of the countries that you don't know the laws of - so why do you keep mentioning it?

But go ahead. Provide one example apart from the special Nazi-legislation in Germany that proves that racism is illegal in ANY country in Europe. Go on.

You won't find one.

(And you can explain how these laws aren't contradictory with Article 9 and Article 10 of the European Convention of Human Rights while you're at it. Especially since ECHR is supposedly in line with the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (http://www.ohchr.org/english/law/pdf/cerd.pdf).

Well?


Racism is partly arranged by the EC as well. So all the member countries have to obey those laws at least...

"Arranged by the EC"? Huh? :confused:

And please provide the directives or regulations that the EU have issued, if that's what you're on about?
Damaske
13-11-2007, 20:52
Omfg will you give it a rest.

I doubt he will. He's like the little energizer bunny. He keeps going, and going, and going....
Steely Glintt
13-11-2007, 20:59
Yeps. It's proven that the average female her brain is smaller as the average male brain.

Shoot me.

Isn't discrimination based on sex proscribed by the ECHR?

I think you need reporting the Press Complaints Commission.
JuNii
13-11-2007, 21:01
Yeps. It's proven that the average female her brain is smaller as the average male brain.

Shoot me.

1) provide the proof to your claim

2) so being a sexist is ok while being a racist is wrong? can you say Double standard?

3) careful, if you're in Belgium, your post can be construed as a plea for assisted Suicide.
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 21:01
1) provide the proof to your claim
Don't worry; he won't.
Dundee-Fienn
13-11-2007, 21:03
1) provide the proof to your claim


My guess is "It's common sense" will be the reply
JuNii
13-11-2007, 21:05
I called her already 36633 times bitch. She knows that I think she is not a bitch.

so your excuse is that you call someone a "bitch" enough times you're not sexist?
Steely Glintt
13-11-2007, 21:05
Eh?

In my country it happens regularly that organisations, private persons and entire political parties are convicted for racist behaviour and deeds.

Daniel Féret -for having a racist website (hey !)
Hans Van Temse - for doing racist murders
Vlaams Belang - for talking and writing racist words.

And Gravlen, please, be silent. You are making a lot of noise, misquoting links etc... but you know nothing.

I already contacted authorities in UK and they already answered that they certainly could something about it. I didn't mention the Jolt forum.

I politely explained the situation and they encourage it that I asked several times to delete that illegal racist stuff.

We'll see tomorrow what will happen. But oh boy, you know nothing;

What authority in the UK have you reported to?
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:06
I for one don't, but you're surprisingly inept at providing examples.

I mean, again you mention the UK. You have yet to show that. Apparently it's one of the countries that you don't know the laws of - so why do you keep mentioning it?

But go ahead. Provide one example apart from the special Nazi-legislation in Germany that proves that racism is illegal in ANY country in Europe. Go on.

You won't find one.

(And you can explain how these laws aren't contradictory with Article 9 and Article 10 of the European Convention of Human Rights while you're at it. Especially since ECHR is supposedly in line with the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (http://www.ohchr.org/english/law/pdf/cerd.pdf).

Well?



"Arranged by the EC"? Huh? :confused:

And please provide the directives or regulations that the EU have issued, if that's what you're on about?


Eh?

In my country it happens regularly that organisations, private persons and entire political parties are convicted for racist behaviour and deeds.

Daniel Féret -for having a racist website (hey !)
Hans Van Temse - for doing racist murders
Vlaams Belang - for talking and writing racist words.

And Gravlen, please, be silent. You are making a lot of noise, misquoting links etc... but you know nothing.

I already contacted authorities in UK and they already answered that they certainly could something about it. I didn't mention the Jolt forum.

I politely explained the situation and they encourage it that I asked several times to delete that illegal racist stuff.

We'll see tomorrow what will happen. But oh boy, you know nothing;
JuNii
13-11-2007, 21:06
My guess is "It's common sense" will be the reply

glad his/her common sense isn't...
Great Void
13-11-2007, 21:09
I politely explained the situation
So you are capable of doing that..?
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:11
1) provide the proof to your claim

2) so being a sexist is ok while being a racist is wrong? can you say Double standard?

3) careful, if you're in Belgium, your post can be construed as a plea for assisted Suicide.

1) Sure.

[edit] Brain size
See also: Craniometry and Brain size and intelligence
In 1861, Paul Broca examined 432 human brains and found that the brains of males had an average weight of 1325 grams, while the brains of females had an average weight of 1144 grams. A 1992 study of 6325 Army personnel found that men's brains had an average volume of 1442 cm³, while the women averaged 1332 cm³. (Ankney 1992[4]). The differences are smaller but persist when adjusted for body size (Ankey, 1992).

