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http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2007-11-08T182553Z_01_L08610491_RTRUKOC_0_US-BRITAIN-FRANCE.xml

So they don't have move to France because, supposedly, doing homework and having to go a few miles to get to school violates their rights :eek:

I take it that every British child has a right to a "key"???

Did you know you Brits have a right to a good night's sleep as well? It's true, look it up.

And gosh, those kids sure whined their way out of THAT one.

Wait, I'm confused, kids can't have their own key in france?

Oh, Jesus. We're giving children a voice in their futures. We're fucked! :eek:

And gosh, those kids sure whined their way out of THAT one.

It sounds like it from the article, yes.

This is... uhm, words fail me. :eek:


Wait, I'm confused, kids can't have their own key in france?

Of course they can, if their parents give them one. I had a key as a kid.

Didn't they ask the children who they wanted to stay with previously?

A US judge would have probably told them to suck it up and go back to France with their mom. US judges tend to side with the custodial parents in most cases.

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Of course they can, if their parents give them one. I had a key as a kid.

So what were the kids whining about?

Oh, Jesus. We're giving children a voice in their futures. We're fucked! :eek:

But unless they are 16 or 17 they don't have the capacity to know what's best for their futures. That's why society gives parents the right to tell them what to do. It's for kids' own good.

Didn't they ask the children who they wanted to stay with previously?

It seems the courts assigned custody to the mother. They could ask the children but in most cases that's not enough. If the kid's chosen parent doesn't have the ability to properly care for them, then the courts will assign custody to the parent the children don't want to go with.

Example:
The kids like dad and want to stay with him. But dad is a homeless bum. Then the judge assigns custody to mean old mom who actually has a job and can actually care for the kids.

But unless they are 16 or 17 they don't have the capacity to know what's best for their futures. That's why society gives parents the right to tell them what to do. It's for kids' own good.

Have you taken a good look at parents lately? Age is no longer a sign of wisdom. :(

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2007-11-08T182553Z_01_L08610491_RTRUKOC_0_US-BRITAIN-FRANCE.xml

So they don't have move to France because, supposedly, doing homework and having to go a few miles to get to school violates their rights :eek:

I take it that every British child has a right to a "key"???

"Court rules in best interest of children" shock!

Goodness me, what is the world coming to?

Have you taken a good look at parents lately? Age is no longer a sign of wisdom. :(

Nope, see, I'm young and very wise *nod*

"Court rules in best interest of children" shock!

Goodness me, what is the world coming to?

Not having to do homework is in the children's best interest?

Have you taken a good look at parents lately? Age is no longer a sign of wisdom. :(

Maybe the parents were spoiled as children and as such, don't have the capacity to be parents??

It seems the courts assigned custody to the mother. They could ask the children but in most cases that's not enough. If the kid's chosen parent doesn't have the ability to properly care for them, then the courts will assign custody to the parent the children don't want to go with.

Example:
The kids like dad and want to stay with him. But dad is a homeless bum. Then the judge assigns custody to mean old mom who actually has a job and can actually care for the kids.

Yes, of course, but I don't think that's the case...

Not having to do homework is in the children's best interest?

Well, I don't know how much homework you had to do, but reading clearly wasn't on the curriculum. It doesn't say anything about having to do no homework; it may refer to having to do less homework, but that's not the same thing.

Perhaps you would prefer this (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article2827739.ece)less sensationalist article on the matter, which, incidentally, clearly shows that the 'less homework' remark are the boys own words.

Have you taken a good look at parents lately? Age is no longer a sign of wisdom. :(Please tell me a high post count still is... :(

But unless they are 16 or 17 they don't have the capacity to know what's best for their futures. That's why society gives parents the right to tell them what to do. It's for kids' own good.

*insert laughing smiley here*

Please tell me a high post count still is... :(

of course not.




waitaminute...

Have you taken a good look at parents lately? Age is no longer a sign of wisdom. :(

But LG, you're a parent and I think you're the Nestor of NS.

Please tell me a high post count still is... :(

See my post count?

*sticks a cupcake down my pants*

Any questions? :D

But LG, you're a parent and I think you're the Nestor of NS.

I defy all convention. :)

See my post count?

*sticks a cupcake down my pants*

Any questions? :D
You wizened up! I remember the days when it wasn't cupcakes but weasels! :D

of course not.




waitaminute...Ach... I am lagging behind on that.

You wizened up! I remember the days when it wasn't cupcakes but weasels! :D

It was both. The weasels had to eat, afterall. :)

From what I read, this had less to do with homework and more to do with two kids who lived in a country they found too foreign for them to live and succeed in. I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to move to France or Canada or Mexico or any other country. Once you lived one way for years and years, it's very difficult to assimilate enough to truly thrive.

Oh, Jesus. We're giving children a voice in their futures. We're fucked! :eek:

oh my god, free will!

