NationStates Jolt Archive

This really isn't fair. It has nothing to do with our current laws about minorities. Whatever country you come from, your country has also done disgusting things in the past.

That might be true, though I strongly doubt it, but it is still my right to choose which of those things that countries have (allegedly) done are so disgusting Ido not want to live there and whiuch are not. The attrocities committed by the United Statelets of a Belt Between Canada and Mejico are so abhorrent in my value system that I do not want to live there.

No, the rest of the world spells wrong. The correct spelling is harbor and neighbor. Everyone knows that, fool.

No, retard, the world is right and the irrelevant sewer of a country that does it otherwise is wrong.

That might be true, though I strongly doubt it, but it is still my right to choose which of those things that countries have (allegedly) done are so disgusting Ido not want to live there and whiuch are not. The attrocities committed by the United Statelets of a Belt Between Canada and Mejico are so abhorrent in my value system that I do not want to live there.

What "attrocities" (which you misspelled BTW) are you talking about that are so abhorrent that you would not want to live here?

And why do you call them "Statelets"? :confused:

No, retard, the world is right and the irrelevant sewer of a country that does it otherwise is wrong.

You may not like the USA, and you may choose to call it many uncharitable things, but the USA, whatever else it may be, is NOT "irrelevant".

Typos are not bad spelling.

But to write *harbor, *harmonize, *jail, *theater instead of the correct forms "harbour", "harmonise", "gaol" and "theatre" is very much so.

I'm familiar with "harbour", "harmonise", and "theatre", but I've never heard of a "gaol" before. What is a "gaol"? That is, if it's not a misspelling of "goal".

Anywhere that has been the setting of any movie like "Hostel".

That includes Eastern Europe and Texas.

Especially Texas.

Anywhere that contains significant quantities of wilderness. I prefer living in places that are thickly settled, well-ordered, and tamed. There's no frontier spirit hiding anywhere inside me.

What "attrocities" [...] are you talking about that are so abhorrent that you would not want to live here?
Vede supra
And why do you call them "Statelets"? :confused:

Because the usual meaning of the word "state" is an independent country.

You may not like the USA, and you may choose to call it many uncharitable things, but the USA, whatever else it may be, is NOT "irrelevant".

It most certainly is here in China where I have been living since 2005. And it is more and more so in Europe. And on the financial markets of the world. It remains relatively relevant only there where it can cause havoc, like in Iraq, Afghanistan, potentially Syria and Iran.


I'm familiar with "harbour", "harmonise", and "theatre", but I've never heard of a "gaol" before. What is a "gaol"? That is, if it's not a misspelling of "goal".

It is nothing misspelled and the fact that you are not familiar with Oscar Wilde makes you poorly educated. The fact that you do not know that "prison" can be also called "gaol" (misspelled as I explained above "jail" in the United Statelets) makes you illiterate.
http://emotionalliteracyeducation.com/classic_books_online/rgaol10.htm

It most certainly is here in China where I have been living since 2005. And it is more and more so in Europe. And on the financial markets of the world. It remains relatively relevant only there where it can cause havoc, like in Iraq, Afghanistan, potentially Syria and Iran.

Actually, we're probably more significant in world financial markets than we were in the past. NASDAQ in particular is snapping up foreign exchanges left and right, giving the US a major stake in a lot of overseas markets as well as the ones at home. If there's anywhere the US has gotten stronger in recent years, it's in the financial markets.

Actually, we're probably more significant in world financial markets than we were in the past. NASDAQ in particular is snapping up foreign exchanges left and right, giving the US a major stake in a lot of overseas markets as well as the ones at home. If there's anywhere the US has gotten stronger in recent years, it's in the financial markets.

Actually you are wrong. There was a time when US$ was worth 3 times the piece of cloth it was printed on, and now it is not even worth it: it pays to use US$ 1 bills as shredded cotton.

Euro which is today 1.6 dollars was barely 92 cents when it was introduced. US is goping down the drain. It may pull some less powerful countries with it, but it is being flushed down the sewer for sure.

I would not like to live in either Jackass Flats, Nevada nor Sugartit, Kentucky.

you are really boring with your persistant demands for a reason for the US of all places but not for other locations, even though I have listed MANY countries I do not want to live in.

And you really are boring with your persistent bashing of the USA regardless of the huge differences between its various regions. We've had way better trolls.

So what is this? An assumprtion that it is OK for a person about whom you do not know anything (ME, that is) not to want to live in Saudi Arabia but not OK not to want to live in the US? How pathetic of you...
Have you looked at the size of the US? How pathetic of you to assume that Seattle, Washington is all that much like Orlando Florida... they're on the opposite sides of a continent... Even some US states have more diverse topography than Saudi Arabia.

Anyway, just to get rid of your pestering, here are the reasons I do not want to live in the US (which I have visited way too many, i.e. 4, times and for too long a time: for a total of 3 months -- a week once would have been enough):
Blah blah blah, I'm going to bash your country cause I feel like behaving in the manner befitting an arrogant asshole bordering on a troll.

very bad system of government;
If I recall correctly you live in the People's Republic of China. You shouldn't throw rocks when you live in a glass house.

quasi-legal Anglo-Saxon case so-called "law";
See above. Of our homes, which has more political prisoners?

bad English (bad pronounciation, bad sppelling);
Oh come on. This is fucking ridiculous. Dialectical differences are enough that you wouldn't want to live in a country? How utterly silly.

ugly flag;
The PRC's flag is boring and ugly.

ugly coat of arms;
See above and "ugly" blah blah blah is a pretty lame reason.

worthless toilet paper type of currency;
Only recently. Due to idiotic economic policies by an administration I never supported and despised by half the nation.

horrendous history of discrimination and oppression of rightful owners of the land (Firts Nations/Native Americans);
Says the guy who lives in the People's Republic of China. Everybody's nation has blood on its hands, there are no saintly governments in this world.

horrendous history of the treatment of Africans snatched and forced into slavery;
Again, nobody is free from this accusation. Everybody's nation has done horrible things in the past.

no state health service like in Europe;
Legitimate reason, however, lots of us want one.

no social security like in Europe;
We have social security. Not sure where you got the idea that we don't from. Maybe PRC propaganda.

no good public services like in Europe;
Our more progressive thinking areas do have better public services. Not as good as Europe's, but quite a lot of us want to head in that direction.

a total lack of centuries and millennia old buildings like all over Asia and most of Europe...
Legitimate reason.



