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The Senate just voted 79-14 to override President Bush's veto of a water projects bill. This is the first time Congress has overridden one of Bush's vetoes.

Can't wait to see how Bush reacts.

Link to CNN article (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/08/congress.water/index.html)

The Senate just voted 79-14 to override President Bush's veto of a water projects bill. This is the first time Congress has overridden one of Bush's vetoes.

Can't wait to see how Bush reacts.

Link to CNN article (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/08/congress.water/index.html)

I'm guessing there'll be some pouting. He's not used to not getting his way.

The Senate just voted 79-14 to override President Bush's veto of a water projects bill. This is the first time Congress has overridden one of Bush's vetoes.


They're shooting at a lame duck, however HOORAY!

Well lets wait to see what happens. If the bill is spent wisely then all is good and Congress did something right. If however the bill gets pissed away wouldn't Bush have a reason to say "Told you so"?

I bet negative five dollars that he shuts down congress, because they are aiding the terrorists, since they are going against his desires.:rolleyes:

Well, I'm proud of Congress for doing something right. And if they want to make budgetary cuts, we could always pull out of Iraq...

Well, I'm proud of Congress for doing something right. And if they want to make budgetary cuts, we could always pull out of Iraq...

Or stop planning that nonsense of a radar in Czech Republic.

Well, I'm proud of Congress for doing something right. And if they want to make budgetary cuts, we could always pull out of Iraq...

Yea, Congress hasn't done Budgetary cuts in a looonnngggg time.

Who the fuck is he to talk about fiscal responsibility?!?

It's like getting a lesson in gun safety from Seung-Hui Cho. :rolleyes:

Well, I'm proud of Congress for doing something right. And if they want to make budgetary cuts, we could always pull out of Iraq...

Give me seven reasons why we should pull out and after you get done with that then i want you to tell me if that would be good for everyone... I do not agree with us being there but now, if we pulled out iraq would fall, their political structure(if they have one). It's just not cool.

Good and let us not turn this into an iraq war debate please.

Give me seven reasons why we should pull out and after you get done with that then i want you to tell me if that would be good for everyone... I do not agree with us being there but now, if we pulled out iraq would fall, their political structure(if they have one). It's just not cool.

I really hope a world leader argues against withdrawal from Iraq with the words "C'mon guys it's just not cool"

That would definitely make my day :D

Anyone find this little snibbit a tad bit... ironic?

But, White House spokeswoman Emily Lawrimore said in the statement, "It's obvious that the bill doesn't make difficult choices and doesn't set spending priorities. We don't believe it's a responsible way to budget."

Pot calling the kettle black, anyone?

It's all about pork. This bill has the support to override the veto because each member wants their own little bit of the other white meat to take home.

Let's see Congress pass a budget bill.

I really hope a world leader argues against withdrawal from Iraq with the words "C'mon guys it's just not cool"

That would definitely make my day :D

War is.. harsh, man!

It's all about pork. This bill has the support to override the veto because each member wants their own little bit of the other white meat to take home.

Let's see Congress pass a budget bill.

The fiscal responsibility shtick is kind of impossible to take seriously at this point.

The fiscal responsibility shtick is kind of impossible to take seriously at this point.

I don't care who does it, pork in spending bills is killing us. Someone has to stop first. Why can't it be the party that just won the election?

I don't care who does it, pork in spending bills is killing us. Someone has to stop first. Why can't it be the party that just won the election?

So much for that Campaign promise!

"You should respect the Senate, the House, the Congress and American people because we are elected, too," Boxer said. "We are close to the people. We know what their needs are."

I don't remember the election voting me in, but I'm sure I won by a huge majority.

"You should respect the Senate, the House, the Congress and American people because we are elected, too," Boxer said. "We are close to the people. We know what their needs are."

I don't remember the election voting me in, but I'm sure I won by a huge majority.

I voted for Mr. Potato Head. *nod*

I don't care who does it, pork in spending bills is killing us. Someone has to stop first. Why can't it be the party that just won the election?

Pork is a non-issue inflated into issuehood because people don't want to make politically painful cuts.

Pork is a non-issue inflated into issuehood because people don't want to make politically painful cuts.
I'm not sure how you can say that. Even one or two percent of a multi-billion dollars spending bill can add up to some real money when it's done time after time and year after year.

You'd think, given the clear problems with water infrastructure in high-profile places and the need for additional investment to bring it up to standards, that Bush would approve something like this. No, instead, he vetoes it...where the hell was that jackass when Congress passed that massive prescription drug program bribe that will cost us a fortune down the road?

The two things he vetoed were actually useful, whereas the things he didn't veto in his first six years have resulted in some of the biggest expansions of the US government and largest deficits in history. And people wonder why this moron is so universally loathed...

You'd think, given the clear problems with water infrastructure in high-profile places and the need for additional investment to bring it up to standards, that Bush would approve something like this. No, instead, he vetoes it...where the hell was that jackass when Congress passed that massive prescription drug program bribe that will cost us a fortune down the road?

The two things he vetoed were actually useful, whereas the things he didn't veto in his first six years have resulted in some of the biggest expansions of the US government and largest deficits in history. And people wonder why this moron is so universally loathed...
It was HIS massive drug bribe program. Where was Congress to vote against it?

Seriously, the WRDA may do a few useful things, but the added "earmarks" are nothing but vote buying -- Dem and Rep alike -- but still money that didn't NEED to be spent.

It was HIS massive drug bribe program. Where was Congress to vote against it?

Seriously, the WRDA may do a few useful things, but the added "earmarks" are nothing but vote buying -- Dem and Rep alike -- but still money that didn't NEED to be spent.

It wouldn't need to be spent if we properly maintained our water infrastructure in the first place...of course, we should have just opened up the project to private firms rather than keep it in house.

Now the terrormongers will win.
Congress....you have doomed us all.

Now the terrormongers will win.
Congress....you have doomed us all.But if the terrormongers win, then the US would win, right?

Ok, so I am confused.

Until the time I say this thread, I thought really the whole power of a President was that he had a veto, the ability to unpass any passed bill.

But congress can override the veto?

Ok, so I am confused.

Until the time I say this thread, I thought really the whole power of a President was that he had a veto, the ability to unpass any passed bill.

But congress can override the veto?

Yep. Congress can override a presidential veto if 2/3rds of both House AND Senate vote yes to override it.

Yep. Congress can override a presidential veto if 2/3rds of both House AND Senate vote yes to override it.Crickey.

It wouldn't need to be spent if we properly maintained our water infrastructure in the first place...of course, we should have just opened up the project to private firms rather than keep it in house.
You'll never get an argument from on that one. But there's plenty of crap in the bill. Look at this...

Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has an earmark for the re-development of the San Francisco Waterfront in her hometown. Republican Sen. John Warner of Virginia, meanwhile, scored $325 million for a marine terminal in his state while he was serving on the special WRDA conference committee.

This is NOT the purpose of the WRDA. Just like the "bridge to nowhere" was not the purpose of the Highway bill. Just like most earmarks aren't the purpose of any spending bill. Let's hold Congress accountable for how they spend OUR money!