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If glenn beck were president..

Kontor
08-11-2007, 01:45
The good ol' U.S of A would be in much much much better shape.
Infinite Revolution
08-11-2007, 01:47
i wouldn't know who the hell he was and i'd be wondering when my country became a republic.
Bitchkitten
08-11-2007, 01:47
NSG, still attracting new idiots. Makes me happy.
Loch Inferior
08-11-2007, 01:49
NSG, still attracting new idiots. Makes me happy.

:(
Kontor
08-11-2007, 01:49
NSG, still attracting new idiots. Makes me happy.

You know what they say, takes one to know one.
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 01:50
You know what they say, takes one to know one.
And that would be why you're a fan of Glenn Beck? (hehe, riposte.)
Bitchkitten
08-11-2007, 01:53
You know what they say, takes one to know one.Look at join date- I can't be a new idiot.:p



Nice admission, btw.
Agerias
08-11-2007, 01:55
If glenn beck were president..
We'd all be dead. And then die again.
Zayun
08-11-2007, 02:04
We'd all be dead. And then die again.

Well, if by we, you mean we Muslims, then you'd be correct. I couldn't stand having that asshole as president. How the fuck can anyone like him? Let me repeat that, HOW THE FUCK CAN ANYONE LIKE HIM?
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 02:10
Well, if by we, you mean we Muslims, then you'd be correct. I couldn't stand having that asshole as president. How the fuck can anyone like him? Let me repeat that, HOW THE FUCK CAN ANYONE LIKE HIM?

I'm not a Muslim, but I would definitely jump out a window if Glenn Beck became president, and then rise from the dead, stagger upstairs, and jump again, just to be sure.
The Cat-Tribe
08-11-2007, 02:12
The good ol' U.S of A would be in much much much better shape.

pray tell, why?

I know nothing about the man other than what is on Wikipedia, but he doesn't seem like an improvement to me. To the contrary, he seems like a step in the wrong direction -- and that is saying something given the current administration.
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 02:17
pray tell, why?

I know nothing about the man other than what is on Wikipedia, but he doesn't seem like an improvement to me. To the contrary, he seems like a step in the wrong direction -- and that is saying something given the current administration.
Glenn Beck is a two-bit huckster, a radio talk-show host, and a chattering little media clown. If he became president, that presidency would indeed be a disaster, but since people would have to vote for him to become president --- well, that nightmare scenario is what would make me jump out that window, more than Mr. Beck himself.
Kontor
08-11-2007, 02:22
Well, if by we, you mean we Muslims, then you'd be correct. I couldn't stand having that asshole as president. How the fuck can anyone like him? Let me repeat that, HOW THE FUCK CAN ANYONE LIKE HIM?

Does the koran allow muslims to use profanities? What a lovely religion you have.
Zayun
08-11-2007, 02:22
I'm not a Muslim, but I would definitely jump out a window if Glenn Beck became president, and then rise from the dead, stagger upstairs, and jump again, just to be sure.

We can all have one giant suicide party...
Kontor
08-11-2007, 02:23
We can all have one giant suicide party...

The world would be a better place without you guys. So please, jump away.
Zayun
08-11-2007, 02:26
Does the koran allow muslims to use profanities? What a lovely religion you have.

True, it is not good to curse. But I have never claimed to be perfect.
Kontor
08-11-2007, 02:26
How kind of you

I know, im just a ball of love arn't I.
Zayun
08-11-2007, 02:27
The world would be a better place without you guys. So please, jump away.

How kind of you
Zayun
08-11-2007, 02:30
I know, im just a ball of love arn't I.

Just like Glenn Beck
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 02:31
Does the koran allow muslims to use profanities? What a lovely religion you have.

The world would be a better place without you guys. So please, jump away.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you....Glenn Beck's audience.
Kontor
08-11-2007, 02:32
Just like Glenn Beck

If that made any sence at all I would answer.
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 02:33
If that made any sence at all I would answer.
It's spelled "sense."
Aqua Anu
08-11-2007, 02:35
Beck wouldn't be bad at all. He's very sensible, more than half the lawmakers in Congress now. That goes for all parties. The only one worse would be Anne Coulter
Zayun
08-11-2007, 02:36
If that made any sence at all I would answer.

