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GOP Lawmaker Resigns Amid Sex Scandal

POSTED: 1:49 pm PDT October 31, 2007
UPDATED: 2:29 pm PDT October 31, 2007

OLYMPIA, Wash. -- A Republican state legislator who repeatedly voted against gay rights measures resigned his seat Wednesday amid revelations he had sex with a man he met at an erotic video store while in Spokane on a GOP retreat.

In a written statement, Rep. Richard Curtis, of La Center, said that while he believes he's done a lot of good during his time in the Legislature, "events that have recently come to light have hurt a lot of people."

"I sincerely apologize for any pain my actions may have caused," he wrote. "This has been damaging to my family, and I don't want to subject them to any additional pain that might result from carrying out this matter under the scrutiny that comes with holding public office."

Three days earlier, Curtis had insisted to his local newspaper that he was not gay and that sex was not involved in what he said was an extortion attempt by a man last week.

But in police reports, Curtis said he was being extorted by a man he had sex with in a Spokane hotel room. The other man contends Curtis reneged on a promise to pay $1,000 for sex.

House Minority Leader Richard DeBolt, R-Chehalis, said that as more "troubling" details began to emerge "it has become clear that he can no longer effectively represent the constituents who elected him."

His resignation was delivered to Gov. Chris Gregoire on Wednesday afternoon. A Republican successor will be chosen by county Republican leaders, and will serve until the 2008 election.

Numerous efforts to reach Curtis or his lawyer, John Wolfe, by phone have been unsuccessful.

Curtis, 48, told police he was the victim of an extortion attempt by Cody Castagna at the posh Davenport Tower hotel on Oct. 26, search warrant documents said. Castagna, 26, of nearby Medical Lake, told police that Curtis had agreed to pay him for sex, then reneged.

Curtis is married and has children, according to his legislative Web site. Elected to the state House of Representatives in 2004, he voted in 2005 and 2006 against a bill that granted civil rights protections to gays and lesbians, and in 2007 voted against a bill that created domestic partnerships for same-sex couples. Both measures eventually passed the Democratic-controlled state Legislature and are now state law.

Curtis was among state GOP lawmakers in Spokane Oct. 24-26 for a retreat to discuss the upcoming legislative session. He went to the Hollywood Erotic Boutique early on Oct. 26 and met Castagna, who accompanied him to the hotel, police documents said.

The two arrived at the hotel around 3:30 a.m. and had sex, after which Curtis fell asleep, according to documents released Tuesday.

Curtis alleged Castagna took his wallet and later offered to return it for $1,000. Curtis said he only had $200 and left an envelope with the money at the hotel desk, the documents said.

Police reports said Castagna allegedly called Curtis and demanded an additional $800, and threatened to expose Curtis. But Curtis had already contacted police, who listened to the call and then met with Castagna.

There have been no arrests in the case. On Wednesday, Spokane County Deputy Prosecutor Larry Steinmetz said a decision about possible criminal charges in the alleged extortion case was weeks away.

Castagna, who appeared Tuesday at a Spokane news conference with his lawyer, David Partovi, said Curtis gave him his wallet to hold as collateral "for the money that he promised me." Partovi refused to let his client tell reporters what he did for the money, noting Castagna had already spoken voluntarily with police.

"Cody Castagna admitted threatening to publicly expose Richard Curtis' gay lifestyle to his wife unless Richard Curtis provided the disputed money," the police documents said.

Partovi refused to let Castagna respond to a question about whether he threatened to "out" Curtis.

The lawyer noted extortion "is a violent Class B felony" and declared that his client "didn't do anything wrong, at that level anyway."

On Monday, Curtis told The Columbian newspaper of Vancouver, Wash., that he did not solicit sex.

"I committed no crime," he said. "I did not solicit sex. I was trying to help somebody out."

Curtis, a former firefighter, declared, "I am not gay."

In his initial statement to Spokane police on Oct. 26, Curtis admitted having sex with Castagna, but said he did not offer to pay for sex. He said he gave him $100 as gas money, but said he did not consider that paying for sex, according to the police reports.

Police reports said Curtis initially contacted a friend in the Washington State Patrol, in Western Washington, to investigate the case because he feared the Spokane authorities would talk to the media. But patrol officials referred the case to Spokane police.

The police reports added that Curtis told officers he only wanted his wallet back "and wanted to keep the incident as low key as possible." He did not want to pursue charges against Castagna, the report said.

The next day, police reports said, Curtis told a detective by phone that he was in Cle Elum because he had wrecked his car on the drive home.

Curtis also told the detective he "would have to tell his wife the truth and he would have to get a divorce attorney."

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press.

http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/2007/10/10292007_Curtis-denies-wrongdoing-says-he-is-not-gay.cfm

There's an article, can't find the CNN link I got the original from.

Is there anyone in the Republican Party who's straight?

No.

No.

That's a lot of self hating queers.

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse for the GOP...

That's a lot of self hating queers.

Indeed. *nod*

Got a link to the article?

lulz

Well, that makes it what, Republican self-hating gay number twenty thousand?

The only reason Republicans vote against gay rights is envy.

90% of the "Republicans" in our government are closet-Liberals.

