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Yes, curious about this. $60,000....$70,000...maybe even $71,000.

only if I were properly educated and had complete control over whom I give abortions to (don't want to be forced to give them to unwilling peoples)

Yes, all that is included in the package.

only if I were properly educated and had complete control over whom I give abortions to (don't want to be forced to give them to unwilling peoples)

While I don't think it should be illiegal, and such, I still don't think its that pleasant of a thing, and I wounldn't like to do it (though it would be fun if someone asked what I did, and I said "Killed Babies":eek:)

I couldn't personally do it. I couldn't make it feel right with myself. Something such as this would haunt me all the time. No amount of money would stop that feeling of guilt.

I wouldn't be paid to be an abortionist, because I am not a doctor nor am I a surgeon.

I suppose if I were a doctor that would be part of my regular salary.

Would I choose to be specifically an abortionist? No.

Is there a point somewhere in this thread?

If by abortionist you mean doctor, then yes, I'd be a doc, assuming I could make it through med school

Considering I have no moral objections against voluntary abortions in the first stagees of pregnancy, any decent salary would suffice - though it is not really a profession where my passion would lie.

I do not want to be a medical professional no matter what it pays, and it already pays well. The type of medical professional is irrelevant to me, I don't want to do it. That does not equate to disapproval of the job. I like cars but don't want to be a mechanic, as such I like very much that there are people who do want to be mechanics so when something complicated breaks on the car I like there is someone to fix it. I'm not paying someone to do something unpleasant or objectionable, I am paying someone to do something they are better at than me so I can concentrate on being better at something else.

Infinite + 1. And even that wouldnt do it.

depends on what abortion school is like :p

I would also demand to be paid in £ as I don't trust the dollar

I would also demand to be paid in £ as I don't trust the dollar

I would prefer to be paid with the souls of the aborted fetuses; I could start my own private afterlife.

It is the patient's prerogative to choose what treatment or procedure they want done or not done. It would not be up to me to dictate my morality to them in this choice. I just happen to be in favour of a woman's right to her own body, but this applies in other instances for other treatments.

I'm not pro-women's rights or pro-choice, but I am anti-life, so yes.

a doctor?, yes Id be a doc, assuming I could make it through med school, If you mean doctor. doctors make a lot of $$$ in this side of the Pond. Many make more than the President.

Yes, curious about this. $60,000....$70,000...maybe even $71,000.depend in what country.. over here Doctors make much more money than that.

doctors make a lot of $$$ in this side of the Pond. Many make more than the President.

Lots of professionals make more than the president. But not many of those professions make enough to become president...

I wouldn't do it for any price.

Assuming I was a doctor, then yes, I'd perform pretty much any medical procedure I was paid to, assuming again that it was safe, legal, etc., to do so.

I would need at least enough money to scrape out a living.

There is no amount of money I could be paid to become an abortionist or even work in an abortion clinic.

You couldn't pay me enough to be an abortionist.

80,000 a year plus benefits

Enough to pay for the lawsuit when they discover I have no training in medicine? Or, if we assume I'm given training, then the salary would have to be more than I can get in my current line of work.

Well, first of all, I'd have to be a doctor. Would YOU let me cut you open? :p

Second, I don't hold abortion in particularly high regard. If I ever have the power, I would go around to all these pro-life activists and beat them with reeds while screaming at them that if they put half the energy they put into protesting abortions into improving the foster care system, sex education, contraception and social services to support single parents, they could probably all but eliminate the NEED for abortion! God dammit! :mad:

*sigh*

Where was I? Ah, yes. Finally, I don't hold deliberate ignorance in particularly high regard and that is a major cause(not the only cause. I understand that.) of unwanted pregnancies. I don't think I could handle so many ignorant people without resorting to shouting and/or groin strikes.

So I think I would need at least $750,000 for a 30 hour work week and 2 months paid vacation a year. And a company car. :p

I would need at least enough money to scrape out a living.

That is sick!:D

I would need at least enough money to scrape out a living.

Yay! :D

snapping off limbs of babies to get them out of the womb
leaving babies to slowly die in a medical dish
(this can happen in the legal abortion limit)

so no way

There is no amount of money I could be paid to become an abortionist or even work in an abortion clinic.

Me either, it's just wrong, and no one will ever change my mind. I'd start with reasons but I don't think that I'd change any of your minds so....

Well, first of all, I'd have to be a doctor. Would YOU let me cut you open? :p

Second, I don't hold abortion in particularly high regard. If I ever have the power, I would go around to all these pro-life activists and beat them with reeds while screaming at them that if they put half the energy they put into protesting abortions into improving the foster care system, sex education, contraception and social services to support single parents, they could probably all but eliminate the NEED for abortion! God dammit! :mad:

*sigh*

Where was I? Ah, yes. Finally, I don't hold deliberate ignorance in particularly high regard and that is a major cause(not the only cause. I understand that.) of unwanted pregnancies. I don't think I could handle so many ignorant people without resorting to shouting and/or groin strikes.