All in all: simply not my type of environment, just like Saudi Arabia or Lybia (for some of the same and some totally different reasons).
I don't care whether you're using American English or Commonwealth English. It's Libya, not Lybia.


The fact that New England is beautiful in late October and that there is some good food in Louisianna is by no means enough to override all other problems of the irrelevant country of the USofA.

*sigh*
Yet another person so filled with irrational hatred that they stereotype an entire country composed of diverse regions as some monolithic entity. Culturally, many parts of the United States of America are extremely different from each other. For example, San Francisco, California is not much like Dallas, Texas or Biloxi, Mississippi. Neither weather, geography or local culture are very similar.

I am not some conservative moron who says "America is teh best nation on de planet!"

However, I do not like it when people hate our (admittedly misguided) foreign policy so much that they choose to paint the entire country one flat color. In fact, I can only conclude that those who would believe that all regions and people of such a vast country are exactly the same and ignore the obvious differences are nothing more than petty fools.

Although I've never been the one place that has absolutely no interest to me at this moment is the U.S.A ( I may change my mind at some stage);)

Antarctica. I hear it's pretty cold.

Ireland, the Irish in Australia are bad enough with out living there.

Baltimore. 'Nuff said.

Any place with hot weather (specially if they are humid as well), any place where I have to cover myself up and go with someone else to leave my house, any overly polluted place, any place where my presence is not wanted, any place where crime and diseases go rampant, any place full of insects, any big city without good public transportation and smoking bans in restaurants and closed public spaces...

you are really boring with your persistant demands for a reason for the US of all places but not for other locations, even though I have listed MANY countries I do not want to live in.

So what is this? An assumprtion that it is OK for a person about whom you do not know anything (ME, that is) not to want to live in Saudi Arabia but not OK not to want to live in the US? How pathetic of you...

Anyway, just to get rid of your pestering, here are the reasons I do not want to live in the US (which I have visited way too many, i.e. 4, times and for too long a time: for a total of 3 months -- a week once would have been enough):

very bad system of government;

quasi-legal Anglo-Saxon case so-called "law";

bad English (bad pronounciation, bad sppelling);

ugly flag;

ugly coat of arms;

worthless toilet paper type of currency;

horrendous history of discrimination and oppression of rightful owners of the land (Firts Nations/Native Americans);

horrendous history of the treatment of Africans snatched and forced into slavery;

no state health service like in Europe;

no social security like in Europe;

no good public services like in Europe;

a total lack of centuries and millennia old buildings like all over Asia and most of Europe...



All in all: simply not my type of environment, just like Saudi Arabia or Lybia (for some of the same and some totally different reasons).


The fact that New England is beautiful in late October and that there is some good food in Louisianna is by no means enough to override all other problems of the irrelevant country of the USofA.

I disagree. America's a wonderful contry, and it pains me to hear that from you. :(

Just fuck the fuck off, terrorist commie. :upyours:
Oh, calm down and go read the forum rules.

Oh, calm down and go read the forum rules.

Sorry, just got carried away a bit thar. :(

Vede

What are you talking about? What is "Vede" supposed to mean?


Because the usual meaning of the word "state" is an independent country.

OK, I'll grant you this, especially since the "statelets" right to secede from the USA was done away by good ol' Abraham Lincoln after the US Civil War.

It most certainly is here in China where I have been living since 2005. And it is more and more so in Europe. And on the financial markets of the world. It remains relatively relevant only there where it can cause havoc, like in Iraq, Afghanistan, potentially Syria and Iran.

Well, YOU may think it is irrelevant, and it may yet become irrelevant in the future, but at this point in time, it is not irrelevant per se, at least not yet.

It is nothing misspelled and the fact that you are not familiar with Oscar Wilde makes you poorly educated. The fact that you do not know that "prison" can be also called "gaol" (misspelled as I explained above "jail" in the United Statelets) makes you illiterate.
http://emotionalliteracyeducation.com/classic_books_online/rgaol10.htm

I am NOT illiterate, nor "poorly educated". If "gaol" is the correct spelling, then how is it supposed to be PRONOUNCED: "jail" or "gail"? If "gaol" is correct, then it should be pronounced with a "g" sound instead of a "j", i.e. like "gail" instead of "jail". So don't call me illiterate or "poorly educated".

Vede


Because the usual meaning of the word "state" is an independent country.



It most certainly is here in China where I have been living since 2005. And it is more and more so in Europe. And on the financial markets of the world. It remains relatively relevant only there where it can cause havoc, like in Iraq, Afghanistan, potentially Syria and Iran.




It is nothing misspelled and the fact that you are not familiar with Oscar Wilde makes you poorly educated. The fact that you do not know that "prison" can be also called "gaol" (misspelled as I explained above "jail" in the United Statelets) makes you illiterate.
http://emotionalliteracyeducation.com/classic_books_online/rgaol10.htm
How did you get a stick that big that far up your ass?

Typos are not bad spelling.

But to write *harbor, *harmonize, *jail, *theater instead of the correct forms "harbour", "harmonise", "gaol" and "theatre" is very much so.

