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Well it had to happen eventually didn't it?

So anyway, which motherfucking console is the best? I don't want any sensible, reasonable and balanced answers, I want you to dig down hard into your fanboy instincts and tell me which way you swing.. on the erm... three way.. swing?

Just fucking vote!

As one who owns none of them, but as the former roommate of a guy who owned two of the three, and neighbor of a guy that owns the other one, I can fairly say that I have experience with all of them, and yet I own none of them, resultant of that is the fact that I've got not invested interest in any system. I also own a PS2 and an original XBOX, with an N64 tucked away for further fun, thus eliminating any potential for me to be rated a fanboy for any of them individually.

My votes go for the Wii, followed by the 360 and after that the PS2, then the PS3.

Yeah, I rated the PS2 above the PS3. What of it?

you forgot the PC.

you forgot the PC.

...

No, just no.


(;))

The Playstation 3 is inarguably the most powerful console. I refuse to hear anyone try, because it is quite simply open-and-shut. While at the moment it has the least games, its only a matter of time before game producers move onto its superior power, and start producing games that barely run on the XBox 360. (A key reason for GTAIV delays, as released by Rockstar, is difficulty getting the game to run as seamlessly on Xbox as it does on PS3)

The Wii however appeals to a whole other kind of game developer. Its motion-sensing technology redefines how people play games. While with the original atari a simple stick and single button ensured anybody could play it, today the 16-button/pad/stick layout of both sony and xbox mean that only seasoned gamers can easily pick up a game. In comparison, any idiot regardless of age or experience can play the Wii. For this reason, it clearly has the widest marketability, and one day may well replace the monopoly board for family entertainment. As such, with these two it is very close and difficult to call, and due to my own bias i chose the PS3 as first, simply because id prefer Metal Gear, Killzone and Final Fantasy to Mario Party.

The XBox360 however simply lacks Wii's incredibly wide appeal, and lacks the power of the PS3. Oblivion for instance is currently selling on ps3, pc and xbox, and the xbox version is generally regarded as the glitchiest, least smooth version. The majority of those in the know say that the 360 will soon be redundant, and a new console will have to be soon released if competitiveness and titles will remain in Microsoft's hands. Why would one buy a console if theyre upgrading every one or two years when one could simply do the same with a PC, but have a more powerful and more versatile machine as a result? Then theres the point of the technical bugs; bump an XBox 360 while running and it will eat your game, almost guaranteed. Meanwhile, drop the Sony or Nintendo 5 feet while playing and they wont even skip. I dont care how many good games it has as the games will come for the other titles; a poorly-built machine is a poorly-built machine. Furthermore computer technicians, when opening up the 360, are met with what they immediately recognise as year-old computer parts. On top of this, the amount of money spent on advertising, buying exclusive games and fixing all the units that break down mean that Microsoft is barely breaking even despite currently dominating sales. It simply is not generating enough money to pay for itself and then profit on top of that. The 360 is clearly an attempt to buy into the genre, and arguably a failing attempt. Last place

My Dreamcast is better than all three of those shitty systems combined.

I'm a proud owner of a Wii and 360, as well as the following consoles and handhelds:
NES
SNES
N64
Gamecube
PS2
Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advance
DS
PC

The Wii is freak'n awesome. I already created a mini-army of Miis. At first, they segregated themselves. The blacks hung together in one group and the whites and Asains in another, some distance away. Soon, however, they got over their differences and started to form just one big group.

The Wii also has Zelda, Metroid, Mario, and Super Smash. It might also have F-Zero and Star Fox soon, though I doubt the latter.

I like my 360. Downloaded my Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Scorpians, and Metallica cd's onto the harddrive. Play Halo 2 and Viva Pinata. VP makes up for all the crap Rare released on the 'boxes previously.

Don't have a PS3. Can't afford the backwards compatible versions and not having BC is just pathetic. I'm not buying an expensive console just for 3 games.

Back in the good ol' days we had us an N64 and we were happy playin' our tank wars. Now you kids wit your comfounded systems that don't even last 6 months under intense heat and multiple tramplings, think yer so tough...

The Playstation 3 is inarguably the most powerful console. I refuse to hear anyone try, because it is quite simply open-and-shut. While at the moment it has the least games, its only a matter of time before game producers move onto its superior power, and start producing games that barely run on the XBox 360. (A key reason for GTAIV delays, as released by Rockstar, is difficulty getting the game to run as seamlessly on Xbox as it does on PS3)


So? A lot of game developers hate making games on the PS3's awkward system, just because it's more powerful doesn't mean it will have better games. Xbox 360 is much more user friendly to game developers apparently, this is why many developers are reluctant to develop for the Ps3.


The Wii however appeals to a whole other kind of game developer. Its motion-sensing technology redefines how people play games.

It's a gimmick. Fun for a while, but you soon forget about it. However, it's still better then PS3 imo, since nintendo do make absolutely amazing games now and again that makes it worth buying a wii.