Once you lived one way for years and years, it's very difficult to assimilate enough to truly thrive.Well, I totally disagree... I spent a year in Munich after growing up for 19 years in Berlin, and Bavaria (where Munich is) is like a whole different country (complete with its own language, culture, and conservative party), and yet I felt right at home. A year ago, I did a semester abroad in Virginia, and felt right at home there too.

It was both. The weasels had to eat, afterall. :)Don't be silly. Weasels eat meat, not cupcakes. *nods sagely*

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Nyargh!!!!
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From what I read, this had less to do with homework and more to do with two kids who lived in a country they found too foreign for them to live and succeed in. I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to move to France or Canada or Mexico or any other country. Once you lived one way for years and years, it's very difficult to assimilate enough to truly thrive.

No, it isn't. But should anyone be forced to try(assuming a reasonable option involving not exists)?

Don't be silly. Weasels eat meat, not cupcakes. *nods sagely*

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Nyargh!!!!

These are Cake Weasels. They're related to Cheese Weasels. *nod*

These are Cake Weasels. They're related to Cheese Weasels. *nod*
Cheese weasels... Curses, foiled again!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Foiled-Again.jpg

And Cheese Weasel is victorious yet again!

http://weaselhut.net/pirate-weasel.gifThat's not a foil, though. It is a sabre. ;)

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And this was a timewarp...

Cheese weasels... Curses, foiled again!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Foiled-Again.jpg

And Cheese Weasel is victorious yet again!

http://weaselhut.net/pirate-weasel.gif

I defy all convention. :)

Ah-hm. You're our only hope.

Cheese weasels... Curses, foiled again!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Foiled-Again.jpg

That looks more like an épée to me.

That looks more like an épée to me.Probably the french grip that does it. I'd wager it's hard to tell the two apart in drawings unless you have both present.

Probably the french grip that does it. I'd wager it's hard to tell the two apart in drawings unless you have both present.

I do. I only use a French and Italian grip, so I'd know. Look...






...épée...

http://www.hpfc.org.uk/Graphics/Weapons%20and%20Clothing/Epee.gif






...foil...

http://www.hpfc.org.uk/Graphics/Weapons%20and%20Clothing/Foil.gif







Undoubtedly it's the former.

I do. I only use a French and Italian grip, so I'd know. Look...
I fence too, you know ;)

I fence too, you know ;)

I know. But you're deceived by that nasty pistol-grip-thingy--and you probably bounce!

I'm old-school. :D

I know. But you're deceived by that nasty pistol-grip-thingy--and you probably bounce!

I'm old-school. :DAh, hell, give me a french over pistol grip any day. Right there with you.

Oh but you see... Cheese Weasel comes prepared to protect the cheese so (s)he brings a spare sword in the event that the other one gets...*lost*... :DThat pic was so fitting... The internet is a seriously amazing place.

That's not a foil, though. It is a sabre. ;)

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And this was a timewarp...

Oh but you see... Cheese Weasel comes prepared to protect the cheese so (s)he brings a spare sword in the event that the other one gets...*lost*... :D

Ah, hell, give me a french over pistol grip any day. Right there with you.


Indeed? My teacher is pretty strict Italian style (even in épée your hand must be behind you head), and even he uses a pistol grip.

That pic was so fitting... The internet is a seriously amazing place.

I didn't even have to use the internet, I had it on my harddrive. :)

I didn't even have to use the internet, I had it on my harddrive. :)Filthy lies! >=(
I know what happens when people link to pictures on their harddrives!

Filthy lies! >=(
I know what happens when people link to pictures on their harddrives!

Do tell. I like stories.

Do tell. I like stories.

Indeed? http://weaselhut.net/pirate-weasel.gif

Indeed? http://weaselhut.net/pirate-weasel.gif

;) And that would be my domain...and host that you're linking to here.

;) And that would be my domain...and host that you're linking to here.

But your hard drive?

But your hard drive?

I was saying that I didn't find it online specifically for this thread. I already had the picture on my hard drive and I uploaded it. :D

Well, I don't know how much homework you had to do, but reading clearly wasn't on the curriculum. It doesn't say anything about having to do no homework; it may refer to having to do less homework, but that's not the same thing.

Perhaps you would prefer this (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article2827739.ece)less sensationalist article on the matter, which, incidentally, clearly shows that the 'less homework' remark are the boys own words.

I liked the comment at the end.

I was saying that I didn't find it online specifically for this thread. I already had the picture on my hard drive and I uploaded it. :D

Ah-so.

Do tell. I like stories.It's not really that interesting. Every once in a while, someone posts a link that isn't a URL, but directs to their harddrive, and the next couple posts are all about how no one can see the picture...

It's not really that interesting. Every once in a while, someone posts a link that isn't a URL, but directs to their harddrive, and the next couple posts are all about how no one can see the picture...

I think that's my fault for writing a post while high. It didn't come out coherent.