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Wow, American football in Wembley Stadium and we send the Giants and Dolphins?? I would like to extend an apology. What a god-awful game.





***BTW, please don't let this become an "I hate your sport, mine is better" kind of thread. I love pretty much all sports.

i hate pretty much all sports. but wembly is now forever scarred by having played host to such a travesty of a sport as american "football".


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I wish we would've made it Dolphins and Rams. It would be entertaining to watch them duke it out to not be the only winless team in the modern era.

i hate pretty much all sports. but wembly is now forever scarred by having played host to such a travesty of a sport as american "football".


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Well at least the thread made it past the OP without turning into a pissing contest.

Btw football is better than football any day.

Wow, American football in Wembley Stadium and we send the Giants and Dolphins?? I would like to extend an apology. What a god-awful game.





***BTW, please don't let this become an "I hate your sport, mine is better" kind of thread. I love pretty much all sports.

accepted ..... but only if you take the 'Cheeky Girls' off our hands :D

I wish we would've made it Dolphins and Rams. It would be entertaining to watch them duke it out to not be the only winless team in the modern era.

lol... but, that would have actually been more entertaining than what we saw today.

i hate pretty much all sports. but wembly is now forever scarred by having played host to such a travesty of a sport as american "football".

Well, at least your not partial to hating one particular sport (i.e. American football). Consistancy is admirable for this topic, I guess.

i hate pretty much all sports. but wembly is now forever scarred by having played host to such a travesty of a sport as american "football".


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Indeed. American football is a horrible joke.

Click Stand;13172582']Well at least the thread made it past the OP without turning into a pissing contest.

Btw football is better than football any day.

naturally. at least football moves. football in the american sense is just a bunch of predetermined set-pieces.

Indeed. American football is a horrible joke.

Do you really want to get involved in this topic, seeing the results of your last American Football thread?

I can link you if you like.

lol... but, that would have actually been more entertaining than what we saw today.

I'm really pulling for the phins to go 0-16.

I have a few reasons.

1: Cam Cameron (IU putz) is their coach
2: They are the only team to go 17-0 (with a PURDUE quarterback). I want to also be the only team to go 0-16.

Well, at least your not partial to hating one particular sport (i.e. American football). Consistancy is admirable for this topic, I guess.


AF is the most pointless and irrelevant sport that ever was conceived. honestly, all it is is a pansy's interpretation of rugby with a bit of 'fair play' shoe horned in there. fucking pish.

At halftime, an English streaker did his thing at midfield for about 30 seconds before he was gang tackled by security and taken off the field to cheers.

Well at least this lightened things up a bit.

Do you really want to get involved in this topic, seeing the results of your last American Football thread?

I can link you if you like.

Damn! You remember that?

Nah, I'm not going to bother. I'm trying to stay out of controversies for awhile...

I think the Eagles are over there too, but what are they doing in the UK?

From the highlights I saw it was a particularly boring game.

From the highlights I saw it was a particularly boring game.

It was. NFL football can be boring.

College football, on the other hand...

It would have been better if we sent USC and Oregon out there instead.

AF is the most pointless and irrelevant sport that ever was conceived. honestly, all it is is a pansy's interpretation of rugby with a bit of 'fair play' shoe horned in there. fucking pish.

That's just your opinion. You can't prove it. ;)

Seriously, it's not a bad sport. I'll bet you dislike it because you've had countless American idiots tell you how it's "REAL" football, right? You know what? It's the same for us when it comes to soccer. Europeans never seem to miss an opportunity to tell us how lame American football is. It's like some queer moronic debate that never seems to end.

I love both sports. Can we please end this tard-fest?

Brits are watching American football?????????

I thought they preferred soccer.

2: They are the only team to go 17-0 (with a PURDUE quarterback). I want to also be the only team to go 0-16.

That would be cool. Those shmucks that pop a bottle of champagne each year when the last undefeated team loses make me want vomit.

I feel the same way about soccer. It's a ridiculously stupid game. Why do we even have leagues in America? At least over there you don't have to put up with our sport that often but we have to suffer through that travesty of a game for the one fan that lives here.

That's just your opinion. You can't prove it. ;)

Seriously, it's not a bad sport. I'll bet you dislike it because you've had countless American idiots tell you how it's "REAL" football, right? You know what? It's the same for us when it comes to soccer. Europeans never seem to miss an opportunity to tell us how lame American football is. It's like some queer moronic debate that never seems to end.

