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Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

I don't feel hated, although i'm not jewish by religion, only by background + family.

What anti-semitism? Anti-semitism became irrelevant about 60 years ago. Why do people elevate it now above general racism?

Libearls are guilty of many forms of bigotry - but they will attempt to rationalize it long before they address it. "Bigot" is a word they apply to other people - never themselves.

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?
What the fuck are you talking about?

I don't feel hated, although i'm not jewish by religion, only by background and family.

Exactly the same here. I don't feel hated...

I havn't noticed any anti-semitic ways.. more like religion in general.

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

I must have missed the latest round of Jew-bashing here. Have any links to the rampant hatred no one seems to know about?

Libearls are guilty of many forms of bigotry - but they will attempt to rationalize it long before they address it. "Bigot" is a word they apply to other people - never themselves.

I lol'd.

Numbers mine:



1 Anti-semitism became irrelevant about 60 years ago.

2 Why do people elevate it now above general racism?


1 Baffling, ignorant and wrong

2 They don't. But if they did, maybe it would be because of the startling ignorance of point number 1

Libearls are guilty of many forms of bigotry - but they will attempt to rationalize it long before they address it. "Bigot" is a word they apply to other people - never themselves.

Woooo, brainless generalisations

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

Oh..Oh! I get it:)

You're spouting crap? Oh, okay then. Have at it.:rolleyes:

Woooo, brainless generalisations

Hit a nerve did I? hahahaha hypocrite.

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

I have not seen that ... I see quite a few people disagreeing with the state of Israel sure but thats hardly anti-semitic in and of itself

One shouldn't confuse biological racism with legitimate criticism of Jews, such as:

- Judaism and the Talmud contain violent and racist ideas.
- Many Jews are capitalists and bankers, and thus legitimate criticism of capitalism can apply to them.
- Zionism as a political ideology is open to criticism as a dangerous nationalism.
- Israeli policy and actions are also open to criticism over Palestine and the like, and do not classify as racism no matter how hard supports of Israel try to frame all opposition to Israel as racism.

Hit a nerve did I? hahahaha hypocrite.

Oh, I'm sorry, wasn't it your side that has had the likes of Hitler, David Duke, and other well known bigots?

Hit a nerve did I? hahahaha hypocrite.

How so I have not seen anything out of this poster in which to fit the label of hypocrite ... maybe I missed something

Hey, let's not have this topic degerate into a liberal/conservative pissing match, eh?

1 Baffling, ignorant and wrong

Well, the circumstances that lead to Jew-hating don't exist anymore. Thanks to Mr Hitler you no longer find ethnically, linguistically and culturally monogamous Christian populations punctuated by detached and non-integrated Jewish communities, to whom suspicion and hostility will oh-so-inevitably fall.

Anti-semantism?Have I missed somthing here?I read a bunch of the threads and I fail to see anything other then republicans and democrats strangling each other,so could somone show me a link to this anti-semantism?

Most Jews love "anti-semetism". It allows them to pretend to be victims and get their way in everything.

There is absolutely, positively, NO Antisemitism on NSG.

- Many Jews are capitalists and bankers, and thus legitimate criticism of capitalism can apply to them.

Many blacks are stupid, but I would be castigated as a "racist" should I use such a term to describe the entire race.

Well, the circumstances that lead to Jew-hating don't exist anymore. Thanks to Mr Hitler you no longer find ethnically, linguistically and culturally monogamous Christian populations punctuated by detached and non-integrated Jewish communities, to whom suspicion and hostility will oh-so-inevitably fall.

I think you're looking at it the wrong way round. Anti-semitism does exist so therefore logically the conditions for it must exist.

Hit a nerve did I? hahahaha hypocrite.

Unless you are a group of people I don't see how I am being hypocritical

Most Jews love "anti-semetism". It allows them to pretend to be victims and get their way in everything.

Yup, because it sure as heck helped them get what they want during the inquisition, general pogroms and the holocaust. Oh yeah Anti-Semitism sure rocks hard for the Jews.

Also "pretend" to be victims?

And lastly...it's semitism, not semetism.

Many blacks are stupid, but I would be castigated as a "racist" should I use such a term to describe the entire race.

Criticism of culture, if it applies to an ethnic group, is not racism, racism is hate based on biological attributes.

I havn't noticed any anti-semitic ways.. more like religion in general.

Oh..Oh! I get it

You're spouting crap? Oh, okay then. Have at it.

Don't play dumb, it happens all the time here and you know it.

I must have missed the latest round of Jew-bashing here. Have any links to the rampant hatred no one seems to know about?

Playing innocent eh? It's happened here on countless occasions.

you might want to jot down the names of those who make what you deem to be anti-semitic posts.

count them up

youll find that they are a small minority.

lots of ugly posts does not a majority make. most people stay out of the jew bashing threads because they get too ugly and too personal.

Playing innocent eh? It's happened here on countless occasions.

When and where? I'm a Jew, I would notice. We notice those things. Hell, some people even say we imagine them!

Here's one with a few BIG posters posting things like (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541291&highlight=Jews) "Jews aren't a race" "Jews are lying elitists" How do you people get away with posting such blatantly racist remarks without being banned?

Fish around for more, antisemite threads are bountiful. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=871060&pp=15)

Criticism of culture, if it applies to an ethnic group, is not racism, racism is hate based on biological attributes.

And since only a minuscule fraction of the Jewish population is engaged in banking, then you are lambasting an entire race based on the attributes of a few. Indeed, the notion of "evil Jewish bankers" is inherently racist, despite your assertions to the contrary.

Playing innocent eh? It's happened here on countless occasions.

Yes, just like bigotry against all other religions, against atheism, against liberals, against conservatives, against capitalists, against socialists...

Here's one with a few BIG posters posting things like (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541291&highlight=Jews) "Jews aren't a race" "Jews are lying elitists" How do you people get away with posting such blatantly racist remarks without being banned?
How is "Jew's aren't a race" racist? Seriously, what the fuck?

How is "Jew's aren't a race" racist? Seriously, what the fuck?

It's implying that they're nobodys

blah

Do you actually believe I'm going to "fish around" between thousands of posts? If you want to show me a certain post, then do so.

And claiming Jews aren't a race is not anti-semitic, it's an opinion. One that can be easily disproved, but an opinion.

The Anti-Semitism is caused by teh ebil Jews.
Curses.

It's implying that they're nobodys

What?

Here's one with a few BIG posters posting things like (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541291&highlight=Jews) "Jews aren't a race" "Jews are lying elitists" How do you people get away with posting such blatantly racist remarks without being banned?