It is nothing misspelled and the fact that you are not familiar with Oscar Wilde makes you poorly educated. The fact that you do not know that "prison" can be also called "gaol" (misspelled as I explained above "jail" in the United Statelets) makes you illiterate.
http://emotionalliteracyeducation.com/classic_books_online/rgaol10.htm

Oh dear. What a lovely new addition to NSG. Why so angry, sweetie?

Also, go look up "illiterate". And "correct", while you're at it.

Everyone I know is obsessed with moving to the UK for some reason, even though they have never been there before. They think it is filled with nothing but punk rockers and James Bonds where every single person is rich (because they are all successful businessmen when they are not playing punk rock.)

I wouldn't ever want to live there though. To me it seemed like the USA only with higher unemployment and a really rough transition (transferring your life savings from the dollar to the pound with this exchange rate wouldn't be very pleasant.) There was nothing there that made me go "wow, I want to pack up everything, apply for immigrant status and move."

Poison Ivy Island

Poison Ivy Island

It's rough being on the tourism board of Poison Ivy Island...

you are really boring with your persistant demands for a reason for the US of all places but not for other locations, even though I have listed MANY countries I do not want to live in.
And you really are boring with your persistent bashing of the USA regardless of the huge differences between its various regions. We've had way better trolls.

And you are pathetic with your obsessive necessity to defend your state. Even the Chinese I know do not do that, but criticise China. Granted, they are parts of the intelligentsia, unlike you.


So what is this? An assumprtion that it is OK for a person about whom you do not know anything (ME, that is) not to want to live in Saudi Arabia but not OK not to want to live in the US? How pathetic of you...
Have you looked at the size of the US? How pathetic of you to assume that Seattle, Washington is all that much like Orlando Florida... they're on the opposite sides of a continent... Even some US states have more diverse topography than Saudi Arabia.

Have you looked at the size of Saudi Arabia? Seattle, Wash and Philadelphia, Penn are very similar to a European: ugly concrete buildings, a mixture of ugly Caucasians and ugly African Americans, bad English, bad behaviour, tasteless food. Granbted,m there is more rain in Seattle and more ironworks on balconies in Philadelphia.


Anyway, just to get rid of your pestering, here are the reasons I do not want to live in the US (which I have visited way too many, i.e. 4, times and for too long a time: for a total of 3 months -- a week once would have been enough):
Blah blah blah, I'm going to bash your country cause I feel like behaving in the manner befitting an arrogant asshole bordering on a troll.

I am not "bashing" any country, I am mildly criticising a country that I dislike. The fact that you live in that country -- and I am criticising it just mildyl -- doesn't mean that you should get paranoid. Many people believe that the United Statelets of the Belt Between Canada and Mejico (USBBCM, aka just "US"/"USA") should be razed by nuclear bombs because of its aggressive policy towards the world. I do not.

I despise that country, but do not actively hate it. The fact that you happen to live there and feel an obligation to defebnd it is your own problem -- not mine.


very bad system of government;
If I recall correctly you live in the People's Republic of China. You shouldn't throw rocks when you live in a glass house.

Yes, I choose China -- the ONLY China according to the UN, EU, Canada's Russia's -- and the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA") -- "one China policy, because as a Caucasian I am privileged over local population. I can do things they cannot, I am paid many times what they get and I enjoy it very much. Such a system of morganising a country works perfectly well for me.


quasi-legal Anglo-Saxon case so-called "law";
See above. Of our homes, which has more political prisoners?

Both China and the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA") have death penlaty. We in the civilised world -- Europe including Russia and Turkey which are just partly in Europe; Canada, Australia... -- consider that barbaric. I speak against death penalty in China openly. In the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA") if you oppose the governemnt these days you end up in Guantanamo, or deported to Syria as a Canadian citizen (as it happened a few years back to a guy with dual Canadina and Syrian citizenship).


bad English (bad pronounciation, bad sppelling);
Oh come on. This is fucking ridiculous. Dialectical differences are enough that you wouldn't want to live in a country? How utterly silly.

How utterly silly to be unable to master PROPER English spelling. It's not as if we are trying to force you -- descendants of deportees, thieves, prostitutes, vagabonds and other destitutes we were glad to let get away to the Americas -- to speak properly, just to write properly.


ugly flag;
The PRC's flag is boring and ugly.

There you ahve a point: they both are. Even the common EU flag is rather ugly, as are most flags of most countries.


ugly coat of arms;
See above and "ugly" blah blah blah is a pretty lame reason.

"see above" (in proper English: "v.s." from Latin "vede supra") does NOT function in this case. The American vulture on the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA") coat of arms is genuinely disgusting to the point of making people vomit.


worthless toilet paper type of currency;
Only recently. Due to idiotic economic policies by an administration I never supported and despised by half the nation.

And I do not give a shite if it is recently or centuries long.

I was repeatedly asked why I do not want now -- not why I did not want in the past -- to live in a certain country -- out of MANY that I listed as inadequate -- and I explained why I do not. Now.

Besides, who asked you whom you support or do not? Why do you take this personally? In Europe and Asia we can discuss things in general/principle, without recoursing to our own personal stands.


horrendous history of discrimination and oppression of rightful owners of the land (Firts Nations/Native Americans);
Says the guy who lives in the People's Republic of China. Everybody's nation has blood on its hands, there are no saintly governments in this world.

Less people were murdered by the government of Chian than by the government of the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA"). That is quite obvious in the fact that 62 INDIGENOUS nationalities survive in China (only one has died out in the 18th century), while First Nations/Native Americans have been decimated in the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA").

N.B. In proer English "decimated" means that barely 10% (if that many!) survive.


horrendous history of the treatment of Africans snatched and forced into slavery;
Again, nobody is free from this accusation. Everybody's nation has done horrible things in the past.

And again, as I said before -- you are lying. San Marino hasn't done anything horrible. Neither has Monaco, Greenland etc.