While with the original atari a simple stick and single button ensured anybody could play it, today the 16-button/pad/stick layout of both sony and xbox mean that only seasoned gamers can easily pick up a game. In comparison, any idiot regardless of age or experience can play the Wii. For this reason, it clearly has the widest marketability, and one day may well replace the monopoly board for family entertainment. As such, with these two it is very close and difficult to call, and due to my own bias i chose the PS3 as first, simply because id prefer Metal Gear, Killzone and Final Fantasy to Mario Party.


What a lame example of nintendo to compare with.


The XBox360 however simply lacks Wii's incredibly wide appeal

And?


and lacks the power of the PS3.

So?


Oblivion for instance is currently selling on ps3, pc and xbox, and the xbox version is generally regarded as the glitchiest, least smooth version.

Thats total bullshit. For instance, in gamespot, it is rated highest on xbox 360: http://uk.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&tag=search%3Bbutton&om_act=convert&om_clk=search&qs=oblivion


The majority of those in the know say that the 360 will soon be redundant, and a new console will have to be soon released if competitiveness and titles will remain in Microsoft's hands.

Thats what they said about the ps2, but it still destroyed the other consoles in sales, despite its shitty specs.


Why would one buy a console if theyre upgrading every one or two years when one could simply do the same with a PC, but have a more powerful and more versatile machine as a result?

Console gaming and pc gaming is just not the same.


Then theres the point of the technical bugs; bump an XBox 360 while running and it will eat your game, almost guaranteed.

Nonsense.


Furthermore computer technicians, when opening up the 360, are met with what they immediately recognise as year-old computer parts.

Source?


On top of this, the amount of money spent on advertising, buying exclusive games and fixing all the units that break down mean that Microsoft is barely breaking even despite currently dominating sales. It simply is not generating enough money to pay for itself and then profit on top of that. The 360 is clearly an attempt to buy into the genre, and arguably a failing attempt. Last place

Thats stupid, thats not a reason at all. If your assertions are true, I don't give a shit. Even if xbox 360 is 100x more likely to break when bumped, that doesn't stop it from being a better console.

The Playstation 3 is inarguably the most powerful console. I refuse to hear anyone try, because it is quite simply open-and-shut.
CELL is more powerful than Xenon, but much more difficult to program for. The video chip in the 360 is actually more powerful than the one in the PS3. Xbox 360 also has 64MB more RAM and doesn't require any silly workarounds due to it being split in half like on the PS3. Overall the PS3 is better, and we will see that in a few years. Still, the difference isn't that great. The gap between Wii and 360 is far wider than the gap between 360 and PS3.

While at the moment it has the least games, its only a matter of time before game producers move onto its superior power, and start producing games that barely run on the XBox 360. (A key reason for GTAIV delays, as released by Rockstar, is difficulty getting the game to run as seamlessly on Xbox as it does on PS3)
The whole point of a console is to play games. 360 is the best console right now, because, unlike PS3 and Wii, it has them.

Why would one buy a console if theyre upgrading every one or two years when one could simply do the same with a PC, but have a more powerful and more versatile machine as a result?
You don't need to buy the addons if all you want to do is play games. There's no new Xbox on the horizon either; the 360 will likely have the same 5 year lifespan as the original Xbox did.
Meanwhile, drop the Sony or Nintendo 5 feet while playing and they wont even skip.
Please, film when you drop your PS3 5 feet and upload it to youtube for us, preferably while it loads a level in a game. That should be interesting.


I'm not a fanboy, but I hope I'm allowed to chip in with an opinion anyway. Right now, it's 360 >>>>>>> PS3 > Wii. PS3 and Wii just don't have enough quality games to be worthwhile purchases, not right now. In 2 years, I predict it'll be PS3 >> 360 >>>>> Wii. Yes, PS3 is behind now, but it's selling well on name alone, and publishers, especially Japanese ones, still believe in the platform. And yes, Wii is selling like hotcakes, but publishers for some reason believe that only casuals have a Wii, which means that all they will make for the platform will be minigames and games for kids. Sad, really. Of course, that might all change if Wii gets a couple of mature games that sell really well. I kind of doubt that though, seeing as it's selling well despite having mostly minigames, and because was in the news recently that 67% of Wii owners haven't used their console lately.

The Playstation 3 is inarguably the most powerful console.
And?

Let’s play some games before we orgasm over specs.

As such, with these two it is very close and difficult to call, and due to my own bias i chose the PS3 as first, simply because id prefer Metal Gear, Killzone and Final Fantasy to Mario Party.
Hardly a fair comparison.

TLOZ: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Super Mario Galaxy, perhaps?

The majority of those in the know say that the 360 will soon be redundant, and a new console will have to be soon released if competitiveness and titles will remain in Microsoft’s hands.
Sehr interessant...

Who’s saying this?

Then theres the point of the technical bugs; bump an XBox 360 while running and it will eat your game, almost guaranteed.
That’s true; my flatmate’s on his second copy of Oblivion.

As to the OP, the Wii is my definite favourite; if only for camaraderie of Everybody Votes. The 360 and PS3 are much the same as previous consoles, but with better specs. Which is a good and bad thing.

I'll hold off all judgement till Sony release some titles I can get stuck into.

