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Florida police set to enforce absurd law on most absurd night to enforce it

The_pantless_hero
24-10-2007, 15:04
http://www.local6.com/news/14409117/detail.html

Apparently, in Florida it is a misdemeanor to wear a mask in public and in light of recent robberies, police plan to crack down on those people who wear masks in public. The caveat? They plan to do it on Halloween. Enforce a law that bans masks on Halloween. I hope everyone on the police force for that area and probably any other police department they can find plan to be working for 24 hours straight because they are going to be responding to calls from 9 in the morning until probably 3 the next morning.
Edwinasia
24-10-2007, 15:07
Can they arrest G.W. Bush for wearing a mask permanently?
Lunatic Goofballs
24-10-2007, 15:07
If I were in that town, I would arrange(as a protest) for everyone in town to wear a mask. :)
Peepelonia
24-10-2007, 15:09
http://www.local6.com/news/14409117/detail.html

Apparently, in Florida it is a misdemeanor to wear a mask in public and in light of recent robberies, police plan to crack down on those people who wear masks in public. The caveat? They plan to do it on Halloween. Enforce a law that bans masks on Halloween. I hope everyone on the police for for that area and probably any other police department they can find plan to be working for 24 hours straight because they are going to be responding to calls from 9 in the morning until probably 3 the next morning.

Good job too.

I was at one of my sisters house the other day(fixing a 'puter problem) and she was telling me how one of my nephews was randomly attack in the street whilst walking to school by somebody in a Scream mask.

He was attacked with a stick, and the second time(yep it happend twice) was grabbed from behind.

Now the scary thought of course is, who know whether the attacker was a youth or an adult.

I'll be first to admit that not all laws seem sane, but people do use Halloween as an excuse to 'get up to no good' and it seems sensible to me that the police realise this.
Corneliu 2
24-10-2007, 15:09
http://www.local6.com/news/14409117/detail.html

Apparently, in Florida it is a misdemeanor to wear a mask in public and in light of recent robberies, police plan to crack down on those people who wear masks in public. The caveat? They plan to do it on Halloween. Enforce a law that bans masks on Halloween. I hope everyone on the police force for that area and probably any other police department they can find plan to be working for 24 hours straight because they are going to be responding to calls from 9 in the morning until probably 3 the next morning.

3-1 says they will not do so.

Can they arrest G.W. Bush for wearing a mask permanently?

:rolleyes:
Peepelonia
24-10-2007, 15:10
If I were in that town, I would arrange(as a protest) for everyone in town to wear a mask. :)

V for vendetta!:D
Lunatic Goofballs
24-10-2007, 15:15
V for vendetta!:D

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their goofballs. :)
The_pantless_hero
24-10-2007, 15:17
3-1 says they will not do so.


Oh they will do it, until about the 300th call in 2 hours.

Why don't they crack down on people wearing Scream masks because who the hell is going to be wearing one of those?
Andaluciae
24-10-2007, 15:32
It's Florida. What do you expect?
Pirated Corsairs
24-10-2007, 15:36
If I were in that town, I would arrange(as a protest) for everyone in town to wear a mask. :)

Ooooh, just like V for--
V for vendetta!:D

Damn you! I was going to say that.
The Atlantian islands
24-10-2007, 15:36
Your OP is very misleading.....:rolleyes:
In the last four months, city businesses in Cocoa have reported 30 different crimes by armed bandits wearing masks.

According to a Florida law, wearing a mask in public is a misdemeanor, the Local 6 report said.

Officers in Cocoa said they plan to crackdown on the statute around Halloween this year.

"This is new for us," Cocoa police representative Barbara Matthews said. "This is something proactive we are trying. And it may have some kinks. But for most of the law abiding citizens, it's not going to be an issue for them."

Cocoa police officers are telling local businesses to post fliers on their windows, asking customers to remove any type of mask before entering. Store and hotel employees may be asking people to remove masks on their property.

"If they have nothing to worry about, it is going to be a quick encounter and then we are going to be on our way to the next call," Matthews said.

