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how would you solve

Bacon444
28-10-2007, 20:48
if you were the president of the usa how would you solve illgal imigration from mexico to usa, ill give my theroy tomarrow.
Marrakech II
28-10-2007, 20:50
if you were the president of the usa how would you solve illgal imigration from mexico to usa, ill give my theroy tomarrow.

First: I would use spell check for anything I posted on a forum full of grammar Nazi's

Second: The problem first starts in Mexico with their corruption. Treat the problem instead of the symptoms.
Gartref
28-10-2007, 20:51
if you were the president of the usa how would you solve illgal imigration from mexico to usa, ill give my theroy tomarrow.

I would give them spelling tests at the border. If you fail, you are deported.
Yootopia
28-10-2007, 20:55
First: I would use spell check for anything I posted on a forum full of grammar Nazi's
Grammar Nazis, pleb :p
Second: The problem first starts in Mexico with their corruption. Treat the problem instead of the symptoms.
Yes, quite.

I'd give Mexico mucho dinero to spend on schools and hospitals, so people could be arsed to stay there.
Jello Biafra
28-10-2007, 20:57
Eliminate the concept of illegal immigration by opening the borders.
Yootopia
28-10-2007, 20:58
I would give them spelling tests at the border. If you fail, you are deported.
Spelling in which langauge?

There IS no official language in the US.

Also, if you ran a country-wide programme of 'spell or gtfo', you'd lose about most of the population, seeing as the average punter can't spell too well, to be honest.
New Manvir
28-10-2007, 21:03
Throw Taco Bell® tacos at all illegals trying to cross the border...
Isidoor
28-10-2007, 21:03
a combination of:
- "legalizing" most of the "illegal" immigrants already in the country
- increasing help to Mexicans or other Southern-American nations with a lot of illegal immigration to the USA (real help to the people)
- more patrols in the desert to decrease the deaths.
- increase in the amount of people that can legally immigrate.
- punishing the people who traffic the illegal immigrants more and punish the illegal immigrants themselves less.
- more and better working together with the nations of origin (although I don't know how the relations already are)
Marrakech II
28-10-2007, 21:05
Throw Taco Bell® tacos at all illegals trying to cross the border...


Something scary:

http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/09/news/international/tacobell_mexico.ap/


I like the plan though. Keep Mexicans in Mexico because of the diarrhea caused from Taco Bell. It's hard to walk across the border when your sitting on the pot.
Mystic Skeptic
28-10-2007, 21:14
I would remove the incompetent beurocracy which plugs the mechanisms meant to welcome and organize the flow of the newest members of American Society. If the process of entering legally were not substantially more difficult than crossing a desert on foot than people would be more likely to immigrate legally.
Planet spacebal l
28-10-2007, 21:16
Simple Get the troops out of Iraq, and have them Annex Mexico and get the russians to build a wall on the mexican southern border, which is far smaller.
Yootopia
28-10-2007, 21:22
Throw Taco Bell® tacos at all illegals trying to cross the border...
"HEY SEÑOR! YOUR TACOS ARE EL CRAPPO - I'LL GO BACK TO MEXICO INSTEAD OF EATING THIS RUBBISH!"

*Whhhiiiiiiiite text*
Andaluciae
28-10-2007, 21:24
Make the process of immigration to the United States safe, institutionalized and easily accomplished. If this is done to a sufficient level, combined with increased security in more remote regions, then we ought to be able to do away with "illegal" immigration. High fences, but wide gates.
Verdigroth
28-10-2007, 21:28
Simple Get the troops out of Iraq, and have them Annex Mexico and get the russians to build a wall on the mexican southern border, which is far smaller.

Been there done that got the T shirt...but a lot of soldiers are mexican so you have to wonder which side they would gravitate too.
Ruby City
28-10-2007, 21:29
Crack down on those who hire illegal workers. If you compare the number of workers a company pays income tax for to the size of their business I'm sure the numbers will be way off for those who rely on illegal workers so it should be very easy to find them.

There is obviously a large demand for importing more workers so fill that demand with legal immigration instead.

Work with Mexico to solve the problem that people don't want to stay there.