In 2005, Haier et al. reported that compared with men, women show more white matter and fewer gray matter areas related to intelligence[32]. Using brain mapping, it was shown that men have more than six times the amount of gray matter related to general intelligence than women, and women have nearly ten times the amount of white matter related to intelligence than men[33]. Gray matter is used for information processing, while white matter consists of the connections between processing centers. They also report that the brain areas correlated with IQ differ between the sexes. In short, men and women apparently achieve similar IQ results with different brain regions.[34]

Although women may have smaller brains than men, they appear to have greater neuron density in their prefrontal lobe ([5]), which is involved in planning, judgment, and language, although men still have higher absolute grey matter volume than women in their prefrontal lobe ([6]).

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_intelligence#Brain_size

2) Stating that the women brain is smaller as the male one, isn't sexism.

Btw, there are other things as well that determine if you are smart or not, the amount of neurons by instance...

3) "Shoot me" is an English expression.
Tagmatium
13-11-2007, 21:11
Daniel Féret -for having a racist website (hey !)
Hans Van Temse - for doing racist murders
Vlaams Belang - for talking and writing racist words.
Indeed.

But, correct me if I am wrong, Daniel Feret isn't British, so therefore the PCC really isn't anything to do with it.

And the second, well, I don't think NSG has recently committed any racially-motivated murders, what with it being an internet-based forum and all.

Third - same as one.
Snafturi
13-11-2007, 21:13
so your excuse is that you call someone a "bitch" enough times you're not sexist?

Sweet! I hope that works for all explitives.

*goes about calling eveyone she meets $#*&^ ^@%$$ @%$s*
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:13
so your excuse is that you call someone a "bitch" enough times you're not sexist?

That's correct.
Tagmatium
13-11-2007, 21:14
That's correct.
Are you being ironic?

I hope you are, for your argument's sake.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:15
What authority in the UK have you reported to?

Well, it wasn't that easy. But after a while you get where you have to be.

I'll tell you tomorrow. Promissed.
Dundee-Fienn
13-11-2007, 21:16
Well, it wasn't that easy. But after a while you get where you have to be.

I'll tell you tomorrow. Promissed.

I'm taking bets that tomorrow he'll say he reported it to MI6 :P
Hydesland
13-11-2007, 21:16
Daniel Féret -for having a racist website (hey !)


Firstly, it was for publishing racist pamphlets, and these pamphlets were practically inciting racial hatred, there is a difference. Secondly, this is in Belgium, nothing to do with the UK.


Hans Van Temse - for doing racist murders


Prejudice =/= discrimination. He was arrested not due to any orwellian thought police scheme in place.


Vlaams Belang - for talking and writing racist words.


Again, this was for incitement to racial hatred and discrimination. Big difference. Also, he is still Belgian! Belgium =/= UK!
JuNii
13-11-2007, 21:16
Daniel Féret -for having a racist website (hey !)Wong...
from wiki.
Daniel Féret was sentenced to 240 hours of community service on April 18, 2006, because of the incitement of hate, discrimination and segregation in the party's flyers and website. He is also barred from running for political office for 10 years. This sentence was later upheld in September 2006.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_F%C3%A9ret"

emphasis mine. Incitement of Hate, that is far beyond just posting. and yes, you try to incte anyone of hate/discrimination/etc... and you will find that the mods here will take action.
Hans Van Temse - for doing racist murders murders are not postings on a forum.
Vlaams Belang - for talking and writing racist words. err... are you talking about the LAWSUITE which is between that group and an individual/group? also Vlaams is a political group that strove to put their idologies into practice.

And Gravlen, please, be silent. You are making a lot of noise, misquoting links etc... but you know nothing. Kettle meets Pot... again.

I already contacted authorities in UK and they already answered that they certainly could something about it. I didn't mention the Jolt forum.

I politely explained the situation and they encourage it that I asked several times to delete that illegal racist stuff.

We'll see tomorrow what will happen. But oh boy, you know nothing;
so are you agreeing with the mod's terms then?
Snafturi
13-11-2007, 21:16
I'm so sorry that you can't read.

Here was Graven his statement:

Oh goody. You can link two posts together that have nothing to do with each other and nothing to do with your point. Do you want a gold star?
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:17
I'm so sorry that you can't read.

Here was Graven his statement:

Provide one example apart from the special Nazi-legislation in Germany that proves that racism is illegal in ANY country in Europe. Go on.

You won't find one.

Indeed.

But, correct me if I am wrong, Daniel Feret isn't British, so therefore the PCC really isn't anything to do with it.