I really doubt that the GOP is the party of family values. So many sex scandals, even more than the Democrats in recent times, I hear (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_scandals_of_the_United_States#Sex_scandals.)
:p
Sure, Clinton had one and he was the PRESIDENT, but it's not like the Dems really claim to be the party of traditional family values. I'd bet that once the Republican Party splits up eventually (whenever that is), the divide will be between the social conservatives and the economic conservatives, and all the closeted gay republicans will go chill with the economic conservatives.

90% of the "Republicans" in our government are closet-Liberals.

That's the stupidest thing I've read - No, wait, there was the guy who claimed the War in Iraq was the left's fault.

That's the second stupidest thing I've read today.

I'd bet that once the Republican Party splits up eventually (whenever that is), the divide will be between the social conservatives and the economic conservatives, and all the closeted gay republicans will go chill with the economic conservatives.

except that that ain't where these guys are all hiding currently

90% of the "Republicans" in our government are closet-Liberals.

...No, you just have a bunch of closet-homosexuals in your party.

Stop trying to blame things on liberals.

A dying party...

Is there anyone in the Republican Party who's straight?

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/johnnybmetal/not_this_shit_again.jpg

That's the stupidest thing I've read - No, wait, there was the guy who claimed the War in Iraq was the left's fault.

Ooh, I gotta see this. Linky? :D

Ooh, I gotta see this. Linky? :D

Here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13178229&postcount=27)

Here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13178229&postcount=27)

Thanks.

90% of the "Republicans" in our government are closet-Liberals.

Traditional liberals? Yes, but they don't try to hide that.

t3h eb1l c0mmiez?!?! There are no socialists in mainstream US politics and you delude yourself painfully if you believe otherwise.

Curtis also told the detective he "would have to tell his wife the truth and he would have to get a divorce attorney."

That conversation must be fun - seriously, how do you broach this subject and how, as a wife or husband, do you take this news?

Given he's a legislator, I'd suspect she holds some standing among her peers, the political wives' club and all that jazz - all that destroyed, especially since they're Republican and not from a major, open city.

Just terrible, she's going to have a terrible year or so.

Is there anyone in the Republican Party who's straight?



http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/2007/10/10292007_Curtis-denies-wrongdoing-says-he-is-not-gay.cfm

There's an article, can't find the CNN link I got the original from.

You don't have to be straight, to be against gay marriage. Being gay, and being against gay marriage does not make you a hypocrite.

That said, the Republicans are a queer group to be sure, and are succinctly sucky.

Traditional liberals? Yes, but they don't try to hide that.

Incorrect. Traditional (I take it you mean classical?) liberals favor limited government, a laissez faire economy (rather than an incestuous relationship between the state and big government), a peaceful foreign policy, and protection of civil liberties.

I think all these "gay reps" are not really reps, they're liberal agents planted into the party to show off their perversion but make it look like an accident that way the whole party looks hypocritical. Its another liberal conspiracy about controlling peoples' opinions.

Is there anyone in the Republican Party who's straight?



http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/2007/10/10292007_Curtis-denies-wrongdoing-says-he-is-not-gay.cfm

There's an article, can't find the CNN link I got the original from.

Possibly one of the Log Cabin Republicans.

This is why they're all 'gays are teh ebil'. Because they get off on having secret affairs that would land them in loads of trouble if they were found out.

Is there anyone in the Republican Party who's straight?
If by "straight" you mean "actually possessed of the Good Family Values which the Republican Party claims to uphold," then the answer is no. I don't think a single Republican, anywhere, has ever actually lived according to the Good Family Values that they attempt to force on everybody else.

If by "straight" you mean "actually possessed of the Good Family Values which the Republican Party claims to uphold," then the answer is no. I don't think a single Republican, anywhere, has ever actually lived according to the Good Family Values that they attempt to force on everybody else.

Why ever would they do such a thing? They make the rules for us to live by, not for themselves to live by. Duh :rolleyes:

;)

Why ever would they do such a thing? They make the rules for us to live by, not for themselves to live by. Duh :rolleyes:

;)
IOKIYAAR: It's OK If You Are A Republican.

Guiding principle of the USA since His Holiness President Reagan reigned in all his glory.

IOKIYAAR: It's OK If You Are A Republican.

Guiding principle of the USA since His Holiness President Reagan reigned in all his glory.
Oh how I wish that bastard actor had never been elected...he did more to harm the future of this country than anyone else since, except perhaps Bush. PERHAPS.

Unfortunately, that stupid "Reagonomics" hogwash will continue to plague us long after even the Iraq war is settled...:(

I think all these "gay reps" are not really reps, they're liberal agents planted into the party to show off their perversion but make it look like an accident that way the whole party looks hypocritical. Its another liberal conspiracy about controlling peoples' opinions.

Are you joking or insane?

Are you joking or insane?

Can't it be both?

I think all these "gay reps" are not really reps, they're liberal agents planted into the party to show off their perversion but make it look like an accident that way the whole party looks hypocritical. Its another liberal conspiracy about controlling peoples' opinions.

Why is everything a liberal conspiracy with you people?

You do know how stupid you sound/are?