I love both sports. Can we please end this tard-fest?

that's because american "football" is lame. it's practically a joke. like some people went over and thought, wouldn't it be fucking hilarious if we invented this game and told these dipshits it was real and then made a league out of it and made a fuck load of money. i'd giggle.

that's because american "football" is lame. it's practically a joke. like some people went over and thought, wouldn't it be fucking hilarious if we invented this game and told these dipshits it was real and then made a league out of it and made a fuck load of money. i'd giggle.

Source, Please.

Source, Please.

the source of the blue nile (the true nile, nice how it rhymes, eh?) is lake tana in ethiopia and you'd do well to remember it, grasshopper.

the source of the blue nile (the true nile, nice how it rhymes, eh?) is lake tana in ethiopia and you'd do well to remember it, grasshopper.

When I left your tutelage I was but an inexperienced apprentice. Now, I am the Master. My skills have surpassed yours, old man. Bow to me. Bow to Bleh.

Source, Please.

Knowing IR, probably about 4 or 5 pints of alcohol, at least. :p

AF is the most pointless and irrelevant sport that ever was conceived. honestly, all it is is a pansy's interpretation of rugby with a bit of 'fair play' shoe horned in there. fucking pish.

Played by enormous 300 lbs of roid raging monster, as opposed to pasty-looking little men in shorts, with eons-long lulls in the action?

Who are the Giants and the Dolphins? An ugly twin from a cheap cartoon?

Who are the Giants and the Dolphins? An ugly twin from a cheap cartoon?

2 American Football teams played a game in London yesterday. Evidently, the Brits kinda liked it.

I think you Americans should apologise for sending your rubbish sport onto the hallowed grounds of Wembley. The only reason the Brits liked it is because it's essentially rugby, a game they already like, except with armour.

I think you Americans should apologise for sending your rubbish sport onto the hallowed grounds of Wembley. The only reason the Brits liked it is because it's essentially rugby, a game they already like, except with armour.

If you guys didn't want it, why did so many pay so much to go see it?

I think you Americans should apologise for sending your rubbish sport onto the hallowed grounds of Wembley. The only reason the Brits liked it is because it's essentially rugby, a game they already like, except with armour.

Just as soon as you folks apologize for Englebert Humperdink, and Beans and Toast.

Also, how "hollowed" can it really be? Abba played there.

Also, how "hollowed" can it really be? Abba played there.

You win. My god, you win everything there is, everything there has been, and everything that ever will.

If you guys didn't want it, why did so many pay so much to go see it?

Because it's an exhibition match. Idiots will watch anything if it's "exclusive" and "different".

Case in point: Sydney FC are rubbish and are getting rubbish crowds. But they've managed to sell out an exhibition game vs Beckham FC, sorry, LA Galaxy.

Also, how "hollowed" can it really be? Abba played there.

Why do you think they torn it down and built a new one?

Because it's an exhibition match. Idiots will watch anything if it's "exclusive" and "different".

Case in point: Sydney FC are rubbish and are getting rubbish crowds. But they've managed to sell out an exhibition game vs Beckham FC, sorry, LA Galaxy.

It wasn't an exhibition game. It actually counted in the league. But I see your point, and it may be correct.

The NFL sent out pollsters before and after the game. We'll see what the fans say.

Why do you think they torn it down and built a new one?

I would have scorched and salted the earth.....

You win. My god, you win everything there is, everything there has been, and everything that ever will.

Its good to be back

2 American Football teams played a game in London yesterday. Evidently, the Brits kinda liked it.

What's American Football? Soccer with fat people?

What's American Football? Soccer with fat people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Football

Or
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_am%C3%A9ricain (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_am%C3%A9ricain)

In french, in case that's more comfortable for you.

It was. NFL football can be boring.

College football, on the other hand...

It would have been better if we sent USC and Oregon out there instead.

Indeed, College Football I find far more enjoyable than the NFL.

And a cookie to you for mentioning another team from the Pac-10 (usually USC is the only one people seem to know about, even though the whole league is pretty good).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Football

It's not popular in Europe.

If you can watch Futbol Club Barcelona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Barcelona) then the rest doesn't really matter anymore.

It's not popular in Europe.

If you can watch Futbol Club Barcelona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Barcelona) then the rest doesn't really matter anymore.

Yes. The point of this was to discuss the recent game that was played in London between two American Football teams.

