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Is food from China safe?

Celtlund II
10-11-2007, 22:03
The other day I was looking around in the fish department at the local Wal-Mart and all the fish had signs that gave the price and "product of XXXX." I notice several different types of fish said "Product of China."

There have been a lot of recalls of toys made in China and the recall on tooth paste in the not to distant past. I'm just wondering just how safe food imported from China is. What do you think?
Agerias
10-11-2007, 22:09
Most likely, yeah, it'd be safe.

I take everything the media says with a grain of salt, and it struck me strange that all of a sudden a ton of stuff from China is unsafe, especially with China getting such a huge economy. So my paranoid mind wonders...

Is the government really taking a more active role in reviewing imports to see if they're safer...

Or is the government and/or media trying to make us SCARED OF CHINA?!

I'm leaning towards the latter. I don't trust the 6 o'clock news, especially when it comes to how xenophobic we are to China. >_>
Ashmoria
10-11-2007, 22:12
all i know is that when my husband travels to china on business, his translator asks him to bring some soy protein drink for her elderly father because THEY are unsure how good a similar chinese product might be.

i feel that its risky to take chinese foodstuffs at face value. every company importing chinese foods should be responsible for their quality.
Ifreann
10-11-2007, 22:12
Only one way to find out.
*eats Chinese fish*
*feels uncontrollable urge to smash the evil capitalist system in America*
Ulrichland
10-11-2007, 22:18
"Yesterday he had fugu-fish, today I shall carry his coffin." - Japanese proverb.

Avoid Asian "food"-products at all costs!
Ariddia
10-11-2007, 22:20
I spent ten days in China last July, eating local food, and I survived.

Not without bad stomach pains one night, but I did survive. :p
Marrakech II
10-11-2007, 22:28
I have spent some time in China too for business. I would not trust the food there. However I don't trust the food in many places.
Seraosha
10-11-2007, 22:31
Having recently heard of the way they make burgers for mcdonalds & burger king etc. I think perhaps I'd prefer to take my chances with chinese food!
United Beleriand
10-11-2007, 22:32
Who eats food from China??
Katganistan
10-11-2007, 22:37
Who eats food from China??

The Chinese, at a guess.
The Looney Tunes
10-11-2007, 23:18
you may want to check where the additves in your food com from :p
United Beleriand
10-11-2007, 23:36
you may want to check where the additves in your food com from :pthere are no additives in my food.
IL Ruffino
10-11-2007, 23:37
Why the fuck would you but fish from China? Get local..
Yootopia
11-11-2007, 01:56
No, for 3 reasons : (note : ffs don't take this seriously)

1) They're commies
2) They're Evil Asiatics
3) They sell dodgy barbies
Celtlund II
11-11-2007, 04:18
"Yesterday he had fugu-fish, today I shall carry his coffin." - Japanese proverb.

Avoid Asian "food"-products at all costs!

Hey! Come on! I mean...there are great recipes from Asia. Asian food is one of my favorites. The question here is about raw food from China.

I looked at the package of frozen crawfish tales from China. I considered buying them to make some crawfish gumbo. But...knowing what crawfish eat, and considering where they were from...I decided on shrimp gumbo.
Celtlund II
11-11-2007, 04:20
The Chinese, at a guess.

And many Americans who buy "fresh food" in supermarkets. :rolleyes:
Celtlund II
11-11-2007, 04:22
Why the fuck would you but fish from China? Get local..

Not much "local" fish in Oklahoma unless you catch it yourself. :D
Lacadaemon
11-11-2007, 04:33
Jack in the Box.

Yah, the chinese are far from perfect, but a lot of the recent OMG china stuff is just because the US is seemingly an Empire in decline and is getting all ants in the pants about the next superpower.

In any event, it's not like anything can be done about it. We want the food, they grow it.
Similization
11-11-2007, 04:58
The other day I was looking around in the fish department at the local Wal-Mart and all the fish had signs that gave the price and "product of XXXX." I notice several different types of fish said "Product of China."

There have been a lot of recalls of toys made in China and the recall on tooth paste in the not to distant past. I'm just wondering just how safe food imported from China is. What do you think?There's no basis for similization there. You can't make valid inferences from the information you have.

If you wish to limit your intake of poisonous foodstuffs, I suggest you read up on nutrition, production methods, health regulations and import regulations. It may save time and braincells to stop shopping at walmart in this case. Further time and grief may be saved by switching to an animal-free diet, though it depends heavily on what's immediately available for your consumption.

If you just wish to know how poisonous those fishies are, read up on how and when they're poisonous, then read up on health and import regulations, then read independent assessment reports of the sources of the fishies, and finally read up on the production methods. I'm suggesting that particular order because it may save you time, and all this will take a lot of time.