It made sense, but I agree it did not make sence.
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 02:38
Beck wouldn't be bad at all. He's very sensible, more than half the lawmakers in Congress now. That goes for all parties. The only one worse would be Anne Coulter

He's a clown! A talking head, a dancing bear, a dog wearing an outfit and walking on its hind legs to funny music. How did my fellow Americans get their heads stuck so far up their asses that they actually think that radio shock-jocks have political skills?
Kontor
08-11-2007, 03:32
He's a clown! A talking head, a dancing bear, a dog wearing an outfit and walking on its hind legs to funny music. How did my fellow Americans get their heads stuck so far up their asses that they actually think that radio shock-jocks have political skills?

I could (and do) say the same thing about liberal bloggers. Bloggers like you, and in fact ARE you.
The Cat-Tribe
08-11-2007, 03:34
I could (and do) say the same thing about liberal bloggers. Bloggers like you, and in fact ARE you.

Are you going to answer my question or are you merely about flaming and flamebaiting?
The Cat-Tribe
08-11-2007, 03:41
Beck wouldn't be bad at all. He's very sensible, more than half the lawmakers in Congress now. That goes for all parties. The only one worse would be Anne Coulter

You confuse me. Your first two sentence don't agree with your last sentence. Is Beck good or is he just not as bad as Anne Coulter?
Zayun
08-11-2007, 03:47
You confuse me. Your first two sentence don't agree with your last sentence. Is Beck good or is he just not as bad as Anne Coulter?

I think what's being said is that Glenn would do better then most of the people in Congress right now, and at the very least is better than Ann Coulter (which is perhaps the first thing in Beck's defense that I can agree with).
Lace Minnow
08-11-2007, 03:55
He's a clown! A talking head, a dancing bear, a dog wearing an outfit and walking on its hind legs to funny music. How did my fellow Americans get their heads stuck so far up their asses that they actually think that radio shock-jocks have political skills?
Who is Glenn Beck? I never have heard of him.
Zayun
08-11-2007, 04:04
Who is Glenn Beck? I never have heard of him.

Exactly, he's not that great. You probably wouldn't be any happier if you heard him anyways.
Kontor
08-11-2007, 06:08
Are you going to answer my question or are you merely about flaming and flamebaiting?

What question? You had no questions you just insulted him.
The Cat-Tribe
08-11-2007, 06:12
pray tell, why?

I know nothing about the man other than what is on Wikipedia, but he doesn't seem like an improvement to me. To the contrary, he seems like a step in the wrong direction -- and that is saying something given the current administration.

What question? You had no questions you just insulted him.

My question was why you think "If glenn beck were president..
The good ol' U.S of A would be in much much much better shape."?

I'm still wondering.
Kontor
08-11-2007, 06:16
My question was why you think "If glenn beck were president..
The good ol' U.S of A would be in much much much better shape."?

I'm still wondering.

Because we would get some things done, mainly slow down illegal immigration alot.

Edit: It would be impossible to stop it altogether but we could really slow it down and kickout alot of the ones here.
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 06:31
I could (and do) say the same thing about liberal bloggers. Bloggers like you, and in fact ARE you.
Silly person. I am not the blogisphere. And kindly point out where in this thread I said anything positive about liberal or lefist sound-bite monkeys? Hm? Quote me. I'll wait.
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 06:32
Are you going to answer my question or are you merely about flaming and flamebaiting?
I vote for option 2.

EDIT: Basis for my vote:

1 - The OP failed to even provide us a link to any of Glenn Beck's shows or articles, indicating a lack of serious intent to discuss the man's merits.

2 - The OP lost no time launching minor, unprovoked attacks against a Muslim poster.

3 - The OP has been quick to (try to) insult other posters as well, such as you and me, but he has had almost nothing to say about Glenn Beck.
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 06:37
Who is Glenn Beck? I never have heard of him.