But even if all nations had done "horrible things" -- which they have not -- it is I who chooses which of these horrible "things" and deeds are unacceptable for me forever.


no state health service like in Europe;
Legitimate reason, however, lots of us want one.

I do not care what you wwant. I was explaining why I do not want to live in a certain specific country, because I was pressed for reasons. I was not criticising that country as such -- because I have nothing to do with it. I do not want to live there, I do nto care what happens there and I wouldn';t give a damn if it was destroyed tomorrow.

Actually, on the second thought, I would -- because the Metropolitan Museum and a few other ones have valuable collections of European and Asian art. I do not want that lost.



no social security like in Europe;
We have social security. Not sure where you got the idea that we don't from. Maybe PRC propaganda.

Obviously your understanding of China is based on the propaganda you get in that country where you apparently dwell -- and where I myself do not want to live (a fact of personal choice that some morons take the liberty to object to).

Once again, learn to read English -- to the extent that someone who speaks/reads/writes such bad English as you do in your country are able to. I said "no social security LIKE IN EUROPE". There is social security in China, like in the USBBCM (aka "US") but I wouldn't like to depend on these two, only on the European one (if I had to, of course).


no good public services like in Europe;
Our more progressive thinking areas do have better public services. Not as good as Europe's, but quite a lot of us want to head in that direction.

And once again: I do not give a damn about what you want, only what is there. I was expressing ONLY why I MYSELF do NOT want to live there NOW (and -- because of the histroy of destruction of Native Americans/First Nations and slavery -- ever).


a total lack of centuries and millennia old buildings like all over Asia and most of Europe...
Legitimate reason.

All my reasons are legitimate, because they are about my own personal preference for something, not about general objective reports.

Get that fact nto your thick and mostly empty skull.



The fact that New England is beautiful in late October and that there is some good food in Louisianna is by no means enough to override all other problems of the irrelevant country of the USofA.
*sigh*
Yet another person so filled with irrational hatred that they stereotype an entire country composed of diverse regions as some monolithic entity. Culturally, many parts of the United States of America are extremely different from each other. For example, San Francisco, California is not much like Dallas, Texas or Biloxi, Mississippi. Neither weather, geography or local culture are very similar.

I am not some conservative moron who says "America is teh best nation on de planet!"

However, I do not like it when people hate our (admittedly misguided) foreign policy so much that they choose to paint the entire country one flat color. In fact, I can only conclude that those who would believe that all regions and people of such a vast country are exactly the same and ignore the obvious differences are nothing more than petty fools.

I am not painting America anything. America is a great continent. I like Quebec City (in America), and Costarica (in America) very much. I would be very happy to see Brazil (in America), Uruguay, Peru and Argentina (all in America).

But I do not like the USBBCM (aka "US"/"USA") for the reasons enumerated above. That is my personal opinion -- based on emotions and reasoning combined together over a course of 30+ years, since I was in grade 3 and started travellign all over the world -- and there is nothing even a much more intelligent person than you yourself (or even a group of such perosns) can do to change that.

So just learn to live with the fact that your choices are not other people's.

I wouldn't live in the middle east especially Iran,Iraq and Saudi Arabia..

others include China and Mongolia and North Korea....

Denmark (I wouldn't want to live where I'm not welcome)

Yes because Denmark is SO bad. It's SO rascist. ALL danes NAZIS.. Or not:D I can't se the problem... It's up to the danish population to decide how many immigrants to let in and have the population has voted for a government who want's to decrease the immigrations rate.. Democracy working as it should be..

I would return to the motherland. Good ole' Green Ireland! OR stay where I am. In beautiful Texas. Even though we aren't our own country we like to think we are.

Greenland is not a fully independent country... AND IT SUCKS!

There has just been a documentary on the tv here in Denmark... The greenland Home Government is corrupt... the population live in poverty, drugs, alcoholics and child abuse are disturbingly commom... Abusing our own population and putting government funds into your own pockets does not seem a very good way of improving your country...

To: Miodrag Superior

stop this bashing the US will you, its getting more than pathetic :mad:

To: Miodrag Superior

stop this bashing the US will you, its getting more than pathetic :mad:


1. As I have explained in detail, I am not bashing anything.

At first I just said that I would never live in the US, then I was asked if I had a reason.

I said: yes, I did have it, but didn't elaborate, and was pressed further to explain which one it is for me. Only then I said what reasons these were.

2. If you do not like something nobody forces you to read throughout.

3. People who think different are not "bashing" you or attacking you. Such beliefs are paranoid.

4. I do not care what you think is pathetic, and didn't ask you about it. Personally, you yourself appear idiotic to me, but I would have never told you that -- had you not first told me what you think about me, and without being asked.

5. As for taking the liberty -- that I do not give you -- to try to boss me around by telling me what to do (i.e. stop doing something or not), to all who do like you I reply: bugger off, you censorship supporting fascist.

1. 5. As for taking the liberty -- that I do not give you -- to try to boss me around by telling me what to do (i.e. stop doing something or not), to all who do like you I reply: bugger off, you censorship supporting fascist.

At least I don't have to resort to calling others fascist or something like that..
The problem is that your reasons, which you are entitled to, are somewhat lame when you critizise the US.... And on your knowledge of how many have been killed by China, I think you will find that China has more blood on it's hands than the US..
One recent scholarly account asserts that in rural China alone some 36 million people were persecuted, of whom between 750,000 and 1.5 million were killed, with roughly the same number permanently injured. In Mao: The Unknown Story, Jung Chang and Jon Halliday claim that as many as 3 million people died in the violence of the Cultural Revolution
from:
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution#World_reaction

and that is just the cultural revolution...

In the US:
The West Coast
New England (I include New York and New Jersey)
The Southwest
Maryland
Washington D.C.