Authorities said they plan to use discretion over who they arrest during the crackdown.
If there have been over 30 crimes commited by people in masks, wouldn't it make sense that they attack on Halloween when everyone is in mask so as to greatly improve their chances of not getting caught.
That's realistic thinking and that's how the police think.....

Maybe think about what your posting next time, don't be so misleading and stop trying to get a rise out of people....:rolleyes:
Isidoor
24-10-2007, 15:37
Good job too.

I was at one of my sisters house the other day(fixing a 'puter problem) and she was telling me how one of my nephews was randomly attack in the street whilst walking to school by somebody in a Scream mask.

He was attacked with a stick, and the second time(yep it happend twice) was grabbed from behind.

Now the scary thought of course is, who know whether the attacker was a youth or an adult.

I'll be first to admit that not all laws seem sane, but people do use Halloween as an excuse to 'get up to no good' and it seems sensible to me that the police realise this.

can't they just enforce that law on every other day than halloween? (I assume that he was attacked at day, and on one of those other days?)
Khadgar
24-10-2007, 15:42
Your OP is very misleading.....:rolleyes:

If there have been over 30 crimes commited by people in masks, wouldn't it make sense that they attack on Halloween when everyone is in mask so as to greatly improve their chances of not getting caught.

It's illegal to wear a mask, so everyone on Halloween is breaking the law, which makes it the single stupidest day of the year to enforce this law.
The Atlantian islands
24-10-2007, 15:44
It's illegal to wear a mask, so everyone on Halloween is breaking the law, which makes it the single stupidest day of the year to enforce this law.
No...think logically..it's the smartest day to be aware because the hypothetical crooks know that they have by far the best chance at getting away by blending into the crowd....

In the article is said they're not just gonna go out arresting everyone, but looking for the people who may commit the robberies again.
Nodinia
24-10-2007, 15:46
Maybe think about what your posting next time, don't be so misleading and stop trying to get a rise out of people...

Whats that, Mr "TEH-MUSLIMZ-IZ-RAYPING-NORWAI"?
Peepelonia
24-10-2007, 15:47
can't they just enforce that law on every other day than halloween? (I assume that he was attacked at day, and on one of those other days?)

Yes on two separate days, but note the points in the post above yours, that is what I was alluding to.
Peepelonia
24-10-2007, 15:47
Ooooh, just like V for--


Damn you! I was going to say that.

Ahhh the fastest type in the umm well SE!
The_pantless_hero
24-10-2007, 15:49
No...think logically..it's the smartest day to be aware because the hypothetical crooks know that they have by far the best chance at getting away by blending into the crowd....

In the article is said they're not just gonna go out arresting everyone, but looking for the people who may commit the robberies again.
No, it's not. It is the stupidest day of the week to enforce the law. It will make it extremely easy for the real people to commit crimes because the police will be running all over the place responding to reports of people wearing masks.

Here's an idea. Go around looking for people with masks not on Halloween. It looks like people are committing crimes in Scream masks, pretty much the only kind available year round. The criminals have only about a 5% chance of changing up what they are doing so going around grabbing people in Frankenstein or Wherewolf get ups isn't going to be doing anything but wasting money and time and making it easier for the real criminals to get away with crimes while the police are busy being complete fucking morons.
Isidoor
24-10-2007, 15:50
Yes on two separate days, but note the points in the post above yours, that is what I was alluding to.

ok then.
Peepelonia
24-10-2007, 15:50
No, it's not. It is the stupidest day of the week to enforce the law. It will make it extremely easy for the real people to commit crimes because the police will be running all over the place responding to reports of people wearing masks.

Here's an idea. Go around looking for people with masks not on Halloween. It looks like people are committing crimes in Scream masks, pretty much the only kind available year round. The criminals have only about a 5% chance of changing up what they are doing so going around grabbing people in Frankenstein or Wherewolf get ups isn't going to be doing anything but wasting money and time and making it easier for the real criminals to get away with crimes while the police are busy being complete fucking morons.

Or it's the cleverest time.

Look out for adults in masks not accommpined by children
The_pantless_hero
24-10-2007, 15:53
Or it's the cleverest time.