Fish around for more, antisemite threads are bountiful. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=871060&pp=15)

Lol. You haven't had much experience with Il Ruffino, have you?

Your search for 'Jews' brings up your thread, an Israel thread, which is not necessarily Jew-bashing at all, the thread in your first link... and that's pretty much it.

It's implying that they're nobodys

How? maybe the poster was arguing what constitutes a race verses an ethnic group (in fact looking at the thread that seems to be EXACTLY what he is doing)

Hardly implying what you say they are implying

I just don't see it. I see a lot more of Muslim-bashing than Jew-bashing on NSG. But maybe it's because as a jew myself I'm just so used to Jew-bashing that fnord I tune it out completely? No, I think it's because Muslims are much more despised in public discourse; Islam is routinely "discussed" as being barbaric and evil (etc) while Muslims are routinely assumed to be terrorists or terrorist supporters out to conquer the world in the name of Allah.

People get tired on this forum of me comparing Muslim-bashing neoconservative views with Jew-bashing national socialist views. I guess I can see more than one reason why that irks some people.

But if I keep doing it, I do it because while much of the west seems to have a problem with Jew-bashing nowadays (which is good), loud portions of it have no problem with Muslim-bashing (which is bad). And if I can draw a connect - not really hard to do, hating/fearing/stereotyping a religious/ethnic minority is what it is - maybe someone will pause a moment before spewing their lovely suggestion that Muslims represent the insidious, blood-sucking foreigners attacking the fatherland from within (again).

Maybe.

Probably not, but then one can say that to influencing anyone in a medium like this with strong opinions on a topic like this. Alas.

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

Majority??? You're on crack.

Most Jews love "anti-semetism". It allows them to pretend to be victims and get their way in everything.

Now that's an anti-semite! You can allows count on TX to come up with the most retarded intolerant comment to reinforce our already low opinion.

Majority??? You're on crack.



Now that's an anti-semite! You can allows count on TX to come up with the most retarded intolerant comment to reinforce our already low opinion.

Yep, there are a few that spring to mind. UB, possibly ocean drive but i'm not sure.

And since only a minuscule fraction of the Jewish population is engaged in banking, then you are lambasting an entire race based on the attributes of a few. Indeed, the notion of "evil Jewish bankers" is inherently racist, despite your assertions to the contrary.
The amount of Jews and the economic and political power they control in the media, banking and in lobbying is totally disproportionate to their numbers, Israel has a tiny population of about 7 million yet AIPAC and other groups in the US control massive sway with policy-making and with the Christian Right, and in return Israel receives billions into it's war coffers.

I just don't see it. I see a lot more of Muslim-bashing than Jew-bashing on NSG. But maybe it's because as a jew myself I'm just so used to Jew-bashing that fnord I tune it out completely? No, I think it's because Muslims are much more despised in public discourse; Islam is routinely "discussed" as being barbaric and evil (etc) while Muslims are routinely assumed to be terrorists or terrorist supporters out to conquer the world in the name of Allah.


I don't think that happens a lot at all.

I'm personally more concerned by the sudden rise of anti-anti semitism, embodied in this very thread. I feel we must take a stand against the persecution and mocking of poor, innocent anti-semites. Shame on you all. You make baby Hitler cry.

The amount of Jews and the economic and political power they control in the media, banking and in lobbying is totally disproportionate to their numbers, Israel has a tiny population of about 7 million yet AIPAC and other groups in the US control massive sway with policy-making and with the Christian Right, and in return Israel receives billions into it's war coffers.

Speaking from what I have closest experience with, to speak with certainty, writers and comedians are disproportionately jewish (and really disproportionately jewish). What are we to make of this? Is it a Jewish conspiracy - of the kind you imply - to make out like Groucho Marx and Woody Allen were geniuses? Is it a conspiracy whereby the Jewsih minority force the public to find Seinfeld and Larry David and Jon Stewart hilarious?

Onto an area where I am less certain - I am pretty sure that Jewish people are disproportionately represented amongst the winners of Nobel prizes? Is this another conspiracy?

I'm confident that in neither case are conspiracies at work and I wonder why people would then go on to assume that because Jewish people are also highly represented in banking and "media" because of a conspiracy?

Well said, Sirmomo1.:)

No Anti-Semites, just a load of Anti-Religious

UB, Ocean Drive and Andaras Prime are the only anti-semites I can think of on NSG.

Yep, there are a few that spring to mind. UB, possibly ocean drive but i'm not sure.I am not an Anti-semite (BTW I consider Arabs to be semite too)
and I dont hate Jews .. and -for what I have seen so far- neither do the other posters you mention.

I am a vocal critic of some of the ugly things the state of Israel did/does. (for example Assassinations, Sabra, Shatila , Gaza, etc).
Sometimes I am also a critic of US Politicians,Media and Lobbies for their blind support of these acts.

But I dont "Hate Jews", whenever you do accuse me of "Hating Jews".. I would expect you to bring some quotes.

I think, IDF does carry a big collection of posts -he think may be relevant- I ever posted(in the last 3 years).
...recently he created a poll about it, but methinks he was disappointed by the results.

BTW there is several Jews I do admire. They deserve it.

the jooz are evil, dontcha know.

UB, Ocean Drive and Andaras Prime are the only anti-semites I can think of on NSG.

" By its nature, Zionism concentrates ultra-nationalism, chauvinism and racial intolerance, excuse for territorial occupation and annexation, military opportunism, cult of political promiscuousness and irresponsibility, demagogy and ideological diversion, dirty tactics and perfidy... Absurd are attempts of Zionist ideologists to present criticizing them, or condemning the aggressive politics of the Israel's ruling circles, as antisemitic. "

I havn't noticed any anti-semitic ways.. more like religion in general.Criticism of religion? maybe.

Criticism of Abrahanic religions (Christians, Muslims, Jews)? maybe.

But who can blame them?
Some of the ugly things men do in the name of Religion -or "to protect" their religious group- needs to be denounced.

Muslims hate jews. At the moment Muslims are perceived as having the most butthurt. Therefore helping muslims by hating jews is the right thing to do.

It makes no sense, but that's 'right on' politics for you.

" By its nature, Zionism concentrates ultra-nationalism, chauvinism and racial intolerance, excuse for territorial occupation and annexation, military opportunism, cult of political promiscuousness and irresponsibility, demagogy and ideological diversion, dirty tactics and perfidy... Absurd are attempts of Zionist ideologists to present criticizing them, or condemning the aggressive politics of the Israel's ruling circles, as antisemitic. "

I think this must be AP's new account. Your crap about the J00z controlling capitalism and the media should've tipped me off. I must be getting slow.