In the rest of the World:
The U.K.
Europe (East & West)
Africa
The Middle East
Asia
Russia
The Caribean
Central America
South America
Canada

I disagree. America's a wonderful contry, and it pains me to hear that from you. :(
How is that wonderful?

worthless toilet paper type of currency;

horrendous history of discrimination and oppression of rightful owners of the land (Firts Nations/Native Americans);

horrendous history of the treatment of Africans snatched and forced into slavery;

no state health service like in Europe;

no social security like in Europe;

no good public services like in Europe;

And you have the Republican Party and its voters.

^ Your ignorance is painful to read. Please refrain from further ad hominems in the future, especially like the ones you just posted.

^ Your ignorance is painful to read. Please refrain from further ad hominems in the future, especially like the ones you just posted.I am almost sure you don't even know what the phrase ad hominem means.

In the US:

New England (I include New York and New Jersey)



Umm... neither of those are part of New England. New England is Mass., Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Vermont. Only six states. No more, no less.

Euro which is today 1.6 dollars was barely 92 cents when it was introduced. US is goping down the drain. It may pull some less powerful countries with it, but it is being flushed down the sewer for sure.

Currency values =/= economic influence or power. Otherwise, the Soviet Union would've been the pinnacle of world finance and economic development given that its currency was worth nearly $2 per ruble according to official exchange rate. The Euro's worth more because the European Union has grown and shown itself to be a viable, stable entity. That increases confidence in the Euro, which in turn increases demand for the Euro as an alternative to the dollar or yen. Frankly, if the Euro didn't appreciate after the expansion of the EU in years past, it would not be a good sign by any stretch of the imagination.

As much as people want it to be different, the US economy is still strong and the dollar is still king and will be for the foreseeable future.

I am almost sure you don't even know what the phrase ad hominem means.

Well to be a smart ass, here is Webster's take:

Main Entry: 1ad ho·mi·nem
Pronunciation: \(ˈ)ad-ˈhä-mə-ˌnem, -nəm\
Function: adjective
Etymology: New Latin, literally, to the person
Date: 1598
1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

For your viewing pleasure I highlighted, in bold, the part of "Ad Hominem" to which I was referencing to your post.

While I am not defending America's past cruelties to it's minorities, nor am I touting our "Booming" dollar (That is sarcasm, by the way), your ignorance of world history is very painful. Europe's hands, in the eyes of history since you want to go grave digging, are full of similar past instances. America was, afterall, a British Colony; where do you think we got slavery from? We'll go ahead and leave that slippery slope alone though. The Europeans treatment of their neighbors, too, in it's past is far from "Wholesome, family entertainment".

And Europe is FAR from tolerant of of people of "African" heritage. All those extra police called out there for the World Cup for the safty of the African players because of the name calling and other racial slurs directed at them as well as threats to their physical well-being. As for your views on Socialism, that is your opinion. Flaunt what Socio-communist successes it's had but your opinion is far from fact, and as such, is pretty much moot in any debate that is suppose to bring substance to the table.

And I know New York and New Jersey aren't part of New England, hence why I singled them out as personally including them. You must of missed that part though.

Well to be a smart ass, here is Webster's take:

Main Entry: 1ad ho·mi·nem
Pronunciation: \(ˈ)ad-ˈhä-mə-ˌnem, -nəm\
Function: adjective
Etymology: New Latin, literally, to the person
Date: 1598
1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

For your viewing pleasure I highlighted, in bold, the part of "Ad Hominem" to which I was referencing to your post.

While I am not defending America's past cruelties to it's minorities, nor am I touting our "Booming" dollar (That is sarcasm, by the way), your ignorance of world history is very painful. Europe's hands, in the eyes of history since you want to go grave digging, are full of similar past instances. America was, afterall, a British Colony; where do you think we got slavery from? We'll go ahead and leave that slippery slope alone though. The Europeans treatment of their neighbors, too, in it's past is far from "Wholesome, family entertainment".

And Europe is FAR from tolerant of of people of "African" heritage. All those extra police called out there for the World Cup for the safty of the African players because of the name calling and other racial slurs directed at them as well as threats to their physical well-being. As for your views on Socialism, that is your opinion. Flaunt what Socio-communist successes it's had but your opinion is far from fact, and as such, is pretty much moot in any debate that is suppose to bring substance to the table.

And I know New York and New Jersey aren't part of New England, hence why I singled them out as personally including them. You must of missed that part though.

You think social security comes from communism? Btw, Europe never had slaves, USAmericans did. And we don't have people of "African" heritage, we have Africans.

..... Btw, Europe never had slaves,....

:headbang:

Ever heard of the Slave Trade?? the millions of africans moved to European colonies to work on the plantations.. or the slaves in the colonies on the African cotinent who worked to death building railroads and other things for their colonial masters?

Btw, Europe never had slaves, USAmericans did. And we don't have people of "African" heritage, we have Africans.

Umm...those "USAmericans" were Europeans. They had no major uses for slaves back in Europe, so they enslaved them and shipped them to the Americas because that was where slave labor was needed. Slavery did exist in Europe, it just wasn't very visible because the primary source of demand for slaves was in the colonies.

And you are pathetic with your obsessive necessity to defend your state. Even the Chinese I know do not do that, but criticise China. Granted, they are parts of the intelligentsia, unlike you.[quote]
*yawn* mmm... unsupported credentials... tasty... ooh and an ad hominem... that's the icing on the cake.


[quote]Have you looked at the size of Saudi Arabia? Seattle, Wash and Philadelphia, Penn are very similar to a European: ugly concrete buildings, a mixture of ugly Caucasians and ugly African Americans, bad English, bad behaviour, tasteless food. Granbted,m there is more rain in Seattle and more ironworks on balconies in Philadelphia.
Indeed, I have looked at the size of Saudi Arabia. It's not very big and is geographically relatively homogenous.

Ugly this, ugly that, ugly blah blah blah.

