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Are negroids smarter?

Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:17
We have the "Are Jews smarter?" thread, now we ask are black people superior

The Ethiopians (name for all black people), Being in all else wiser than other men," invented astrology and taught it to the Egyptians"

-Lucian, Greek historian

Now while the southern peoples are of acute intelligence and infinite resource, they give way when courage is demanded because their strength is drained away by the sun; but those who are born in colder regions by their fearless courage are better equipped for the clash of arms, yet by their slowness of mind they rush on without reflection, and through lack of tactics are balked of their purpose…Italy presents good qualities which are tempered by admixture from either side both north and south, and are consequently unsurpassed. And so, by its policy, it curbs the courage of the northern barbarians; by its strength, the imaginative south. Thus the divine mind has allotted to the Roman state an excellent and temperate region in order to rule the world.

Vitruvius Polio

http://endingstereotypesforamerica.org/black_and_white_intelligence.html

More quotes are at the end of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H81eBWMYgtk

And if anyone says the quotes are stupid or unscientific will duh they are freaking stereotypes!

added:
Watch these educational videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FciCAXYWx3s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6171YYEhuI

There is a statue of a negro at the end of the 2nd video in a German cathedral

Also this last video, somewhere in the video Europeans show high regard for Africans and their cities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M0xTgJWwW4
Brutland and Norden
30-10-2007, 16:18
Copycat thread, much? :D
Hammurab
30-10-2007, 16:20
What's a negroid? Sounds like something Uncle Ruckus would be against.


If negroids are those cyborg black guys in that video game, then yes, they are smarter.
Liminus
30-10-2007, 16:24
Wait...this thread isn't about Spanish black robots? Or Splackbots, as they are more commonly known as? I need to recast my vote. :(
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:25
What's a negroid? Sounds like something Uncle Ruckus would be against.


If negroids are those cyborg black guys in that video game, then yes, they are smarter.

Negroid=negro
Corneliu 2
30-10-2007, 16:26
Very nice racist poll. And copycat threads are not allowed.
Logitemos
30-10-2007, 16:26
Smarter then what? Rocks? My mother?
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:29
Very nice racist poll. And copycat threads are not allowed.

the point is stereotypes change over time and thus the idea Jews are smarter might change 100 years from now
The Parkus Empire
30-10-2007, 16:29
So let me get this straight: I'm a Nazi if I don't think blacks are "smart-er" then the rest of us?
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:30
Smarter then what? Rocks? My mother?

I don't know same as Jewish one
Corneliu 2
30-10-2007, 16:30
So let me get this straight: I'm a Nazi if I don't think blacks are "smart-er" then the rest of us?

Pretty much!
Hammurab
30-10-2007, 16:32
Negroid=negro

See, I disagree with that. Until the necessary nano-therapies are applied to adjust the dendrite configurations and prepare the glial cells to accept the onboard targeting computer, a black guy is just a black guy.

I would also point out that most negroes accepted into the Cybernetic Warfare Division program are drawn from a rigorously selected group, with a criteria by no means limited to physical suitable.

Managing and coping with having a high end computer system in your head, as well as using and maintaining advanced fusion weaponry requires tremendous mental acumen, and I believe most Negroids have advanced degrees in disciplines ranging from Computer Science, to Biochemistry, to Electrical Engineering.

Negroes, on the other hand, or the same as other mere humans.
Hamilay
30-10-2007, 16:32
Um, I'm pretty sure the poll is a joke.
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:33
So let me get this straight: I'm a Nazi if I don't think blacks are "smart-er" then the rest of us?

The poll isn't meant to be taken seriously, I voted Heil Hitler myself :D
The Parkus Empire
30-10-2007, 16:33
Pretty much!

Jeez, Hitler should have used this method.

"If you don't believe Aryans are der http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/150138823931_1.jpg, then you are a Nazi!"
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:35
Negroes, on the other hand, or the same as other mere humans.

I agree but negro comes from negroid, or other way around or something

I'm not racist I don't believe in race
Corneliu 2
30-10-2007, 16:37
I'm still trying to figure out where the word negroid comes from.
Wilgrove
30-10-2007, 16:37
Where's the "I don't care" option?
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:40
I'm still trying to figure out where the word negroid comes from.

All the people in the world were clasified into 3 races, mongoloid (from Asia which would include native Americans who came from Asia) Caucasoid (Europeans) and Negroid (Africans and were classified as just above Apes)

I'm not a geneticist but I think it's all been debunked
The blessed Chris
30-10-2007, 16:41
So let me get this straight: I'm a Nazi if I don't think blacks are "smart-er" then the rest of us?

Yep. It's a moronically simple way for any half-baked left wing idealist to claim the moral high ground; shout Nazi at anybody who disgarees with them.
Australomerica
30-10-2007, 16:41
IQ says no.
Corneliu 2
30-10-2007, 16:41
All the people in the world were clasified into 3 races, mongoloid (from Asia which would include native Americans who came from Asia) Caucasoid (Europeans) and Negroid (Africans and were classified as just above Apes)

I'm not a geneticist but I think it's all been debunked

Yea probably. Care to prove your assertion?
Burlovia
30-10-2007, 16:41
Lots of nazis here :)
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:50
Yep. It's a moronically simple way for any half-baked left wing idealist to claim the moral high ground; shout Nazi at anybody who disgarees with them.