The Playstation 3 is inarguably the most powerful console. I refuse to hear anyone try, because it is quite simply open-and-shut. While at the moment it has the least games, its only a matter of time before game producers move onto its superior power, and start producing games that barely run on the XBox 360. (A key reason for GTAIV delays, as released by Rockstar, is difficulty getting the game to run as seamlessly on Xbox as it does on PS3)

You do realise how high development costs and times are right now? I really doubt that many devs will bother learning to use all of the PS3

The majority of those in the know say that the 360 will soon be redundant, and a new console will have to be soon released if competitiveness and titles will remain in Microsoft's hands.

Bullshit, I listen to all kinds of games journalists and I don't hear any of that. Unless of course you're talking about analysts. Have you ever read an analyst's report, those guys don't understand the games industry at all.

Wii for me. The upcoming games for it are the ones that interest me the most. I'm getting Metroid Prime 3 this week, for example! Also, Super Smash Bros. Brawl is shaping up to be one of the best games of all time.

The 360 has some upcoming games that interest me, like Mass Effect, but there just isn't enough there yet to make me buy one, especially with all the hardware concerns I've heard about. As a long-time Nintendo fan, I expect my consoles to work for at least... well... forever. :)

The PS3... no. Just no. There are pretty much no games that interest me, so it definitely wouldn't be worth it.

My husband and I are proud owners of these consoles as well as two PCs:

Wii
DS
NES
SNES
N64
GameBoy (original)
GameBoy Pocket
Sega Dreamcast
Sega Genesis
PS2

The Wii is pretty fun but the preferred console for us is our handheld DS. I love Trauma Center.

The Playstation 3 is inarguably the most powerful console. I refuse to hear anyone try, because it is quite simply open-and-shut.
do you have benchmarking figures for this by any chance?

lets not also forget the 360 was out a year+ before the PS3, so its hardly surprising technology has moved on.


[QUOTE=Kalashnivoka;13156703]Then theres the point of the technical bugs; bump an XBox 360 while running and it will eat your game, almost guaranteed. Meanwhile, drop the Sony or Nintendo 5 feet while playing and they wont even skip.

bullshit.



i wouldn't call myself much of a fanboy in this area, but i do hate the fanboyism of (some) Sony/PS fans. that kinda turns me into a anything-but-Sony fanboy. i think this is largely from having a friend who was such a PS2 fanboy it made me want to pummel his face in.

i used to love my 360, and i still do. but since getting my Wii i hardly play it any more. the Wii just appeals to me more, particularly as a pick-up-and-play kind of console, unlike the more 'serious' games out for the 360 (and the PS3 assumedly)

i also have no interest in HD movies. HD gaming rocks (360 compared to Wii), but the idea of buying my pretty vast DVD collection again as HD-DVD or BluRay, just to get slightly better resolution, is really not appealing to me.


as an anti-Sony fanboy, i hope the PS3's terrible sales performance continues, and BluRay fails.

to summise, Wii > 360 > PS3
with the Wii at the top because to me its the most fun :)

XBOX 360, because of HALO 3. PS3 is so fucking expensive, no one wants to buy that shit. Wii sucks the most. My mp3-player has more flash memory than Wii FFS!!

I prefer real computers. Consoles are just toys.

well, i dunno about the best, but as a fervent PS-er, I'm actually getting the 360 before the PS3 as my first 6th gen. console (Gens: NES, SNES/Sega,[ones inbetween i can't remember] PS, PS2.

and why, you may ask? for Ace Combat Six: Flames of Liberation
Wheels up 10/23/2007

Project Aces:The Next Generation of Aces

Wii is the best for me. It's cheap, It's got unique interfacing, and the technology is only going to get better.

The ps3 is powerful and absurdly so. If you don't have a 1080i TV your graphics are not going to be any better than an Xbox 360 and if you have a very old tv they won't be any better than a last gen console. The ps3 is also $600 that is a lot of money considering if you don't have a super high def tv you have to buy one of those as well to get the full experience of the ps3.

The xbox360 is basically an xbox on steroids it has more power but for the most part has nothing innovative about it. It is however going to continue to compete with the ps3 simply because it is cheaper and most games that come out for one system come out for the other.

Other than that sony is not putting out a new system for probably 10 more years. The ps3 hurt their budget significantly. On the other hand Microsoft and nintendo could put out a new system long before that.

Other than that sony is not putting out a new system for probably 10 more years. The ps3 hurt their budget significantly. On the other hand Microsoft and nintendo could put out a new system long before that.

mm that would kill off the PS3 nicely. Xbox launching a new console 3 years down the line (so the 360 has a 4 year lifespan), making it backwards compatible with all 360 games, and a ton more powerful than the 'awesome' PS3.... hehe i love it :D

i wonder where Nintendo will go after the Wii 3 or 4 years down the line?:confused:

So? A lot of game developers hate making games on the PS3's awkward system, just because it's more powerful doesn't mean it will have better games. Xbox 360 is much more user friendly to game developers apparently, this is why many developers are reluctant to develop for the Ps3.