Get a modern web browser with built in spell checker to avoid the hassle of either spell checking in a word processor or fending off those who can't decode spelling errors.
Call to power
28-10-2007, 21:37
1) have all the immigration laws and policy's translated into Hispanic so the target audience can read them :p

2) recognize Castellano as one of the primary languages of the US (so signs start appearing in two languages)

3) fiesta

4) ponder what all the fuss was about

5) get rid of American borders on maps and see if the rest of the planet/universe can take a hint
Bann-ed
28-10-2007, 21:47
Clearly we need to make the border crossing a reality T.V/game show series called "Who Wants to be an American". (no, seriously, who wants to?).. Aanyway, the United States, with or without the assistance of the Mehican 'Government', should build moats filled with alligators and toss several species of shark into the Rio Grande. Minefields, turrets, vicious attack dogs, burrito traps, high-speed cameras, and film crews would also be placed strategically on the U.S side of the border. Whichever immigrant makes it into the United States successfully and is hired illegally by a company, gets a Free Trip back to Mexico.

So, *everyone is happy.


*Except liberals, Mexicans, companies, and tacos.
Agerias
28-10-2007, 22:03
I have a question -

How will building a wall on the Mexican border stop illegal aliens coming from space?
Good Lifes
28-10-2007, 22:10
Fine every business that employs them $5000/person/day. Use the money to hire more agents to inspect more businesses.

At the same time, give an automatic green card to anyone with a college degree that isn't a criminal or otherwise disqualified.

We don't need competition for the poorest of the poor. We need all the brains we can get. This whole thing is totally upside down.
Yootopia
28-10-2007, 22:29
I have a question -

How will building a wall on the Mexican border stop illegal aliens coming from space?
They'll see that the US has an astonishingly backwards leadership and go and spread their wisdom elsewhere. There you go.
Myrmidonisia
28-10-2007, 22:57
if you were the president of the usa how would you solve illgal imigration from mexico to usa, ill give my theroy tomarrow.

Easy -- Make it extremely unappealing for employers to hire anyone illegally residing in the country. In places where that's practiced, you actually see self-deportation taking place. The second thing would be to eliminate the sanctuary crap that some cities try to pull. Let LEOs enforce laws and give them the training to initiate deportation proceedings against criminals that are here without proper documentation.
Myrmidonisia
28-10-2007, 22:59
The problem is multifaceted and requires much thought.

There are many solutions to a problem like this one, but finding the best one can be a challenge even for the experts.
Wow, you sure have practiced that political speaking...

Why do we need the 'best' solution? Let's pick a 'good' one and work with it.
Bacon444
07-11-2007, 03:11
Simple Get the troops out of Iraq, and have them Annex Mexico and get the russians to build a wall on the mexican southern border, which is far smaller.

that is somewhat my idea just annex mexico no wall though because it will be part of america and yes i no i cant spell for crap.then we get more land and we can build more jobs there and all illgal imigrates or then legal and will be taxed.p.s. sorry i forgot.
Bann-ed
07-11-2007, 03:13
that is somewhat my idea just annex mexico no wall though because it will be part of america and yes i no i cant spell for crap.then we get more land and we can build more jobs there and all illgal imigrates or then legal and will be taxed.

Annex Mexico?
W T F.
Big Jim P
07-11-2007, 03:17
Annex Mexico?
W T F.

Why not? If we pitched it as more a mutual union of the two nations, then Mexico might actually go for the idea, and we end up with ten more states.
Jello Biafra
07-11-2007, 03:18
Why do we need the 'best' solution? Let's pick a 'good' one and work with it.Typically determining what the good solutions are involves determining what the best solution is and then looking to see what other solutions are closest to the best solution.
Bann-ed
07-11-2007, 03:19
Why not? If we pitched it as more a mutual union of the two nations, then Mexico might actually go for the idea, and we end up with ten more states.

I just can't see that ever working.
Big Jim P
07-11-2007, 03:37
I just can't see that ever working.

Why not? The major difficulties to overcome would be the differences in language and culture, but that doesn't seem to be much of a hindrance to the immigrants already here, and the difference in economic levels, which would be a little harder to deal with.

Ultimately Human culture will be a one world culture anyway.
Bann-ed
07-11-2007, 03:43
Why not? The major difficulties to overcome would be the differences in language and culture, but that doesn't seem to be much of a hindrance to the immigrants already here, and the difference in economic levels, which would be a little harder to deal with.


Huge difference in language. The culture problem will more likely be due to American society resistance.
The economic issue is enormous.. The government would probably have to put a large amount of Mexicans on welfare and such. Also then is the problem of jobs, though more might be created.
Basically, it would be like providing for a "third world" country.


Ultimately Human culture will be a one world culture anyway
Tekania
07-11-2007, 03:44
if you were the president of the usa how would you solve illgal imigration from mexico to usa, ill give my theroy tomarrow.

