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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307843,00.html

This takes balls:

CAIRO, Egypt — Al Qaeda's No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri harshly criticized Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi in a new audio tape Saturday, accusing him of being an enemy of Islam and threatening a wave of attacks against the North African country because it improved relations with the United States.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307843,00.html

And before people say anything...it is the associated press

Al Qaeda will lash out at ANYONE these days.

Al Qaeda will lash out at ANYONE these days.

Pretty much!

So even other Muslim nations who, in Western eyes, are extremely anti-West, but aren't anti-West enough for Osama and co. are at risk of bombings? Isn't killing another Muslim the worst crime that can be committed in Islamic law?

I do like it when people who supposedly support a group of people start turning on them the minute they don't get 100% support. Eventually the Al Qaeda beam of righteousness will narrow so far that it will be only bin Laden and al-Zawahri trying to kill the whole world with two AKs and a box of toothpicks.

Might this event start getting Islamic extremists to stop supporting Al-Qaeda? If that happens would that signal a decline of the extremist attacks or would a new group be formed to take Al-Qaeda's place?

Corny, on a side note...what is your personal opinion of Fox News and the other news organizations in this country? How valid are they as news services in your mind? Please rate ALL of the major ones.

Corny, on a side note...what is your personal opinion of Fox News and the other news organizations in this country? How valid are they as news services in your mind? Please rate ALL of the major ones.

Do you want the TV stations or their appropriate websites?

Do you want the TV stations or their appropriate websites?

Well I was talking about the television stations, but if you want to do the websites too that'd be okay.

Erm... is there anyone they won't lash out at?

Well I was talking about the television stations, but if you want to do the websites too that'd be okay.

Well for the tv stations...I'll just sum them up with this:

I do not watch them anymore.

Well for the tv stations...I'll just sum them up with this:

I do not watch them anymore.

Okay. What about the websites?

Okay. What about the websites?

I view them with more legitmacy

I view them with more legitmacy

Do you favor one over the others? What do you think of Fox News's website's credibility?

Do you favor one over the others? What do you think of Fox News's website's credibility?

Alot of what Fox News puts out is from the Associated Press. Those articles I view with more attention. The ones that they put out themselves, I investigate further to see just how good with facts they are and they do a decent job with them.

CNN does most of their articles and though some of them have a slight left bent, I do tend to view them abit more favorably.

Alot of what Fox News puts out is from the Associated Press. Those articles I view with more attention. The ones that they put out themselves, I investigate further to see just how good with facts they are and they do a decent job with them.

CNN does most of their articles and though some of them have a slight left bent, I do tend to view them abit more favorably.
Interesting. Out of curiosity, why is it you usually link to Fox News, then?

Interesting. Out of curiosity, why is it you usually link to Fox News, then?

Usually its the first place that comes to mind. Probably stems from when I used to watch it all the time.

Usually its the first place that comes to mind. Probably stems from when I used to watch it all the time.

You might want to change that habit, then, if you don't see it as credible as other sources.

You might want to change that habit, then, if you don't see it as credible as other sources.

And yet...I linked to an AP article :D

And yet...I linked to an AP article :D

On Fox News's website. If you want to link to an AP article, I suggest you try linking to the AP website in the future just to avoid this tendency of people to just dismiss your articles.

Is this a surprise? They are, after all, just a small radical (but very noticable) minority, a group that lacks general support in the Muslim world.

There aren't many leaders of muslim countries they do like.

Reads...

Fox News.....

Stops reading.....

Reads...

Fox News.....

Stops reading.....

:rolleyes:

So I see you failed to realize that it was the associated press. People who reject a link without actually noticing which new organization did the article should have heads examined.

Reads...

Fox News.....

Stops reading.....

Eureka Australis stops thinking. No news there...

As regards the op: This shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone who knows about the recent history of Libya. Gadaffi is actually quite popular - and mainly as the guy who prevented Libya devolving into an Islamic state.

He was a strong supporter of the non-aligned movement back in the Cold War days, and is still a booster of the concept of letting Arabs and Africans solve their own problems without the West getting involved. But he has no time for militant Islam, or religious bigotry in general.

I do like it when people who supposedly support a group of people start turning on them the minute they don't get 100% support. Eventually the Al Qaeda beam of righteousness will narrow so far that it will be only bin Laden and al-Zawahri trying to kill the whole world with two AKs and a box of toothpicks.
Something must be offsetting that narrowing of "Al Qaeda beam of righteousness (http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3366118&page=1)"?

Perhaps the continued folly of the US foreign policy?

A military intelligence report that concludes al Qaeda has largely restored itself to pre- 9/11 strength will be the focus of a meeting at the White House today. The meeting was called to discuss a pending National Intelligence Estimate.

While the military has maintained that al Qaeda is on the run in Iraq, by any number of measures the terror group and its affiliates are as strong as ever, and June was the most violent month since the start of the war, a senior U.S. military official told ABC News.

"Despite our successes in taking out leaders and infrastructure," said the official, "al Qaeda's operational capability appears to be undiminished."

Anyway, don't forget the others he's targeting:

"O nation of jihad, support your sons so that we defeat our enemies and rid our homeland of their slaves," said the recorded voice attributed to al-Zawahri, referring to the leaders of Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco.
The voice on the recording also calls on Palestinians belonging to Fatah and its military arm, the al-Aqsa Brigades, to remove from power their leader, President Mahmoud Abbas.

Sounds like desperation if you ask me. I imagine Al-Qaeda has been beaten up, driven out, and bankrupted in a lot of places and are really hunting for ways to revitalize their ranks and recruit new people for their cause. They messed with the US and it backfired pretty badly (although we almost handed them a windfall in the form of the Iraq war...it appears, however, that even that ended up a Pyrrhic victory at best for AQ and generated a lot of emnity between them and the Iraqi resistance), and so they're going to focus on softer targets tangentially related to the US instead.

Sounds like desperation if you ask me. I imagine Al-Qaeda has been beaten up, driven out, and bankrupted in a lot of places and are really hunting for ways to revitalize their ranks and recruit new people for their cause. They messed with the US and it backfired pretty badly (although we almost handed them a windfall in the form of the Iraq war...it appears, however, that even that ended up a Pyrrhic victory at best for AQ and generated a lot of emnity between them and the Iraqi resistance), and so they're going to focus on softer targets tangentially related to the US instead.

Rather, refocusing an their priority targets. AQ focusing on the "farther enemy" instead of the "nearer enemy" was a huge and almost fatal mistake on their part. But attacking the US and US interest is secondary for AQ on their road to their true goal - though the US is (May have seemed like) a convenient enemy to gather support against, given their heavy presence in the middle east.

Sounds like desperation if you ask me. I imagine Al-Qaeda has been beaten up, driven out, and bankrupted in a lot of places and are really hunting for ways to revitalize their ranks and recruit new people for their cause. They messed with the US and it backfired pretty badly (although we almost handed them a windfall in the form of the Iraq war...it appears, however, that even that ended up a Pyrrhic victory at best for AQ and generated a lot of emnity between them and the Iraqi resistance), and so they're going to focus on softer targets tangentially related to the US instead.

I agree with your analysis Vetalia.

I imagine Al-Qaeda has been beaten up, driven out, and bankrupted in a lot of places and are really hunting for ways to revitalize their ranks and recruit new people for their cause.

Ayman al-Zawahri purportedly said the Fighting Islamic Group in Libya was becoming part of al-Qaeda.

Earlier this year Algeria's Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat also claimed to have joined the network.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7076604.stm