Look out for adults in masks not accommpined by children
I'm sure there will be lawyers at adult Halloween parties so I wouldn't suggest that.
Not to mention teenagers in masks either partying or Trick or Treating.
The Atlantian islands
24-10-2007, 15:53
No, it's not. It is the stupidest day of the week to enforce the law. It will make it extremely easy for the real people to commit crimes because the police will be running all over the place responding to reports of people wearing masks.

Here's an idea. Go around looking for people with masks not on Halloween. It looks like people are committing crimes in Scream masks, pretty much the only kind available year round. The criminals have only about a 5% chance of changing up what they are doing so going around grabbing people in Frankenstein or Wherewolf get ups isn't going to be doing anything but wasting money and time and making it easier for the real criminals to get away with crimes while the police are busy being complete fucking morons.
Nope. We're just gonna have to disagree. It's the perfect time to simply blend into the crowd for any criminals....and the police, knowing that, are acting...
Peepelonia
24-10-2007, 15:54
I'm sure there will be lawyers at adult Halloween parties so I wouldn't suggest that.
Not to mention teenagers in masks either partying or Trick or Treating.

Umm why lawyers especially?
The_pantless_hero
24-10-2007, 15:56
Nope. We're just gonna have to disagree. It's the perfect time to simply blend into the crowd for any criminals....and the police, knowing that, are acting...
That is fucking stupid. The police will be running all over the place constantly responding to calls about masked men, and that is not even including the ones patrolling around infringing on peoples' rights who are trick-or-treating. The criminals will have free run.
Kristaltopia
24-10-2007, 18:10
What I'm wondering is whether or not this law extends to face make-up. I recall a gas station that wouldn't let me in on Halloween because I had face paint on & they considered that a "mask."
Mirkana
24-10-2007, 18:53
People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their goofballs. :)

Sigged.

And I won't be wearing a mask on Halloween. If I do dress up, I'm going as the scariest thing imaginable - a lawyer.
Khadgar
24-10-2007, 18:57
Sigged.

And I won't be wearing a mask on Halloween. If I do dress up, I'm going as the scariest thing imaginable - a lawyer.

"What are the claws for?"
"They're for rending human flesh."
Indri
24-10-2007, 21:04
Everyone just dress up in a black of gray suit and a plain green mask. Maybe an afro.
Soviestan
24-10-2007, 21:05
I love this state:p . We do some silly stuff.
Rubiconic Crossings
24-10-2007, 21:09
No...think logically..it's the smartest day to be aware because the hypothetical crooks know that they have by far the best chance at getting away by blending into the crowd....

In the article is said they're not just gonna go out arresting everyone, but looking for the people who may commit the robberies again.

Can't argue with that. I think you are correct. Its the best way to deal with that law.
Katganistan
25-10-2007, 01:22
That is fucking stupid. The police will be running all over the place constantly responding to calls about masked men, and that is not even including the ones patrolling around infringing on peoples' rights who are trick-or-treating. The criminals will have free run.

If you're over five feet tall, what the heck are you doing outside wearing a mask?

IN a party, yes. Walking the streets?!
The_pantless_hero
25-10-2007, 01:49
If you're over five feet tall, what the heck are you doing outside wearing a mask?

IN a party, yes. Walking the streets?!
Beer run?

Bob: "Where the fuck is bill? He left to get some more beer an hour ago and the gas station is down the fucking street!"
Sue: "Bill just called, he's in jail. Said they arrested him for wearing a mask."
UpwardThrust
25-10-2007, 02:05
Good job too.

I was at one of my sisters house the other day(fixing a 'puter problem) and she was telling me how one of my nephews was randomly attack in the street whilst walking to school by somebody in a Scream mask.

He was attacked with a stick, and the second time(yep it happend twice) was grabbed from behind.

Now the scary thought of course is, who know whether the attacker was a youth or an adult.

I'll be first to admit that not all laws seem sane, but people do use Halloween as an excuse to 'get up to no good' and it seems sensible to me that the police realise this.