All that said, I would suggest it's a waste of time worrying about it. Exercising for 30 minutes each day will probably take less time, and be more beneficial to your overall health than finding out if LOT X fish in the walmart fridge is 0.0X% better or worse for you than LOT Y. Most people survive just fine without multiple specializations in geoscience, a degree in production engineering, nutrition and a couple in biology.
Celtlund II
11-11-2007, 06:05
There's no basis for similization there. You can't make valid inferences from the information you have.MASSIVE SNIP

So if I read you correctly you are saying, "Don't eat fish." or are you saying, Don't eat?"
Similization
11-11-2007, 06:12
So if I read you correctly you are saying, "Don't eat fish." or are you saying, Don't eat?"No, actually. Quite the contrary. I was saying "don't worry about it".
New Granada
11-11-2007, 13:02
I eat all kinds of bizarre and objectively vile things here that would probably kill me if they weren't 'safe,' and I haven't had food poisoning even once.

Which said, the Cantonese take their food, especially its freshness, very seriously, so i can see that they might dump the "unfit for cantonese consumption" shit on the foreign market. The fish you eat for dinner here was swimming in the tank when you walked in the door, for real.

You know what's unsafe?

Buying fucking FISH from fucking WAL MART to EAT.

wtf???
Myrmidonisia
11-11-2007, 15:44
And many Americans who buy "fresh food" in supermarkets. :rolleyes:
We've started going to the farmer's markets to pick up fresh produce. We try hard to buy dry goods that are made in the U.S.

My experience is that the Chinese (mainland or Taiwan) will do a great job with a product while you're watching them, but they'll try to cut costs and get by with substandard products when you're not looking. Hence we always do an incoming inspection on everything we make that comes from offshore.
Intestinal fluids
11-11-2007, 15:51
Is the government really taking a more active role in reviewing imports to see if they're safer...

Or is the government and/or media trying to make us SCARED OF CHINA?!

I'm leaning towards the latter. I don't trust the 6 o'clock news, especially when it comes to how xenophobic we are to China. >_>

:rolleyes: yea im sure GHB(date rape drug) in childrens toys (Aquadots)that have injured children worldwide is a US government plot to make China look bad.
Pacificville
11-11-2007, 16:15
Or is the government and/or media trying to make us SCARED OF CHINA?!

I'm leaning towards the latter. I don't trust the 6 o'clock news, especially when it comes to how xenophobic we are to China. >_>

Jesus Christ, dude. Do you think journalists sit around the news room or the studio plotting about how to indoctrinate people, and discuss how to blow-up a non-story like poisoned items from China? Because I have news for you: they don't. And the fact is that there has been a highly publicised wave of unsafe products from China recently. Of course it is relatively an extremely small amount of Chinese imports, but that doesn't make it an non-newsworthy story.

And you don't trust the 6 o'clock news? You take it with a grain of salt? That is such an absurd statement; do trust what they tell you about the football scores? A journalist can go from a sports reporter to a news reporter instantly, but do you think they are immediately going to start scheming about ways to incite hatred? And 6 o'clock news? Are you using that as a general phrase referring to the mainstream media or do you mean literally the 6 o'clock news? Local, state or national? Qualify your god damn generalisations, and more importantly, think about your idiot perception of the media, because it is a unjustly paranoid crock of conspiracy theorist bullshit.
Soleichunn
11-11-2007, 16:28
Only one way to find out.
*eats Chinese fish*
*feels uncontrollable urge to support the evil capitalist system in America*
Fixed :p.

I wouldn't trust the food sold in the poorer urban areas but I'd eat rural or richer urban area foodstuffs if I ever went through China.
Katganistan
11-11-2007, 17:07
"Yesterday he had fugu-fish, today I shall carry his coffin." - Japanese proverb.

Avoid Asian "food"-products at all costs!

You DO know what fugu is, correct, and are not applying that broadly to ALL food products of ALL Asian countries?

Jesus Christ, dude. Do you think journalists sit around the news room or the studio plotting about how to indoctrinate people, and discuss how to blow-up a non-story like poisoned items from China? Because I have news for you: they don't. And the fact is that there has been a highly publicised wave of unsafe products from China recently. Of course it is relatively an extremely small amount of Chinese imports, but that doesn't make it an non-newsworthy story.

Let's not forget the poisoned pet food that killed a number of dogs and cats, and the discovery that melamine was being added to the gluten to stretch it out... even for human use. Or poisoned medicine...


http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/PEK219003.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/world/06poison.html


So, um, yes, I think it is reasonable to wonder if you should use a product when you know its country of origin and you know that over the past two or three years that there are multiple incidents of this type.
Freeholds
11-11-2007, 18:00
Here in the US where we supposidly benefit from the green movement and environmental protection we still have problems with contamination. I'm wondering how many unknown secret waste dumps there are in rural China now. There's no way I would knowingly buy food from China.
Sel Appa
11-11-2007, 19:34
Hell no
Bann-ed
11-11-2007, 20:38
there are no additives in my food.