So I think I would need at least $750,000 for a 30 hour work week and 2 months paid vacation a year. And a company car. :p

And you're a father? I find that hard to believe.

I would give a 20% discount on my rates if I could perform an atheistic satanic ceremony afterwards on the fetus, and then sprinkle it with goats blood representing communism, and then eat it. That's what us leftists do you know.

And you're a father? I find that hard to believe.

I assure you, my children are quite real. The twins recently shat themselves. :p

I would give a 20% discount on my rates if I could perform an atheistic satanic ceremony afterwards on the fetus, and then sprinkle it with goats blood representing communism, and then eat it. That's what us leftists do you know.

Atheist believe in Satan? :confused:

Atheist believe in Satan? :confused:

Shh....

*throws you a taco*

Atheist believe in Satan? :confused:

Atheists don't share beliefs, we share the lack of a particular belief. An atheist could believe in Satan, but it would be pretty odd as Satan is a character from a theistic religion.

Assuming I was a doctor, then yes, I'd perform pretty much any medical procedure I was paid to, assuming again that it was safe, legal, etc., to do so.
As you live in Ireland, that second presumption kinda precludes the possibility of you performing an abortion if you were a doctor.

No, I don't think I could, nor would I want to.

If, if, I were an OBGYN whose job responsibilities included carrying out the occasional abortion, then the average OBGYN salary would suffice. Although I doubt, unless it paid exceedingly well, I would focus primarily on carrying out abortions, for a myriad number of personal moral qualms and and concerns pertaining to my own safety, the safety of my property and the safety of my friends and family.

Oh, and because having to deal with protesters chaining themselves to my office door would also piss me off too.

Oh, and ignorant and incompetent people, too, like LG. I'm sorry, but pregnancy is pretty fucking preventable. Take the pill, wear a rubber, whatever. It's cheap and its not that hard.

I voted yes, but then I remembered I'm probably too squeamish to be any kind of surgeon.

I voted yes, but then I remembered I'm probably too squeamish to be any kind of surgeon.

That's likely the truth for me as well :D

Capitan Falcon would be proud...

I'm not pro-life or pro-choice. I am pro-abortion.

And what's with stopping abortions after the baby is born. That's ridiculous. I say we should raise the age to about fifty years old.

Maybe it was the right time to have a baby five years ago, but now is not the time for a little screaming toddler. Abortion. It's that simple.

(end of sarcasm) I love to take that stance against those who are pro-choice. I couldn't be paid to be an abortionist. I would pay money to NOT be an abortionist.

I would need at least enough money to scrape out a living.

That was a truly horrid pun. I am in awe.

Oh, and ignorant and incompetent people, too, like LG. I'm sorry, but pregnancy is pretty fucking preventable. Take the pill, wear a rubber, whatever. It's cheap and its not that hard.

Sometimes the rubber breaks. Sometimes she thought she took her pill but it's sitting on the counter at home, not sure why but I've also heard of some cases when even taken properly the pill just didn't work.

To sum up, sometimes the person getting the abortion DID take precautions, and the precautions didn't work.

Going through all the associated training seems like a huge pain in the ass and I'm not terribly interested in it.

So basically, I wouldn't refuse to be an abortionist because I'm squeamish about the prospect of "ending life" or whatever garbage, I just want to do something more interesting with my life and hopefully someone else will want to be a doctor who can provide these sorts of services since they are needed.

Yes, curious about this. $60,000....$70,000...maybe even $71,000.

If it pays more than what I do (very likely), has a decent benefit package, a reasonable assurance of being longterm, and they'd pay me while I was training and send me to school... I'd change jobs in an instant.

I'm sorry, but pregnancy is pretty fucking preventable. Take the pill, wear a rubber, whatever. It's cheap and its not that hard....which might not have totally prevented ejaculation and also probably why the rubber came off... :fluffle:

Sometimes the rubber breaks. Sometimes she thought she took her pill but it's sitting on the counter at home, not sure why but I've also heard of some cases when even taken properly the pill just didn't work.

To sum up, sometimes the person getting the abortion DID take precautions, and the precautions didn't work.

Sometimes pregnancy occurs in those who didn't consent to the intercourse, or were too young to know about protection, or just came from some part of the country stupid enough to think that kids won't have sex if you don't tell them anything about it...

I find it hard to believe anyone would actually still dare to bring up the 'you fucked, so you deserve to be punished with a baby' argument.

Pay me enough so I could get some security to protect me from nutjobs whose idea of protesting abortion is blowing up abortion clinics(funny how some people protest "murder" with murder), and I might consider. Surgery doesn't seem like the kind of thing I'd like to go into, though.

I chose probably because my stance is it's accceptable under extenuating circumstances. (Mom is in danger, no money, genetic disorder). Not for some prize-winning supermodel to keep her figure.

For example, in tubal births if the Baby survives 99% of the time the mother dies and vice-versa, and it's nearly impossible to save both.

