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Which way is the bus traveling?

Sumamba Buwhan
13-11-2007, 00:24
Which way is the bus traveling?


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/m00nbeast/artwork%20-%20funnies/whichwaybus.jpg


to the left or to the right?


If you know the answer then let some other people get it wrong first
Andaluciae
13-11-2007, 00:26
There is no bus... (http://rock-paper-scissors.typepad.com/snowbear/images/1274768_matrixneospoon.gif)
Gift-of-god
13-11-2007, 00:27
To me, it looks like it's moving towards me.
Kryozerkia
13-11-2007, 00:27
Is the bus really travelling or are we misled into believing that it is travelling?

However, like a half full glass, if one is half full then it's coming, at half empty, it's leaving.
Bann-ed
13-11-2007, 00:28
Uh...what?
That is a .jpg

It isn't moving whatsoever.

I am not even sure that is an accurate picture of a bus.
JuNii
13-11-2007, 00:29
If you know the answer then let some other people get it wrong first
Okey-dokey!
Sumamba Buwhan
13-11-2007, 00:32
Okey-dokey!


okay give us a hint!
Theoretical Physicists
13-11-2007, 00:35
Seeing as the wheels aren't connected to the chassis, I doubt it's doing much in the way of moving.
Fassitude
13-11-2007, 00:44
I'm assuming the bus is in a country with traffic on the right side of the road, meaning that the bus is travelling left. Explanation for the really slow:

You can't see the door, hence it's on the other side, meaning that the bus is travelling left. Had it been travelling to the right, the door would've been visible.
Gartref
13-11-2007, 00:46
Is it on a treadmill?
Call to power
13-11-2007, 00:48
its going nowhere because the local council has decided to privatize the bus service

its also see through :eek:
Sumamba Buwhan
13-11-2007, 00:52
yay Fass


Gartef - I don't think a bus can take flight on a treadmill :p
Swilatia
13-11-2007, 00:58
The "bus" is not going anywhere. It stays in post 1.
Vetalia
13-11-2007, 01:00
It's going right. Given that the bus appears to have no windshield or driver's window, it is also plausible that it has no door, making it possible to go either way.
Creepy Lurker
13-11-2007, 01:01
Does this work in the UK/other places where they drive on the correct side?
Darknovae
13-11-2007, 01:02
It's not moving anywhere. That thing doesn't even look liek a bus.
Bann-ed
13-11-2007, 01:03
I would like one of you to prove to me that it is even a bus.
As well as the assumed 'fact' that it is somehow structurally sound.
On top of that, I would like someone to prove to me that it is not in fact a .jpg, but a real bus that can actually move.
JuNii
13-11-2007, 01:04
okay give us a hint!

The bus is going thataway *points*

you know... Forwards.
Fassitude
13-11-2007, 01:04
yay Fass

That never gets old.
Creepy Lurker
13-11-2007, 01:06
It's a bus! (http://www.atdi.co.uk/images/productImage/h-double-decker-bus.jpg)
Forsakia
13-11-2007, 01:08
Does this work in the UK/other places where they drive on the correct side?

Then the bus'd be going another way. So you go from guessing which way the bus is going, to guessing which side of the bus the door is on in the OP's country (or in the country the bus is from) so there's no definitive answer.
OceanDrive2
13-11-2007, 01:18
.. there's no definitive answer.the bus is going right then left.. then right again.. and left some more.. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr2l6CRzOB0)

WTF :confused:
Sumamba Buwhan
13-11-2007, 01:19
That never gets old.

Oh I forgot your prize

a golden fortune cookie and a fortune

http://www.weddingthings.com/Merchant2/graphics/oriental/gold_fortune_cookie_box300.jpg

Confucius Johann Wolfgang von Goethe say "Die größten Schwierigkeiten liegen da, wo wir sie nicht suchen."
Sumamba Buwhan
13-11-2007, 01:37
Then the bus'd be going another way. So you go from guessing which way the bus is going, to guessing which side of the bus the door is on in the OP's country (or in the country the bus is from) so there's no definitive answer.

Totally! But I'm USianCentric. :p
Fassitude
13-11-2007, 01:37
Confucius Johann Wolfgang von Goethe say "Die größten Schwierigkeiten liegen da, wo wir sie nicht suchen."

Wie die Sprichwörter lauten, alte Füchse gehen schwer in die Falle, aber der dümmste Bauer erntet die dicksten Kartoffeln.
Turquoise Days
13-11-2007, 01:39
Which way is the bus traveling?


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/m00nbeast/artwork%20-%20funnies/whichwaybus.jpg


to the left or to the right?