Can't it be both?

Nah, that's your prerogative. ;)

Why is everything a liberal conspiracy with you people?

You do know how stupid you sound/are?

Every thing in life is actually just some sort of conspiracy or another, didnt you know?

I think all these "gay reps" are not really reps, they're liberal agents planted into the party to show off their perversion but make it look like an accident that way the whole party looks hypocritical. Its another liberal conspiracy about controlling peoples' opinions.No, these gay reps are just folks who due to an inferior upbringing hate what they are and try to fight it by joining a party soaked with homophobia. Someone should slap these gay reps' parents hard in the faces. And then these gay reps should be spanked for not using their own brains.

No, these gay reps are just folks who due to an inferior upbringing hate what they are and try to fight it by joining a party soaked with homophobia. Someone should slap these gay reps' parents hard in the faces. And then these gay reps should be spanked for not using their own brains.

Given the circumstances in which some of these guys have been outed. I'm doubtful that spanking would be a deterrent.

Given the circumstances in which some of these guys have been outed. I'm doubtful that spanking would be a deterrent.I suppose, outing someone as gay isn't as bad as outing someone as Republican.

Given the circumstances in which some of these guys have been outed. I'm doubtful that spanking would be a deterrent.

In fact, at least one will be outed on a spanking before this century is over.

Given the circumstances in which some of these guys have been outed. I'm doubtful that spanking would be a deterrent.

Okay, how about DEPRIVING them of a spanking?

90% of the "Republicans" in our government are closet-Liberals.

1) Learn what Liberalism is, I hate it when people hijack the work liberal to mean 'busy body socialist' when its real meaning is 'libertarian' - values which Republicans used to embrace.

2) Republicans are socialists in drag - they're the Stalin to the the Democrat being Lenin.

Okay, how about DEPRIVING them of a spanking?

Given how twisted these closet cases tend to be, I believe nothing short of a medically induced coma will appropriately punish them.

2) Republicans are socialists in drag - they're the Stalin to the the Democrat being Lenin.
Hahahaha...sure...if you mean people dressed up in poorly fitted costumes like wannabe Trekkies...HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA! :D

Are you joking or insane?

Troll. Its you extremists who are insane. I can tell you are a hardcore liberal because you were willing to leap to it's defense by using childish name calling, which might I add is prohibited on this forum.

Why is everything a liberal conspiracy with you people?

You do know how stupid you sound/are?

Flame. People? Your stupid for using plural instead of singular.

Troll



Flame. People? Your stupid for using plural instead of singular.

So in one post, not only do you fail to address any points, but you also flame back and criticize someone's grammar (yawn) while making your own grammatical error.

It's you're, not your by the way </elitist>.

So in one post, not only do you fail to address any points, but you also flame back and criticize someone's grammar (yawn) while making your own grammatical error.

It's you're, not your by the way </elitist>.

I edited

Troll. Its you extremists who are insane. I can tell you are a hardcore liberal because you were willing to leap to it's defense by using childish name calling, which might I add is prohibited on this forum.

You're claiming everything to be a "grand liberal conspiracy" - as if Republicans needed any help looking like hypocritical morons.

So, yes, I assumed you were joking. Because no one in their right mind would believe what you claim to believe.

The guys in these scandals are REPUBLICANS. Not "liberals". Not "liberals disguised as republicans". Just REPUBLICANS. And I'd appreciate if you stopped trying to rewrite history.

You're claiming everything to be a "grand liberal conspiracy" - as if Republicans needed any help looking like hypocritical morons.

So, yes, I assumed you were joking. Because no one in their right mind would believe what you claim to believe.

The guys in these scandals are REPUBLICANS. Not "liberals". Not "liberals disguised as republicans". Just REPUBLICANS. And I'd appreciate if you stopped trying to rewrite history.

So even when you were unsure as to whether or not I did believe or not, you decided to put in a random flame and call me insane just for the hell of it. Did it make you feel big, cute and funny? Did you want to upgrade your social status here by bashing the different guy? Is that it? :upyours:

Hmm I guess Curtis is gonna join the republican gays sex club with Craig and Haggard! :) I doesn't suprise me.

Here's the Wiki articel with refrences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Curtis

All Republicans love cock. All Democrats are gay.

So even when you were unsure as to whether or not I did believe or not, you decided to put in a random flame and call me insane just for the hell of it. Did it make you feel big, cute and funny? Did you want to upgrade your social status here by bashing the different guy? Is that it? :upyours:

Why don't you address my point instead of pretending to be offended as a sorry attempt to make people pity you? You're claiming that a guy would destroy his own personal life by "being caught" due to the "grand liberal conspiracy" as opposed to the fact that HE IS A REPUBLICAN.

All Republicans love cock.
Totally untrue. Good Republican women most certainly do NOT love cock. That might lead them to enjoy sex for their own personal pleasure, which is profoundly unladylike. Good Republican women endure sex so they can produce strong male heirs for their husbands. Good Republican women are careful to never do something as unseemly as enjoy doing it.