Besides, Barcelona sUxx0rz. Liverpool ftw.

Yes. The point of this was to discuss the recent game that was played in London between two American Football teams.

Besides, Barcelona sUxx0rz. Liverpool ftw.

Ah Liverpool, that other great Spanish team :)

I think you Americans should apologise for sending your rubbish sport onto the hallowed grounds of Wembley. The only reason the Brits liked it is because it's essentially rugby, a game they already like, except with armour.

This is a widespread but incredibly ignorant view. American Football and Rugby are much less similar than you seem to think. My sister plays rugby and regales the rest of us with knowledge about the sport whenever the subject comes up (not that the rest of us aren't interested, it's a great sport). There are similarities, yes. Both sports involve an oblong ball (the rugby one is much more round than the A. football one), both are full contact sports, both take place on field roughly the same length. Aside from these and a couple other similarities, they're very different games. Rugby is more like Association Football (soccer) in that it's mostly a game of constant motion with overarching strategies. American Football is not a game of constant motion, it's more like chess in some ways. Executing plays well is only half of the game, knowing which tactics to employ and when to do so is an equally large part.

Ah Liverpool, that other great Spanish team :)

Give me a break, it's the only one I even remotely follow. I find watching Soccer maddeningly boring. But, to each his own.

Give me a break, it's the only one I even remotely follow. I find watching Soccer maddeningly boring. But, to each his own.

I can't watch it on TV as well, but I do enjoy live games. The atmosphere, the shouting...

I can't watch it on TV as well, but I do enjoy live games. The atmosphere, the shouting...

This is true of many sports.

This is true of many sports.

If not, all.

When I can't sleep, Formula One (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One) is the best hypnotic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnotic) I can get.

But live...those pitt babes (http://come.to/F1Babes)... :cool:

As far as I'm concerned this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-PFRrJQtew) is football and I dislike both of your sports. http://boards.1up.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I especially get annoyed when Adelaide United (our soccer team) have nothing better to do than air ads where they preach about how they play "real football".

Just as soon as you folks apologize for... Beans and Toast.
Never!!!

I think you Americans should apologise for sending your rubbish sport onto the hallowed grounds of Wembley.
‘Hallowed grounds’?

Taxpayer’s sinkhole, more like. £798 million, or roughly US$ 1.57 Billion!! That’s a shocking waste of money. When will the government stop pending money on inane sports.

It’s a rectangle of green where sweaty boorish men ponce around kicking, or in this case holding, a ball. It’s not some magical temple.

Never!!!.

So heres the deal...

My local supermarket (one of em) has a "world food isle" with all the imported products, England especially. a Midwest attempt at chic.

Marmite? we got it.

"Aero" chocolate bars? Got em.

Cans of Spotted Dick?..oh ya.

So I spot the english beans, Heinz...in the green can...i get some bread, and soon Im trying beans and toast.

That was the most bland meal Ive ever had.

YOU POOR, POOR BASTARDS.

Someone long ago bred out your senses of taste, and Im so very sorry.
See, in my country, we take the best of everything from all over the world...and then deep fry it in lard.
That way, its always great!

Its the same country that invented the "Deep-fried Snickers", or the "Deep-Fried Oreo".

Then again....just a little north of you....they eat haggis.

*shrug*

Its the same country that invented the "Deep-fried Snickers", or the "Deep-Fried Oreo".

Oil and chocolate aren't meant to be within three metres of each other.

Oil and chocolate aren't meant to be within three metres of each other.

You'd think so, wouldnt you?

But theres always "Deep Fried Twinkies"!

I personally don't mind American Football. Sure, it's just a padded version of rugby where everyone takes a beather every ten seconds, but I like it.

Baseball, on the other hand, is shit squared.

So I spot the english beans, Heinz...in the green can...i get some bread, and soon Im trying beans and toast.

That was the most bland meal Ive ever had.
Of course it’s bland.

Where’s the cheese, the Worcester sauce, the bacon, etc.?

Then again....just a little north of you....they eat haggis.
*points to location*

I think you’ll find that I’m in the land of haggis-eating. And haggis is certainly not bland. It’s (or at least proper haggis should be) quite a spicy dish, with plenty of taste and texture to it.

Perfect with neeps and tatties (that’s parsnips and potatoes to you sassenachs.)

Oh yah?

At least a baseball is round.

Cricket?

Not today thanks, the weather's a bit dodgy. :p



EDIT: wooooooH Time warp!