Seattle, Washington and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania are very different to anyone who hasn't already formed their opinion in a prejudicial manner. But that would clearly exclude you.

I am not "bashing" any country, I am mildly criticising a country that I dislike. The fact that you live in that country -- and I am criticising it just mildyl -- doesn't mean that you should get paranoid. Many people believe that the United Statelets of the Belt Between Canada and Mejico (USBBCM, aka just "US"/"USA") should be razed by nuclear bombs because of its aggressive policy towards the world. I do not.
Oh and for not supporting mass murder and genocide that makes you a saint? Really now. It's like me saying "I would never want to live in Europe," despite the fact that Berlin and Rome are extremely different or "I would never want to live in China" despite the fact that Beijing and Hong Kong are undoubtedly not exactly alike.

I should have known that someone who would refer to a nation in such a demeaning manner could only be a

I despise that country, but do not actively hate it. The fact that you happen to live there and feel an obligation to defebnd it is your own problem -- not mine.


I'm just calling you on your prejudiced idiocy. But that's what one would expect from a Maoist troll I guess.



Yes, I choose China -- the ONLY China according to the UN, EU, Canada's Russia's -- and the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA") -- "one China policy, because as a Caucasian I am privileged over local population. I can do things they cannot, I am paid many times what they get and I enjoy it very much. Such a system of morganising a country works perfectly well for me.
I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. I simply used the nation's full title and somehow you use it as a springboard for a rant... I think you have even deeper issues than an irrational hatred of the US.

Additionally, you have ethical issues as you seem to see it as perfectly natural and right for you to have privileges over the local population just because you are Caucasian.



Both China and the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA") have death penlaty. We in the civilised world -- Europe including Russia and Turkey which are just partly in Europe; Canada, Australia... -- consider that barbaric. I speak against death penalty in China openly. In the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA") if you oppose the governemnt these days you end up in Guantanamo, or deported to Syria as a Canadian citizen (as it happened a few years back to a guy with dual Canadina and Syrian citizenship).
I'm not talking about the death penalty. Your reading comprehension is very poor. I was talking about...

political prisoners.

Though a travesty of justice, those held in Guantanamo Bay are a drop in the ocean compared to the numbers that China's government has forcefully silenced for speaking their mind when it didn't correlate with the party line.



How utterly silly to be unable to master PROPER English spelling. It's not as if we are trying to force you -- descendants of deportees, thieves, prostitutes, vagabonds and other destitutes we were glad to let get away to the Americas -- to speak properly, just to write properly.
You sure are uppity about the English language, which itself is a bastardized conglomerate of Germanic and Latin grammar and vocabulary, for a guy with such poor spelling.

And you appear to have something against prostitutes. How progressive. *rolls eyes*.



"see above" (in proper English: "v.s." from Latin "vede supra") does NOT function in this case. The American vulture on the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA") coat of arms is genuinely disgusting to the point of making people vomit.
Your flame bait (what your silly "USBBCM" stands for) makes me want to vomit, so this is only fair:

http://flagspot.net/images/u/us)coa.gif

Also, it is an Eagle, not a vulture. Get your facts straight.



And I do not give a shite if it is recently or centuries long.
Of course you don't, a Maoist troll doesn't concern itself with the more complicated aspects of life.

I was repeatedly asked why I do not want now -- not why I did not want in the past -- to live in a certain country -- out of MANY that I listed as inadequate -- and I explained why I do not. Now.
Things change quickly. And the dollar is still very important to the world economy. Your country's currency is even pegged to it.

Also, every post you've made defending your reasons has been full of sweeping generalizations based mostly on prejudices. In addition to flame bait.

Besides, who asked you whom you support or do not? Why do you take this personally? In Europe and Asia we can discuss things in general/principle, without recoursing to our own personal stands.
I'm not taking it personally. You appear to be. I just get sick of idiots saying "I wouldn't live in the US," for no reason other than their own moronic prejudices. Such appears to be the case here.



Less people were murdered by the government of Chian than by the government of the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA"). That is quite obvious in the fact that 62 INDIGENOUS nationalities survive in China (only one has died out in the 18th century), while First Nations/Native Americans have been decimated in the USBBCM (aka just "US"/"USA").
I wasn't necessarily referring to indigenous peoples. You would do better not to assume so much. Much of the blood on China's hands has been shed not because of race or ethnic group but simply because of political views. Of course, a Maoist troll such as yourself would deny such, but the rest of us know that it's true.

N.B. In proer English "decimated" means that barely 10% (if that many!) survive.
Please enlighten me... what is "proer English?" The world "proer" doesn't seem to exist. And this is a UK server.

And don't say "making fun of my typos isn't fair!" I'm drunk and I'm still making far less than you. Either it's epic fail on your part or you're completely shit-faced/plastered/keyed/sloshed/whatever euphemism for extreme inebriation you like best.



And again, as I said before -- you are lying. San Marino hasn't done anything horrible. Neither has Monaco, Greenland etc.
The ancestors of those who dwell in San Marino, Monaco and Greenland have never done anything horrible? Oh really? Greenland is a part of Denmark. Have you ever heard of the Vikings?

But even if all nations had done "horrible things" -- which they have not -- it is I who chooses which of these horrible "things" and deeds are unacceptable for me forever.
I'd say that killing millions of people for their political beliefs is about as unacceptable as whatever the USA's government has done.



I do not care what you wwant. I was explaining why I do not want to live in a certain specific country, because I was pressed for reasons. I was not criticising that country as such -- because I have nothing to do with it. I do not want to live there, I do nto care what happens there and I wouldn';t give a damn if it was destroyed tomorrow.


Actually, on the second thought, I would -- because the Metropolitan Museum and a few other ones have valuable collections of European and Asian art. I do not want that lost.
I think your bridge is in need of a cultural revolution. You better kill off those billy goats gruff, they're full of awful western ideas.