Judge for yourself:

This from him:
http://www.glennbeck.com/home/index.shtml

This from some of his critics:
http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/people/glennbeck


EDIT:
PS: The OP owes me $10.00 (arbitrary service fee) for looking up and posting the link to his topic for him.
Garbanzobeenia
08-11-2007, 06:43
nothing would change...he is just more establishment claptrap...
Eureka Australis
08-11-2007, 06:45
He's that racist Islamophobe anti-communist (etc etc etc) right?

Why exactly would you want him as President?
Kontor
08-11-2007, 06:47
I vote for option 2.

EDIT: Basis for my vote:

1 - The OP failed to even provide us a link to any of Glenn Beck's shows or articles, indicating a lack of serious intent to discuss the man's merits.

2 - The OP lost no time launching minor, unprovoked attacks against a Muslim poster.

3 - The OP has been quick to (try to) insult other posters as well, such as you and me, but he has had almost nothing to say about Glenn Beck.

1-I did answer his question.
2-I was just curious as to why a "religious" person would scream profanities.
3-I wasn't aware that I needed to post links, but if that is what you want...
Kontor
08-11-2007, 06:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtG7-0mKG4c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAaBgMmSrJo
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 06:57
1-I did answer his question.
No you didn't.

2-I was just curious as to why a "religious" person would scream profanities.
A) It's not your business. I'm sort of religious, too, but I swear like a drunken sailor, because I like to. I don't have to answer to you for my manners, and neither does he.

B) What about your second remark about how much better the world would be if he and all his kind died?

3-I wasn't aware that I needed to post links, but if that is what you want...
Too late, I already did it for you. You owe me $10.00 for my time.
Zilam
08-11-2007, 06:58
Forget that. I'd rather be raped by a horse than have Glen Beck as my president. I might assassinate myself, just to end the pain.
Kontor
08-11-2007, 07:31
No you didn't.


A) It's not your business. I'm sort of religious, too, but I swear like a drunken sailor, because I like to. I don't have to answer to you for my manners, and neither does he.

B) What about your second remark about how much better the world would be if he and all his kind died?


Too late, I already did it for you. You owe me $10.00 for my time.

Yes I did look again. If you use that logic I don't have to answer to you so I can post what I want. I was more thinking along the lines of fanatical lefties than muslims, anyway you said you would rather die, I was agreeing with you.

Edit: Why on earth would I owe you 10 bucks? Just because you went out of your way to post means nothing to me.
Kontor
08-11-2007, 07:39
On a side note which of these songs do you like better? I like both of them about the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7U6BIFrcHUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pavbnb9rD6Y
Krissland
08-11-2007, 08:14
How so? He is nothing but a opinion spouting talk show host. I don't want any talk show hosts or celebrities running my government. You hear that California!
Gartref
08-11-2007, 08:24
Ohh! That's who Glenn Beck is!

My first impression is that he seems to be an ignorant, arrogant douche-nozzle.

I can see why Bush supporters would like to see him as President... It would be staying the course.
Siriusa
08-11-2007, 08:26
Eek!
Zilam
08-11-2007, 08:51
Ohh! That's who Glenn Beck is!

My first impression is that he seems to be an ignorant, arrogant douche-nozzle.

I can see why Bush supporters would like to see him as President... It would be staying the course.

Glen Beck was shit out by the collective assholes of the Bush administration. Fortunately, he isn't as big a pile of shit nor as smelly, as anyone on Faux Noize.

Seriously, he said that we should go to pakistan and kill every "radical". Radical by who's definition? If its by Musharraf's, it would mean anyone besides Musharraf, and I am sure Becky pooh would enjoy all those dead brownies. That scumbag.
Pacificville
08-11-2007, 09:03
We'd all be dead. And then die again.

If Glenn Beck was president, I'd be careful.

YOU'LL BE DEAD!
Eureka Australis
08-11-2007, 10:40
If Glenn Beck was president, I'd be careful.

YOU'LL BE DEAD!

/barscene
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 17:53
Yes I did look again.
Your remark did not qualify as an answer, in my opinion.

