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"Did he just die? Send his carcass to jail for disrupting parliament!"

Hydesland
07-11-2007, 23:55
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7081038.stm

UK chooses 'most ludicrous laws'

It is illegal to die in the Houses of Parliament
Legislation said to prohibit people dying while in the Houses of Parliament has been voted one of the most ludicrous laws in the UK.
Treason laws which reportedly could be used against someone who places a stamp upside down on a letter were also cited by those polled by UKTV Gold.

Nearly 4,000 people picked laws on a list compiled by UKTV Gold researchers.

It examined laws that have never been repealed even though statutes could have rendered them obsolete.

A UKTV Gold spokeswoman said many of the regulations were referenced in the book The Strange Laws of Old England by Nigel Cawthorne.

A total of 27% of those questioned by UKTV Gold thought the law against dying in the Houses of Parliament was the most absurd.

Mr Cawthorne told the Daily Telegraph newspaper that anyone who dies in Parliament is technically entitled to a state funeral and the law is in place to ensure this does not happen.

However, a spokesman for the House of Commons said: "The people who know about these things here say there is no basis for such a law, not to say it does not exist somewhere in writing."

Cannon firing

Other lesser-known laws making the list included one banning eating mince pies on Christmas Day and another from 1313 stating it is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament wearing a suit of armour.

Almost half of those asked confessed to breaking the mince pie law, which was brought in by Oliver Cromwell in the 17th Century.

Last year, the Law Society last year highlighted a number of bizarre laws still in existence on the statute book in England and Wales.

These included a ban on firing a cannon close to a dwelling house (Met Police Act 1839); a ban on the use of any slide upon ice or snow (Town Police Clauses Act 1847); and the prohibition of driving cattle through the streets of London (Metropolitan Streets Act 1867).

An ongoing cull of obsolete laws by the statute law revision team, has seen 2,000 abolished since 1965.

Dead whales

Among the most ridiculous laws listed by UKTV Gold were:


It is illegal to die in the Houses of Parliament (27%)

It could be regarded an act of treason to place a postage stamp bearing the British king or queen's image upside-down (7%)

Eating mince pies on Christmas Day is banned (5%)

In the UK, a pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants (4%)

The head of any dead whale found on the British coast automatically becomes the property of the King, and the tail of the Queen (3.5%)

It is illegal not to tell the tax man anything you do not want him to know, but legal not to tell him information you do not mind him knowing (3%)

It is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament wearing a suit of armour (3%)


So how can they arrest a dead person, put his coffin in the tower of london?
Gauthier
08-11-2007, 00:05
So how can they arrest a dead person, put his coffin in the tower of london?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1M0zU2IihI

Dr. Klahn: "Now, take him to be tortured!!"
Miodrag Superior
08-11-2007, 00:06
To me the most absurd is that

"[i]t is illegal not to tell the tax man anything you do not want him to know, but legal not to tell him information you do not mind him knowing"

Who but you can determine what you yourself (do not) mind or (do not) want someone else to know?

Of course, it is good that it is forbidden to die in the parliament: it shows that Britain has a belief in its public health sevrice -- because, like Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Russia etc., but unlike the US, it has one.
Ariddia
08-11-2007, 00:10
Amusing. Thank you for that. :)

My favourite strange law has always been one from Texas seen on dumblaws.com a few years ago: "If two trains meet at an intersection, both shall stop, and neither shall go again until the other has gone."
Hydesland
08-11-2007, 00:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1M0zU2IihI

Dr. Klahn: "Now, take him to be tortured!!"

Kentucky Fried Movie = ownage
Londim
08-11-2007, 00:19
This law hasn't been repealed yet....

"In Hereford you can shoot a Welsh person on a Sunday, with a longbow, in the Cathedral Close."
Ariddia
08-11-2007, 00:25
This law hasn't been repealed yet....

"In Hereford you can shoot a Welsh person on a Sunday, with a longbow, in the Cathedral Close."

I can just imagine someone going to the right place, on the right day, with a longbow, and waiting to hear Welsh accents...

Somehow, though, I would think that law is superseded by more recent ones (such as prohibitions on murder or assault), even if it hasn't been repealed.
Hydesland
08-11-2007, 00:26
This law hasn't been repealed yet....

"In Hereford you can shoot a Welsh person on a Sunday, with a longbow, in the Cathedral Close."

I fully endorse this law.
Hydesland
08-11-2007, 00:27
I can just imagine someone going to the right place, on the right day, with a longbow, and waiting to hear Welsh accents...