I think all these "gay reps" are not really reps, they're liberal agents planted into the party to show off their perversion but make it look like an accident that way the whole party looks hypocritical. Its another liberal conspiracy about controlling peoples' opinions.
Are you going to try and back up this wild assertion, or are you just going to complain about begin flamed.

Incidentally, there's this other forum, called moderation. That's generally where one complains about rule breaking.
Totally untrue. Good Republican women most certainly do NOT love cock. That might lead them to enjoy sex for their own personal pleasure, which is profoundly unladylike. Good Republican women endure sex so they can produce strong male heirs for their husbands. Good Republican women are careful to never do something as unseemly as enjoy doing it.

Women actually join the Republican party? How vile. What kind of upstanding lady is interested in politics? And worse, what kind of husband doesn't beat such notions out of his wife?

I really doubt that the GOP is the party of family values. So many sex scandals, even more than the Democrats in recent times, I hear (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_scandals_of_the_United_States#Sex_scandals.)
:p
Sure, Clinton had one and he was the PRESIDENT, but it's not like the Dems really claim to be the party of traditional family values. I'd bet that once the Republican Party splits up eventually (whenever that is), the divide will be between the social conservatives and the economic conservatives, and all the closeted gay republicans will go chill with the economic conservatives.

It's not because the republicans are in any way more oversexed than democrats. It's just because the Democratic Party's "base" is itself more open and accepting of sexuality, so we don't really care who the politicians in our party are fucking as it has little to do with their job.

I think all these "gay reps" are not really reps, they're liberal agents planted into the party to show off their perversion but make it look like an accident that way the whole party looks hypocritical. Its another liberal conspiracy about controlling peoples' opinions.

Yes, and don't forget to keep your helm of the mighty foil of tin upon your cranium, else the socialist federal government (specifically the members of such who work in the Pentagon) will both brainwash you into hanging on their every word and read your thoughts, which they will then share with the United Nations (which obviously is just a front for the Illuminati dominated NWO) and aliens (whom they have been in league with in secret for many years, Area 51 is actually an extra-terrestrial spa).

Yes, and don't forget to keep your helm of the mighty foil of tin upon your cranium, else the socialist federal government (specifically the members of such who work in the Pentagon) will both brainwash you into hanging on their every word and read your thoughts, which they will then share with the United Nations (which obviously is just a front for the Illuminati dominated NWO) and aliens (whom they have been in league with in secret for many years, Area 51 is actually an extra-terrestrial spa).
You should check out the mud-bath treatment there. It's so...convincing. I commented on it to Larry Craig just the other day while we were soaking in our mud wraps with the Uber-Liberal(tm) brand space-cucumber patches on our eyes.

It's not because the republicans are in any way more oversexed than democrats. It's just because the Democratic Party's "base" is itself more open and accepting of sexuality, so we don't really care who the politicians in our party are fucking as it has little to do with their job.

Ah, so you're Machiavellian? Good, good. I'd join you chaps if you weren't so controlling (political correctness, tobacco, guns, economy.) You're way too conservative there. Not as bad as the Republicans, but still....

Oh: and for Christs sake, stop trying to rehabilitate criminals! :p

Troll. Its you extremists who are insane. I can tell you are a hardcore liberal because you were willing to leap to it's defense by using childish name calling, which might I add is prohibited on this forum.



Flame. People? Your stupid for using plural instead of singular.

No, plural was right. I wasn't speaking only of you, I was speaking of all the neocons in the world.

Why don't you address my point instead of pretending to be offended as a sorry attempt to make people pity you? You're claiming that a guy would destroy his own personal life by "being caught" due to the "grand liberal conspiracy" as opposed to the fact that HE IS A REPUBLICAN.

Actually it had nothing to do with pity, I'm just really pissed off that you'd insult me prior to having any good reason. That kind of behavior is intolerable here. And about the liberal conspiracy.

It is happening (http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/453/)

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/hastert-rush/

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/browse_thread/thread/4f40346312f37473/c81c69648c818651

Well well..

No, plural was right. I wasn't speaking only of you, I was speaking of all the neocons in the world.

There is a liberal conspiracy, the preogressives were once good moderates but belligerent assholes took the group over and are now trying to force their faulty beleifs on anyone who isn't one of them. Their extreme belligerence and general pushiness suggests that there is an intellectual war going on. The further thought occurs that if they're willing to do that and manipulate the law and medical technology in favor of perverts that there is a liberal conspiracy going on which is meant to eliminate all who oppose this perversion of progressivism.

No, plural was right. I wasn't speaking only of you, I was speaking of all the neocons in the world.

You know, things like that are why I have lizardbrain on ignore.

Actually it had nothing to do with pity, I'm just really pissed off that you'd insult me prior to having any good reason. That kind of behavior is intolerable here. And about the liberal conspiracy.

It is happening (http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/453/)

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/hastert-rush/

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/browse_thread/thread/4f40346312f37473/c81c69648c818651

Well well..

You'd have a great point, save for:

1- You have no credibility.

2- Your claims have no credibility.

3- The links you provided have no credibility.

4- A Republican was, indeed, caught in a sex scandal with a man. A Republican. Conservative. That's what they do, they do one thing and say another.

You'd have a great point, save for:

1- You have no credibility.

2- Your claims have no credibility.