If you use that logic I don't have to answer to you so I can post what I want. I was more thinking along the lines of fanatical lefties than muslims, anyway you said you would rather die, I was agreeing with you.
Really? Because it just looked like you were being hostile.

Edit: Why on earth would I owe you 10 bucks? Just because you went out of your way to post means nothing to me.
Cheap bastard. Catch me saving your threads for you again.
Muravyets
08-11-2007, 17:55
How so? He is nothing but a opinion spouting talk show host. I don't want any talk show hosts or celebrities running my government. You hear that California!
Seconded!! Thank you.
Bitchkitten
08-11-2007, 18:20
I'm so glad my snap judgement on our n00b is proving to be 100% correct.
Trotskylvania
08-11-2007, 18:24
It'd be revolution time, baby!
Aryavartha
08-11-2007, 18:38
I can hear about two syllables from him b4 I flip the channel.
Pirated Corsairs
08-11-2007, 18:39
You know what they say, takes one to know one.
Maddox, I choose you!
It takes one to know one:
[warning: possibly offensive content. highlight at your own discretion]

Ever call someone a whore only to be countered with the bullet-proof come back: "well it takes one to know one"? You're basically saying "yes, I spread my legs for money, as do you." Good job Ms. Rotten-crotch, you've rebuked nothing. What difference does it make if the person calling you a slut is one as well? You're still a skanky bitch who charges money for hand jobs--and why the hell are you charging for a hand job anyway? Unless all your clients are paralyzed, any prostitute caught charging someone for a hand job should be sued for extortion. That's another reason prostitution should be legal: you can't really sue a prostitute for extortion if prostitution is illegal now can you wise ass?
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood

Does the koran allow muslims to use profanities? What a lovely religion you have.

Like yours is so much better. :rolleyes: Why don't you go stone some gays/adulterers/people-who-work-on-the-sabbath and beat some of the slaves (as long as you don't kill them, of course!) that the Bible says you can have?

Also, Glenn Beck is an asshole, and I cannot understand why anybody would like him.
The_pantless_hero
08-11-2007, 18:45
I have no idea who Glenn Beck is though I recognize the name. Having no idea who he is may stem from the fact every time I heard "Glenn Beck," I think Jiminy Glick.
UN Protectorates
08-11-2007, 19:10
BTW, for anyone who's interested, here's Glenn Beck's completely unbiased and totally truthful guide to the Middle East... :rolleyes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oCctiYhHVw
Neesika
08-11-2007, 19:20
NSG, still attracting new idiots. Makes me happy.

But no gunsmiley first post...awww....
IL Ruffino
08-11-2007, 21:04
The good ol' U.S of A would be in much much much better shape.

You're on crack.
Kontor
08-11-2007, 21:52
Ohh! That's who Glenn Beck is!

My first impression is that he seems to be an ignorant, arrogant douche-nozzle.

I can see why Bush supporters would like to see him as President... It would be staying the course.

I don't like bush, he spends like a liberal and he gives up on almost every important issue (like illegal immigration).
Kontor
08-11-2007, 21:57
Your remark did not qualify as an answer, in my opinion.


Really? Because it just looked like you were being hostile.


Cheap bastard. Catch me saving your threads for you again.

LOOKs like your the one being hostile. Yes it did he asked me a question and I answered, for you dim witted out there I will say it again. I would support him because he would slow down illegal immigration and he would not be an appeaser of terrorists like you libs out there.
Intestinal fluids
08-11-2007, 22:12
I love a Pint of Glenn Beck poured in a nice frosty mug.
Kontor
08-11-2007, 22:22
I love a Pint of Glenn Beck poured in a nice frosty mug.

You should do public speaking, you could win the hearts and minds of millions with your profound statment.
Sumamba Buwhan
08-11-2007, 22:29
Glenn Beck is an idiot. Sounds perfect for president the way things are going these days. It's not like we have any more credibility to lose in the eyes of the international community anyway.
Soyut
09-11-2007, 00:49
The good ol' U.S of A would be in much much much better shape.