What are you talking about? No one here thinks black people are smarter including myself.

Loosen up
Australomerica
30-10-2007, 16:51
All the people in the world were clasified into 3 races, mongoloid (from Asia which would include native Americans who came from Asia) Caucasoid (Europeans) and Negroid (Africans and were classified as just above Apes)

I'm not a geneticist but I think it's all been debunked

Actually it's not debunked. We know modern human variation isn't just aesthetic. Blacks have on average 500 million fewer cortical neurons than Whites, and 600 million fewer than Asians. Smarter? Not quite.
The Parkus Empire
30-10-2007, 16:52
Yep. It's a moronically simple way for any half-baked left wing idealist to claim the moral high ground; shout Nazi at anybody who disgarees with them.

I know you're a gung-ho type Chris, but let's remember what happened to the French when they charged the German machine gun bunkers in WWII.

The mods may be observing you. They don't like generalizations of this type.
The blessed Chris
30-10-2007, 16:54
What are you talking about? No one here thinks black people are smarter including myself.

Loosen up

Wonderful. Nobody, on a forum that leans further left than a TUC conference, believes in race. How strange that is.

You still haven't addressed the issue of the Nazi Card. Unoriginal "pisstake" thread or nor, your use of the Nazi card betrays a trend that truly is vexing.
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:54
Actually it's not debunked. We know modern human variation isn't just aesthetic. Blacks have on average 500 million fewer cortical neurons than Whites, and 600 million fewer than Asians. Smarter? Not quite.

But black people as a group are equal to any other human group, history proves this
The blessed Chris
30-10-2007, 16:56
I know you're a gung-ho type Chris, but let's remember what happened to the French when they charged the German machine gun bunkers in WWII.

The mods may be observing you. They don't like generalizations of this type.

Good for them. I'm fairly sure my statement didn't break forum rules.

All the same, point taken.
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 16:57
Wonderful. Nobody, on a forum that leans further left than a TUC conference, believes in race. How strange that is.

You still haven't addressed the issue of the Nazi Card. Unoriginal "pisstake" thread or nor, your use of the Nazi card betrays a trend that truly is vexing.

A) Satire - Why is it more acceptable to think Jews are smarter than to think blacks are smarter even though historicly black people have achieved many great things and were admired by early Europeans

B) do not take the poll seriously!
The blessed Chris
30-10-2007, 16:58
But black people as a group are equal to any other human group, history proves this

How?

I'm not about to suggest the contrary, however, I'd be interested to see what "history" allows you to make such a sweeping statement; indeed, you don't even bother to define upon what grounds they are equal.
Hammurab
30-10-2007, 16:59
I know you're a gung-ho type Chris, but let's remember what happened to the French when they charged the German machine gun bunkers in WWII.


See, that's because the French didn't have Negroids. Negroids have advanced sub-dermal armor that makes them highly resistant to conventional field weaponry.
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:01
How?

I'm not about to suggest the contrary, however, I'd be interested to see what "history" allows you to make such a sweeping statement; indeed, you don't even bother to define upon what grounds they are equal.

The original post has two links
Australomerica
30-10-2007, 17:01
Why is it more acceptable to think Jews are smarter than to think blacks are smarter even though historicly black people have achieved many great things and were admired by early Europeans

do not take the poll seriously!

Say what? Black people were enslaved, not admired. How many ancient sculptures or paintings are there in Europe of positive imagery of Black civilization? They don't exist.
OceanDrive2
30-10-2007, 17:09
So let me get this straight: I'm a Nazi if I don't think blacks are "smart-er" then the rest of us?You are a racist if you promote the notion that a particular race is smarter/Superior than the other races, or that it is the "chosen one"..
For example the claim claims the Aryan race in Chosen/smarter whatever.. Is a stupid racist claim.
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:11
Say what? Black people were enslaved, not admired. How many ancient sculptures or paintings are there in Europe of positive imagery of Black civilization? They don't exist.

Watch these educational videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FciCAXYWx3s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6171YYEhuI

There is a statue of a negro at the end of the 2nd video in a German cathedral

Did you bother looking at my original post?

Also this video, somewhere in the video Europeans show high regard for Africans and their cities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M0xTgJWwW4
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:14
In Herodotus’ historories he says the Nubians (he calls them Ethiopians) are said to be the tallest most handsome of all men.

Also blacks being enslaved doesn't mean much because I was talking about early Europeans
The Parkus Empire
30-10-2007, 17:14
You are a racist if you promote the notion that a particular race is smarter/Superior than the other races, or that it is the "chosen one"..
For example If ParkusEmpire says the Aryan race in Chosen/smarter whatever..Then I say ParkusEmpire is a stupid Racist.

What part dont you understand?

I understand this. But according to this thread if you don't think "Negroids" are superior/more intelligent then others, you're a Nazi.
The blessed Chris
30-10-2007, 17:15
Watch these educational videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FciCAXYWx3s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6171YYEhuI

There is a statue of a negro at the end of the 2nd video in a German cathedral

Did you bother looking at my original post?