3- The links you provided have no credibility.

4- A Republican was, indeed, caught in a sex scandal with a man. A Republican. Conservative. That's what they do, they do one thing and say another.

And why would you say my links have no credibility?

And why would you say my links have no credibility?

In case it wasn't obvious, Dennis Hastert, for one, was among the accused and decided to blame liberals as a smoke bomb. The other link is one by a conspiracy theory website and the first one says exactly the opposite of what you think it does.

In case it wasn't obvious, Dennis Hastert, for one, was among the accused and decided to blame liberals as a smoke bomb. The other link is one by a conspiracy theory website and the first one says exactly the opposite of what you think it does.

Whats so incorrect about conspiracy theory websites?

Whats so incorrect about conspiracy theory websites?

They start with belief X and then set out to "prove" X disregarding any and all evidence to Y.

For one.

And they're made, created, kept and read by, nutcases.

It's getting to seem like the straightest members of the Republican Party are the Log Cabin folks...
And about the liberal conspiracy.

It is happening (http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/453/)
An article about the overall lack of one?

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/hastert-rush/

Foley blaming his boy diddling on a liberal conspiracy?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/browse_thread/thread/4f40346312f37473/c81c69648c818651

And wtf?

Well well..
Well well what? What the hell was that supposed to prove?

They start with belief X and then set out to "prove" X disregarding any and all evidence to Y.

For one.

And they're made, created, kept and read by, nutcases.

There has to be at least some who base their claims on facts and things they've witnessed. Lets face it, conspiracies exist, ore else the governments of the world wouldn't have secret service people keeping things secret. Some are right, whose to say all conspiracy theory websites are rubbish. One might be bang on.

And secondly I know there is a liberal conspiracy out to control the world. Germany and Japan were two culturally different nations on two different hemispheres of the globe. According to what I've learned in history liberals in both nations near the same time frame started pulling the usual crud "bashing the country and siding with it's enemies, destroying morals which science has already proven were part of our natural survival mechanism. The only way both countries could deal with this inner enemy, this malignant cancer of society was to resort to fascism. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, the lefties pushed, the others shoved. They became equally fanatical and evil, and they became the opposite of these new foes. Is it coincidence that two different nations with different backgrounds became fascist at times not so far apart, that both even though being racially predjudiced against each other(thus making them ovoid asking each other for advice on how to rule) operated nearly the same way as each other? Both had their version of the gestapo and SS. And the reason for the left of doing this is simple, the evil fascists commit atrocities and then the lefties say to the world that that's what non-liberal people do. The people then say "I don't want to be evil" then join. Thats why whenever someone disagrees with a liberal, the liberal calls him/her a "fascist bigot" in hopes that he/she will convert.

Snip.

You think you can bore me out by making increasingly insane claims in the hopes I just give up? Think again.

You think you can bore me out by making increasingly insane claims in the hopes I just give up? Think again.

It's true though, both nations did become incredibly similar despite the fact that their management seldom exchanged ideas. Theres no way that happened by coincidence.

It's true though, both nations did become incredibly similar despite the fact that their management seldom exchanged ideas. Theres no way that happened by coincidence.

Agreed; It was a worldwide CONSERVATIVE conspiracy to make the world into the dystopia conservatives want.

I have as much proof as you do.

Agreed; It was a worldwide CONSERVATIVE conspiracy to make the world into the dystopia conservatives want.

I have as much proof as you do.

Why would conservatives blatantly go around with and fight a war that'll make them look bad? Besides the conservatives around the wrold being as hard headed as they are wouldn't unite for a single cause since they have differing values since they'd be arguing all the time,Germany and Japan saw each other as insuperior and wouldn't cooperate well enough for a conservative conspiracy to exist. In fact it was Japan's incoroperative and decision to bomb Pearl Harbo which ulatamtely cost the axis side the war. I watched the documentaries, the citizens in both countries who were converatives didn't want to go around killing people in the name of their nation at first, after the liberals pushed them they became like that. Ever hear of that one riot in Munich before WWII and the nazi party? Liberals asssaulted non-liberal citezens and moderates and conservatives fought back, it got so out of hand the army had to step in to break up the riot causing over 300 deaths. That incident made Germany weaker since the army had to stop riots instead of guarding the borders, which was difficult since the Treaty of Versailles was limiting the number of troops the army could have. The lefty fanatics destabalised the nation further, sided with foreigners who hated Germans and then assaulted civillians. The people had enough.

Snip.

The Nazis were conservatives. And militarism is conservative as well. The point is you have no proof of a "liberal conspiracy" in WWII EITHER.

I won't discuss your insane conspiracy theories here. Or anywhere else for that matter.

The Nazis were conservatives. And militarism is conservative as well. The point is you have no proof of a "liberal conspiracy" in WWII EITHER.

I won't discuss your insane conspiracy theories here. Or anywhere else for that matter.

Correction, militarism is human, also if there weren't any left wing fanatics instigating anything the conservatives wouldn't have had any excuse and would have laid low thus preventing WWII from ever have happening.

Correction, militarism is human, also if there weren't any left wing fanatics instigating anything the conservatives wouldn't have had any excuse and would have laid low thus preventing WWII from ever have happening.