Agreed ;)
Kontor
09-11-2007, 00:51
Agreed ;)

Hey! another conservative! I thought that I was an island of truth in a sea of wackos. Glad to know im not alone.:)
Zayun
09-11-2007, 00:57
Because we would get some things done, mainly slow down illegal immigration alot.

Edit: It would be impossible to stop it altogether but we could really slow it down and kickout alot of the ones here.

You do realize it takes a lot of cash to deport 11 million people right? And I thought you were against excessive government spending?
Kontor
09-11-2007, 01:13
You do realize it takes a lot of cash to deport 11 million people right? And I thought you were against excessive government spending?

Maybe if we cut all those social programs you libs have in place we could afford it.
Pirated Corsairs
09-11-2007, 01:14
You do realize it takes a lot of cash to deport 11 million people right? And I thought you were against excessive government spending?

I don't think you understand.

Brown people. We must get rid of the icky brown people.
Zayun
09-11-2007, 01:22
Maybe if we cut all those social programs you libs have in place we could afford it.

Which ones? All those isn't very specific.
Trollgaard
09-11-2007, 01:27
Fuck Glen Beck. He is an ignorant prick.
Muravyets
09-11-2007, 01:34
LOOKs like your the one being [sarcastic]. Yes it did he asked me a question and I answered, for you dim witted out there I will say it again. I would support him because he would slow down illegal immigration and he would not be an appeaser of terrorists like you libs you there.
Fixed. (See bolded word.) (I guess some people really do need to be told.)
Kontor
09-11-2007, 02:37
Fuck Glen Beck. He is an ignorant prick.

I don't think you understand.

Brown people. We must get rid of the icky brown people.

TO trollgaard: And you are?

To corsairs: I have "brown friends" to use your bigoted and racist term. But the diff is they are here, get this, it will shock you, LEGALLY.
Trotskylvania
09-11-2007, 02:42
Ah, the crown prince of American reactionary statism, Glenn Beck. He holds the mantle of Right-wing hysteria passed down to him by Ann Coulter.
Kontor
09-11-2007, 02:54
Ah, the crown prince of American reactionary statism, Glenn Beck. He holds the mantle of Right-wing hysteria passed down to him by Ann Coulter.

Its true because you the great and mighty trot declares it so? Even if it is true how are you and your kind any different? You scream your same message over and over again. Ranting about communism or socialism or about how the terrorists are missunderstood and the U.S is the worst thing since death.
Trotskylvania
09-11-2007, 03:23
Its true because you the great and mighty trot declares it so? Even if it is true how are you and your kind any different? You scream your same message over and over again. Ranting about communism or socialism or about how the terrorists are missunderstood and the U.S is the worst thing since death.

Okay, let's review the facts here.

1) Glenn Beck is a big admirer of Ann Coulter, the hysterical queen of the right in America, and models much of his thought off hers.

2) Ann Coulter is a reactionary statist and hysterical demagogue

Ergo, it would follow that Glenn Beck is the Crown Prince of the Reactionary Statist right. Me being the great and mighty Trotskylvania has nothing to do with this.

How am I different you ask? Okay, first of all, I don't believe everything the state tells me. In fact, I'm cynical about everything, especially other communists.

Next, I don't have a talk show, and generally no one outside of NSG and my personal friends will ever hear, much less care, what I have to say. Even so, let's look at what I do have to say.

First of all, I'm an anarcho-syndicalist: I'm the pesky guy left of Lenin that tells the Marxists what big mistakes they going to be make, and then they ignore me and reap the whirlwind.

I do rant about terrorists being misunderstood: their motivations being misunderstood, that is. It has much more to do with American support for Middle East dictatorships and the general carpet bombing of their countries than it has to do with any "hating freedom".

Of course, since I don't think that the US government is the best thing since sliced bread, I'm going to be declared to be in league with the terrorists, and shipped off to Gitmo once the reactionary right decides to give up on having the illusion of democracy and engages a fascist coup against the constitution.

Good day to you, sir.
Kontor
09-11-2007, 03:56
Okay, let's review the facts here.

1) Glenn Beck is a big admirer of Ann Coulter, the hysterical queen of the right in America, and models much of his thought off hers.