Then why do they not focus on tracking down those "Up to no good" rather then trying to enforce a realistically unfeasible law (at least on that night)

If I were you I would not be applauding them for doing a "Good job" as their efforts are taking manpower away from tracking down real crimes like finding those that attacked your family member
CthulhuFhtagn
25-10-2007, 02:09
If you're over five feet tall, what the heck are you doing outside wearing a mask?

Trick or Treating. In my experience, people tend to do that until they're about 15 or 16.
UpwardThrust
25-10-2007, 02:14
If you're over five feet tall, what the heck are you doing outside wearing a mask?

IN a party, yes. Walking the streets?!

Beer run

Food run

On the way there

We have downtown here costume contests there are 8-9 bars in a 2x2 block square with tones of contests and prises for thoes that go down I am sure there will be hundreds wandering between them

Hell with the new public smoking ban here there will be tones of people wandering outside the bars to smoke

Same for the house parties ...
Lord Raug
25-10-2007, 02:24
Like it matters police in Florida don't exactly set any records for response time unless it happens to be the longest response time.

They will enforce this the same way they enforce the laws forbidding the use of fireworks. Basically they go after you if you do something really bad like start a wildfire.
Katganistan
25-10-2007, 02:26
Beer run?

Bob: "Where the fuck is bill? He left to get some more beer an hour ago and the gas station is down the fucking street!"
Sue: "Bill just called, he's in jail. Said they arrested him for wearing a mask."

And what, other than lack of brain cells or sheer assholishness, prevents someone from taking the mask off before going out into public? Especially to a convenience store or gas station, which tend to get the most armed robbers?

Please be sensible.

Trick or Treating. In my experience, people tend to do that until they're about 15 or 16.

Ok, that's just....

I think I was done with the free candy and dress up when I was twelve.
UpwardThrust
25-10-2007, 03:16
And what, other than lack of brain cells or sheer assholishness, prevents someone from taking the mask off before going out into public? Especially to a convenience store or gas station, which tend to get the most armed robbers?

Please be sensible.



Ok, that's just....

I think I was done with the free candy and dress up when I was twelve.
Well like some of the examples I posted there are large very public venues in this area with all kinds of costume parties and such, public haunted hayrides. and the sort in the area MADE for attracting adults

I may not be the "mask" I hardly think it reasonable at least in this area to try and enforce that for that ONE night
Katganistan
25-10-2007, 03:43
Obviously, though, if there is a city-sponsored parade or venue, this would not be in effect there, no?

And the article says that store owners should post signs asking people to remove masks before entering. If people can't do that, and can't understand why hiding one's identity in a place that commonly get robbed by masked people would be a problem... I don't know what people are thinking, really.
Free Soviets
25-10-2007, 03:59
If you're over five feet tall, what the heck are you doing outside wearing a mask?

for fun. 'cause it's cold. because you are at a protest.


aren't mask laws unconstitutional?
UpwardThrust
25-10-2007, 04:13
Obviously, though, if there is a city-sponsored parade or venue, this would not be in effect there, no?

And the article says that store owners should post signs asking people to remove masks before entering. If people can't do that, and can't understand why hiding one's identity in a place that commonly get robbed by masked people would be a problem... I don't know what people are thinking, really.

Well if you mean by "City sponsored" a bunch of private bars deciding such a thing or a private business run yearly by a farmer then yes ... otherwise nope ...
The_pantless_hero
25-10-2007, 05:14
And what, other than lack of brain cells or sheer assholishness, prevents someone from taking the mask off before going out into public? Especially to a convenience store or gas station, which tend to get the most armed robbers?

Please be sensible.
The fact that it is Halloween and no one is thinking about it?

Please be sensible.
Kuehneltland
25-10-2007, 05:26
*facepalm*
Nobel Hobos
25-10-2007, 05:28
It's an odd strategy. Perhaps the police are trying to demonstrate that the law is unworkable?
Kuehneltland
25-10-2007, 05:33
Ok, that's just....

I think I was done with the free candy and dress up when I was twelve.

True.
Free Soviets
25-10-2007, 05:47
I think I was done with the free candy and dress up when I was twelve.

sucks to be you then