I don't really think there is any need to "solve" it in the first place... I don't have a problem with it, personally.
Dryks Legacy
07-11-2007, 03:45
I'd do what my country always does to solve a pest problem, built a giant fence that stops at ground level and thus is easily burrowed under.
Big Jim P
07-11-2007, 03:46
Huge difference in language. The culture problem will more likely be due to American society resistance.
The economic issue is enormous.. The government would probably have to put a large amount of Mexicans on welfare and such. Also then is the problem of jobs, though more might be created.
Basically, it would be like providing for a "third world" country.

Sadly you are right about US societies resistance, and the economic issue, but having spent a lot of time interacting with Mexicans, I have found that the language difficulties aren't too hard to overcome if both parties are willing to learn.
Bann-ed
07-11-2007, 03:48
Sadly you are right about US societies resistance, and the economic issue, but having spent a lot of time interacting with Mexicans, I have found that the language difficulties aren't too hard to overcome if both parties are willing to learn.

Exactly.
:)
Julianus II
07-11-2007, 03:54
that is somewhat my idea just annex mexico no wall though because it will be part of america and yes i no i cant spell for crap.then we get more land and we can build more jobs there and all illgal imigrates or then legal and will be taxed.p.s. sorry i forgot.

the american state of mexico? Keep talking, I'm liking...

Seriously, illegal immigration puts massive social and economic strains on the U.S. Companies that hire illegals, border traffickers, and the illegals themselves should all be targeted. For starters, anyways
Barringtonia
07-11-2007, 05:08
I used to have a well-thought out proposal to use an enormous chainsaw to cut Wales from England, place an Evinrude motor onto Wales and send it somewhere North, using it from then on as a penal colony - this would solve both the Welsh problem and the overcrowding in jails.

I can't see why this solution cannot be applied to Mexico although I think Americans might want to move themselves, a little out of the way of future hurricanes for example.

I sent this proposal to 10. Downing Street a while back but, curiously, no response - I suspect I'll need to wait for the Tories to get back in.
CthulhuFhtagn
07-11-2007, 05:11
Dig up the corpse of the guy who came up with quotas and set him on fire.
Miodrag Superior
07-11-2007, 05:15
if you were the president of the usa how would you solve illgal imigration from mexico to usa, ill give my theroy tomarrow.

Return California, Nevada and Texas to Mejico, and give them Florida on top of it under condition that these provinces remain bilingual (with English co-official) in the next 50 years (time limit from Hong Kong model) and that all illegal Mejicans in the United Statelets of the Belt Between Canada and Newly Enlarged Mejico have to leave within a week of amputation of the said 4 provinces (statelets).
United Chicken Kleptos
07-11-2007, 05:16
if you were the president of the usa how would you solve illgal imigration from mexico to usa, ill give my theroy tomarrow.

Nuke the world. No more immigration problems.
Posi
07-11-2007, 05:20
I would move back to Canada.
Pirated Corsairs
07-11-2007, 05:31
I would let Congress do the majority of the work on the issue because, as president, it wouldn't be my job to pass laws, and, unlike our current administration, I think it might be a good idea to stick to our constitution at least a little bit.

Also, I would require that every immigrant either make or buy me a taco. :)
Miodrag Superior
07-11-2007, 05:44
Nuke the world. No more immigration problems.

And since the world (Russia, China, Europe, India...) has the ability to nuke the US and destroy all life in it in totality (including Hawai'i, Guam etc.) TWENTY-SEVEN TIMES, your idea shows an incredible level of smartness indeed.

Granted, the US alone can destroy the WHOLE WORLD except its own territory about 8 times too.
United Chicken Kleptos
07-11-2007, 05:50
And since the world (Russia, China, Europe, India...) has the ability to nuke the US and destroy all life in it in totality (including Hawai'i, Guam etc.) TWENTY-SEVEN TIMES, your idea shows an incredible level of smartness indeed.

Granted, the US alone can destroy the WHOLE WORLD except its own territory about 8 times too.

Well, we wouldn't have any other problems then either, unless you count massive nuclear radiation and the extinction of the human race as problems.
Miodrag Superior
07-11-2007, 05:57
Well, we wouldn't have any other problems then either, unless you count massive nuclear radiation and the extinction of the human race as problems.

Not "of human race" but of life on the Earth. Possibly some frozen bacteria would still hibernate in the ice of the Antarctica, but that would be it.

Nothing higher, not even insects could survive, let alone mammals, birds, and reptiles.
The Sadisco Room
07-11-2007, 06:28
if you were the president of the usa how would you solve illgal imigration from mexico to usa, ill give my theroy tomarrow.

I would call THEROOOOOOOOOOOOY JENKINS!!!!

Ok, I'm done now. Sorry.