It's a gimmick. Fun for a while, but you soon forget about it. However, it's still better then PS3 imo, since nintendo do make absolutely amazing games now and again that makes it worth buying a wii.

What a lame example of nintendo to compare with.

And?

So?

Thats total bullshit. For instance, in gamespot, it is rated highest on xbox 360: http://uk.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&tag=search%3Bbutton&om_act=convert&om_clk=search&qs=oblivion

Thats what they said about the ps2, but it still destroyed the other consoles in sales, despite its shitty specs.

Console gaming and pc gaming is just not the same.

Nonsense.

Source?

Thats stupid, thats not a reason at all. If your assertions are true, I don't give a shit. Even if xbox 360 is 100x more likely to break when bumped, that doesn't stop it from being a better console.


umm...this is supposed to be a debate based solely on fanboyism


I don't want any sensible, reasonable and balanced answers, I want you to dig down hard into your fanboy instincts and tell me which way you swing


I don't think you're allowed to ask for sources....


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*Fanboy meter explodes*

Gotta love the nintendo, who else's main advertising point is that you can work up a sweat with a six inch vibrator?

mm that would kill off the PS3 nicely. Xbox launching a new console 3 years down the line (so the 360 has a 4 year lifespan), making it backwards compatible with all 360 games, and a ton more powerful than the 'awesome' PS3.... hehe i love it :D

i wonder where Nintendo will go after the Wii 3 or 4 years down the line?:confused:

You know, I don't believe for a second that Sony is going to wait 9 more years until they release PS4. When they talk about how PS3 is going to last a decade, they probably mean that it will continue to be manifactured and get new games, despite PS4 being out, just like the PS2 is today. And as you say, Xbox 720 when it's annunced in a couple of years will make the PS3 seem as old and insufficient as PS2 is today. Sony will probably want to have something on the PS4 ready to counter with.

As for Nintendo, they simply don't have the resources to compete with Sony and MS on performance, so it's probably safe to say that we'll get a Wii 2, which will basically be the same console, only faster and with more memory.

So? A lot of game developers hate making games on the PS3's awkward system, just because it's more powerful doesn't mean it will have better games. Xbox 360 is much more user friendly to game developers apparently, this is why many developers are reluctant to develop for the Ps3.This just reflects what we call a "learning curve."

So game developers have to learn a few new tricks... from what I've read, the PS3 was designed with cutting-edge development in mind: the stuff the kids are just learning in school now, the new stuff that reinvents threading and how processing works. So the old farts with established developers are whining? Let them. In-the-know predictions seem to suggest that once next-generation developers start to employ the full power of the PS3, everyone else will either have to catch up or be left in the dust.

Sony says they think of the PS3 in "ten-year" terms. I like that. I think they're planning for what developers WILL be able to do rather than what they're comfortable with now.

Thats total bullshit. For instance, in gamespot, it is rated highest on xbox 360: http://uk.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&tag=search%3Bbutton&om_act=convert&om_clk=search&qs=oblivionYes, but why don't you try reading the actual review? "The graphics are slightly better, the load times are shorter, and there is a bit of new content in the form of the Knights of the Nine add-on, which is available as a separate purchase on other platforms."

The principal advantage of the 360 version, according to the reviewer, appears to be that XBox Live offers more additional content. But as far as the system goes, the PS3 seems to have improved the technical aspects.

Thats what they said about the ps2, but it still destroyed the other consoles in sales, despite its shitty specs.Yes, but I think there are real differences now in terms of where development is going. For one thing, developers are already pressing the limits of what you can fit on a DVD. If you want games to keep getting more complex, more intelligent, AND with better graphics and physics, either you will eventually need more space or something has to give. The Blu-ray format is going to leave the 360 far, far behind, I think.

Not to mention the fact that the movies are cool, too.

Yes, but why don't you try reading the actual review? "The graphics are slightly better, the load times are shorter, and there is a bit of new content in the form of the Knights of the Nine add-on, which is available as a separate purchase on other platforms."

The principal advantage of the 360 version, according to the reviewer, appears to be that XBox Live offers more additional content. But as far as the system goes, the PS3 seems to have improved the technical aspects.

Oblivion is a poor example of the superiority of the PS3, as it is nowhere near as impressive looking as either the 360 or the PS3 is capable of.

Also, the PS3 didn't improve the technical aspects - the developers did. They had, what, a year of extra time to improve the game. It should be better simply because there was more time to polish and optimize it.

The current gen systems I have are Wii, PSP, and DS, and I want to get an XBox 360. I have no interest in the PS3 because there's nothing to justify that price, not enough good games, and I'm simply not buying another Sony product of any kind until they change the PSP to play home made games again.
XBox 360 meanwhile has a large number of very good looking games already out for it and many more on the way, and the same goes with the Wii as well.
Plus the 360, Wii, and DS stay focuses on being game machines. Sony puts too much emphasis on playing movies, and my brain just hurts trying to find the logic in the PS3 being the cheapest blu-ray player. Either they're seriously price-gouging the other players, or the PS3 is the biggest piece of crap blu-ray player on the market.
I really don't care what processing power or graphics each system is capable of. What I want are good games and lots of 'em, and the best game I've played in either this gaming generation or the last was Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions, a remake of a game originally released two generations ago when even the DS would have been an amazing power house.

