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The guy drew pictures for it and some of them resembled some modern leaders. One had a guy that looked just like Hitler and another showing a giant caricature of a Pope being attacked by a little Turkish guy.

Another picture showed a caricature of someone who looks like Bush leading an army of armored horses into Mesopotamia.

Supposedly the book was locked up in the basement of the Vatican all these years and reading it is punishable by excommunication.

They're showing it on History channel. Anyone else seen it yet?

Has anyone seen the Lost Book itself? Or been able to get a copy of it????

I have no real opinion Nostrodamus, actually. If you say enough things, some of them will come true.

I predicted this thread would appear.

I predicted this thread would appear.

Did you draw it?

ZOMG 2012 IS GOING TO EAT US ALL! RUN FROM THE MAYAN GODS WHO WILL DESCEND UPON THE WORLD AND FRY US ALL ON A GIANT GRILL WITH HOTDOGS AND TOAST!
Also, aliens, black helicopters and government mind control.

I predicted this thread would appear.

lol

I wonder if Nostradamus sketched us having a forum about his book...

By the by, anyone find it suspicious that the Catholic church would keep a book about a man that supposedly predicted things far enough in the future through all of the years long enough for a historical society to gain access to it instead of just burning it?

Didn't think so.

I wonder if Nostradamus sketched us having a forum about his book...

By the by, anyone find it suspicious that the Catholic church would keep a book about a man that supposedly predicted things far enough in the future through all of the years long enough for a historical society to gain access to it instead of just burning it?

Didn't think so.

Ah, thats the clever part.
Before they burned the book, they copied all of it down onto little scrolls and hid them where nobody would look.
In womens uteruses.
They just didnt plan on those women giving birth, and now they have no idea where the scrolls are, which is why their priests get accused of 'child molestation'. Theyre actually looking for the scrolls. In childrens asses.

Nostrodamus was a hack.

He basically did what "cold readers" do, they give very vague references to fictional events that readers assign thier own meanings to.
Much like scripture, it can be interpereted differently by anyone silly enough to think its the truth.

Has anyone seen the Lost Book itself? Or been able to get a copy of it????It's lost.
So obviously not.

I'm not convinced that this book was even written by him, let alone is an accurate foretelling of events. How would anyone prove that he wrote it?

I'm not convinced that this book was even written by him, let alone is an accurate foretelling of events. How would anyone prove that he wrote it?

Well if its anything like the Bible, the mere fact that it says he did, is solid empirical proof.

Do they ever show any actual history programmes on the History Channel or is it all sensationalist bullshit?

Do they ever show any actual history programmes on the History Channel or is it all sensationalist bullshit?

The showings of the Nostradamus specials aren't that common; most of the programming is factual or presents a theory about something. I think the Discovery Channel actually shows more sensationalist material at times.

Ah, thats the clever part.
Before they burned the book, they copied all of it down onto little scrolls and hid them where nobody would look.
In womens uteruses.
They just didnt plan on those women giving birth, and now they have no idea where the scrolls are, which is why their priests get accused of 'child molestation'. Theyre actually looking for the scrolls. In childrens asses.
You are creative. High score!

As for the original poster: please...don't believe this rubbish. One cannot truly predict the future with any certainty unless they can somehow violate the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle, and if you can do that, you have better things to do than predicting the future.

To prove if the book is true, all you have to do is look at the pattern of betting the vatican does against world events

Eg if the pope puts $1000 at 10-1 on Obama winning in 2008 and collects, you know he's been reading it

I have other conspiracy theories ... but they even crazier*

El-presidente Boris

*but not as crazy as david ickes :eek:

It really pisses me off though where people get off about predicting the end of the world. I've never heard of a prophesy outside a fortune cookie that was "good". What's worse is the people who hype up this stuff and report on it with pomp and circumstance *cough History Channel! Cough*. It's like these guys are looking forward to the apocalypse

As for the original poster: please...don't believe this rubbish. One cannot truly predict the future with any certainty unless they can somehow violate the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle, and if you can do that, you have better things to do than predicting the future.

Yes. There are some people at Black Mesa who REALLY need your help with that. And I mean badly!

Or it could be the obvious: A discourse on the status of society back then. For example, Nostradamus lived in a time when the Turks had recently been driven out of the Southern tip of Italy in their campaign to take Rome.

Yes. There are some people at Black Mesa who REALLY need your help with that. And I mean badly!
Half-Life wasn't that good of a game, and I'd be able to rate its sequels except The Orange Box isn't letting me actually, you know, install the games from the bloody DVDs. It's insisting on Steam or something like that. :rolleyes:

The guy drew pictures for it and some of them resembled some modern leaders. One had a guy that looked just like Hitler and another showing a giant caricature of a Pope being attacked by a little Turkish guy.


How could you tell if someone was Turkish from a picture?

Half-Life wasn't that good of a game, and I'd be able to rate its sequels except The Orange Box isn't letting me actually, you know, install the games from the bloody DVDs. It's insisting on Steam or something like that. :rolleyes:


It has to connect to steam to authorise it. I buy them direct off steam these days to save the hastle.

How could you tell if someone was Turkish from a picture?