Edit you are AP

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13154682&postcount=28

I see you cut out the 2nd half of that quote which shows it was a piece of Soviet propoganda. I think no one will debate the fact that the USSR was very anti-semitic. Their treatment of the Jews within their own country confirms it. I was lucky that my cousins in the USSR survived long enough to flee to the west where they met the rest of my family in Chicago. You should hear the stories of the persecution Jews had to suffer.

The amount of Jews and the economic and political power they control in the media, banking and in lobbying is totally disproportionate to their numbers, Israel has a tiny population of about 7 million yet AIPAC and other groups in the US control massive sway with policy-making and with the Christian Right, and in return Israel receives billions into it's war coffers.You sound just like an anti-semite. Are you AP by any chance?

Has it occurred to you that our economic and political power might have come from a culture that encourages study above all else?

I just don't see it. I see a lot more of Muslim-bashing than Jew-bashing on NSG. But maybe it's because as a jew myself I'm just so used to Jew-bashing that fnord I tune it out completely? No, I think it's because Muslims are much more despised in public discourse; Islam is routinely "discussed" as being barbaric and evil (etc) while Muslims are routinely assumed to be terrorists or terrorist supporters out to conquer the world in the name of Allah.

People get tired on this forum of me comparing Muslim-bashing neoconservative views with Jew-bashing national socialist views. I guess I can see more than one reason why that irks some people.

But if I keep doing it, I do it because while much of the west seems to have a problem with Jew-bashing nowadays (which is good), loud portions of it have no problem with Muslim-bashing (which is bad). And if I can draw a connect - not really hard to do, hating/fearing/stereotyping a religious/ethnic minority is what it is - maybe someone will pause a moment before spewing their lovely suggestion that Muslims represent the insidious, blood-sucking foreigners attacking the fatherland from within (again).

Maybe.

Probably not, but then one can say that to influencing anyone in a medium like this with strong opinions on a topic like this. Alas.

Of course it never occurs to you that islam may, in fact, be the most barbaric ideology around in the world today.

But don't let facts get in the way of your little crusade.

In our society, any criticism of a Jew results you being blacklisted as an "anti-semite". Its idiotic. Jews are 2% of the population, yet they control Hollywood, much of the media, the diamond industry, a lot of wall street, etc. Its not a "Jewish conspiracy", its an obvious fact:

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Jews-In-The-Media-Hollywood.htm


Jewish power is totally disproportionate to their population.

Furthermore, Jewish racism gets a pat on the head. The Talmud calls gentiles "animals" and says they should be exterminated. The ADL has denied the Armenian genocide and they have claimed only Jews died in the holocaust. Those are two very racist things to say. And yet the Jewish-supremacist ADL has the nerve to throw a fit when some obscure priest calls Jews "greedy". Its hypocrisy at its finest. Yet no one does anything, because you wouldn't dare to offend the "choson people".

Face it, Jews get rich off of "anti-semetism". I'm not denying its out there, but there is not nearly as much as most Jews claim. The Jews write books, make movies, get donations, give speeches, etc. about "anti-semetism" and rake in millions. Its a joke. Every single group of people has been persecuted at some point, and every single group of people has persecuted someone else. The Jews are no different.

In our society you can make a racist comment against whites, asians, arabs, hispanics, and sometimes even blacks and get away scot free. But if you insult the Jews, you get blacklisted and isolated. I for one am sick of it.

I don't consider myself an "anti-semite". You'll probably label me that anyway, but I could care less.

You sound just like an anti-semite. Are you AP by any chance?

Has it occurred to you that our economic and political power might have come from a culture that encourages study above all else?

Then why don't Asians have as much power? There are more Asians than Jews and they study just as hard, if not harder.

BTW there is several Jews I do admire. They deserve it.

Oh, now you got me interested. Who?
Not that I doubt you do, I'm seriously asking.

Oh, now you got me interested. Who?
Not that I doubt you do, I'm seriously asking.

I like Rabbi Yehuda Levin. He is a real Jew, an Orthodox Jew. Not one of these money-grubbing liberal "reform Jews" that are everywhere in America.

" By its nature, Zionism concentrates ultra-nationalism, chauvinism and racial intolerance, excuse for territorial occupation and annexation, military opportunism, cult of political promiscuousness and irresponsibility, demagogy and ideological diversion, dirty tactics and perfidy... Absurd are attempts of Zionist ideologists to present criticizing them, or condemning the aggressive politics of the Israel's ruling circles, as antisemitic. "

Judaism =/= Zionism

You sound just like an anti-semite. ha!!

tuh tuh!! Confetti!! pinhata!!

UB, Ocean Drive and Andaras Prime are the only anti-semites I can think of on NSG.

UB and Andaras Prime, yes. Ocean Drive, probably not.

Oh, now you got me interested. Who?
Not that I doubt you do, I'm seriously asking.here?

I am impressed by this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13172593&postcount=446) poster. .. so far.

He is a new guy, he is smart and he speaks like a seasoned NSG veteran.
There is some veterans I like too, but I am not going to mention their names because I dont wanna get too fluffly.. ;)

In our society, any criticism of a Jew results you being blacklisted as an "anti-semite". Its idiotic. Jews are 2% of the population, yet they control Hollywood, much of the media, the diamond industry, a lot of wall street, etc. Its not a "Jewish conspiracy", its an obvious fact:

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Jews-In-The-Media-Hollywood.htm


Jewish power is totally disproportionate to their population.



Firstly, I work in Hollywood and Jewish people are highly represented completely on merit. So many incredibly talented writers, directors, producers, agents etc etc are jewish. As far as I know they don't all get together (maybe they have a big building somewhere?) to meet and discuss what to do with "their" power.

Secondly, from a link I got from your link:
"At least 170 Jews and persons of half-Jewish ancestry have been awarded the Nobel Prize,1 accounting for 22% of all individual recipients worldwide between 1901 and 2005, and constituting 37% of all US recipients2 during the same period. In the scientific research fields of Chemistry, Economics, Medicine, and Physics, the corresponding world and US percentages are 26% and 39%, respectively. (Jews currently make up approximately 0.25% of the world's population and 2% of the US population.)"

Oh no, the Jews are controlling science! No oxegyn for the damn gentiles they hate so much!

Guys Eureka Australis is AP.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13154682&postcount=28

He made a nearly identical post in this very thread.

What are the odds that 2 Aussies (one who appeared to post just as soon as AP was DEATed) would post the exact same quote?

here?