Obviously your understanding of China is based on the propaganda you get in that country where you apparently dwell -- and where I myself do not want to live (a fact of personal choice that some morons take the liberty to object to).
Calling me a moron? Flame on. You accuse me of buying into propaganda? China's government doesn't even allow its citizens to know what happened Tienanmen Square in 1989.

Once again, learn to read English -- to the extent that someone who speaks/reads/writes such bad English as you do in your country are able to. I said "no social security LIKE IN EUROPE". There is social security in China, like in the USBBCM (aka "US") but I wouldn't like to depend on these two, only on the European one (if I had to, of course).
Flame flame flame. So really you don't have a point since China's Social Security is just as bad as the USA's. In your own words that is.



And once again: I do not give a damn about what you want, only what is there. I was expressing ONLY why I MYSELF do NOT want to live there NOW (and -- because of the histroy of destruction of Native Americans/First Nations and slavery -- ever).
This has already been addressed.



All my reasons are legitimate, because they are about my own personal preference for something, not about general objective reports.

Get that fact nto your thick and mostly empty skull.
Blatant flame. Your reasons are based mostly on your own prejudices, as the US you describe isn't the one I live in.




I am not painting America anything. America is a great continent. I like Quebec City (in America), and Costarica (in America) very much. I would be very happy to see Brazil (in America), Uruguay, Peru and Argentina (all in America).

But I do not like the USBBCM (aka "US"/"USA") for the reasons enumerated above. That is my personal opinion -- based on emotions and reasoning combined together over a course of 30+ years, since I was in grade 3 and started travellign all over the world -- and there is nothing even a much more intelligent person than you yourself (or even a group of such perosns) can do to change that.

So just learn to live with the fact that your choices are not other people's.

So you conclude your prejudice and flame-ridden post with semantics. Classy.

Morons do not get it however many times it is repeated: the question was WHY I DID NOT LIKE LIVING IN ONE OUT OF VERY MANY COUNTRIES THTA I HAD LISTED AS UNACCEPTABLE FOR LIVING.

It was NOT why that country is objectively this way or that way, but about WHY I CHOOSE to hold the position/stance I do.

Further, imbecile assumption that I am a Maoist -- and I have never supported ANY party in any of the FIVE countries of which I have been a legal resident (and a citizen of three of them) -- shows the level of paranoiua that debilitates the option of vaguely rational argument.

No, I am not a Maoist; I actually believe he was the same moron with prejudices like Chiang Kai Shek, Lenin, Stalin, William J. Clinton, George W. Bush, George Bush, Ronald Reagan, Eisenhower, Churchill, Tony Blair, Adenauer, De Gaule, etc. and which apparently you are too, though probably not remotely intelligent as any of the afore mentioned (except perhaps the current president of your country, whose IQ is, I hear, about 84).

So you are actually projecting your own beliefs and Weltanschauung by calling others what deep inside is the truth about yourself alone: a Maoist/Stalinist/Clintonist/Bu(ll)shi(t)st.


Anyway, MY country's currency, the Euro is NOT pegged to the dolalr and has gained 86.4% over it since itwas introduced a few years back.

I am European and I choose to live in China because it has culture your country does not, it has not slaughtered its native people like your country has and I receive a better treatment because I am Caucasian, because those people who outnumber us hundreds of thousands to one choose to extend it to us, unlike the institutionalised racism in the illiterate country the capital of which is "inventively" named after the leader of a rebellion of that collection of former colonies -- Washington D.C., a guy that got a handful of colonies semi-independent from England.

That's just about as if had we in Europe been deranged to call Paris Buonaparte or Zurich Zwingli.

I am European and I choose to live in China because it has culture your country does not, it has not slaughtered its native people like your country has

I'm afraid that, regardless which country you look at, everyone has slaughtered its native people, even if it was done by its native people.

China is no different in this regard. Nor is the rest of Asia, Europe, Africa or any of the Americas. Humanity has a tendency to kill competition, through something known as "wars" and it is the fewest of places and least of all china that has not suffered from them.

Paris Buonaparte or Zurich Zwingli.

Nitpick, it's Bonaparte in France.

I am European and I choose to live in China because it has culture your country does not, it has not slaughtered its native people like your country has

I'm afraid that, regardless which country you look at, everyone has slaughtered its native people, even if it was done by its native people.

China is no different in this regard. Nor is the rest of Asia, Europe, Africa or any of the Americas. Humanity has a tendency to kill competition, through something known as "wars" and it is the fewest of places and least of all china that has not suffered from them.

It's still wrong to perform this slaughter, but to claim the moral high-ground is stupid.

Paris Buonaparte or Zurich Zwingli.

Nitpick, it's Bonaparte in France.

F -- and I have never supported ANY party in any of the FIVE countries of which I have been a legal resident (and a citizen of three of them) -- shows the level of paranoiua that debilitates the option of vaguely rational argument.


How can you live in 5 countries and not find a SINGLE party to support? Are you that disagreeable with absolutly everyone? Does this maybe tell you something? Thats like going to the paint store and saying all thier colors suck. At some point maybe its just you.

I am European and I choose to live in China because it has culture your country does not, it has not slaughtered its native people like your country has

So you wouldn't call killing close to 3 million people because they are not maoist, slauthering its native people? :eek:

and secondly relax dude, you take it so damn personally.

How can you live in 5 countries and not find a SINGLE party to support? Are you that disagreeable with absolutly everyone? Does this maybe tell you something? Thats like going to the paint store and saying all thier colors suck. At some point maybe its just you.

Indeed they did not satisfy me. I do not give my vote to someone fallible and all of them had made mistakes in the past, so they are obviously prone to such behaviour.

BTW, your comparison is infantile. Not trusting political parties and especially humans in them, has nothing to do with paints.

Colours are all pleasing in certain circumstances. Most human beings are a necessary nuisance.