I got a 360 for several reasons:

1.) Mass Effect
2.) it was slightly cheaper to buy a 360 than upgrade my PC
3.) PS3 sucks

You know, I don't believe for a second that Sony is going to wait 9 more years until they release PS4. When they talk about how PS3 is going to last a decade, they probably mean that it will continue to be manifactured and get new games, despite PS4 being out, just like the PS2 is today. And as you say, Xbox 720 when it's annunced in a couple of years will make the PS3 seem as old and insufficient as PS2 is today. Sony will probably want to have something on the PS4 ready to counter with.

very true, i just enjoyed my little fantasy :P

As for Nintendo, they simply don't have the resources to compete with Sony and MS on performance, so it's probably safe to say that we'll get a Wii 2, which will basically be the same console, only faster and with more memory.

oooh see, that's what i'm not so sure of. i understand that Nintendo doesn't have the same resources as MS or Sony for development, so - as with the Wii and DS - they've gone for a new angle and for playability. if they did the same again with their next console, i predict a big flop. especially if the Wii's motion-sensing, pointing, etc, capabilities are worked into the Xbox and PS offerings by that time as well.

what i was really wondering was what will Nintendo come up with next? where can they take innovation to now? hmmm....



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Plus the 360, Wii, and DS stay focuses on being game machines. Sony puts too much emphasis on playing movies, and my brain just hurts trying to find the logic in the PS3 being the cheapest blu-ray player. Either they're seriously price-gouging the other players, or the PS3 is the biggest piece of crap blu-ray player on the market.

true... though it does irk me a bit you have to pay extra for the HDDVD player for the 360 (and its just a USB peripheral)

but i actually use my 360 more as a media centre than for games these days. and its saved me buying something equal to the price to do the same job (like this (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?FRE-27446))

just wish it played divx movies :(
and the HD is tiny.... but it suits my needs for the most part

I haven't tried the ones that aren't Wii. I don't give a crap about how many extra <insert numerical hardware spec here> the others have.

what i was really wondering was what will Nintendo come up with next? where can they take innovation to now? hmmm....

Wii will be a fucking Holodeck.

I prefer real computers. Consoles are just toys.

That's the point. I'm sure IBM Blue Gene/L is cool from an engineering perspective, but I don't think it has any good games.

Also, the PS3 didn't improve the technical aspects - the developers did. They had, what, a year of extra time to improve the game. It should be better simply because there was more time to polish and optimize it.But doesn't that kind of fly in the face of the argument that the PS3 is so terribly hard for developers?

One would think that if it were such a pain in the ass, a year wouldn't give them any time to improve the game--they'd need that much time just to figure out how to work it.

I don't think you can have it both ways.

That's the point. I'm sure IBM Blue Gene/L is cool from an engineering perspective, but I don't think it has any good games.

No, but my PIV does. Plus I can watch discs, burn them, log on to this site, work on what I brought home from the office...

I have nothing against toys. But when my computer can do everything they can, plus a whole lot more, why would I want a console?

true... though it does irk me a bit you have to pay extra for the HDDVD player for the 360 (and its just a USB peripheral)

but i actually use my 360 more as a media centre than for games these days. and its saved me buying something equal to the price to do the same job (like this (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?FRE-27446))

just wish it played divx movies :(
and the HD is tiny.... but it suits my needs for the most part

yeah but you can get the HD boosted, you just need to know the right people if you can't do it yourself - the right tweaks and you end up with a monster system that you can use for just about anything - i am a huge fan of XBOX 360, love it but like had a PS2 first and was pretty torn between what to get but thought I'd check out the 360 first - maybe i'm missing something but the Wii has never appealed to me - maybe it's the name :D

As a casual female gamer, the Wii rules. End of story.

i wanted to vote for whichever one didn't include the microsuxx hunk of garbage in it. but they all had it at least once.

the only time i ever considered getting a xbox1 was when we had 3 people in the same house that drank mountain dew and you could get a "free" one with so many 'points'.

i don't care how great its graphics might be, and told halo to go to hell, because, well, it's microsuxx of course.

My 360 is mainly used for Viva Pinata and music nowadays. Don't want a PS3. Now, my Wii. I've been a loyal Nintendo supporter ever since I played Yoshi's Island in 1995. Since then, I've conquered Super Mario Bros. on the NES, accumulated a pretty large N64 library of 30 or so games, and played my Gamecube so much, the laser and whatnot broke down from overuse. My Wii is mah Gamecube now.

360, Wii, PS3.
While I don't have a Wii, I know a couple friends who do, and they say it's pretty cool. I myself own a 360, which I have because pretty much every single game I want to get comes out for 360, and the PS3 is friggin' expensive. I've never had a RROD or any problems, other then one time where some idiot kicked my system while I was playing CoD3, and it did indeed screw the disk. I even played with it a bit with a couple months left in the warranty just to see what it could take, and it survived two weeks of being left on with a game in (24/7) without a problem. A year and a bit after that, and it's still running strong.