I personally don't mind American Football. Sure, it's just a padded version of rugby where everyone takes a beather every ten seconds, but I like it.

Baseball, on the other hand, is shit squared.

Oh yah?

At least a baseball is round.

Cricket?

Cricket?
Is one of the most relaxing afternoons you’ll ever have.

But theres always "Deep Fried Twinkies"!

I'm not to thrilled about the union of deep-frying and cream as well. In general I think if it's sweet, you should keep it out of the fryer.

Never!!!


‘Hallowed grounds’?

Taxpayer’s sinkhole, more like. £798 million, or roughly US$ 1.57 Billion!! That’s a shocking waste of money. When will the government stop pending money on inane sports.

It’s a rectangle of green where sweaty boorish men ponce around kicking, or in this case holding, a ball. It’s not some magical temple.

I suppose "Bread and circuses" still holds true.

I suppose “Bread and circuses” still holds true.
Indeed.

I hold a rather hypocritical view here: I get uncomfortable about the amount of money spent on a football stadium, but I applaud the subsidisation of museums and art galleries.

I suppose I think the average punter deserves to freely see history and art, but should stump up to see a game of footy.

What a snob, eh?

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EbPsK6shaQ) pretty much sums up my knowledge of football.

Indeed.

I hold a rather hypocritical view here: I get uncomfortable about the amount of money spent on a football stadium, but I applaud the subsidisation of museums and art galleries.

I suppose I think the average punter deserves to freely see history and art, but should stump up to see a game of footy.

What a snob, eh?

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EbPsK6shaQ) pretty much sums up my knowledge of football.

I am pretty much the same - I know very little about football.

I am pretty much the same - I know very little about football.

I know a little bit, and then I've had the "it's about strategy" and "it's chess + people getting hurt" lines drilled into me. Although personally chess isn't what I'm generally looking for in a sport.

I know a little bit, and then I’ve had the “it’s about strategy” and “it’s chess + people getting hurt” lines drilled into me.
Is that American football or bog standard football?

In standard football not many people get hurt. They roll around a lot, moaning, but they don’t tend to stay ‘hurt’ for long.

Is that American football or bog standard football?

In standard football not many people get hurt. They roll around a lot, moaning, but they don’t tend to stay ‘hurt’ for long.

Whoops, I meant US Football. Considering that you guys more or less run this board I always assume that's what you mean unless someone says otherwise. :(

I know a bit about soccer, I used to watch people play it at school. I tried to play it once, but I'm not accurate enough and kept running into people.

I still like my country's football the best.

Is that American football or bog standard football?

In standard football not many people get hurt. They roll around a lot, moaning, but they don’t tend to stay ‘hurt’ for long.

You don't know anything about soccer.

Soccer players aren't wearing any body protection like a faggy helmet.

By the nature of the game (can't touch the ball by your hands), one can see really dangerous tackles on the fields.

You would be surprised about the length of the list of famous players that are injured for months.

Soccer is a contact sport.


Knee injuries were the worst
As you might expect, the majority of injuries (77%) occurred in the leg, with 21% involving the knee and 18% striking the ankle (many other studies point to the knee and ankle as the most common sites of injury during soccer). Knee injuries resulted in the most time lost from competition and produced the greatest number of cases requiring surgery. At the ankle, lateral sprains were more common than medial ones (ie, damage to the outside ankle ligaments was much more likely than harm to the inside ligaments).
There were also a considerable number of strains of the hip-adductor muscles, the hamstrings, and the quadriceps. The hip adductors, or groin muscles, were the hottest trouble spot, accounting for 53% of muscle strains, with the hams checking in at 42% and the quads adding just 5% to the total mayhem.
This new research supports other studies which have also suggested that games are particularly risky from an injury standpoint, compared with practices. In one study, researchers found that there were 16.9 injuries per 1000 hours in games, versus 7.6 injuries per 1000 hours in practices (Ekstrand, J. et al., 'Incidence of Soccer Injuries and Their Relation to Training and Team Success,' American Journal of Sports Medicine, Vol. 11, pp. 63-67, 1983). In another investigation, the rate of injury during games was pegged at 13 per 1000 hours, while practice logged only three injuries for each 1000 hours of participation

Source:
http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/soccer-injuries.html

I still like my country’s football the best.
Ozzie Rules looks a bit more fun than footy or AF.

Confusing as hell, but fun.

