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If there was a war in your country with compulsory military service what would you do?

I'd need to know a lot more before I could come to a conclusion

For example:

What is the punishment if I refuse?
Why did the war start?
What role would I have to serve?
etc
etc

I would dance with glee because I am medically unfit for military service, as I have a high dependency on medication due to a medical condition (IGA), bad vision, slightly impaired hearing, and no sense of smell (how will I know if something is burning?) Hence, I would be...USELESS! I would not have to serve!

I would go over to the enemy. We would be toasted anyway. :D

If there was a war in your country with compulsory military service what would you do?

I'd probably join the army and try to get rid of the enemy who is trying to interfere with my life. Except when it's a war with the Belgians, then I'd just point and laugh :D

If I felt that there was a real threat to my nation, in which that enemy was the aggressor, I'd gladly fight for my country. But if I felt that the war was being used as a tool to further a political agenda, or in which my country was the aggressor, I would refuse to serve (regardless of the consequences).

I would dance with glee because I am medically unfit for military service, as I have a high dependency on medication due to a medical condition (IGA), bad vision, slightly impaired hearing, and no sense of smell (how will I know if something is burning?) Hence, I would be...USELESS! I would not have to serve!

Congratulations!

You are now a private in the MeatShield Brigade! You will be armed with a potato and a carrot. Good luck, soldier!

I would probably behave oddly. *nod*

I would probably behave oddly. *nod*

So basically, no different. :p

So basically, no different. :p

My tinker with a working formula? :)

First: I would attempt to gain status as a conscientious objector, unless I agreed with the war very strongly.
Failing that, I'd apply for OCS. The armed forces need officers, after all, so there'd be a decent chance.
Failing THAT, I'd be so "unfit" at boot camp that they'd have to send me home. (Yeah, yeah. You can say all you want about courage and whatnot, but I'm not planning on being a grunt in some war I don't agree with in the first place)

Congratulations!

You are now a private in the MeatShield Brigade! You will be armed with a potato and a carrot. Good luck, soldier!

Hey. wait... I'm also a girl...doesn't that count as a disability in military terms? :p

If I agreed with the war and there was a real threat to my country than I would proudly fight for the glorius nation of Canada if, not then I would seek Conscientious objector status.

Well, for a start, I would refuse to be drafted. I might volunteer, if I felt the war was justified enough. If necessary, however, I would move to Switzerland for the duration.

As I see the right to risk my life for my country, or to refuse to do so, as a fundamental right, I would refuse any draft outright. I would also be perfectly willing to fight out the case in any and all courts.

If there was compulsory military service in your country

There is. I was exempted. Come a war (highly unlikely in these parts, thankfully), I have a job "crucial to the normal working of society" so I would not be called in.

If there was compulsory military service in your country

There is. I was exempted. Come a war (highly unlikely in these parts, thankfully), I have a job "crucial to the normal working of society" so I would not be called in.

What's your job?

Also, I'd not fight for my country. I owe it nothing.

Hey. wait... I'm also a girl...doesn't that count as a disability in military terms? :p

What about equal rights?

Sign up for the Air Force before my number is called because they don't see much ground combat.

I might also have a place in R&D, I've got some pretty crazy ideas for both new weapons and improved versions of existing weapons.

I'd laugh at all the silly people getting conscripted as I boss them round and abuse my power

Hence, I would be...USELESS!

since when has that stopped anyone :p

Just call me Mr. Conscientious Objector.

Just call me Private Conscientious Objector.

corrected for discipline *waits for you toilet duties to come up so I can make a mess in the urinal*

corrected for discipline *waits for you toilet duties to come up so I can make a mess in the urinal*
Never!

Where's my white feather?!

I would, go traveling and see the world (and blowing it up at the same time yay =D)

Emigrate, probably. I am too old to be conscripted anyway.

(Besides, what is the chance of Brazil going to war? A party - yes, a football match - yes, the beach - definitely, war - not likely)

Never acceptable under any circumstance, ever, no exceptions, ever.

And I'd rather kill myself than die for my government. But I wouldn't kill myself, I'd just go to a country without a draft.

If i got called up for compulsory military service, and if i didn't agree with the war, due to been to University and done my degree, and that of further education at University.

It mean that under British Military Law that i could only serve as a Officer, so i just join the Army, be based at Officer Training Course, hopefully Sandhurst, for a year.
Then one the day of pass out, if war still occuring and i still against it. I would hit that of the commandant of the Academy, a Major General. If unsure about the war, i just apply for that of a position in the Military Intelligence Corps.

If assulted Commandant, i be quickly sentenced to Military Training Corrective Centre in Colchester "Colchester Glasshouse", for assaulting a senior officer, then get dishonourable discharge after serving my sentence in Colchester.

If i got called up for compulsory military service, and if i didn't agree with the war, due to been to University and done my degree, and that of further education at University.

It mean that under British Military Law that i could only serve as a Officer, so i just join the Army, be based at Officer Training Course, hopefully Sandhurst, for a year.
Then one the day of pass out, if war still occuring and i still against it. I would hit that of the commandant of the Academy, a Major General. If unsure about the war, i just apply for that of a position in the Military Intelligence Corps.