Indeed they did not satisfy me. I do not give my vote to someone fallible and all of them had made mistakes in the past, so they are obviously prone to such behaviour.

BTW, your comparison is infantile. Not trusting political parties and especially humans in them, has nothing to do with paints.

Colours are all pleasing in certain circumstances. Most human beings are a necessary nuisance.

Yup its just you.

Morons do not get it however many times it is repeated: the question was WHY I DID NOT LIKE LIVING IN ONE OUT OF VERY MANY COUNTRIES THTA I HAD LISTED AS UNACCEPTABLE FOR LIVING.

It was NOT why that country is objectively this way or that way, but about WHY I CHOOSE to hold the position/stance I do.

Further, imbecile assumption that I am a Maoist -- and I have never supported ANY party in any of the FIVE countries of which I have been a legal resident (and a citizen of three of them) -- shows the level of paranoiua that debilitates the option of vaguely rational argument.

No, I am not a Maoist; I actually believe he was the same moron with prejudices like Chiang Kai Shek, Lenin, Stalin, William J. Clinton, George W. Bush, George Bush, Ronald Reagan, Eisenhower, Churchill, Tony Blair, Adenauer, De Gaule, etc. and which apparently you are too, though probably not remotely intelligent as any of the afore mentioned (except perhaps the current president of your country, whose IQ is, I hear, about 84).

So you are actually projecting your own beliefs and Weltanschauung by calling others what deep inside is the truth about yourself alone: a Maoist/Stalinist/Clintonist/Bu(ll)shi(t)st.


Anyway, MY country's currency, the Euro is NOT pegged to the dolalr and has gained 86.4% over it since itwas introduced a few years back.

I am European and I choose to live in China because it has culture your country does not, it has not slaughtered its native people like your country has and I receive a better treatment because I am Caucasian, because those people who outnumber us hundreds of thousands to one choose to extend it to us, unlike the institutionalised racism in the illiterate country the capital of which is "inventively" named after the leader of a rebellion of that collection of former colonies -- Washington D.C., a guy that got a handful of colonies semi-independent from England.

That's just about as if had we in Europe been deranged to call Paris Buonaparte or Zurich Zwingli.
I have to ask it again, how did you get a stick that big that far up your ass?

I have to ask it again, how did you get a stick that big that far up your ass?

It ain't a stick, ms/mr.cannot-do-anything-right, it's your tongue. And yes, it is long and big, to fit in your big mouth.

It ain't a stick, ms/mr.cannot-do-anything-right, it's your tongue. And yes, it is long and big, to fit in your big mouth.

Seriously, do a search for "Fass" or "Fassitude" or "Fassigen" and learn how to do this shtick properly. You're far too clumsy to pull this off.

See, however hard it may be for a self-centred wacco like yourself to comprehend, this is not about you enjoying anything, the least so what you might think is funny.

It's about me putting the hollow ball on your nose and turning you into a clown.

Is it not time to call a cease fire on this issue and just agree to disagree and then leave it there?

Currency values =/= economic influence or power. [snip]

As much as people want it to be different, the US economy is still strong and the dollar is still king and will be for the foreseeable future.

Point 1. True - Currency value does not equal economic influence or power.

However, trends in exchange rates between currencies do indicate the confidence that the financial institutions have in the relevant economies. Given this, it is difficult to argue that the level of confidence in the US economy is high at the moment.

Point 2. By what measure do you want to claim that the US economy is strong and the dollar king?
The US economy is in a hole at the moment, and a hole that really does not have any obvious way of escape. The total internal debt is greater than the net income of those that have this debt to service. How is that an indication of strength? The financial institutions have made such a mess of their risk management that they don't even know how much exposure they have to different types of financial risk. (Adherence to the Basel II agreement seems to be purely lip service or smoke and mirrors).

The manufacturing sector is in decline, the construction industry is receding faster still and the service industries are competing to obtain the fewer disposable dollars available.

Hum strong it is not.

While oil still matters and while oil is traded in USD, then the dollar will still have value, but neither of these two conditions is going to be ever present. So the dollar will not be king for the foreseeable future, but only for a very short period in the immediate future. Don't worry though, in the end it hardly matters as the US economy will collapse due to its over dependence on oil and foreign investment long before the dollar becomes as useful an international currency as the Danish Krona currently is.

Well... Lessee...

1. China - Authoritarian, violent government guilty of massive crimes against human rights. No liberties at all, practically. Universally brainwashed.

2. The South - too hot, too redneck, and far too Republican.

3. Northern Ireland

4. The Middle East

5. Russia

6. California - Far too... California.

7. Most other Authoritarian or Totalitarian countries

8. Europe - Not true, really. I'd love to live in parts of Europe, if I did not have an American accent and an American build. However, I do, and I don't want to deal with the hate that a number of my friend's dealt with on exchange trips. I don't have the energy to defend a government I never supported in the first place.

Actually, I'm happy where I am: The Pacific Northwest has a wonderful climate, wonderful scenery, fairly wonderful people, decent politicians, diversity (no, really), and a very alive feeling. I suppose Canada would be fine, too.

8. Europe - Not true, really. I'd love to live in parts of Europe, if I did not have an American accent and an American build. However, I do, and I don't want to deal with the hate that a number of my friend's dealt with on exchange trips. I don't have the energy to defend a government I never supported in the first place.


I think it's sad that there is this hate towards the US. It's like it is, at least in Denmark, become popular to hate the US. And the hate grows the more to the political left you move...

See, however hard it may be for a self-centred wacco like yourself to comprehend, this is not about you enjoying anything, the least so what you might think is funny.

It's about me putting the hollow ball on your nose and turning you into a clown.

We already have a forum clown, thanks.

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Consider this a hint to stick to the debating and leave off the baiting. You're perfectly capable of doing that, I'm sure.

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