You don’t know anything about soccer.
I know, I just said the very same.

Soccer is a contact sport.
However, I know this is a load of bull.

Football (soccer) is a non-contact sport. If players are injuring each other, then they are fouling, or just (deliberately) playing the game wrong.

Which is one of the reasons I dislike football so much; there’s very little sportsmanship in the game. Fouling and diving are practically accepted parts of a modern professional game, while time-wasting seems to be encouraged by every major team.

naturally. at least football moves. football in the american sense is just a bunch of predetermined set-pieces.

It's not all that different from football, basketball, and other sports in that respect. They all stop the action whenever someone scores too. The only difference is that American football is more strategic and lass actiony. Think turn-based-strategy game versus real-time-strategy game. There's still plenty of actual action and a lot of hard work goes into it by the players. I think the only reason I can like it over other sports(apart from my dad practically bronzing the Denver Broncos logo on my heart) is the strategic element, the way it's based in strategy, logic, and thinking rather than just brute force "take this ball and run with it!"

Ozzie Rules looks a bit more fun than footy or AF.

Confusing as hell, but fun.


I know, I just said the very same.


However, I know this is a load of bull.

Football (soccer) is a non-contact sport. If players are injuring each other, then they are fouling, or just (deliberately) playing the game wrong.

Which is one of the reasons I dislike football so much; there’s very little sportsmanship in the game. Fouling and diving are practically accepted parts of a modern professional game, while time-wasting seems to be encouraged by every major team.

You really don't know anything about it.

When professional soccer players retire they are less or more disabled.

Some of them can't walk anymore in a normal matter.
Guys like Marco Van Basten, Luc Nillis, Lozano feel pain with every step they make.

You really don’t know anything about it.
I know, I’ve said the very same thing three times now.

I’m not trying to claim any knowledge of football, I’m merely stating the fact that football is a non-contact sport; at least in the rules.

I’m sure there’s many professional footballers I’ve never heard of that retire with horrible leg injuries, but then they’re part of a sport where bending rules to the point of breaking is accepted practice.

But who’s complaining when they get paid 1000 times the minimum wage to kick a ball into a net?

But who’s complaining when they get paid 1000 times the minimum wage to kick a ball into a net?

Oh believe me, it is not even close to that simple. I used to play football all the time as a kid. I helped my team win the state championship, and during that game my right leg was shattered. I stopped playing football after that and I'm glad I did, because if I hadn't I'd have probably injured myself for life. As it was it took a while for that leg to heal.

Oh believe me, it is not even close to that simple.
Perhaps not, but that’s essentially what the game boils down to.

The fact that players can suffer injuries during the game doesn’t change the fact that what they are playing is merely a ball game.

I know, I’ve said the very same thing three times now.

I’m not trying to claim any knowledge of football, I’m merely stating the fact that football is a non-contact sport; at least in the rules.

I’m sure there’s many professional footballers I’ve never heard of that retire with horrible leg injuries, but then they’re part of a sport where bending rules to the point of breaking is accepted practice.

But who’s complaining when they get paid 1000 times the minimum wage to kick a ball into a net?


Only the top and average players are making money.

The 'little' players in small teams are earning almost nothing. Sure in smaller competitions as the Belgian or Swiss one.

• Most soccer players leave school very early at 16 or something, so after their career they have nothing to fall back at.
• A career can't be finished pretty soon: by a chronic injury or just by problems with the trainer.
• In Belgium, the average salary is between 2500 Euros and 5000 Euros each month. Sure the real top at Anderlecht or Club Brugge is receiving between 10000 Euros and 25000 Euros. In big competitions they can earn much more.

Perhaps not, but that’s essentially what the game boils down to.

The fact that players can suffer injuries during the game doesn’t change the fact that what they are playing is merely a ball game.

True. I'm not denying that.

But you have to consider why athletes are paid so much. It's because sports teams make so much money. Humans like to see sports. It doesn't matter what type of sport, but most humans like to see some kind of sport, and they'll gladly pay money for the opportunity. That means lots and lots of money being made.

Of course it's pathetic when government officials abuse this and go on a bread and circuses run, but that's life for you.

Only the top and average players are making money.
But that’s who we’re talking about, professional footballers.

But you have to consider why athletes are paid so much. It’s because sports teams make so much money. Humans like to see sports. It doesn’t matter what type of sport, but most humans like to see some kind of sport, and they’ll gladly pay money for the opportunity. That means lots and lots of money being made.
True, lots and lots of money is being made, but sport isn’t an inherently liked thing by humanity.