So you're actually blaming the actions of CONSERVATIVES on LIBERALS?

That's the equivalent of:

"But your honor, my client just had to rape her, after all, SHE WAS THERE!"

Save yourself the embarrassment and quit.

So you're actually blaming the actions of CONSERVATIVES on LIBERALS?

That's the equivalent of:

"But your honor, my client just had to rape her, after all, SHE WAS THERE!"

Save yourself the embarrassment and quit.

You know how reactive conservatives are, they only bite when provoked and it seems the lefties were purposefully provoking them. This is different from when people provoke them by accident. If it was accidental it would have only resulted in the righties slapping their wrists and barking.

You know how reactive conservatives are, they only bite when provoked and it seems the lefties were purposefully provoking them. This is different from when people provoke them by accident. If it was accidental it would have only resulted in the righties slapping their wrists and barking.

YOU CALL FIFTY MILLION DEAD "A REACTION"? AND YOU DARE TO BLAME THE ACTIONS ON THE LIBERALS?

I'm done with you, you're not worthy of my attention!

YOU CALL FIFTY MILLION DEAD "SLAPPING THEIR WRISTS"? AND YOU DARE TO BLAME THE ACTIONS ON THE LIBERALS?

I'm done with you, you're not worthy of my attention!

So it is possible to make you give up by saying increasingly crazy things.

You know how reactive conservatives are, they only bite when provoked and it seems the lefties were purposefully provoking them. This is different from when people provoke them by accident. If it was accidental it would have only resulted in the righties slapping their wrists and barking.

That's quite possibly the sickest thing you've ever said.

That's quite possibly the sickest thing you've ever said.

And that's saying something. He went to my Ignore list.

That's quite possibly the sickest thing you've ever said.

I know what the people in the documentaries and the history articles said.

So it is possible to make you give up by saying increasingly crazy things.

There's crazy and then there's repulsive.

There's crazy and then there's repulsive.

I'm almost tempted to read his comments, but then I realize I really don't care. :D

I dont really acre if they're gay. It just that they lie to us. F*ckers.

I'm almost tempted to read his comments, but then I realize I really don't care. :D

He basically said the Nazis were merely "reacting" to "liberals".

What the fuck? Did StormFront produce a documentary or something?

I don't think even Stormfront is that insane.

I know what the people in the documentaries and the history articles said.

What the fuck? Did StormFront produce a documentary or something?

I think all these "gay reps" are not really reps, they're liberal agents planted into the party to show off their perversion but make it look like an accident that way the whole party looks hypocritical. Its another liberal conspiracy about controlling peoples' opinions.

Sounds resonable.

Sounds resonable.

Hello, SL's puppet.

Hello, SL's puppet.

Don't you mean "Goodbye SL's puppet"?

Hello, SL's puppet.

If he was my puppet he would have posted in II more often to spice up RP storylines.

Ahh, I see SL is as batshit crazy as always

Just like how all of the conservative leaning Democrats are conservative plants to make the Democrats look like idiots.

Hi Arty! *waves*

Ahh, I see SL is as batshit crazy as always

Ahhh...yes everyone with a differing opinion MUST ALWAYS be crazy especially if it disagrees with the good 'ol majority. Man I feel guilty now, the majority has never EVER done anything to harm people before. :rolleyes:

Ahhh...yes everyone with a differing opinion MUST ALWAYS be crazy

Differing opinion? No.

Absolutly totally fucking nonsensical opinion? That's different.

You are solidly in the absolutly totally fucking nonsensical world.

Differing opinion? No.

Absolutly totally fucking nonsensical opinion? That's different.

You are solidly in the absolutly totally fucking nonsensical world.

With the amount of liberal belligerance and strong animosity for non-liberals are you telling me that they do not want world domination? Heck it's in our tribalistic nature to want the group we may be a part of to smash all the other ones. Seeing that liberalism is pretty big right now and how many of them, some on this very forum, have blatantly expressed their anticipation for a 100% liberal world. When people want something bad they do something to get it, if a large group of people want something bad but can't get it through conventional means legally, they conspire.

S.L. is adorable! can I keep him?

S.L. is adorable! can I keep him?

No....I bite. :p

With the amount of liberal belligerance and strong animosity for non-liberals are you telling me that they do not want world domination?

You haven't even provided a working, functional definition of "liberal" and now you presume to speak about what liberals, as a collective group, all want?

You haven't even provided a working, functional definition of "liberal" and now you presume to speak about what liberals, as a collective group, all want?

He's onto us Art. We can't hide it any longer. *Sends out psychic message to all liberals to start the revolution*

No....I bite. :p

I have a nice muzzle for you until you learn how to treat your liberal master right

He's onto us Art. We can't hide it any longer. *Sends out psychic message to all liberals to start the revolution*

dude, smoking weed and having sex with men is not a psychic message. This is the problem with liberals

It's a perfectly valid goal for a revolution. *crosses arms* hmmpf

I have a nice muzzle for you until you learn how to treat your liberal master right

Sorry, the conservatives already bought me with their dirty money. :D

And btw, after thinking it over, what I just did was not insane, I merely recalled all the terrible things I've read and heard of liberals and well you know the saying "if it bleeds it leads". You lefties do it too. You read and hear about the conservatives who rape, suicide bomb, brainwash, are racist and bigoted and then you believe that ALL conservatives are like that when in reality the moderates do not do those terrible things that you liberals hate conservatives for. The moderate conservatives believe in their religion, stay true to it's rules and generally lay low and live their lives as normal people barely having any confrontation whatsoever. For example a Catholic may practice in private and stay true to the rules yet when dealing with other people he would just act as a normal person and leave his religion out of other peoples' lives.