2) Ann Coulter is a reactionary statist and hysterical demagogue

Ergo, it would follow that Glenn Beck is the Crown Prince of the Reactionary Statist right. Me being the great and mighty Trotskylvania has nothing to do with this.

How am I different you ask? Okay, first of all, I don't believe everything the state tells me. In fact, I'm cynical about everything, especially other communists.

Next, I don't have a talk show, and generally no one outside of NSG and my personal friends will ever hear, much less care, what I have to say. Even so, let's look at what I do have to say.

First of all, I'm an anarcho-syndicalist: I'm the pesky guy left of Lenin that tells the Marxists what big mistakes they going to be make, and then they ignore me and reap the whirlwind.

I do rant about terrorists being misunderstood: their motivations being misunderstood, that is. It has much more to do with American support for Middle East dictatorships and the general carpet bombing of their countries than it has to do with any "hating freedom".

Of course, since I don't think that the US government is the best thing since sliced bread, I'm going to be declared to be in league with the terrorists, and shipped off to Gitmo once the reactionary right decides to give up on having the illusion of democracy and engages a fascist coup against the constitution.

Good day to you, sir.

Mmmm, so those poor little old terrorists are justified in killing thousands of civilians and cutting off heads? Terrorists do what they do because thats what the koran wants them to do, not because the mean ol U.S government is meddlsome. It is meddlesome I know, but if we didnt stop mass murderers who would? Not the UN thats for sure look at what happened at rowanda.
Pirated Corsairs
09-11-2007, 03:59
Mmmm, so those poor little old terrorists are justified in killing thousands of civilians and cutting off heads? Terrorists do what they do because thats what the koran wants them to do, not because the mean ol U.S government is meddlsome. It is meddlesome I know, but if we didnt stop mass murderers who would? Not the UN thats for sure look at what happened at rowanda.

Saying that people misunderstand terrorists' motives != saying that they are justified. If someone's understanding of their reason is that they "hate freedom," then that person misunderstands them. Many people believe that terrorists kill because they "hate freedom." Ergo, they are misunderstood.

Is it that hard to understand, or are you just intellectually dishonest?
Trotskylvania
09-11-2007, 04:04
Mmmm, so those poor little old terrorists are justified in killing thousands of civilians and cutting off heads? Terrorists do what they do because thats what the koran wants them to do, not because the mean ol U.S government is meddlsome. It is meddlesome I know, but if we didnt stop mass murderers who would? Not the UN thats for sure look at what happened at rowanda.

Just because I said that the American public doesn't understood Muslim terrorists' motives doesn't mean that I feel that their actions are justified. Anything but.

Responding to violence with violence is self defeating, and will only in turn only beget more violence. This is why I admire Mahatma Gandhi.

All I ask is that the US stops its hypocritical support of Middle East dictatorships like Saudi Arabia. Let the Muslim radicals focus their anger against the governments that oppress the people, not the hand which props up their oppressors.
Zayun
09-11-2007, 04:49
Mmmm, so those poor little old terrorists are justified in killing thousands of civilians and cutting off heads? Terrorists do what they do because thats what the koran wants them to do, not because the mean ol U.S government is meddlsome. It is meddlesome I know, but if we didnt stop mass murderers who would? Not the UN thats for sure look at what happened at rowanda.

He's saying that people (like you) misunderstand the causes that lead to their actions. If you don't understand the root of the problem, how will you solve it? Kill everyone?

In any case, you still haven't specified which social programs you'd have eliminated to deport people.
Aggicificicerous
09-11-2007, 05:10
Mmmm, so those poor little old terrorists are justified in killing thousands of civilians and cutting off heads? Terrorists do what they do because thats what the koran wants them to do, not because the mean ol U.S government is meddlsome. It is meddlesome I know, but if we didnt stop mass murderers who would? Not the UN thats for sure look at what happened at rowanda.

You do know that the United States was the driving force in that kept the United Nations out of Rwanda?
Kontor
09-11-2007, 05:12
He's saying that people (like you) misunderstand the causes that lead to their actions. If you don't understand the root of the problem, how will you solve it? Kill everyone?