And the second, well, I don't think NSG has recently committed any racially-motivated murders, what with it being an internet-based forum and all.

Third - same as one.
Steely Glintt
13-11-2007, 21:18
Well, it wasn't that easy. But after a while you get where you have to be.

I'll tell you tomorrow. Promissed.

Why not name the agency now so that those of us who like to use things such as evidence and source our claims can check it out?

Oh, that's right, it's because you are talking out of your arse.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:20
I'm taking bets that tomorrow he'll say he reported it to MI6 :P

Scotland Yard would be fine ;)
Tagmatium
13-11-2007, 21:21
I'm so sorry that you can't read.

Here was Graven his statement:
Indeed.

But then the organisation you mentioned in that post which caused the fuss in Moderation sub-forum was the PCC, a British organisation. What it does has nothing to do with what happens or what laws exist outside of the UK's borders, which is what I was on about.
Hydesland
13-11-2007, 21:21
I can't wait for Ed's whimsical scheme to fail hopelessly, should be a laugh!
JuNii
13-11-2007, 21:21
That's correct.

ah so you are now promoting a sexist act by encouraging others to utilizing sexist and demeaning lables.

I really wanna see your agency go through these boards... talk about shooting yourself in the foot. :rolleyes:
Snafturi
13-11-2007, 21:21
I'm sorry that you don't like my correct answers.

If by correct you mean random nonsense that addresses nothing, then yes.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:22
Oh goody. You can link two posts together that have nothing to do with each other and nothing to do with your point. Do you want a gold star?

I'm sorry that you don't like my correct answers.
JuNii
13-11-2007, 21:23
Well, it wasn't that easy. But after a while you get where you have to be.

I'll tell you tomorrow. Promissed.
in other words... you didn't. after all, if you did, then why not tell us.
Tagmatium
13-11-2007, 21:24
We'll see tomorrow.

The mods have time till 13:00 GMT to remove their illegal racist posts...
Or what? The PCC will send in a Armed Response Unit and close down these boards?
Snafturi
13-11-2007, 21:24
We'll see tomorrow.

The mods have time till 13:00 GMT to remove their illegal racist posts...

Threatening the mods again? I thought you were advised against that.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:25
Why not name the agency now so that those of us who like to use things such as evidence and source our claims can check it out?

Oh, that's right, it's because you are talking out of your arse.

We'll see tomorrow.

The mods have time till 13:00 GMT to remove their illegal racist posts...
Hydesland
13-11-2007, 21:26
Edwinsa, if it turns out that this "authority" you whined to actually decides to start doing Internet censorship on NSG, I'll actually pay you £1,000,000. Seriously.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:26
If by correct you mean random nonsense that addresses nothing, then yes.

Eh? He asked to name one European country where racism is illegal.

I gave you Belgium with 3 examples.

BTW, do you really think we only had 3 racist cases? wahaha!

But still it is nonsens. You just don't like it what you read.
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 21:27
In my country it happens regularly that organisations, private persons and entire political parties are convicted for racist behaviour and deeds.
Oh really? Then you should have no problem providing links or evidence.

...which you have yet to do.


Daniel Féret -for having a racist website (hey !)
Wrong.

Since you provided no links, I went to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_F%C3%A9ret):
Daniel Féret was sentenced to 240 hours of community service on April 18, 2006, because of the incitement of hate, discrimination and segregation in the party's flyers and website. He is also barred from running for political office for 10 years. This sentence was later upheld in September 2006.
Incitement of hate and discrimination. Not racism in and by itself.


Hans Van Temse - for doing racist murders
*sigh*
Racist murders. Not racism in and by itself. Thank you.


Vlaams Belang - for talking and writing racist words.
Wrong!

Wiki sez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaams_Belang#Trial):
In 2002, three non-profit organisations that in effect constituted the core of the Vlaams Blok party were sued by the Centre for Equal Opportunities and Opposition to Racism and the Liga voor Mensenrechten for "incitement to hate and discrimination." The organisations were condemned by the Appeals Court of Ghent in April 2004 for "repeated incitement to discrimination." The party's appeal of the verdict was rejected by the High Court in November 2004.
Incitement to discrimination. Not racism in and by itself.


And Gravlen, please, be silent. You are making a lot of noise, misquoting links etc...
Misquoting what links? And heh, it is to laugh... At least I provide links and evidence.


but you know nothing.
Actually, you just disproved that :)



I already contacted authorities in UK and they already answered that they certainly could something about it. I didn't mention the Jolt forum.
Sure, baby.