If you know the answer then let some other people get it wrong first

How about this? It is blue, therefore it is coming towards me. Blueshifted. As it is clearly a space bus, the fact that the wheels are spherical causes no problem.
Sumamba Buwhan
13-11-2007, 01:46
Wie die Sprichwörter lauten, alte Füchse gehen schwer in die Falle, aber der dümmste Bauer erntet die dicksten Kartoffeln.

Aber, wenn Sie dem Fuchs die Kartoffeln einziehen, konnten Sie mit einem neuen Geschlechtspielzeug für den Landwirt oben aus irgendeinem Grund beenden.
Sumamba Buwhan
13-11-2007, 01:47
How about this? It is blue, therefore it is coming towards me. Blueshifted. As it is clearly a space bus, the fact that the wheels are spherical causes no problem.


Survey says....

*ding*

number 3 on the board
Barringtonia
13-11-2007, 02:00
That's no bus, that's a toaster on wheels, for when you want your toast in a hurry.
Fassitude
13-11-2007, 02:05
Aber, wenn Sie dem Fuchs die Kartoffeln einziehen, konnten Sie mit einem neuen Geschlechtspielzeug für den Landwirt oben aus irgendeinem Grund beenden.

Geschlechtspielzeug? Verrücktes Gespräch.
Sumamba Buwhan
13-11-2007, 02:23
Geschlechtspielzeug? Verrücktes Gespräch.

es gibt mir große Freude
Fassitude
13-11-2007, 02:42
es gibt mir große Freude

Sehr große, ohne Zweifel.
New Manvir
13-11-2007, 03:05
WATCH OUT!!!!! It's coming RIGHT AT YOU!!!!!!
South Lorenya
13-11-2007, 03:11
It's not traveling in ANY direction until they replace the engine Simon the BoFH stole while the PFY distracted the drvier.
CanuckHeaven
13-11-2007, 03:13
Which way is the bus traveling?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/m00nbeast/artwork%20-%20funnies/whichwaybus.jpg

to the left or to the right?
http://www.animationplayhouse.com/green_arrow_left.gif
Wilgrove
13-11-2007, 03:51
I doubt it's going anywhere, I mean the wheels aren't even connected to the chassis, and where's the drive shaft?
Sumamba Buwhan
13-11-2007, 19:30
:upyours: children

thanks for playing with me! :)

Anyone else wanna post some pic riddles? :fluffle:



omgwtfbbqsaucewithhabanero:mp5::sniper::gundge::mp5::sniper::gundge:
SoWiBi
13-11-2007, 19:40
Aber, wenn Sie dem Fuchs die Kartoffeln einziehen, konnten Sie mit einem neuen Geschlechtspielzeug für den Landwirt oben aus irgendeinem Grund beenden.

What the holy Elk? Kids, never play with online translators; they're dirty.

... do I assume correctly that you first want to shove some potatoes up some unmentionable places of some poor fox, only to then use the poor creature for the sexual fantasies of some misguided farmer?

Oh, NSG.
Gift-of-god
13-11-2007, 19:45
It still looks like it's headed towards me.
Deus Malum
13-11-2007, 19:47
Which way is the bus traveling?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/m00nbeast/artwork%20-%20funnies/whichwaybus.jpg

to the left or to the right?

If you know the answer then let some other people get it wrong first

The correct answer is: You can not know.

Evoking Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle for a moment, a relation exists between the uncertainty (deviation) of the position, x, and the momentum, p, (related to the velocity) of any particle or object of the form dx*dp is greater than or equal to Planck's constant.

Given, therefore, that we are looking at a static picture of any object, whether it is known to be in motion or not, and therefore where the position of the object can be determined exactly, it follows that, since dx = 0, dp = infinity.

Therefore, while we know the position of the bus in the picture exactly, we have absolutely no information about the momentum (and consequently, the velocity) of the bus, and therefore we know nothing about which direction it is moving in, or whether or not it is even moving.


...I have a Quantum Mechanics exam in 45 minutes...
South Lorenya
13-11-2007, 21:23
But Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle only applies to particles, not to looted vehicles.
SeathorniaII
13-11-2007, 21:26
Either left or right, entirely dependant on where you live and what the laws regarding driving are there.
SeathorniaII
13-11-2007, 21:26
Wrong. The bus is going to the left because you can't see the door.

The bus is going to the right, because you can't see the door ;) You're making an assumption. A dangerous one.
Kyronea
13-11-2007, 21:27
The correct answer is: You can not know.