Many people dislike sport.

Moreover, that’s a strangely self-evident circular argument you’ve got yourself into there: “footballers are paid lots because clubs earn lots”.

Anyways, this distracts from my, very basic, point; football is just sport. Profitable sport, very much so, but sport all the same.

Nowt special.

True, lots and lots of money is being made, but sport isn’t an inherently liked thing by humanity.

Many people dislike sport.

Indeed, hence why I said most, not all. I'm one of those that hates watching sports(except for American football, and only occasionally.)

Moreover, that’s a strangely self-evident circular argument you’ve got yourself into there: “footballers are paid lots because clubs earn lots”.

Yes, I have a horrible tendency of doing that.

Anyways, this distracts from my, very basic, point; football is just sport. Profitable sport, very much so, but sport all the same.

Nowt special.
I think we all agree with that. We're just arguing over whether that fact is relevant or not.

But that’s who we’re talking about, professional footballers.


True, lots and lots of money is being made, but sport isn’t an inherently liked thing by humanity.

Many people dislike sport.

Moreover, that’s a strangely self-evident circular argument you’ve got yourself into there: “footballers are paid lots because clubs earn lots”.

Anyways, this distracts from my, very basic, point; football is just sport. Profitable sport, very much so, but sport all the same.

Nowt special.

Well lots of soccer players in Belgium, earn just 1000 euro (without win bonus) each month.

And when they are doing nothing else as playing soccer (and training), they're professional players.

Now, you can start moaning that Belgium is just a small competition, which is true, but keep in mind that all first division teams are considered 'professional'.

Also, even in big leagues (FA Premier Leaugue, Italy, Spain, and Germany) lots of players earn nothing compared to the risks that are involved in this amazing game.

Not every soccer player is a Ronaldhino, a Rooney or a Beckham. Most professional soccer players are not.

Also, even in big leagues (FA Premier Leaugue, Italy, Spain, and Germany) lots of players earn nothing compared to the risks that are involved in this amazing game.
It’s this idea of footballers as living dangerous and honourable lives that I find amusing.

I think we all agree with that. We’re just arguing over whether that fact is relevant or not.
True enough.

It's not all that different from football, basketball, and other sports in that respect. They all stop the action whenever someone scores too. The only difference is that American football is more strategic and lass actiony. Think turn-based-strategy game versus real-time-strategy game. There's still plenty of actual action and a lot of hard work goes into it by the players. I think the only reason I can like it over other sports(apart from my dad practically bronzing the Denver Broncos logo on my heart) is the strategic element, the way it's based in strategy, logic, and thinking rather than just brute force "take this ball and run with it!"

I just wish they would enforce a no-huddle offense a bit more, let the players show some creativity and imagination rather than being pawns running from pre-set instructions. But I'm a rugby player and heavily biased so...

I don't think the match'll make much difference, until you actually get competitions to a decent standard (or at least players from other countries) playing there's not going to be much interest. That's what soccer has done so effectively and why I think (hope, and pray) rugby will grow and expand because local teams are being set up, national leagues etc.

It’s this idea of footballers as living dangerous and honourable lives that I find amusing.



I give up. I showed you a link about some regular happening injuries.

I gave you a few names of football players that were forced to stop their activities (just three, but it are hundreds of young men from the last 5 years alone)

If you want to know them all: use Google.

I explained you that even, when they 'survive' their career that in general those people are more or less disabled.

But keep on being ignorant. You act as a girl. Most girls think about football like you are thinking.

It's waiting for more silliness like: "Why do they run for the ball? 'Cause when they have it, they shoot it away"

And maybe you think about football as a silly game. But keep in mind that it is thrilling millions of people around the globe.

I live in a country with 10,000,000 million people (babies included). Every weekend, 500,000 of them are watching the football, live.

I give up. I showed you a link about some regular happening injuries.
And I refute that they make the case that a footballer’s life is somehow deadly serious, or fraught with danger. Yes, people get injured, but does this mean that football can be considered a dangerous profession? Of course not.

What are you trying to prove here?

I gave you a few names of football players that were forced to stop their activities (just three, but it are hundreds of young men from the last 5 years alone)
They were forced to stop playing football? Oh the humanity!

But keep on being ignorant. You act as a girl. Most girls think about football like you are thinking.