Sometimes the rubber breaks. Sometimes she thought she took her pill but it's sitting on the counter at home, not sure why but I've also heard of some cases when even taken properly the pill just didn't work.

To sum up, sometimes the person getting the abortion DID take precautions, and the precautions didn't work.

Yes, but taking two, or three steps to prevent pregnancy is not that much to ask. I mean, the pill requires the tiniest bit of discipline (and there's even alternatives to that! Patches, shots, all sorts of things), a condom is simple, spermicide foam is relatively simple, an IUD (especially some of the new ones) is easy...or even just settling for oral when that time of the month is near.

And, honestly, if someone can't be successful with all of those measures, then, honestly, I really would prefer that they not have kids: Ever.

It would have to be high ...

To be completely honest mostly because I am already making a good chunk of money in something I LOVE to do

The medical field while admirable has never been my thing

Yes, but taking two, or three steps to prevent pregnancy is not that much to ask. I mean, the pill requires the tiniest bit of discipline (and there's even alternatives to that! Patches, shots, all sorts of things), a condom is simple, spermicide foam is relatively simple, an IUD (especially some of the new ones) is easy...or even just settling for oral when that time of the month is near.

And, honestly, if someone can't be successful with all of those measures, then, honestly, I really would prefer that they not have kids: Ever.


A sponge a day keeps the coat hanger away.

I voted "Yes".

Actually, this is not the correct answer, as I do not wish to be any kind of a doctor -- and it is way too late to change career at this age anyway, so I won't be one.

Yet, my point is: I have no qualms about abortions whatsoever, it's completely and only the woman's choice. So I voted "Yes".

I was hoping that option four said "I'll get my coat.... hanger".

How much would you have to be paid to be an abortion?
Think of the Fetii!

How much would you have to be paid to be an abortion?
Think of the Fetii!

Thank our libertarian overlords. No money, no rights - just as god designed it.

Thank our libertarian overlords. No money, no rights - just as god designed it.

I for one, do not welcome our libertarian overlords.

Darn..too late..

I'm not pro-women's rights or pro-choice, but I am anti-life, so yes.

i on the other hand say this:
your dumb enough to get pregnant, you make the baby suffer?
only if it threatned the mom or was rape, otherwise the parents:mp5:

Yes, curious about this. $60,000....$70,000...maybe even $71,000.

If I had the brains to become a doctor in the first place... I don't know what the average GP makes per annum. But I'd want about the same, I guess.

Yes, curious about this. $60,000....$70,000...maybe even $71,000.If it were possible for me to receive training exclusively in performing medical abortions (instead of having to go through all of medical school etc), I'd already have received that training and would be happy to volunteer my services free of charge whenever I'm not working.

The only reason I'm not already "an abortionist" is because I didn't want to go to medical school.

Supposing I already had the education for it, yeah. I probably wouldn't make it my life's career, but as I see nothing wrong with abortion, I see nothing wrong with performing one.

Pft, I'm a back ally abortionist and I do it for free when there's not enough cash to go around.

I'm pro-anything that results in me getting money. Of course, I lack medical training, medical equipment and medical aptitude. Also, my hands tend to shake a lot and I lack a hygienic environment in which to work.
But, sure, if someone wanted to put her life in my inexperienced, unsteady hands I'd be willing to shove pointy, metallic instruments up her vagina and fish around for a bit.
As to the charge, well, I'd want compensation for my damaged coat hangers, and about $500 per fetus. Also, money for a new pair of shoes because I don't know of anything that can remove the stains from baby slime.

If I had the skills and training to do the job, I would do it, regardless of the salary with the caveat that it would have to cover my mortgage. I have had an abortion and am hugely grateful to those who performed the surgery and provided care. I would be glad to do the same for anybody else who needed it.

Let's see... abortionist is just a loaded term for a doctor who performs abortions. Doctors are paid well already. I don't want to be a doctor.

So... no?

No. I wouldn't involve myself in an abortion unless it's medically necessary.

No. I'm pro-choice and have nothing against abortions, but fuck med school.

I assure you, my children are quite real. The twins recently shat themselves. :p

aaww what are their names, the little cutie pies, :p have you gone:headbang: yet?

I wouldn't want to be an abortionist since I'm not interested in medicine but I wouldn't have any moral issues with it if I was one.

I absolutely would not, for any amount of money, become an abortionist.

I absolutely would not, for any amount of money, become an abortionist.

Ummm. Then perhaps a peanut butter sandwhich?

If I had the brains to become a doctor in the first place... I don't know what the average GP makes per annum. But I'd want about the same, I guess.

Looks like that would be about £110,000 (or $228,987) at the moment in the UK

Link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/nov/01/publicsectorcareers.health?gusrc=rss&feed=society)

Ummm. Then perhaps a peanut butter sandwhich?

Well... it would have to be one helluva good peanut butter sandwich...

J/K

Not for anything :)