Presumably a caricature of a stereotypical Turk. Don 't ask me what that would be though.

It has to connect to steam to authorise it. I buy them direct off steam these days to save the hastle.

It's still stupid. I buy the damned discs and I still have to use some online utility just to install the games I paid for? Fuck you, Valve. :headbang:

WHO IS this "Nostradamus"? Come to me, Nostradamus, if you dare! I defy you! Come! Come and kneel before Zod!...ZOD!

Half-Life wasn't that good of a game, and I'd be able to rate its sequels except The Orange Box isn't letting me actually, you know, install the games from the bloody DVDs. It's insisting on Steam or something like that. :rolleyes:

What is this "Orange Box" you speak of? Show yourself, Orange Box! Show yourself, coward!

It's still stupid. I buy the damned discs and I still have to use some online utility just to install the games I paid for? Fuck you, Valve. :headbang:

Of course Nostradamus predicted this would happen...

How could you tell if someone was Turkish from a picture?

He has stuffing and cranberry sauce next to him. :)

What is this "Orange Box" you speak of? Show yourself, Orange Box! Show yourself, coward!
It's a compilation of Half-Life II, episodes One and Two, Portal, and Team Fortress Two. I don't care about Team Fortress II but the rest I plan on playing for their single player games.

Of course Nostradamus predicted this would happen...
Of course.

To prove if the book is true, all you have to do is look at the pattern of betting the vatican does against world events

Eg if the pope puts $1000 at 10-1 on Obama winning in 2008 and collects, you know he's been reading it

I didn't know the pope was famous for gambling. :P

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But yeah, I'm doubtful of this. There is no way accurate detailed prediction (over centuries, with exact dates) can work without making us revise the laws of physics fairly radically again.

On the other hand, large-scale prediction can have even or better than even chances of working. I find it pretty likely that there will be another big war in the Middle East within three more years, and that in the next century there will be a world war.

As our data and means of interpreting it becomes more complete, we can make more and more accurate predictions about the future. We already know with a very high probability whether it will rain in the first week of the coming December. Psychohistory the way Asimov described it is unrealistic, but who knows how far we can think ahead with enough information and computing power?

As far as prophecies go: Express general vague tautologies (and what people wish or fear, of course) in allegorical and mysterious babble, and you're set.

He has stuffing and cranberry sauce next to him. :)

I daren't ask how they could tell it was the Pope...

Supposedly the book was locked up in the basement of the Vatican all these years and reading it is punishable by excommunication.
:eek:

But I'm not even catholic.....

The guy drew pictures for it and some of them resembled some modern leaders. One had a guy that looked just like Hitler and another showing a giant caricature of a Pope being attacked by a little Turkish guy.

Another picture showed a caricature of someone who looks like Bush leading an army of armored horses into Mesopotamia.

Of course, it would be more impressive if they had shown something about things that haven't happened yet, just for future reference... neh? :p

Supposedly the book was locked up in the basement of the Vatican all these years and reading it is punishable by excommunication.
So what? They can give it to me - after all, if I were Catholic, I'd be already excommunicated.

They're showing it on History channel. Anyone else seen it yet?
I didn't see this: I foresaw this.

And, by the way, it's Nostradamus.

Prophecies... what a load of pristinely-produced, fuming bullshit.

I daren't ask how they could tell it was the Pope...

Pity. :(

Another picture showed a caricature of someone who looks like Bush leading an army of armored horses into Mesopotamia.

I wasn't aware that cavalry forces had been deployed in Iraq by America.

I wasn't aware that cavalry forces had been deployed in Iraq by America.

Tanks are known as armoured cavalry.

On the whole, I find this thing about as likely as the face of the Virgin Mary on a piece of toast. Sure, if you squint hard enough and turn your face sideways it might just resemble Bush.

I'll also bet it would resemble him more if you knew it was supposed to. Humans are simply very good at noticing patterns and similarities.

The other big advantage people who predict the future have is that no-one remembers when they're wrong. So let's make some predictions.

The Conservatives win the next UK general election, but with a slim majority.
There will be further war in the Middle East within ten years.
The world financial markets will be unstable
Civil liberties will be progressively eroded in many Western countries.

Remember now, dismiss any critics, seize on anything that seems vaguely related to what happens and preach it as complete correctness, and conveniently ignore those which don't happen.

Maybe I should take up fortune telling ;).

How could you tell if someone was Turkish from a picture?

Each country actually had its own style of clothing and its own design of uniforms at the time. Today, everyone just wears the same thing.

I daren't ask how they could tell it was the Pope...

Tattooed on the back of his neck

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Tanks are known as armoured cavalry.

Why didn't he just draw some tanks then?

That's what I've never understood about stuff like this. If Nostradamus could predict the future, why didn't he depict it accurately?

Each country actually had its own style of clothing and its own design of uniforms at the time. Today, everyone just wears the same thing.

Exactly - if he was predicting the future they would be dressed as they are in the future.

Why didn't he just draw some tanks then?

That's what I've never understood about stuff like this. If Nostradamus could predict the future, why didn't he depict it accurately?

'Oh look at those huge iron things! They're just like armoured horses!'

More like Nostradumbass, amirite?