Evoking Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle for a moment, a relation exists between the uncertainty (deviation) of the position, x, and the momentum, p, (related to the velocity) of any particle or object of the form dx*dp is greater than or equal to Planck's constant.

Given, therefore, that we are looking at a static picture of any object, whether it is known to be in motion or not, and therefore where the position of the object can be determined exactly, it follows that, since dx = 0, dp = infinity.

Therefore, while we know the position of the bus in the picture exactly, we have absolutely no information about the momentum (and consequently, the velocity) of the bus, and therefore we know nothing about which direction it is moving in, or whether or not it is even moving.


...I have a Quantum Mechanics exam in 45 minutes...
Wrong. The bus is going to the left because you can't see the door.
HC Eredivisie
13-11-2007, 21:42
But Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle only applies to particles, not to looted vehicles.It does apply to buses.;)
Khadgar
13-11-2007, 21:51
Wrong. The bus is going to the left because you can't see the door.

As was pointed out earlier the drawing is so crude that it's impossible to rely upon that for evidence. There's no indication of a number of vital parts of the bus which would make it's direction apparent. Add in the fact that it's not moving and it's not actually going anywhere. You can make an argument (futile) for it's current facing, but not it's motion.
Law Abiding Criminals
13-11-2007, 22:05
The bus looks more like a hamburger bun on wheels than a bus. Therefore, since hamburger buns don't have doors, we're led to believe that the bus is not moving. After all, the wheels would not roll consistently with a hamburger bun, and the bun would just roll off.
Khadgar
13-11-2007, 22:21
The bus looks more like a hamburger bun on wheels than a bus. Therefore, since hamburger buns don't have doors, we're led to believe that the bus is not moving. After all, the wheels would not roll consistently with a hamburger bun, and the bun would just roll off.

A hamburger sitting on a couple hot-dogs?
Agolthia
13-11-2007, 23:46
It does apply to buses.;)

That would explain so much about the British Bus System..
Agolthia
13-11-2007, 23:47
As was pointed out earlier the drawing is so crude that it's impossible to rely upon that for evidence. There's no indication of a number of vital parts of the bus which would make it's direction apparent. Add in the fact that it's not moving and it's not actually going anywhere. You can make an argument (futile) for it's current facing, but not it's motion.

Also, even if u assume that you are seeing one side and not the other, how do we know it is not reversing?
Yootopia
14-11-2007, 00:17
What if it's like an Isetta and hence has the door at the front? DIDN'T THINK OF THAT, EH?
Deus Malum
14-11-2007, 00:24
Either left or right, entirely dependant on where you live and what the laws regarding driving are there.

Not entirely true. It was originally formulated for particles and other systems that were best described by QM, but it can be applied to any system. One of the problems on my Physics 3 final included an Uncertainty analysis of a billiard ball resting on a table. Your uncertainty in the position is necessarily bound by your finest measuring tool available (one can assume this to be small, on the order of a tenth of a millimeter (10^-4)), and can therefore calculate an uncertainty in the momentum of dp greater than or equal to h/10^-4, or a number on the order of 10^-30, which is understandable since the ball can be observed to be largely nonmoving. Of course as you refine your measurement for the position of the billiard ball down to the atomic level (on the order of 10^-10 meters), the uncertainty in the momentum starts to become appreciable, on the order of 10^-24 kilogram-meters per second. It's still absurdly low, largely because you're working with a Planck's constant on the order of 10^-34 Joules per second.
When dealing with particles, this becomes much more noticeable, because you are largely working with Planck's constant in electron volts, which is on the order of 10^-16 eV/s, and so an uncertainty in the position at the atomic level (again, on the order of 10^-10) yields an uncertainty in the momentum of 10^-6 kg*m/s, considerably more noticeable.



@Kyronea: It could be backing up ;)
AnarchyeL
14-11-2007, 06:59
It's going right. Given that the bus appears to have no windshield or driver's window, it is also plausible that it has no door, making it possible to go either way.Agreed. The drawing in no way implies an attempt at accuracy, so why should we presume it has a door? It's clearly missing too many other things to justify any such assumption.
Kyronea
14-11-2007, 09:28
As was pointed out earlier the drawing is so crude that it's impossible to rely upon that for evidence. There's no indication of a number of vital parts of the bus which would make it's direction apparent. Add in the fact that it's not moving and it's not actually going anywhere. You can make an argument (futile) for it's current facing, but not it's motion.

Well, yeah, but what's his face said Fass was right when he answered that.
Ifreann
14-11-2007, 13:06
The bus is parked outside a brothel, and the driver is inside. It won't be travelling anywhere for some time