Where do you get your food from?
Fleckenstein
11-11-2007, 21:03
Where do you get your food from?

I Can't Believe It's Not Jewish.
Bann-ed
11-11-2007, 21:06
I Can't Believe It's Not Jewish.

I can't either..
You know the Jews possess a monopoly on everything, from the government downwards.
Dakini
11-11-2007, 22:15
I had some variation of bok choy yesterday, it was both yummy and perfectly fine.

I'd be more worried about buying food from wal-mart really.
Galvatar
11-11-2007, 22:32
You know the evil corporations you guys keep bashing? They went to china to avoid safety regs. Do i trust chinese food? Hell no!
Endis
11-11-2007, 22:42
Uncle Sam is just prepping us for yet another war.
Araraukar
12-11-2007, 02:51
No idea if it's safe for real, but I don't buy anything edible made in China... then again, I don't buy anything edible made in USA either, for the same reasons: no telling what's really in it... o_O

EDIT: Then again, both my brothers were exchange students in a Chinese university last year for three months, and they thrived on the local food. If I were in China, I'd probably eat local stuff (except I'd only drink bottled water), but it's the stuff that gets exported from there that I'm suspicious about. :p
Araraukar
12-11-2007, 02:58
:rolleyes: yea im sure GHB(date rape drug) in childrens toys (Aquadots)that have injured children worldwide is a US government plot to make China look bad.

Ehh... link to a reliable news site on this? I've only heard of there being lead-based colours used in kids' toys (poisonous in their own right, but a far cry from GHB).
Araraukar
12-11-2007, 02:59
You know the evil corporations you guys keep bashing? They went to china to avoid safety regs.

And India and Uruguay and Argentina, and trying to go to Thailand and any other country desperate enough for Western investments. >_>
Bann-ed
12-11-2007, 03:01
Ehh... link to a reliable news site on this? I've only heard of there being lead-based colours used in kids' toys (poisonous in their own right, but a far cry from GHB).

There was a thread on this a few days ago...I would look for it, but I am too lazy.
Try this. (www.google.ca)
Zayun
12-11-2007, 03:02
Why is it that no one in the media ever gives a (recalled goods/total goods) ratio of China. Because it's probably less than most countries, that's why. And even if it is more than some other countries, I can guarantee you that you'll get one small decimal.
Katganistan
12-11-2007, 03:05
Ehh... link to a reliable news site on this? I've only heard of there being lead-based colours used in kids' toys (poisonous in their own right, but a far cry from GHB).

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/08/toy.recall/index.html
Araraukar
12-11-2007, 03:05
There was a thread on this a few days ago...I would look for it, but I am too lazy.

Too late at night for me to have brain power to think of fitting search words for Google... :D
Katganistan
12-11-2007, 03:09
Then look above your post.
Araraukar
12-11-2007, 03:17
Then look above your post.

Thankies, I'll check the link. For some reason your post hadn't shown up when I added mine... -_-

EDIT: From the news post at the other end of the link:

Melbourne-based Moose Enterprise Pty. Ltd. recalled Bindeez Beads on Tuesday after three children in Australia swallowed large quantities of the beads and were hospitalized.

I have to say that any kid swallowing 'large quantities' of ANY kinds of beads, would probably be hospitalized... and the location for this recall (USA and Australia) explains why I hadn't heard anything of it... didn't exactly make breaking news over here. :)
Jenrak
12-11-2007, 05:05
You know, not all food from China is poisonous or lackluster. Try not to generalize.

Though, why are you buying fish from a general superstore rather than a supermarket?
Aryavartha
12-11-2007, 06:35
Who buys food at Walmart ?:eek:
Araraukar
12-11-2007, 09:10
Who buys food at Walmart ?:eek:

Suicidal ones? :confused:
Similization
12-11-2007, 09:12
Who buys food at Walmart ?:eek:People who believe their bodies are their temples and that religion must be destroyed.
Mirkai
12-11-2007, 10:38
The other day I was looking around in the fish department at the local Wal-Mart and all the fish had signs that gave the price and "product of XXXX." I notice several different types of fish said "Product of China."

There have been a lot of recalls of toys made in China and the recall on tooth paste in the not to distant past. I'm just wondering just how safe food imported from China is. What do you think?

I gauge things as being beneficial in a ratio that's proportionate to how much Lou Dobbs hates them. Using this scale, I've determined that food from China cures AIDS.