Also this video, somewhere in the video Europeans show high regard for Africans and their cities

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M0xTgJWwW4

This is of no consequence. The overall tone of two millenia of European history regarding Africa is disdainful, xenophobic and, for that matter, to the strict interpretation of the term, racist.

I caould find exceptions to any general rule; they are of no consequence to the rule itself. Indeed, that they are of note suggests that the rule itself is strong.
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:17
This is of no consequence. The overall tone of two millenia of European history regarding Africa is disdainful, xenophobic and, for that matter, to the strict interpretation of the term, racist.

I caould find exceptions to any general rule; they are of no consequence to the rule itself. Indeed, that they are of note suggests that the rule itself is strong.

I disagree, I believe it was a situation of mutual respect untill the trans-atlantic slave trade heated up
The Parkus Empire
30-10-2007, 17:18
I disagree, I believe it was a situation of mutual respect untill the trans-atlantic slave trade heated up

Heh. Africa had slaves, and Europe had slaves. It's not like "okay now we whiteys enslave the blacks!" Both people had had slavery for a long time by then.
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:19
The Greeks certainly loved black people anyway

Again see original post
The blessed Chris
30-10-2007, 17:19
I disagree, I believe it was a situation of mutual respect untill the trans-atlantic slave trade heated up

Care to elaborate. I can make unsubstantiated statements with neither logical nor factual support as well, it doesn't make them of any more merit.
Corneliu 2
30-10-2007, 17:23
But black people as a group are equal to any other human group, history proves this

back it up with evidence.
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:24
Care to elaborate. I can make unsubstantiated statements with neither logical nor factual support as well, it doesn't make them of any more merit.

I have sources and you don't thats how

For the Ethiopians (Greek and Roman name for all Negroid people) are said to be the justest men and for that reason the gods leave their abode frequently to visit them.
-Lactantius Placidus, a 6th century AD grammarian

again look the sources I have on the original post

Greeks loved blacks

http://endingstereotypesforamerica.org/black_and_white_morality.html
The blessed Chris
30-10-2007, 17:25
The Greeks certainly loved black people anyway

Again see original post

No. They viewed the Ethiopans as a mythical curio; essentially, not unlike the "noble savages" so evident in Shakespeare.

Comparison with Ethiopians was intended either to shame, or praise, individual Greeks or society at large; the same is true for Roman sources describing "barbarians".
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:26
Read what Herodotus says about black people in his histories, he says they are said to be the most handsome of all men
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:27
No. They viewed the Ethiopans as a mythical curio; essentially, not unlike the "noble savages" so evident in Shakespeare.

Comparison with Ethiopians was intended either to shame, or praise, individual Greeks or society at large; the same is true for Roman sources describing "barbarians".

Go to your library and get a copy of his histories yourself, I want non stormfront sources from you
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:29
No. They viewed the Ethiopans as a mythical curio; essentially, not unlike the "noble savages" so evident in Shakespeare.


They were not noble savages they were highly Civilized

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FciCAXYWx3s

note: About video, some people say Egyptions turned black because of race mixing and thats why Greeks saw Egyptions as black, lets just ignore Egypt. /shrug

The video talks about Nubia
Corneliu 2
30-10-2007, 17:30
They were not noble savages they were highly Civilized

Oh brother. :rolleyes:
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:33
Oh brother. :rolleyes:

hmm?
OceanDrive2
30-10-2007, 17:37
I understand this.So you do understand that claiming Chosen status or superiority (Jews/race X is smarter than all the others races) is racist.
Markeliopia
30-10-2007, 17:40
If anyone wants to escape from the mentality that the entire history of the black man is mud huts and cotton picking I recomend the book

"African Kingdoms" by Basil Davidson
The blessed Chris
30-10-2007, 18:04
Go to your library and get a copy of his histories yourself, I want non stormfront sources from you

Me= late anitquity history student.

I'm assuming your not, in which case I'll thank you not to prech to me about that which I am more informed.

You cannot apply the same virtues with which you piss your life away on here to classical authors; they were concerned primairly either with social or political commentary, and their histories and travel writings reflect this concern.
Corneliu 2
30-10-2007, 18:07
Me= late anitquity history student.

I'm assuming your not, in which case I'll thank you not to prech to me about that which I am more informed.

You cannot apply the same virtues with which you piss your life away on here to classical authors; they were concerned primairly either with social or political commentary, and their histories and travel writings reflect this concern.

Busted!
The blessed Chris
30-10-2007, 18:08
Read what Herodotus says about black people in his histories, he says they are said to be the most handsome of all men

And you, presumably, are so shallow so as to believe this to be some form of panegyric?

To the classical greek, handsomeness was not so important or becoming as culture, philosophy and virtue. Handsomeness was much the same a quality as excessive valour; that which is all very admirable, but not preferable to moderation, reason and culture.
Euroslavia
30-10-2007, 18:26
We're done here.


Consider this a verbal warning, as you're pushing the line with trolling.