If assulted Commandant, i be quickly sentenced to Military Training Corrective Centre in Colchester "Colchester Glasshouse", for assaulting a senior officer, then get dishonourable discharge after serving my sentence in Colchester.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that your degree isn't in English.

I'd gladly fight for my country. Luckily everyone loves the U.S. and we never get into wars without a good reason so the odds of me actually going to war would be slim to none. But if the day ever came that we reconquered Cuba I'd be first on the bandwagon. (Ok so a lot of the above is sarcasm but I would fight for my country whether I supported the war or not even though I don't believe in conscription.)

I would refuse to get drafted, and go to jail instead of fight in order to make a statement. If the war was just, I might enlist, but I would never allow myself to be drafted.

I'll take a position in a military research lab, thus already working for the government, and since education is rather costly, why waste my abilities to point a gun and shoot (with my terrible eyesight, heeeeeello friendly fire) when I can work on Teh Lazors?

I wouldn't mind doing peacekeeping type work. But I would go with artillery, engineers or signals to minimize my chances of death via hail of hot lead.

Which wouldn't be too fun.

What about equal rights?

I thought rights ended at the military's doorstep? As, you have the right to shut the fuck up maggot! :D

since when has that stopped anyone :p

Well... I'm not a Republican so... ;)

Oooh, new plan.

If I couldn't get conscientious objector status and I didn't strongly agree with the war....

I'd claim to be gay. (Assuming that bullshit "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" law doesn't get repealed.)

I'm crippled, I can't fight for my country if I wanted to. :D

Emigrate, probably. I am too old to be conscripted anyway.

(Besides, what is the chance of Brazil going to war? A party - yes, a football match - yes, the beach - definitely, war - not likely)

Especialmente por termos o Art. 84, Inciso 19. Guerra, só em caso de agressão estrangeira.

I'm crippled, I can't fight for my country if I wanted to. :D

I'm also exempt.

Just enlist in the army grudgingly, then become a double agent working for the enemy! Easy way to get revenge!

If there was a war in your country with compulsory military service what would you do?

I would GTFO.
And fast.

Just enlist in the army grudgingly, then become a double agent working for the enemy! Easy way to get revenge!

Also an easy way to get hanged as a traitor. Oh well it's still better than being hanged as a telemarketer.

Oooh, new plan.

If I couldn't get conscientious objector status and I didn't strongly agree with the war....

I'd claim to be gay. (Assuming that bullshit "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" law doesn't get repealed.)

Now-a-days they want proof, ie::fluffle: except a lot lower and a lot harder ( or softer which ever you prefer)

Also an easy way to get hanged as a traitor. Oh well it's still better than being hanged as a telemarketer.



Now-a-days they want proof, ie::fluffle: except a lot lower and a lot harder ( or softer which ever you prefer)

Nah, there've been soldiers dishonorably discharged for the contents of their love-letters. I'd be good. :p

Since I am a 42 year old woman, the chances anyone would want to draft me are pretty slim, but if they did, and handed me a gun, I would hand it back to them. If they tried to send me somewhere that shooting was going on, I would decline to go. If they tried to charge me with a crime for NOT wanting to kill complete strangers or be killed by them, I would fight it in court loudly, and with passion, and become a cause celebre. If they threw me in prison, I would become a compassionate leader for the other prisoners in the same situation in our struggle to change the laws that put us there. I would write a book about my experiences which would become an overnight best seller and would be turned into such a powerful movie that everyone would weep at the sound of my name.

The fact that National Service entirely ruined the British economy in the 1950s/60s, I severly doubt we will be seeing it again any time soon - unless the British National Party get into power, who apparently wish to see a return to such a thing, as well as issuing everyone who goes through such a thing with an assault rifle to take home.

I can't see that happening, as the British Army has problems with issuing regular, volunteer soldiers with the proper gear, as well as the fact that the SA80/L85A2 is a piece of shite (we ought to have stuck with the EM2!).

However, were I packed off somewhere as a soldier (and I hope as the infantry) I would do my duty, rather than anything else.

I would dance with glee because I am medically unfit for military service, as I have a high dependency on medication due to a medical condition (IGA), bad vision, slightly impaired hearing, and no sense of smell (how will I know if something is burning?) Hence, I would be...USELESS! I would not have to serve!

Have you seen what's happening to military service standards these days?

You'd serve, but your pre-existing medical conditions would make you ineligible for medical care.

I'd like to see conscription again but with totally different rules.
Everyone gets conscripted with the exception of those who're too mentally deficient to understand how to function as a human.
Some people are cut out to be warriors, others are not. People will have the option of serving in non-combat roles for a period triple the time of the warriors.
All citizens will be members of the reserve until retirement age.
There will be no use of military force/foreign incursions except in cases of direct threat to the U.S.

If there was a justified war, like if somebody was invading us or something, I'd sign up.

Not for this one though, and if there was compulsory service, I'd refuse to serve.