I am impressed by this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13172593&postcount=446) poster. .. so far.

He is a new guy, he is smart and he speaks like a seasoned NSG veteran.
There is some veterans I like too, but I am not going to mention their names because I dont wanna get too fluffly.. ;)

I like the arrogance of linking to yourself, safe in the knowledge that if anyone calls you on it you can say you meant the guy you were quoting.

I see right through you.

Guys Eureka Australis is AP.

I suspected as much.

I dont wanna get too fluffly.. ;)

Lol, and I thought you were going to write "Einstein" and things like that...

UB and Andaras Prime, yes. Ocean Drive, probably not.

OD is

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13166957&postcount=53

Here I have a collection of quotes from him

I document all of my evidence.:)

...Not one of these money-grubbing liberal "reform Jews" that are everywhere in America.


Your racist troll colors are showing.

I suspected as much.

If I were in his shoes, I would try for a fresh start. Apparently he doesn't realize how poor his rep is on the board. Either that or he doesn't care.

Most Jews love "anti-semetism". It allows them to pretend to be victims and get their way in everything.

There is absolutely, positively, NO Antisemitism on NSG.

Which of these does not belong?

I think people here sometimes pretend to be anti-semitic ironically. But, as is so often the case with irony, the joke just doesn't work, and they end up simply looking anti-semitic. But I think real anti-semites are a minority.

Of course it never occurs to you that islam may, in fact, be the most barbaric ideology around in the world today.

But don't let facts get in the way of your little crusade.

Islam brought Civilization back to Europe fool :upyours:

Which of these does not belong?

I think people here sometimes pretend to be anti-semitic ironically. But, as is so often the case with irony, the joke just doesn't work, and they end up simply looking anti-semitic. But I think real anti-semites are a minority.
I agree they are a minority, but we all must acknowledge they exist here.

OD, AP(EA now I guess), and UB are the primary offenders and each have a well documented history.

This topic is sort of an anathema to me.

Criticize the actions of Israel and you are an anti-Semite. But that is the thing of Religion. Point out questionable things and you hate Christians, bash Muslims or as with this topic; you are an anti-Semite.

Israel has done some pretty crappy stuff. They have earned the right to be judged. What nation, people or religion has not?

I have had the privilege to having been in Israel. I was in Herzliya, Tel-Aviv and Jerusalem. I talked to many people on the street, cafes, restaurants and the hotels.

As a people they are just like everybody else.

I agree they are a minority, but we all must acknowledge they exist here.

OD, AP(EA now I guess), and UB are the primary offenders and each have a well documented history.
Totally agreed.

Furthermore, Jewish racism gets a pat on the head. The Talmud calls gentiles "animals" and says they should be exterminated.

don't get your knowledge of the Talmud from Stormfront

As a people they are just like everybody else.

Liar.

If I were in his shoes, I would try for a fresh start. Apparently he doesn't realize how poor his rep is on the board. Either that or he doesn't care.

I'm betting on the latter. Btw, do you have MSN? If so, send me a TG.

OD is

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13166957&postcount=53

Here I have a collection of quotes from him

Ugh.

I document all of my evidence.:)

Indeed you do. ;)

Lol, and I thought you were going to write "Einstein" and things like that...ohh... your question was not "who do you like here (at NSG)"?

The 3 I admire the most are Jon Stewart , George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg.

Jon gets a big chunk of my total admiration.. and religions included.

I'm betting on the latter. Btw, do you have MSN? If so, send me a TG.
I only have AIM.

He asked me a question, I answered.
.
That makes no sense whatsoever.
.
Then that means you can own me, everysingle time I try to debate.

Amazing power indeed. ;)

Hi, it was a joke. I would have covered it in smilies but I thought that would be a little patronising..

don't get your knowledge of the Talmud from Stormfront

Agreed, Jews don't beleive that gentiles are animals...what the fuck????

Liar.

Because?

Because?

Because they bake bread without yeast. A people that make bread without yeast must be evil.

ohh... your question was not "who do you like here (at NSG)"?

The 3 I admire the most are Jon Stewart , George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg.

Jon gets a big chunk of my total admiration.. and religions included.

"Mel Brooks is Jewish?"

Okay, I knew that. But I didn't know any of the three you mentioned were Jewish. Are they practicing?

Oh, and Brownie points for whoever can identify where the quote comes from.

Some of the BS from the Protocols is still circulating on the Internet and idiots believe it.
Figures...leave it to The Russians.:p

Agreed, Jews don't beleive that gentiles are animals...what the fuck????

Some of the BS from the Protocols is still circulating on the Internet and idiots believe it.

Lol! NS is fooling us. It seems as if The Atlantian islands quoted something posted in the future!

"Mel Brooks is Jewish?"

Okay, I knew that. But I didn't know any of the three you mentioned were Jewish. Are they practicing?

Oh, and Brownie points for whoever can identify where the quote comes from.

Doh!

He is also a Battle of the Bulge veteran.....

Lol! NS is fooling us. It seems as if The Atlantian islands quoted something posted in the future!

This forum does strange things. Have you ever read The Haunting of Hill House? That's pretty much this forum, in house form.

Some of the BS from the Protocols is still circulating on the Internet and idiots believe it.

Sad, but true. Wonder if AP does? :p

Lol! NS is fooling us. It seems as if The Atlantian islands quoted something posted in the future!

get used to the infamous timewarp issue.

It's accomplished via slingshotting yourself around the sun at warpfactor 9.9.

Your racist troll colors are showing.

My girlfriend is Asian. I'm white. So I'm not a racist you liberal retard.

My girlfriend is Asian. I'm white. So I'm not a racist you liberal retard.

You can be racist against a specific race ... your girlfriend could possibly be evidence against an Asian focused racism while leaving the rest of the field open.

My girlfriend is Asian. I'm white. So I'm not a racist you liberal retard.

Whether you're racist or not, flaming is against the rules here.

My girlfriend is Asian. I'm white. So I'm not a racist you liberal retard.

I suspect you aren't a racist, just a troll pretending to be one for fun. Most of your remarks seem intentionally obtuse and ridiculous. You seem to be over-playing your role just a bit.

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." Coschen hamischpat 405

"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"." Jore dea 377, 1


"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." Sepher ikkarim III c 25

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

This topic is sort of an anathema to me.

Criticize the actions of Israel and you are an anti-Semite. But that is the thing of Religion. Point out questionable things and you hate Christians, bash Muslims or as with this topic; you are an anti-Semite.

Israel has done some pretty crappy stuff. They have earned the right to be judged. What nation, people or religion has not?