So I read about liberals who help criminals and screw up the justice and education system, and the ones who say out loud "I hate straight and Christian people and hope they go to hell" and those who say any non-liberal should be either eliminated or converted, the ones who blatantly say "Everyone should be liberal and those who aren't should perish", and yes I've read about how they promote perverted acts which science has proven is bad for human health, and the ones who try to brainwash others with their ideology and I did the same thing you did, bunched all you with the bad ones and jumped to conclusions based on the facts that bled. With all the sites telling me about liberal belligerence and how they misuse advanced technology like stem cell research (used for the leisure of perverts rather than for medicine which is first priority) and the gay bomb. Seriously why waste money on trying to make others perverts with a bomb when the microwave hummer the US cooked up would be more effective and faster in neutralizing all hostiles in the area unless the war was just and excuse for them to develop the damn thing.

I admit I grouped all you lefties into the ebil liberal-fascist bunch, but you must realise that you have bunched all conservatives into the hardcore, uptight, greedy, raping, and hypocritical bunch. We're not guilty of insanity, just human nature.

I have a nice muzzle for you until you learn how to treat your liberal master right
Remember not to get water on him/her, not to feed him/her after midnight ... what was that other thing?

So I read about liberals who help criminals and screw up the justice and education system, and the ones who say out loud "I hate straight and Christian people and hope they go to hell" and those who say any non-liberal should be either eliminated or converted, the ones who blatantly say "Everyone should be liberal and those who aren't should perish", and yes I've read about how they promote perverted acts which science has proven is bad for human health, and the ones who try to brainwash others with their ideology and I did the same thing you did, bunched all you with the bad ones and jumped to conclusions based on the facts that bled. With all the sites telling me about liberal belligerence and how they misuse advanced technology like stem cell research (used for the leisure of perverts rather than for medicine which is first priority) and the gay bomb. Seriously why waste money on trying to make others perverts with a bomb when the microwave hummer the US cooked up would be more effective and faster in neutralizing all hostiles in the area unless the war was just and excuse for them to develop the damn thing.

This is the single stupidest thing I've ever read.

Another thread derailed by a troll. When are you people going to learn not to feed these noisy critters??!!

Anyway, the point is this: Another rightwing conservative Republican got caught with his hands on someone else's dick, and that's a good and entertaining thing. Let's see how many more we can find. It's like an Easter egg hunt. :D

This is the single stupidest thing I've ever read.

Thats what you say about any non-liberal thing said. How is it stupid, thats what liberals do, I can't add the other bad things they do to the list because you people either beleive the actions I'd list are not bad, good or both.

So you think that getting pissed off at the left for using medicine for leisure and building a bomb that can force their sexual orientation on others is stupid. I value free will and I love it when new medicines and cures come out, and how is someone free if they become chemically. Secondly I was outraged when I learned that the democrat party was funding research for lesbian pregnancies when it should have been for paralysis victims. There could be people who have been paralyzed for years walking with us today but no to the left making the minority happy is more important than helping a wounded human being rise up on his/her own feet and climbing out of the suffering he/she had been entrenched in. Anyone who could condone such misuse of technology is an inhuman monster!

I'm as sure as hell the GOP wouldn't have authorised this being all religious and all. (http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_159222541.html)

...And btw, after thinking it over, what I just did was not insane, I merely recalled all the terrible things I've read and heard of liberals...



So your insane rant defense is that you were misled by other insane rants?

So you think that getting pissed off at the left for using medicine for leisure and building a bomb that can force their sexual orientation on others is stupid.
Since neither of those happened, yes, it's fucking stupid. Where did you get the twisted stillbirth that is that statement from anyways? I mean, Jesus Christ. What the hell?

Since neither of those happened, yes, it's fucking stupid. Where did you get the twisted stillbirth that is that statement from anyways? I mean, Jesus Christ. What the hell?

one of those is on post 110, the other I am searching for. It was on general a few months ago.

I'm as sure as hell the GOP wouldn't have authorised this being all religious and all. (http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_159222541.html)

actually, nobody authorized it. And if you had bothered to read, you would have noticed that this was requested by the military, a traditionally highly conservative organization.

It was propsed to congress but never approved. More importantly it was proposed, but never accepted, by the 1994 congress. A democrat majority congress.

Failed.

one of those is on post 110, the other I am searching for. It was on general a few months ago.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The bomb was never built because it was impossible. And no, it wasn't your left that came up with the idea. It was the conservatives, since they're the ones who think that sexuality can be altered. And they're the ones who think that homosexuals are sex fiends. Seriously, you're grasping at straws, kiddo.

actually, nobody authorized it. And if you had bothered to read, you would have noticed that this was requested by the military, a traditionally highly conservative organization.