It’s waiting for more silliness like: “Why do they run for the ball? ‘Cause when they have it, they shoot it away”
What’s with the bizarre sexism?

You’ve already made mild homophobic remarks in this thread; one shouldn’t resort to irrational flaming to get a point across.

And maybe you think about football as a silly game. But keep in mind that it is thrilling millions of people around the globe.

I live in a country with 10,000,000 million people (babies included). Every weekend, 500,000 of them are watching the football, live.
And?

I’m not debating the popularity of football in any way, merely (re)stating the simple fact that it’s just a game. You seem to be very worked up over a simple statement of fact.

I'll just say what I always say: "If you claim any sport is a travesty to sports you are a fucking moron."

Brits are watching American football?????????

I thought they preferred soccer.


They do. The 10 people who turned up to the American Football game were on day release from the mental asylum down the road.

So heres the deal...

My local supermarket (one of em) has a "world food isle" with all the imported products, England especially. a Midwest attempt at chic.

Marmite? we got it.

"Aero" chocolate bars? Got em.

Cans of Spotted Dick?..oh ya.

So I spot the english beans, Heinz...in the green can...i get some bread, and soon Im trying beans and toast.

That was the most bland meal Ive ever had.

YOU POOR, POOR BASTARDS.

Someone long ago bred out your senses of taste, and Im so very sorry.
See, in my country, we take the best of everything from all over the world...and then deep fry it in lard.
That way, its always great!

Its the same country that invented the "Deep-fried Snickers", or the "Deep-Fried Oreo".

Then again....just a little north of you....they eat haggis.

*shrug*

I have to agree about Beans, i'm english at hate them with a passion.

As for the deep-fried chocolaty snacks, well many people i have met from Scotland, where they eat haggis, are also quite inclined to deep-fried mars bars, i've never had one, so i can't say anything about it, but sometimes you should perhaps consider the similarities rather than the differences.

I'm still waiting for rugby to sweep the world... yes it is popular but you have to subscribe to a special channel just to watch a game over here is stupid america. I just wish I could watch a bunch of people without real pads giving their all, not caring at all if they get hurt, because as it had been stated in this thread many times....it happens and those who whine about their favorite AF player getting hurt... they average career for AF player is 8-15 years. However, when you consider real football and rugby that have just recently become at least a little bit talked about in america, you realize that they have careers and injury's but don't whine about it.

america cold use some learning.

As for the deep-fried chocolaty snacks, well many people i have met from Scotland, when they eat haggis, are also quite inclined to deep-fried mars bars, i’ve never had one, so i can’t say anything about it, but sometimes you should perhaps consider the similarities rather than the differences.
Let me state, as a Scot, that deep-fried chocolate bars are very much a rarity, and are in no way indicative of Scottish cuisine.

Deep-fried pizzas, on the other hand...

I just wish I could watch a bunch of people without real pads giving their all, not caring at all if they get hurt, because as it had been stated in this thread many times
Many rugby players wear protective caps and braces, while mouthguards are, IIRC, mandatory.

Yes, rugby players don’t wear full suits of body armour, but the idea that they wear no protection is a misnomer.

So heres the deal...

My local supermarket (one of em) has a "world food isle" with all the imported products, England especially. a Midwest attempt at chic.

Marmite? we got it.

"Aero" chocolate bars? Got em.

Cans of Spotted Dick?..oh ya.

So I spot the english beans, Heinz...in the green can...i get some bread, and soon Im trying beans and toast.

That was the most bland meal Ive ever had.

YOU POOR, POOR BASTARDS.

Someone long ago bred out your senses of taste, and Im so very sorry.
See, in my country, we take the best of everything from all over the world...and then deep fry it in lard.
That way, its always great!

Its the same country that invented the "Deep-fried Snickers", or the "Deep-Fried Oreo".

Then again....just a little north of you....they eat haggis.

*shrug*



Lmao you said that when the USA is the land of McDonalds .... you sure it was the most bland meal in your life??

Many rugby players wear protective caps and braces, while mouthguards are, IIRC, mandatory.

Yes, rugby players don’t wear full suits of body armour, but the idea that they wear no protection is a misnomer.

I didn't say that they didn't wear pads... just not real ones. do you know how thin those pads are. compare them to AF. Also almost every sport wears mouth guards that is no different. I was just stating that AF half the uniform is pads whereas other sports is different and most of the time harder on the body because of the constant momentum and full body contact.