I have had the privilege to having been in Israel. I was in Herzliya, Tel-Aviv and Jerusalem. I talked to many people on the street, cafes, restaurants and the hotels.

As a people they are just like everybody else.

*sigh* I never understood where people get this from. Very few people, in my experience, call those critical of Israeli policies anti-semitic. Hell, a large portion of the younger Jewish generation in America is often extremely critical of Israeli policy. But, seriously, this notion that everyone who is critical of Israeli actions is labeled as anti-semitic is some intellectually dishonest, crazy paranoid bullshit hyperbole.

*sigh* I never understood where people get this from. Very few people, in my experience, call those critical of Israeli policies anti-semitic. Hell, a large portion of the younger Jewish generation in America is often extremely critical of Israeli policy. But, seriously, this notion that everyone who is critical of Israeli actions is labeled as anti-semitic is some intellectually dishonest, crazy paranoid bullshit hyperbole.

I think he was often referencing discussion on this board. Thats where he gets this from ... in real life this may not be the case but it is sadly prevalent in ANY discussion on Israel, and as this topic is focused on what goes on on this board real life for the most part is irrelevant and absolutely not intellectually dishonest.

Woooo, brainless generalisations

Wrong. That IS how liberals act. They consider their kind and bigots to be mutually exclusive, even though they are NOT.

My girlfriend is Asian. I'm white. So I'm not a racist you liberal retard.

Your girlfriend being a different race/ethnicity from yourself has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with whether or not you are a racist.

Wrong. That IS how liberals act. They consider their kind and bigots to be mutually exclusive, even though they are NOT.

Wait... wait you contradict a statement about generalizations by generalizing ... NICE lol

Because they bake bread without yeast. A people that make bread without yeast must be evil.

Why do you say that the Jews are evil?

Why do you say that the Jews are evil?

I believe the posters SARCASTIC reason was IN the quote you posted itself...

Wait... wait you contradict a statement about generalizations by generalizing ... NICE lol

Who said anything about generalizing? I wasn't talking about generalizing; I was saying that he is incorrect to say that liberals and bigots are mutually exclusive (meaning that if you're a member of one group, you're automatically NOT a member of the other group).

And I wasn't generalizing; I simply said that just because you're a liberal doesn't mean you're not a bigot, i.e. there are such things as "liberal bigots". I didn't say that all liberals were automatically bigots.

(*happens across my first post on this thread*)

OK, I see what you mean now; the statement "That IS how liberals act" was the generalization you were referring to.

(*slaps self on the forehead with open-palmed right hand*) lol

I think he was often referencing discussion on this board. Thats where he gets this from ... in real life this may not be the case but it is sadly prevalent in ANY discussion on Israel, and as this topic is focused on what goes on on this board real life for the most part is irrelevant and absolutely not intellectually dishonest.

Ah...if that's so, then you have my apologies. However, it is a line that I hear a lot in that world outside of my magic, internet-providing glow-box. ;)

I believe the posters SARCASTIC reason was IN the quote you posted itself...

Whew. (*breathes sigh of relief*)

And here I was thinking TSI might be anti-Semitic.

Then why don't Asians have as much power? There are more Asians than Jews and they study just as hard, if not harder.

Well gee, it's not like we run any world economic powers or anything like that...

I think he was often referencing discussion on this board. Thats where he gets this from ... in real life this may not be the case but it is sadly prevalent in ANY discussion on Israel, and as this topic is focused on what goes on on this board real life for the most part is irrelevant and absolutely not intellectually dishonest.

:) Thanks for the clarification.

Your girlfriend being a different race/ethnicity from yourself has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with whether or not you are a racist.

I hear one needs at least 10 asian girlfriends to not be considered a racist.
Then one would also qualify for Mormonship.

Hi, it was a joke. I would have covered it in smilies but I thought that would be a little patronising..ahh my mistake,

I retract/delete my reply.

Islam brought Civilization back to Europe fool :upyours:

Oh fuck. I forgot that 800 years ago is completely identical to today.

I guess I stand corrected in a sort of only a moron could agree with it sort of way.

Oh fuck. I forgot that 800 years ago is completely identical to today.

I guess I stand corrected in a sort of only a moron could agree with it sort of way.

People who follow Islam are diverse and saying Islam in general is barbaric is only counter productive in fighting terrorism and missed up bullshit

-Talmud lines-

You do know most Jews have no clue about any verse of these books, right? How exactly several centuries old books make a case? Every religion has its horrifying scriptures. The old testament is full of verses calling for genocide and racism, and Christianity considers those holy as well.

Ah...if that's so, then you have my apologies. However, it is a line that I hear a lot in that world outside of my magic, internet-providing glow-box. ;)

Could be ... but to be honest I do not usually argue politics in real life so I dont ...

People who follow Islam are diverse and saying Islam in general is barbaric is only counter productive in fighting terrorism and missed up bullshit

Did I say that I had any interest in fighting terrorism? No, I did not. I just pointed out that Islam is the worst and most backward of all the crappy ideologies floating around out there at present.

I'm sure you have some butturt reason why it's really really cool. But I don't care.

The 3 I admire the most are Jon Stewart , George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg.You forgot stanley kubrick.

And george lucas isn't jewish... is he?

You do know most Jews have no clue about any verse of these books, right? How exactly several centuries old books make a case? Every religion has its horrifying scriptures. The old testament is full of verses calling for genocide and racism, and Christianity considers those holy as well.

Oh no, my big problem is with the 2 big Abrahamic religions, Judaism and Islam, I personally think the Gospel is the most positive and beautiful writing ever, it's compassionate, egalitarian, socialist and anti-establishment message entirely rejects organized dogmatic religion, you should know that Jesus was far more of a social-worker than a prophet, this is the guy who said 'the poor shall inherit the earth' and advocated common ownership, true Christianity would be great. Unfortunately socialist Christianity is ignored in favor of the genocidal, homophobic, brutalism of the OT, Christianity these days is not socialist (as it truly is) but a vehicle for right-wing moralistic authoritarian freaks.

You don't think the bible is authoritarian? The bible is all about being sent to hell for disobedience.

Oh, I'm sorry, wasn't it your side that has had the likes of Hitler, David Duke, and other well known bigots?

Hitler was far-left. Nazi stands for National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party. He controlled a totalitarian government just like russia, cuba and N korea all leftists.

Just because it has the word socialist in it, it doesn't mean it's socialist. Hitler was the opposite, and he hated communism.

Just because it has the word socialist in it, it doesn't mean it's socialist. Hitler was the opposite, and he hated communism.