We'll see tomorrow what will happen. But oh boy, you know nothing;

I know that you're a rude little boy. And you fail completely and utterly. Thank you.
HC Eredivisie
13-11-2007, 21:27
We'll see tomorrow.

The mods have time till 13:00 GMT to remove their illegal racist posts...Well, seeing as it are not their posts...
Tagmatium
13-11-2007, 21:27
But, once again, it isn't your place to tell the Mods what to or what not to do, especially whilst threatening them you'll call the PCC.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:27
Threatening the mods again? I thought you were advised against that.

It's not a threat if you advise one not to commit a crime.
Snafturi
13-11-2007, 21:28
Eh? He asked to name one European country where racism is illegal.

I gave you Belgium with 3 examples.

BTW, do you really think we only had 3 racist cases? wahaha!

But still it is nonsens. You just don't like it what you read.

Three cases that don't even closely resemble what you are talking about. Or please tell me where these NationStates racist murders happened.
Tagmatium
13-11-2007, 21:29
Oh boy! The mods are not nervous at all. They know what will happen.

Yep. They know exactly what will happen.
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 21:30
It's not a threat if you advise one not to commit a crime.

It can be.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:30
Or what? The PCC will send in a Armed Response Unit and close down these boards?

Then I make my complaint official.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Oh boy! The mods are not nervous at all. They know what will happen.

Worse case, they'll been asked to remove the rotten stuff. That's it.

I think they are amused if I really would do it and maybe they are wondering what actually would happen....
Bottle
13-11-2007, 21:31
This is not a private place. It's public, since anyone can enter the joint.

As I think you'll be finding out shortly, not anyone can enter this joint. It's a private site, and the moderators can (and do) ban people from entering.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:32
But, once again, it isn't your place to tell the Mods what to or what not to do, especially whilst threatening them you'll call the PCC.

This is not a private place. It's public, since anyone can enter the joint.

And again, oh boy, try to start up a private child porn club! Wahahaha

But officer, it's private, we abuse our children like we want

Wahahaha!
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 21:32
You fail at UK law.

:fluffle:

He also fails at Belgian law, which is most funny :D
Rasselas
13-11-2007, 21:33
You fail at UK law.
Edwinasia
13-11-2007, 21:34
Three cases that don't even closely resemble what you are talking about. Or please tell me where these NationStates racist murders happened.

You have no clue eh?

He just asked if I could point 1 single country where racism is forbidden.

I gave him 'Belgium'.

I gave also, without being asked 3 specific Belgian cases.

And please don't act as man with an IQ of 4 or something.
HC Eredivisie
13-11-2007, 21:34
Then I make my complaint official.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Oh boy! The mods are not nervous at all. They know what will happen.

Worse case, they'll been asked to remove the rotten stuff. That's it.

I think they are amused if I really would do it and maybe they are wondering what actually would happen....So you haven't done anything yet, although you just said you reported them?
JuNii
13-11-2007, 21:34
This is not a private place. It's public, since anyone can enter the joint.

And again, oh boy, try to start up a private child porn club! Wahahaha

But officer, it's private, we abuse our children like we want

Wahahaha!

on man, keep quoting him. I wanna see what his 'authorities' will do when they see that Edwinasia is the only one tying to promote illegal activities. :D

see ya guys on thursday.

when will we get Eddie's public apology when nothing happens?
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 21:34
He just asked if I could point 1 single country where racism is forbidden.

I gave him 'Belgium'.

And you failed completely (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13213227&postcount=84). Congratulations, you fail yet again. :D
HC Eredivisie
13-11-2007, 21:35
This is not a private place.


Epic Fail.:p
JuNii
13-11-2007, 21:35
You have no clue eh?

He just asked if I could point 1 single country where racism is forbidden.

I gave him 'Belgium'.

I gave also, without being asked 3 specific Belgian cases.

And please don't act as man with an IQ of 4 or something.

that included Murder and incitement to discriminatory actions.
Snafturi
13-11-2007, 21:36
It's not a threat if you advise one not to commit a crime.

But it's not a crime which makes it a threat. It also could be seen as intent to initiate litigation which equals you getting banned until it resolves in your favor. Or did you miss that?
Gravlen
13-11-2007, 21:36
that included Murder and incitement to discriminatory actions.

...which indeed is different than simply "racism" :)
Euroslavia
13-11-2007, 21:40
That's up to the owners of the board.


No, it's not.

Despite evidence to the contrary, you keep claiming this. Back it up, or shut up about it.


This. Topic closed.
Euroslavia
13-11-2007, 21:40
We'll see tomorrow.

The mods have time till 13:00 GMT to remove their illegal racist posts...

More threats, eh? Great. :) You're really helping your case. We're not removing them.