I apologize for the misconception.

I didn’t say that they didn’t wear pads... just not real ones. do you know how thin those pads are. compare them to AF. Also almost every sport wears mouth guards that is no different. I was just stating that AF half the uniform is pads whereas other sports is different and most of the time harder on the body because of the constant momentum and full body contact.

I apologize for the misconception.
Quite alright sir; my middle name is pedantic.

I didn't say that they didn't wear pads... just not real ones. do you know how thin those pads are. compare them to AF. Also almost every sport wears mouth guards that is no different. I was just stating that AF half the uniform is pads whereas other sports is different and most of the time harder on the body because of the constant momentum and full body contact.

I apologize for the misconception.

The type of tackle that is most common in AF is illegal in Rugby (not to say that it doesn't sometimes happen, but it's against the rules). They are not the same game.

Many rugby players wear protective caps and braces, while mouthguards are, IIRC, mandatory.

Yes, rugby players don’t wear full suits of body armour, but the idea that they wear no protection is a misnomer.

It's purely a matter of personal preference, nothing is mandatory and many players do indeed wear no more protection than the shirt they're wearing.

It’s purely a matter of personal preference, nothing is mandatory and many players do indeed wear no more protection than the shirt they’re wearing.
Thanks for the correction.

Remember kids, scrum safe!

I just wish they would enforce a no-huddle offense a bit more, let the players show some creativity and imagination rather than being pawns running from pre-set instructions. But I'm a rugby player and heavily biased so...

Now that I can agree with. Not because I like Rugby(because I don't, since it's even more violent than American football but lacks the necessary protection and thus is just plain stupid to play, in my opinion) but because it would definitely help to weed out some of the lesser players and keep the ones who actually play well rather than just look good as some of them tend to do.

The type of tackle that is most common in AF is illegal in Rugby (not to say that it doesn't sometimes happen, but it's against the rules). They are not the same game.

How do I keep getting mis-quoted? I never said they were the same game. I know Rugby is different. I've played both AF in high school and some of college and now I play rugby. So don't preach to me about tackles and penalties I know them.

Way side note..
Why do we call AF, football (in america? we rarely use our feet? Whereas soccer is all feet, basically. they names should be switched in america.

But keep on being ignorant. You act as a girl.

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Ignore him. He's managed to define himself as some sort of insulting windbag who doesn't understand anything outside of his own limited world view and freely insults it all. Sort of like the stereotypical American except that he's Belgian.

Ignore him. He's managed to define himself as some sort of insulting windbag who doesn't understand anything outside of his own limited world view and freely insults it all. Sort of like the stereotypical American except that he's Belgian.

So a bit like Fass, but from the other side of the political spectrum?

So a bit like Fass, but from the other side of the political spectrum?

Sort of, except without any of Fass's redeeming qualities.

Sort of, except without any of Fass's redeeming qualities.

Oh dear.

Sort of, except without any of Fass's redeeming qualities.

His sexy voice?

i hate pretty much all sports. but wembly is now forever scarred by having played host to such a travesty of a sport as american "football".


edit: horray! first reply!

I can't associate with your hating all sports; I daresay you're happy enough that way, but I've always enjoyed sport.

However, I quite agree regarding playing the NFL in Wembley. Not only has it royally cut up a pitch we play a crucial qualifier on in under a month, but frankly the entire affair was a crass, commercialised orgy of ostentation.

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I can't associate with your hating all sports; I daresay you're happy enough that way, but I've always enjoyed sport.

However, I quite agree regarding playing the NFL in Wembley. Not only has it royally cut up a pitch we play a crucial qualifier on in under a month, but frankly the entire affair was a crass, commercialised orgy of ostentation.

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Mistype....:p

If you guys didn't want it, why did so many pay so much to go see it?

The same reason we pay to go and watch Wigan play Bolton on a cold monday night. We love sport; that a depraved minority also love American football is not especially surprising, nor is that fact that you managed to fill a stadium with a capacity of 80,000.

How do I keep getting mis-quoted? I never said they were the same game. I know Rugby is different. I've played both AF in high school and some of college and now I play rugby. So don't preach to me about tackles and penalties I know them.

Way side note..
Why do we call AF, football (in america? we rarely use our feet? Whereas soccer is all feet, basically. they names should be switched in america.

Sorry.

On the side note: Soccer is derived from "Association Football"

I agree it's a bit odd, though.