China disliked the soviet union and THEY were both communist.

You don't think the bible is authoritarian? The bible is all about being sent to hell for disobedience.
The OT is authoritarian.

China disliked the soviet union and THEY were both communist.

And China was right to do so, the USSR had been taken over by the pro-capitalist revisionist Trotskyist Khrushchevite forces while China was in favor of Marxism-Leninism.

China disliked the soviet union and THEY were both communist.From wikipedia
Hitler founded The Nazi state upon a racially defined "German people" and principally rejected the idea of its being bound by the limits of nationalism;[17] that was only a means for attempting unlimited supremacy. In that sense, its nationalism and hyper-nationalism was tolerated to reach a world-dominating Germanic-Aryan Volksgemeinschaft. This idea is a central concept of Mein Kampf, symbolized by the motto Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer (one people, one empire, one leader). The Nazi relationship between the Volk and the state was called the Volksgemeinschaft ("people's community"), a late nineteenth or early twentieth century neologism that defined a communal duty of citizens in service to the Reich (opposed to a simple "society"). The term "National Socialism" derives from this citizen-nation relationship, whereby the term socialism is invoked and is meant to be realized through the common duty of the individuals to the German people; all actions are to be in service of the Reich. In practice, the Nazis argued, their goal was to bring forth a nation-state as the locus and embodiment of the people's collective will, bound by the Volksgemeinschaft as both an ideal and an operating instrument. In comparison, non-national socialist ideologies oppose the idea of nations.

And China was right to do so, the USSR had been taken over by the pro-capitalist revisionist Trotskyist Khrushchevite forces while China was in favor of Marxism-Leninism.

Chinas economy is capitalist and cuba and N korea are just corrupt dictatorships. So I guess you could say there is no such thing as communism and there never will be.

Edit: Wiki isnt credible as anyone can alter it. Bring me something more credible.

Hitler was far-left.is that sarcasm?

Chinas economy is capitalist and cuba and N korea are just corrupt dictatorships. So I guess you could say there is no such thing as communism and there never will be.

Edit: Wiki isnt credible as anyone can alter it. Bring me something more credible.Actually, now that I read more of the article it seems like goebbels did like to pretend he was socialist.

Party spokesman Joseph Goebbels insisted in 1932 that the NSDAP was a "workers' party" and "on the side of labor and against finance".[34] Hitler said of the Nazis: "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance";[35] however, he was clear to point out that Nazism "has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism," saying that "Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not."[36] He further said that "I absolutely insist on protecting private property... we must encourage private initiative".[37] Nevertheless, he wanted property to be regulated to make sure "benefit to the community precedes benefit to the individual".[38] Attacks were made on what Hitler called "pluto-democracy," which was claimed to be a conspiracy by Jews to favor democratic parties in order to keep capitalism intact.[39]

is that sarcasm?

Are you dim?

Are you dim?

I think he was momentarily dazed by such a ridiculous statement.

I think he was momentarily dazed by such a ridiculous statement.

Hmm he was anti-semetic, check! He was a socialist, check! He was a totalitarian dictator, checkarama!

Edit: He used propoganda and crushed desent! Another check!

Hmm he was anti-semeticanti-semantic :D

Chinas economy is capitalist and cuba and N korea are just corrupt dictatorships. So I guess you could say there is no such thing as communism and there never will be.

Edit: Wiki isnt credible as anyone can alter it. Bring me something more credible.

Well the DPRK stopped being socialist when it discarded Marxism-Leninism in favor of Junche. Under Junche class played no part at all in society, material dialectics were also discarded because Junche was anti-materialist, self-managed autonomous communes and cooperatives were replaced by commandist bureaucratic statist economy run by army officers, and democratic centralism within the Leninist party was ignored in favor of an unassailable arbitrary individual ruling for personal profit, Junche was just the Korean version of the revisionization that took place in the Soviet Union and later Vietnam. Brezhnev, Zemin, Ziyang, Kim all represented the new fascist class disguised as socialists.

As to Cuba, you really don't know what you're talking about, I suggest you read these articles:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=5609
http://www.quaylargo.com/Productions/McCelvey.html

Hmm he was anti-semetic, check! He was a socialist, check! He was a totalitarian dictator, checkarama!

Edit: He used propoganda and crushed desent! Another check!

Evidently you don't have the ability to see deeper than a misapplied label. The only specifically "leftist" attribute you describe is simply the word "socialist. In Hitler's case, it was a misnomer.

Are you dim?I have a dim recollection of a n00b car accident. Are you over it? Have your tears dried?

anti-semantic :D

:D

Evidently you don't have the ability to see deeper than a misapplied label. The only specifically "leftist" attribute you describe is simply the word "socialist. In Hitler's case, it was a misnomer.

How so? He showed all the atributes I see in "leftist" dictators. I admit that Mussolini was far right, but Hitler? No way.

Are you dim?

Dude, your an idiot, check the political compass, Hitler was authoritarian socially but centrist economically, economically he was Keynesian. Please keep your uninformed gibberish to yourself.

I have a dim recollection of a n00b car accident. Are you over it? Have your tears dried?

I am glad you have a dim memory. I was worried about you for a second there..

How so? He showed all the atributes I see in "leftist" dictators. I admit that Mussolini was far right, but Hitler? No way.

You need to read this. If for no other reason, so you won't embarrass yourself in the future:

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm

It explains exactly how you're wrong.

Dude, your an idiot, check the political compass, Hitler was authoritarian socially but centrist economically, economically he was Keynesian. Please keep your uninformed gibberish to yourself.

Three words are giberish? Wow the gramar nazis are on patrol today. I never said he was a commie I SAID he was far-left. They arn't interchangable you know.

I was worried about you for a second there..there is lots of people who worry about me in da Forums.. welcome to the club. ;)

You need to read this. If for no other reason, so you won't embarrass yourself in the future:

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm

It explains exactly how you're wrong.

Yes hitler had some non leftist ideas but aside from gun control and nationalism none of them are right wing. In the communist party things were controled by the party members. In socialism and communism some are always more equal than others. Power politics and millitarism are certainly not constrained to the right. Religion? He was an athiest/occultist. Exclusivness, inclusivness? All totalitarian governments are the same in that.


Edit: About the nationalism thing. Yea the USSR and now apparently the EU want to conform all nations to be like THEM, how is that any better?

Hitler was far-left

True. By their own admission, the Nazis were left-wing. Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn has irrefutably destroyed the myth that the Nazis were "right-wing." Guenter Reimann (a German communist) reveals in his book The Vampire Economy, in explicit detail, that economically the National Socialists were extremely left-wing.