Shh! Don't reveal my plans! :D
Dalmatia Cisalpina
08-11-2007, 00:34
Thank you for bringing joy to my day.
My favorite law is from North Dakota: apparently it is still legal to shoot Native Americans from the back of a covered wagon so long as they are in a group of three of more, since this may be considered a raiding party.
I have not heard of anyone trying this recently. One that could go off the books in our enlightened times, huh?
Eureka Australis
08-11-2007, 00:39
Lol, I wish their was a tax man, I just get it deducted from my pay and have to claim at the end of the year.
Creepy Lurker
08-11-2007, 01:44
This law hasn't been repealed yet....

"In Hereford you can shoot a Welsh person on a Sunday, with a longbow, in the Cathedral Close."

I think this law pops up along many cities along the English/Welsh border. I think Chester has a similar one. As long as they are within the old walls then they're fair game. ;)
Bitchkitten
08-11-2007, 02:50
In an apparent attempt to be green, Oklahoma has a law aginst whale hunting.


For those not in the know, Oklahoma is about 400 miles from the nearest ocean.
Marrakech II
08-11-2007, 03:10
In an apparent attempt to be green, Oklahoma has a law aginst whale hunting.


For those not in the know, Oklahoma is about 400 miles from the nearest ocean.

I always wondered why some call it Jokelahoma.
Ariddia
08-11-2007, 14:52
So how can they arrest a dead person, put his coffin in the tower of london?

I can see only one type of punishment for this. Posthumous execution! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_execution)
Rambhutan
08-11-2007, 14:56
I can see only one type of punishment for this. Posthumous execution! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_execution)

or a life sentence
Chumblywumbly
08-11-2007, 15:00
I doubt many would notice if a couple of backbenchers died during Parliament.

Surely there's special dispensation for the Lords? Half of them died years ago...

:p
Ifreann
08-11-2007, 15:10
I doubt many would notice if a couple of backbenchers died during Parliament.

Surely there's special dispensation for the Lords? Half of them died years ago...

:p

Lets just see them try and throw Lord Zombiedon in jail.
Chumblywumbly
08-11-2007, 15:13
Lets just see them try and throw Lord Zombiedon in jail.
Not after he donated to Labour...





... allegedly.
The blessed Chris
08-11-2007, 15:22
I do love laws like that. Essentially harmless, and utterly, eccentrically entertaining.

Actually, if its illegal to die in the commons, is it legal to shoot Gordon Brown in parliament? Provided he dies, surely he'd be wrong in the eyes of the law?
Chumblywumbly
08-11-2007, 15:29
Provided he dies, surely he'd be wrong in the eyes of the law?
As would your murder of him.
Damor
08-11-2007, 15:42
It is illegal to die in the Houses of Parliament (27%) Well, dying might take a while. It doesn't say it's illegal to be dead in the house of parliament, only (the process of) dying is banned.
So if, say, you inject some MPs with a slow acting poison, they are thereby banned from parliament.
The blessed Chris
08-11-2007, 15:48
As would your murder of him.

But surely I could make my getaway whilst the Police arrested Gordy for dying in parliament?:D
The blessed Chris
08-11-2007, 15:49
Well, dying might take a while. It doesn't say it's illegal to be dead in the house of parliament, only (the process of) dying is banned.
So if, say, you inject some MPs with a slow acting poison, they are thereby banned from parliament.

Far be it from me to be a pedant, but surely, given that life is just a prolonged process of dying, nobody should be allowed in parliament?
Chumblywumbly
08-11-2007, 15:52
But surely I could make my getaway whilst the Police arrested Gordy for dying in parliament?:D
Nah, I see the Serjeant-at-Arms tackling you.

And if he doesn't Menzies Campell can sprint after you.

Then the Met will shoot you in the head.

:p
Chumblywumbly
08-11-2007, 15:58
No no no!! If this chain of events came to pass, I would actually be a criminal. If I were a real criminal, the met would ignore me, or perhaps ask where the nearest bloke is with slightly darker than white skin, and shoot him....;)
Too true.

I'd stilll like to see how fast Menzies can run now...
The blessed Chris
08-11-2007, 15:59
Nah, I see the Serjeant-at-Arms tackling you.

And if he doesn't Menzies Campell can sprint after you.

Then the Met will shoot you in the head.

:p

No no no!! If this chain of events came to pass, I would actually be a criminal. If I were a real criminal, the met would ignore me, or perhaps ask where the nearest bloke is with slightly darker than white skin, and shoot him....;)
Damor
08-11-2007, 16:28
Far be it from me to be a pedant, but surely, given that life is just a prolonged process of dying, nobody should be allowed in parliament?Well, wouldn't you agree that might in fact turn out better for everyone involved? ;)
The blessed Chris
08-11-2007, 17:03
Well, wouldn't you agree that might in fact turn out better for everyone involved? ;)

Quite possibly. Belgium seems to trundling along well enough without a government.