In any case, you still haven't specified which social programs you'd have eliminated to deport people.

one huge reason Terrorists hate the US because we support israel.

Edit: Wellfare for healthy people could be cut. As well as all the aid we give foreign nations the ungratefull bastards.
Kontor
09-11-2007, 05:16
You do know that the United States was the driving force in that kept the United Nations out of Rwanda?

All that was under clinton.

Edit: What are your sources?
Aggicificicerous
09-11-2007, 05:20
All that was under clinton.

Is that all American Conservatives can do? Whenever something isn't right, blame it on Clinton? And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Clinton have massive support for his move too?
Kontor
09-11-2007, 05:21
one huge reason Terrorists hate the US because we support israel.

Edit: Wellfare for healthy people could be cut. As well as all the aid we give foreign nations the ungratefull bastards.

EDIT EDIT: Also we could stop supporting illegal immigrants children with taxpayers cash.
Zayun
09-11-2007, 05:22
one huge reason Terrorists hate the US because we support israel.

Edit: Wellfare for healthy people could be cut. As well as all the aid we give foreign nations the ungratefull bastards.

Hardly, that may be a reason they dislike us, but there are far greater grievances.

Cutting money from one program isn't going to pay for the deportation of 11 MILLION. By the way, which foreign nations do you consider ungrateful?
Kontor
09-11-2007, 05:22
Is that all American Conservatives can do? Whenever something isn't right, blame it on Clinton? And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Clinton have massive support for his move too?
And if somthing isnt right now all you do is blame bush.
Kontor
09-11-2007, 05:24
Hardly, that may be a reason they dislike us, but there are far greater grievances.

Cutting money from one program isn't going to pay for the deportation of 11 MILLION. By the way, which foreign nations do you consider ungrateful?

What would those grevances be? Im asking you because you seem to know them so well.

Edit: sorry for the DP but its hard to debate 2 people at once. :)
Aggicificicerous
09-11-2007, 05:26
And if somthing isnt right now all you do is blame bush.

No. Try again.
Kontor
09-11-2007, 05:32
No. Try again.

HA HA, there is a thread here that is just for bashing bush, and anyway most of what I hear from generic liberals and socialists here is america and bush bashing.
Trotskylvania
09-11-2007, 05:32
All that was under clinton.

Edit: What are your sources?

Only in the American media could Clinton even be considered left wing. And he and his party have seldom been any better than their opposition on the issue of foreign policy.
Kontor
09-11-2007, 05:36
Only in the American media could Clinton even be considered left wing. And he and his party have seldom been any better than their opposition on the issue of foreign policy.

Politicians are politicians true. But never the less he is a liberal socialist.
Aggicificicerous
09-11-2007, 05:39
Politicians are politicians true. But never the less he is a liberal socialist.

He nothing even close to a liberal socialist. It really is amazing how far right the United States' political compass has shifted.
Trotskylvania
09-11-2007, 05:40
Politicians are politicians true. But never the less he is a liberal socialist.

*dies of laughter*

(thank you for killing the revolution. Your service to the establishment is duly noted)
Zayun
09-11-2007, 05:50
EDIT EDIT: Also we could stop supporting illegal immigrants children with taxpayers cash.

So we shouldn't give them an education, even if they are citizens? So now we don't always give citizenship to people that are born here?

What would those grevances be? Im asking you because you seem to know them so well.

Edit: sorry for the DP but its hard to debate 2 people at once. :)

No, I'm asking you what countries would have funding cut off from. Those are two entirely different arguments, and you can't combine them like that.

As I already have said, Israel's oppression of the Palestinians is a motivation for some, but there are other issues as well. Anyone that has lost a family member to a war started by the US and its allies is not going to look favorably at the US. Muslims are also not going to look happily at the fact that the majority of the countries that the US has invaded in recent years have a Muslim majority. Whether this is a war on Islam or not, one could easily claim it is so. People also feel threatened in the West, their religion is mocked and criticized more than any other religion, they are considered to have inferior beliefs. Muslims are also targeted for hate crimes (although I'm not sure who's targeted the most, Muslims are certainly very high up there).