I wanted to vote for the

NintenGO!
the new and only Nintendo portable compatible with the Nintendo Wii,
but it was not listed above

Xbox has Halo, making it the best.
Wii is rather clever.
PS3 sucks.

But the PC destroys them all. Why?

PC is the only one that can get NSG.

Beat THAT!

i wonder where Nintendo will go after the Wii 3 or 4 years down the line?

whatever it is, it will jack straight into your head and allow you to control giant robots. the robots will then play mariokart.

But doesn't that kind of fly in the face of the argument that the PS3 is so terribly hard for developers?

One would think that if it were such a pain in the ass, a year wouldn't give them any time to improve the game--they'd need that much time just to figure out how to work it.

I don't think you can have it both ways.

Sure I can. The PS3 is harder to develop for, but that's a hurdle can obviously be overcome, and it's going to be easier as the developers get more familiar with the PS3 and the dev tools improve. But it does take more effort to make a game for the PS3 than the 360. That's all I'm saying.

And as for an example of a port going the other way, look no further than Lost Planet.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9166/1193151926057rd0.jpg

I have never tried Wii, so unfortunately that automatically put it last for me. I also don't own either a Xbox 360 or a PS3, but have spend quite a lot of time playing both of them. I guess what swung me towards PS3 was that I've just always loved the Sony consoles better. Ever since way back in the day with my PS1 and Gran Turismo, I was in love. While the 360 comes close to perhaps changing that, it doesn't quite do it.

oooh see, that's what i'm not so sure of. i understand that Nintendo doesn't have the same resources as MS or Sony for development, so - as with the Wii and DS - they've gone for a new angle and for playability. if they did the same again with their next console, i predict a big flop. especially if the Wii's motion-sensing, pointing, etc, capabilities are worked into the Xbox and PS offerings by that time as well.

what i was really wondering was what will Nintendo come up with next? where can they take innovation to now? hmmm....

I don't think they need to massively reinvent themselves again for the next generation, because I don't think either MS or Sony will use motion sensing as the main method of input in their next consoles. I think we'll see it used as a compliment, like in the Sixaxis or as an add-on, but that's not a threat to Nintendo's niche today, and it won't be in the future either.

Why I don't think we'll play on Wiimotes on every console in a few years is because it doesn't work that well with all types of games. Any game that requires many buttons, speed or precision will play best on a regular game pad. For example, I can't imagine playing a racing simulator or a fighting game with a Wiimote. And we've seen how developers think that Wii lends itself well to Wiimote based minigames, but how they do everything else on other consoles. There's also the perception that the Wii user is a casual user, which further makes it undesirable to put the "serious" games on Wii. Fair or not, I don't see this changing.

I could be all wrong, of course. Maybe MS and Sony will look at the success of the Wii and decide to follow, and with that drastically change the types of games that will be made. It's a scary thought, and not completely out of the question I guess.

So game developers have to learn a few new tricks... from what I've read, the PS3 was designed with cutting-edge development in mind: the stuff the kids are just learning in school now, the new stuff that reinvents threading and how processing works.

Cell is designed to do floating-point calculations FFS!

I got a 360 for several reasons:

1.) Mass Effect
2.) it was slightly cheaper to buy a 360 than upgrade my PC
3.) PS3 sucks

Can't argue with that.

Xbox has Halo, making it the best.
Wii is rather clever.
PS3 sucks.

But the PC destroys them all. Why?

PC is the only one that can get NSG.

Beat THAT!

Actually the PS3 and Wii have internet browsers. Also having Halo doesn't make anything the best.

Xbox has Halo, making it the best.
Wii is rather clever.
PS3 sucks.

But the PC destroys them all. Why?

PC is the only one that can get NSG.

Beat THAT!
As Dryk notes, both the Wii and the PS3 have web browsers. The Wii uses Opera, I’m not sure what the PS3 will use. Though it is a bit clunky to handle sometimes, there’s a number of sites cropping up now that have games specifically designed for the Wii; which is nice.

Oh, and Halo 3 is, IMHO, not that great. Its fun on Xbox Live, but it’s a fairly boring game, especially on Legendary.

Zero Punctuation (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation)
Sony Defence Force (Don't worry, it's a joke) (http://sonydefenseforce.com/)

With the recent pricedrop and the big hitters(UT3, R&C, HAZE, Uncharted, coming for PS3 this fall, winter, and spring, I'd have to vote Wii, PS3, 360, in terms of sales last week. However, since the question is hard to understand, I chose to vote for the most value for the money, so my vote goes to PS3, Wii, 360.

PS3 is the most powerful, with innovative features. Wii is quite weak, but adds even more innovation than the PS3, while 360 is simply a more powerful sixth generation console.(we're in the seventh generation now). PS3 is thus the only seventh generation console which is both insanely powerful(more powerful than the 360, even) and has innovative features(motion sensing) ala the Wii.