It was propsed to congress but never approved. More importantly it was proposed, but never accepted, by the 1994 congress. A democrat majority congress.

Failed.

Why would a conservative military crusading against Muslim extremists in the form of Al Queda want to turn them gay when they have the technology to stun them with that microwave hummer they cooked up?

Why would a conservative military crusading against Muslim extremists in the form of Al Queda want to turn them gay when they have the technology to stun them with that microwave hummer they cooked up?

It's difficult to point out the magnatude of errors in this post, both from a tactical, and plain common sense perspective, but I will point out this.

You do know that 2001 came after 1994, right? That the first test of those microwave humvees was about 7 years after this proposal, right?

You get that much, don't you?

Secondly I was outraged when I learned that the democrat party was funding research for lesbian pregnancies when it should have been for paralysis victims.
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Anyone who could condone such misuse of technology is an inhuman monster!
You mean like how you're using your computer to post your nonsensical rants instead of using its power for more productive means?

Technology is not a fixed commodity, there are no 'technology points' which are supposed to be allocated to different causes.

You mean like how you're using your computer to post your nonsensical rants instead of using its power for more productive means?

Technology is not a fixed commodity, there are no 'technology points' which are supposed to be allocated to different causes.

What you fail to realize is that I was reffering to medicine and genetic technology. The ability to play God and tamper with the way people are by nature and the way things grow, and to misuse medicine is a matter of not just life and death but also, a matter of free will. If we can control each other's natures and carnal with technology then no one is free anymore. The gay bomb and the misuse of stem cell technology is just the first step to a hellish future.

The gay bomb and the misuse of stem cell technology is just the first step to a hellish future.
There is no goddamn gay bomb. It was never made. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of sexuality would know that it could never be made. And you've never even explained what you meant by that stem cell shit.

I vote we stop talking to our inferiors. I did my part.

I vote we stop talking to our inferiors. I did my part.

I don't know, this is by far the best thread I've ever made. I'm enjoy it, kind of like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Or the video of the tsunami, just watching the water rise.

What you fail to realize is that I was reffering to medicine and genetic technology. The ability to play God and tamper with the way people are by nature and the way things grow, and to misuse medicine is a matter of not just life and death but also, a matter of free will. If we can control each other's natures and carnal with technology then no one is free anymore. The gay bomb and the misuse of stem cell technology is just the first step to a hellish future.

I suppose this mythical gay bomb will not only turn people into gays but stereotypical gays as well, who are worse soldiers then women with their annoying voices and limp wrists? I suppose this is what you are getting at?

I'm going to have to agree with Cthulhu, your little rant is among the stupidest things I've ever heard.

Gay bomb? Enola Gay? Republicans all the way...

I suppose this mythical gay bomb will not only turn people into gays but stereotypical gays as well, who are worse soldiers then women with their annoying voices and limp wrists? I suppose this is what you are getting at?

I'm going to have to agree with Cthulhu, your little rant is among the stupidest things I've ever heard.

A Gay Bomb that works like that would require considerable advances in biology and chemistry that can cook up a pheromone strong enough to overpower and rewire a human being's sexual inclinations. With what we have, the best we'll be able to come up with is a Boner Bomb.

There is no goddamn gay bomb. It was never made. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of sexuality would know that it could never be made. And you've never even explained what you meant by that stem cell shit.

Didn't you know that stem cells are used to create cybernetic genetic mutants intent on killing "non-liberals"? It's just common sense and if you don't think I'm right that means you're an ultra hard core liberal who thinks anyone who disagrees with you is wrong and whats wrong with conspiracy theories anyway you're just afraid that I'm right also did you know that the liberals are controlling our minds and making us say moronic things on a daily basis?

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE MAN!

This is the single stupidest thing I've ever read.

Just wait.

This is the single stupidest thing I've ever read.

This makes Graham Chapman spin in his grave.

I vote we stop talking to our inferiors. I did my part.

Liar. You're a regular here. :p

A Gay Bomb that works like that would require considerable advances in biology and chemistry that can cook up a pheromone strong enough to overpower and rewire a human being's sexual inclinations. With what we have, the best we'll be able to come up with is a Boner Bomb.

That's where Viagra comes from...

Just wait.

Oh, I don't need to wait any longer. I read something written by Hovind by accident.

Oh, I don't need to wait any longer. I read something written by Hovind by accident.

why the hell would you do that?

Oh, I don't need to wait any longer. I read something written by Hovind by accident.

Remember: attitude is the difference between an adventure and an ordeal.
:p

You're right though ... you knocked it up a notch. :eek:

why the hell would you do that?

Hovind's moved into internet pop-ups! :eek:

Hovind's moved into internet pop-ups! :eek:

if that's the case we might as well all commit mass suicide

I'll get the guillotines

if that's the case we might as well all commit mass suicide

I'll get the guillotines
D'rat .... all i have are those cigar snippers.
Only certain things are gonna fit in those ... omg :eek:

It'll be a lot of snipping before we're done.