I admit that Mussolini was far right

Incorrect.

Incorrect.

How so?

Edit: With no explanation you are not credible or believeable, so barf up some proof or shut up.

EDIT EDIT: Since no one is replying ill go to bed now. I look foward to reading our reply's when I wake up.

How so?

I would highly recommend reading Leftism Revisited: From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Pol Pot by Dr. Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn. He reveals that, contrary to popular belief, fascism and National Socialism were both leftist ideologies, and he provides mountains of footnotes to back it up.

How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

because of you

Incorrect.

Indeed, Mussolini started out as a socialist and his ideas revolved around national syndicalism, guild socialism etc, he himself lamented the fact that the Italy became too dominated by big business and the monarchy, and the RSI was supposed to be a massive leftward shift and to go back to his collectivist ideas of nationhood. But yeah I won't defend him either way, too much of a statist and authoritarian.

Hit a nerve did I? hahahaha hypocrite.

LOL.

How so?

Edit: With no explanation you are not credible or believeable, so barf up some proof or shut up.

EDIT EDIT: Since no one is replying ill go to bed now. I look foward to reading our reply's when I wake up.

My reply needs moderator approval before it can appear (since I made the reply when I had less than 10 posts). It will hopefully appear sooner or later, if not, TG me.

There's a big difference between being critical of the policies of the government of Israel and certain aspects of Judaism and having an irrational hatred of Jewish people.

There's a big difference between being critical of the policies of the government of Israel and certain aspects of Judaism and having an irrational hatred of Jewish people.

We should eliminate the government of Israel.

The Jews their marketing is excellent.

There are less Israeli than Belgians, but the last ones don't dominate the worldpress.

My evil-me whispers: "The protocols of the Elders of Zion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_protocols_of_zion) are real"


Belgium

Population: 10,392,226 (July 2007 est.)

Israel

Population: 6,426,679

note: includes about 187,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank, about 20,000 in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, and fewer than 177,000 in East Jerusalem (July 2007 est.)


Sources:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/be.html#People
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/is.html#People

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?
The majority? Fuck off. Theres about 3 regular assholes. Thats not even half the number who go gaga for the muslims. Were I you. I'd relax the head.

You sound just like an anti-semite. Are you AP by any chance?

Has it occurred to you that our economic and political power might have come from a culture that encourages study above all else?

Think man, for fucks sake., it has to be human sacrifice and the blood of the blondie children in the bread.....be realistic for once...

I'm not keen on nationalism, nor imperialism, nor ethnic cleansing. There is no ethnic group, philosophy or religion that is privileged to engage in such.

Disapproving of China does not make me an anti-Communist or anti-Asian, disapproving of Iran does not make me anti-Muslim or anti-Persian, disapproving of the US does not make me anti-White and in the exact same way does disapproving of Israel make me neither anti-Jew nor antisemitic.

There are less Israeli than Belgians, but the last ones don't dominate the worldpress.

Oh no, not that again...

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

How come you ask this question, followed by a blatant predudiced claim? ;)

It's a scientific experiment to see if teh J00z rule the internet. If NSG is removed from the tubes then it'll be proof that the conspiracy theorists are right!

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

I think that the bolded part is somewhat preposterous and even a bit offensive.

Anyway, I don't think that "Jews tend to support left wing ideologies" - look, I wouldn't say that the Israeli cabinet is left-wing.

1.I don't believe that ethnical groups are more likely to support a political opinion or the other - that is, I do not believe to this sort of "political racism". Every individual makes his own choices, independently of the ethnical group he's born in.

2.Individuals of the same cultural group, however, are likely to express similar political position. Example: here in Italy, most members of the Jewish communities are centre- or right-wingers. Anyway, I know a lot of people of jewish descent who aren't members of the official Jewish communities (most of them are even atheist or agnostic), and these people are generally more on the left-wing (ranging from democrat to communist and left-wing anarchist).

What many people take for "left-wing antisemitism" is a left-wing opposition to israeli (and not jewish!!!) militarism and expansionism: most left-wingers hope that Israel, being (at least formally) a democracy, will stop behaving like a jerk and recognise the right of the Palestinians to have a country of their own.

(btw, it really looks like you're saying here "NSG is full of commies" and "you hate jews" and "communism is a judaic thing"... well... if this wasn't what you wanted to say, I'd say that you should really explain yourself better)

Exactly the same here. I don't feel hated...

It's the whole persecution complex certain American rightwingers, and occasionally American Jewish rightwingers (IDF comes to mind), like to pretend they have so they have another excuse to hate people of different political inclinations and/or various ethnic groups.

That's not to say we haven't got the occasional racist nuthouse of whichever flavor you can think of. But they're mostly the minority and ignored.

anti-semantic :D

Could be worse. He could have said anti-septic.

The Jews their marketing is excellent.

There are less Israeli than Belgians, but the last ones don't dominate the worldpress.

My evil-me whispers: "The protocols of the Elders of Zion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_protocols_of_zion) are real"


Belgium

Population: 10,392,226 (July 2007 est.)

Israel

Population: 6,426,679

note: includes about 187,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank, about 20,000 in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, and fewer than 177,000 in East Jerusalem (July 2007 est.)


Sources:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/be.html#People
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/is.html#People
Uh...Belgians don't get the world press because Belgian isn't surrounded by insane people who want to see it wiped off the face of the earth, not including ze Germans. :D

Anyway, don't be a fool, the protocols was some stupid Russian propoganda brought up against Judaism. And don't even tell me that Russians don't propoganda. "In Soviet Russia, ve don't haf' zis Vestern concept you call unemployment!":rolleyes:

Anyway, don't be a fool, the protocols was some stupid Russian propoganda brought up against Judaism. And don't even tell me that Russians don't propoganda. "In Soviet Russia, ve don't haf' zis Vestern concept you call unemployment!":rolleyes:

Actually, it should be "in Tsarist Russia etc..." since the protocols were written before WW1 by tsarist officers... ;)

(and it's propaganda)

“In Soviet Russia, ve don’t haf’ zis Vestern concept you call unemployment!”:rolleyes:
Why the German accent? :p

Actually, it should be "in Tsarist Russia etc..." since the protocols were written before WW1 by tsarist officers... ;)

(and it's propaganda)
Yes I know but I was making fun of the how the Soviet Union claimed to have no umemployment thus showing how the Russians NEVER (:p) use propAganda (;)). I know quite well how old it is and what it's about.