If the sixth generation was the online generation, then the seventh could be defined as the one where motion sensing controllers were made standard.
MGS, etc)
Also, concerning the long development times, this i a mere myth now. Sony has released quite a few good middleware tools, and both Unreal Tournament 3 and Haze will release a lot earlier on the PS3 than the 360. All developer say that once you learn how to use the Cell properly, it's easy.

I am in no way a fan of Microsoft, I'm writing this on a mac for starters, and a year ago I would have slapped myself for saying this, the Xbox360 isn't a bad console. It's not particularly good, but it is more...robust than the Wii, which has a floaty, light, attempt to appeal to the whole market feel about it. As for the PS3, the latest descendant of my traditionally favourite line, has disappointed me. Overpriced and no real quality enhancement other than graphical, which I feel was unnecessary.

Well, the price is dropping to 350 USD now, so the overprised complaint seems misplaced no :)

Well, the price is dropping to 350 USD now, so the overprised complaint seems misplaced no :)

Now we get to complain about the lack of backwards compatibility instead.

PS3 is the most powerful, with innovative features. Wii is quite weak, but adds even more innovation than the PS3, while 360 is simply a more powerful sixth generation console.(we're in the seventh generation now). PS3 is thus the only seventh generation console which is both insanely powerful(more powerful than the 360, even) and has innovative features(motion sensing) ala the Wii.

The only game I can remember getting praise for SIXAXIS stuff has been Warhawk.

^^Yeah, lol! At least it still works with PS1.

^And Rachet and Clank, the MGS4 demo, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Lair(post-firmware update), Super Rubbaduck, fl0w, LocoRoco, & more, mostly downloadable games.

Wii is great imo, the games are few and far-between here in Australia but still the best fun I have with a console for many years.
The 360 has a few major errors with it but it has plenty of fun games and it is reasonably priced here.
The ps3 is something I loathe, around here you pay a huge amount for it compared to overseas, the architecture has the potential to be relatively powerful but the basic design does require a huge amount of work for it to be realized. Sixaxis doesn't work well in any of the games I have played and blur-ray may not be a safe bet for the next format medium. I don’t like the quality of the titles either; games like Resistance: Fall of Man are just junk, I played through it one night and it was yawn-worthy at best.

Having access to each and every system (including PC) My list would be:
Wii
PC
360
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Ps3 all down here.

But here on the net everyone has an opinion so I don't assume anyone will take notice to this one post. :(

^^Yeah, lol! At least it still works with PS1.

^And Rachet and Clank, the MGS4 demo, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Lair(post-firmware update), Super Rubbaduck, fl0w, LocoRoco, & more, mostly downloadable games.

I have to admit though that I did hear praise for the SIXAXIS stuff in HS, a little bit for Ratchet, haven't been paying that much attention to Uncharted. Also from what I heard from 95% of the internet Lair controls like arse. I have no doubt that eventually someone will do it right (*cough* Kojima *cough*) but right now I'm just not really hearing that much good stuff.

My loyalty is with Sony and Playstation. I got my PS3 last week and I couldn't be happier with it. It like getting a gaming system, computer and blu-ray player all-in-one for under $600. not bad. Granted there aren't a lot of games now, but 1st quarter next year there will be GTAIV, Socom:Confrontation, Gran Trismo, MGS, and assassins creed. All of which will be reason enough by themselves to buy the system. Anyone who says the Wii is better, is probably just too poor to get a PS3(not always, just mostly). So my list is PS3, 360 and Wii.

Oh, and Halo 3 is, IMHO, not that great. Its fun on Xbox Live

Its amazing! Especially when you have lots of friends who also have a 360. Going on forge and making crazy maps, and then playing them 16 player is the shit. There is so much customisation that can be done, and the ranking system gives it its competitive edge. It just never gets boring.


, but it’s a fairly boring game, especially on Legendary.

Well I don't know what to say, I just disagree. I mean the graphics are amazing, the level design is damn good, the AI are incredibly smart and well.. its just great fun.

The wii is fun, but the xbox 360 is a lot better
the ps3 just plain sucks

i don't have a ps3 but its just to high priced to be good and wiis you get tierd of gaming way sooner and umm how much online play dus it have?2 games

360 all the way

Considering I have none of the current-gen consoles, I really cannot say much. However, I can state the observations I have been making.

Out of all the consoles, the Playstation 3 is the most hated. Why? I am not entirely sure. In fact, I am not sure why any console would be hated. The Playstation 3 does what it was originally made to do and that is to play games. If there is no games on there, its not the consoles fault. Its not even Sony's fault either. Game developing companies make games for a console so its not entirely Sony who is making them. Ubisoft, Capcom, Konami, Electronic Arts and other companies produce games which goes onto a console. What does this mean? It means that if you want games to go onto a console, bitch at them. If you want games to go onto a console, buy the console.

Sadly, the anti-Sony, anti-PS3, is what I suspect as a phase. It seems to be the cool thing to do these days on the internet. Seriously. I actually am not getting a console because how everyone is acting towards one another. There is no reason to insult another person because they bought a specific piece of hardware. Its completely stupid and nothing good will come out of it. Yet, humans will be humans and flawed we are indeed.