If there was a war in your country with compulsory military service what would you do?
I am too old for regular military service, but I have experience with firing a Howitzer and an FNC1 rifle. Depending on the circumstances, I would do whatever I could to assist my country, friends and loved ones.

I think I'd be except from conscription since I have type 1 diabetes; so yeah, and I'd probably use my excempt status to speak out against conscription...

Me and my leftist buddies would go an molotov a government building and generally cause mayhem for the establishment.

If the government which claims to run the place where I inhabit decides to attack another government by attempting to enslave me, of course I'm not going to fight for the government. To do so is immoral and strengthens their ability to engage in mass murder.

In such a circumstance, the only justifiable options are to a) flee or b) stay and defend yourself. Other options besides going and fighting to help the government murder foreigners would include getting "conscientious objector" status, which usually means that you have to be the government's slave at home or just refusing to go and being attacked by the government or trying to fight against the government's actions in the government's courts, none of which make any sense.

You must either get out of the territory claimed by the government in question or choose to stay behind and defend yourself (which is impossible if the government has passed victim disarmament laws).

There is no such thing as a just war waged by government. The only just war is one waged against criminal gangs such as government in which the targets are absolutely limited to criminals.

Me and my leftist buddies would go an molotov a government building and generally cause mayhem for the establishment.

And then you would be shot dead on scene and have accomplished nothing.

And then you would be shot dead on scene and have accomplished nothing.

You don't seem to understand covert action friend, and resisting the call to become meatshields for a capitalist war of profit is not what I would call 'accomplished nothing'. At some point simply words in opposition are not enough, you have to take action; I spose you don't understand that concept though.

And then you would be shot dead on scene and have accomplished nothing.

Who knows? They might become martyrs.

these are entirely seperate questions.

i can tell you what i did do though.

this was during viet nam, when american males over the age of 18 were being universally drafted if they lacked sufficient resources for deferment.

i joined the least likely to see direct personal combat as a noncom branch of the military service, the air force. i joined as a cco: cooperative conscientious objectior. a status available at the time. it didn't guarantee you wouldn't see combat. no military honestly guarantees anything, however much they might pretend to.

but you know, i joined singing alice's restaurant and i left, honorable discharge in hand, singing the same tune, and proud of it.

now the thing is, they had this program called inactive reserves, which i think they actually created so they could keep you from being snatched from them by the army before they could slot you in. so i got to set at home in that status for a month before actually heading for basic.

i suppose it helped that i had rather high percentile scores in certain aptitude areas, that was also part of the recrutement proccess at the time.

i would have prefered, and still think i would be prouder to have, emigrated to canada. but i'd never left mommy and daddy's house yet and just plane didn't have the balls to face the big bad world on my own.

so joining the airforce was the alternative available to me.

at any rate it worked. they didn't want to keep me any longer then i wanted to stay. and they never did send me out of the states either.

oh yah, my afs was ecm. my time in service was 2 years 2 months and 1 day. just long enough to not ever have to worry about getting drafted again.

how i got kicked out, but with an HONORABLE, is another long story for another time.

(and yes, i did get to use some of my g.i. educational bennifits. the v.a. was always a day late and a dollar short with them, but they did help out the times when they did eventually come through).

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Emmigrate before they draft me or if it turns out I'd be medically exempt or something(because why would I stay put when we're getting invaded?). If 'teh enemy' was some manner of huge super evil thing, then I might consider volunteering my way into a post that won't see much/any actual combat but still helps defeat the huge super evil enemy. I'm terribly allergic to high velocity pieces of metal, you see.

You don't seem to understand covert action friend, and resisting the call to become meatshields for a capitalist war of profit is not what I would call 'accomplished nothing'. At some point simply words in opposition are not enough, you have to take action; I spose you don't understand that concept though.

Your whole answer is pretty poor. The situation in the OP isn't well defined. How do you know this is a war for profit? Let's just say hypothetically that the war is one where some outside force is invading your country and plans to convert you to well lets say "widgetism" or some other ideology or religion?

Would it be some "capitalist war of profit" then? You're answer was assuming too much.

Now as for your plan of action, it is not a proper way to oppose a war. What you are doing is no different from the delinquents who put stink bombs in the girls bathroom in middle school. You can try to sneak around all you want, but given the extra vigilance during war, you would likely get caught and then be SOL. Tell me, would it be worth it? Oh wow, you burned down some stupid municipal building that no one gave a rats ass about. What ever shall we do? That will cripple all of Australia.

Who knows? They might become martyrs.

Even so, would it be worth it?

Martyrdom in its true form is a beautiful thing. This isn't martyrdom. Martyrdom is when Ghandi got assassinated or Lincoln. They were martyrs.

This is just juvenile delinquency taken to a new level.

Martyrdom in its true form is a beautiful thing.What? No one that's tried it out for themselves would say something like that.

If there was a war in your country with compulsory military service what would you do?

Emmigrate.

I'd walk into the assesment office wearing a newspaper folded into a hat, with a hobby horse between my legs shouting:" Where is the enema ! ", if that doesnt get me a section 8, i don't know what will :D