In essence, the Muslim world "feels" it is under attack, and whether it is or not, this causes people, who feel they are backed into a corner, to retaliate violently.
Siriusa
09-11-2007, 06:04
Politicians are politicians true. But never the less he is a liberal socialist.

I was eating spaghetti and in reading this, I accidentally snorted a noodle out of my nose.

I highly doubt that you actually know what a liberal socialist is, and instead you take to calling anyone who is even slightly more liberal than good ol' Reagan "liberal socialist."
Eureka Australis
09-11-2007, 06:07
Conservative 'nationalism' is whimsical at best, if a conservative President is in office then burning flags is evil and respecting Presidential authority and the nation is the greatest thing ever, but if a left-leaning or liberal is the President (say Clinton), then it's perfectly legitimate to disrespect the President or Congress. It's funny how according to the Right, a President is only wrapped in the flag when he's conservative, so if you throw mud you're disrespecting the country - but if he's a Liberal it's fair game. Right-wing hypocrisy at it's finest, not to mention that the conservatives told Clinton in the 90's that he was 'too obcessed with Bin Laden'. Figures....
Aggicificicerous
09-11-2007, 06:08
HA HA, there is a thread here that is just for bashing bush, and anyway most of what I hear from generic liberals and socialists here is america and bush bashing.

A thread devoted to bashing Bush has people bashing Bush, and you're surprised enough to draw the conclusion that anyone that's a liberal or socialist blames everything on Bush? Weak.
Maineiacs
09-11-2007, 06:17
The good ol' U.S of A would be in much much much better shape.

You know what they say, takes one to know one.

Does the koran allow muslims to use profanities? What a lovely religion you have.

The world would be a better place without you guys. So please, jump away.

I know, im just a ball of love arn't I.

If that made any sence at all I would answer.

I could (and do) say the same thing about liberal bloggers. Bloggers like you, and in fact ARE you.

What question? You had no questions you just insulted him.

Yes I did look again. If you use that logic I don't have to answer to you so I can post what I want. I was more thinking along the lines of fanatical lefties than muslims, anyway you said you would rather die, I was agreeing with you.

Edit: Why on earth would I owe you 10 bucks? Just because you went out of your way to post means nothing to me.

Look ma, a new troll! Can I play with him? Can I? Huh, huh? Can I?
Kontor
09-11-2007, 06:59
Look ma, a new troll! Can I play with him? Can I? Huh, huh? Can I?

Great, just great, we have another lunatic. For all our sakes please..PLEASE take your pills.

Edit: As someone here told me, ocean something, if you can't handle sarcasm you best run home to mama.
Siriusa
09-11-2007, 07:28
Great, just great, we have another lunatic. For all our sakes please..PLEASE take your pills.

Edit: As someone here told me, ocean something, if you can't handle sarcasm you best run home to mama.

I cannot put into words how offensive that is to me. Several people very close to me have disorders that require medication (such as bipolar disorder and severe depression to name a couple). "Lunatic" is an offensive term, and when used in this context, it seems especially vitriolic to me. In addition to being flaming, that comment was ignorant, unfair, and quite offensive.

Please do not make that snide little "take your pills" comment again.
Maineiacs
09-11-2007, 08:07
I cannot put into words how offensive that is to me. Several people very close to me have disorders that require medication (such as bipolar disorder and severe depression to name a couple). "Lunatic" is an offensive term, and when used in this context, it seems especially vitriolic to me. In addition to being flaming, that comment was ignorant, unfair, and quite offensive.

Please do not make that snide little "take your pills" comment again.

Actually, my pills (for clincal depression) are the only things keeping me from flaming the little troll right back. Since I am taking them at present, I can laugh at him and walk away, which I will now do.
Trotskylvania
09-11-2007, 08:10
Actually, my pills (for clincal depression) are the only things keeping me from flaming the little troll right back. Since I am taking them at present, I can laugh at him and walk away, which I will now do.

You win the thread. :p
Maineiacs
09-11-2007, 09:14
You win the thread. :p

W00t! My first thread win! *victory dance*:D