Why the German accent? :p
Because I couldn't figure out how to write a Russian accent, but German sounded evil enough. :D










Or....a more accept theory is that the NAZIS TOOK OVER RUSSIA AND WON WWII ZOMGGG!!!!!

Yes I know but I was making fun of the how the Soviet Union claimed to have no umemployment thus showing how the Russians NEVER (:p) use propAganda (;)). I know quite well how old it is and what it's about.

Sorry then.

Anyway... the Soviets really didn't have the idea of unemployment: you could either:
1.accept whatever job the government told you to do, or
2.work in Siberia as a guest of the gulag.

Freedom isn't just having to choose between black and white; it is also the ability to refuse the choices.

Because I couldn't figure out how to write a Russian accent, but German sounded evil enough. :D
Vell, it is not difficoolt too vrite a roossian accent... yoo joost khave to vork around somehov vit the 'w' and 'v', and wictory! ;)


Or....a more accept theory is that the NAZIS TOOK OVER RUSSIA AND WON WWII ZOMGGG!!!!!

OMG! I knew Putin had too much of an aryan look!

Sorry then.

Anyway... the Soviets really didn't have the idea of unemployment: you could either:
1.accept whatever job the government told you to do, or
2.work in Siberia as a guest of the gulag.
Yes, I know. Sorry if I'm coming off as harsh, but I don't understand if you're arguing with me or just stating a historical fact (which I obviously agree with)?

Sorry for the confusion.:p

Vell, it is not difficoolt too vrite a roossian accent... yoo joost khave to vork around somehov vit the 'w' and 'v', and wictory! ;)
:D:D

Zat looks wery much lyk ze German akcent. but you haf' put alot ov' "oo"s in 'zere.:p



OMG! I knew Putin had too much of an aryan look!
Aryan?! :eek: The Nazi Racial Perfectionists would be turning in their graves!:eek: He looks like a freak-zombie-facist-commie-Russian-KGB-thing that will forever haunt my nightmares.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1601/putinisnotpleasedcopymt1.jpg

Zat looks wery much lyk ze German akcent. but you haf’ put alot ov’ “oo”s in ‘zere.
Now you’re going all French on us TAI.

Now you’re going all French on us TAI.
Damn it all! All you fuckin' accents look alike to me!:mad:


;)

Damn it all! All you fuckin’ accents look alike to me!
Take a lesson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIkbcBO_6UQ) from the masters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allo_allo).

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

Since I only know of two or three anti-semites on these boards I have to assume that you, like many, equate any disagreement with the behavior and policies of the nation of Israel with prejudice against Jewish people as a whole.

Anti-semitism? What a jewk.

(I'll get my coat..)

*sigh* I never understood where people get this from. Very few people, in my experience, call those critical of Israeli policies anti-semitic. Hell, a large portion of the younger Jewish generation in America is often extremely critical of Israeli policy. But, seriously, this notion that everyone who is critical of Israeli actions is labeled as anti-semitic is some intellectually dishonest, crazy paranoid bullshit hyperbole.

I have personally been labeled anti-semitic,on this very forum, for criticizing Israel's practices of firing into crowded streets in an attempt to kill suspected terrorist leaders. It was a few years ago under a different user name (Eris Rising I think) so I don't know if I could find the proof if I tried.

I have personally been labeled anti-semitic,on this very forum, for criticizing Israel's practices of firing into crowded streets in an attempt to kill suspected terrorist leaders. It was a few years ago under a different user name (Eris Rising I think) so I don't know if I could find the proof if I tried.

This forum, alas, is the home of much retardation.

Are Jews that criticize Israel anti-Semites?

I have personally been labeled anti-semitic,on this very forum, for criticizing Israel's practices...IDF and the others like him
often use that ("You are just an Nazi/anti-semite") retarded Godwhining.

Just point and laugh at them whenever they behave like retards.. :D

Here's one with a few BIG posters posting things like (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541291&highlight=Jews) "Jews aren't a race" "Jews are lying elitists" How do you people get away with posting such blatantly racist remarks without being banned?

Fish around for more, antisemite threads are bountiful. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=871060&pp=15)
So... 13 pages in and all we have is one statement from Ruffy and one case ofSorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

Yup. You sure are convincing.

Seriously? How come the majority of the NSG community hate Jews even though Jews tend to support left wing ideologies?

Talk to United Beleriand. The rest of us are innocent.

I vote Parsnips!

Most Jews love "anti-semetism". It allows them to pretend to be victims and get their way in everything.

Now, that's anti-Semitism.

From the Right.

Hitler was far-left. Nazi stands for National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party.
Right, and North Korea is called the DEMOCRATIC People's Republic of Korea. I guess by your logic that makes it a beacon of freedom and democracy in the world.

News flash: Politicians - especially dictators - sometimes lie to make themselves look good.

Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn has irrefutably destroyed the myth that the Nazis were "right-wing."
Only because he defined "right-wing" as someone who supports monarchy and aristocracy. By that definition, the most extreme American Republican still wouldn't cut it into the "right-wing" club.

Yes, Kuehnelt-Leddihn did correctly point out that the Nazis traced some of their ideas back to the French Revolution, but he ignored the fact that all modern ideologies (both capitalism and socialism) trace some of their ideas back to the French Revolution.

If you're going to define a "leftist" as a non-feudalist, then yeah, I guess the Nazis were leftist - along with everyone else in Europe and North America. The last remnants of the old feudal and aristocratic right-wing are relegated to such wonderful places as Saudi Arabia.

*****

Basically, the only way to make the Nazis seem "left-wing" is to use a definition of "left-wing" so broad that it includes the vast majority of the political spectrum. For instance, I've heard libertarians claim that a "leftist" is someone who does not support laissez-faire capitalism. Yes, the Nazis would be "leftist" by that definition, but all other governments in the world over the past 100 years - including those of Thatcher and Reagan - would also be "leftist".

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." Coschen hamischpat 405

"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"." Jore dea 377, 1


"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." Sepher ikkarim III c 25

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772
Words from a very different time.

And you're one to talk, after praising the 'class victories over the Kulaks and bourgeoisie' which cost well over a million lives.

Words from a very different time.
I disagree, the Orthodoxies in Israel that demand these apartheid policies and countless Israeli leaders have justified policies of oppression of Palestine on this racist and nationalist framework laid down long ago.

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”

“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.”

“We must expel the Arabs and take their places.”

Israeli PM Gurion - Founder of Israel.

And you're one to talk, after praising the 'class victories over the Kulaks and bourgeoisie' which cost well over a million lives.
Read this please, you will be enlightened:
http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html