"I hate war and hurting people, thats why we need to kill all the people that cause it." Nurblet0rz.

Considering I have none of the current-gen consoles, I really cannot say much. However, I can state the observations I have been making.

Out of all the consoles, the Playstation 3 is the most hated. Why? I am not entirely sure. In fact, I am not sure why any console would be hated. The Playstation 3 does what it was originally made to do and that is to play games. If there is no games on there, its not the consoles fault. Its not even Sony's fault either. Game developing companies make games for a console so its not entirely Sony who is making them. Ubisoft, Capcom, Konami, Electronic Arts and other companies produce games which goes onto a console. What does this mean? It means that if you want games to go onto a console, bitch at them. If you want games to go onto a console, buy the console.

Sadly, the anti-Sony, anti-PS3, is what I suspect as a phase. It seems to be the cool thing to do these days on the internet. Seriously. I actually am not getting a console because how everyone is acting towards one another. There is no reason to insult another person because they bought a specific piece of hardware. Its completely stupid and nothing good will come out of it. Yet, humans will be humans and flawed we are indeed.

"I hate war and hurting people, thats why we need to kill all the people that cause it." Nurblet0rz.

It has a lot with Sony's completely failed PR. A few examples: they showed off pre-rendered videos and lied about it being footage from the game (such as Killzone 2), they promised completely unrealistic things like dual 1080p at 60fps (which has been shown to be pretty much impossible), they dismissed Nintendo's motion sensing only to steal the idea immediately after, they removed rumble due to a patent lawsuit they refused to settle but claimed that it was because rumble was a "last-gen technology", they claimed that people would love to pay $600 for the PS3 and have accused Microsoft of doing nothing but copying Sony. And that's just off the top of my head! There's been so much bullshit and arrogance coming from Sony that I find it amazing that they have any fans left.

I think the console itself is rather well designed. I especially like that the hard drive is included (WHY did you remove it from the standard package, Microsoft!?) and that online play is free. But it has a serious lack of games right now, which is another reason people dislike it. It doesn't matter how amazing the console is if there's nothing to play on it.

Its amazing! Especially when you have lots of friends who also have a 360. Going on forge and making crazy maps, and then playing them 16 player is the shit. There is so much customisation that can be done, and the ranking system gives it its competitive edge. It just never gets boring.
Well, it is indeed a lot of fun, but I don’t know if I would go mad over Halo Live. It is just another multiplayer FPS. A damn good multiplayer FPS indeed, but it’s nothing new.

Well I don’t know what to say, I just disagree. I mean the graphics are amazing, the level design is damn good, the AI are incredibly smart and well.. its just great fun.
But it’s such a slog, especially on Legendary. As to graphics, AI, etc., the above applies here too. All well and good, but nothing groundbreaking.

Though more of the same is what most people are wanting, I’ll grant you.

Out of all the consoles, the Playstation 3 is the most hated. Why? I am not entirely sure. In fact, I am not sure why any console would be hated. The Playstation 3 does what it was originally made to do and that is to play games. If there is no games on there, its not the consoles fault. Its not even Sony's fault either. Game developing companies make games for a console so its not entirely Sony who is making them.

It's Sony's responsibility to get games onto their system, they haven't been doing that very well. Sony have also been market leader for two generations now, that makes it their responsibility to lead the industry.

It has a lot with Sony's completely failed PR. A few examples: they showed off pre-rendered videos and lied about it being footage from the game (such as Killzone 2), they promised completely unrealistic things like dual 1080p at 60fps (which has been shown to be pretty much impossible), they dismissed Nintendo's motion sensing only to steal the idea immediately after, they removed rumble due to a patent lawsuit they refused to settle but claimed that it was because rumble was a "last-gen technology", they claimed that people would love to pay $600 for the PS3 and have accused Microsoft of doing nothing but copying Sony. And that's just off the top of my head! There's been so much bullshit and arrogance coming from Sony that I find it amazing that they have any fans left.

You forgot constantly berating Microsoft for their backwards compatibility issues, then removing backwards compatibility.

i enjoy the wii and 360. the wii is finally starting to release some of its major titles. the ones that the fanboys have wet dreams over. still they need to convince developers that it can do more than just mini games. its FPS ports aren't bad. lets see if they can manage an RPG. that would be astounding on a nintendo system.
the 360 took a while getting to where it is and now nobody is expecting the other consoles to make the trip that 360 had to. however, it does have a lot of good games. and no halo 3 is not one of them. it is just more of the same from FPS. its a GOOD FPS yes but still about as innovative as a next year model sedan. still it has fanboys that rival even the most die-hard nintendo fan. MARIO has shown more innovation FFS!!!
As for the PS3 its last as i am withholding judgement until it gets some real games. and i'm not talking the god of war clone that is heavenly sword. i withhold judgement for now.
also i use my pc for most of the 360 games i like. if they really wan to control more of the market they have to stop putting 360 only games on the pc. till then though i enjoy the graphics improvements i'm getting

360, followed by the PS3. I don't find that the Wii lends itself particularly well to either prolonged, or serious, gaming. Tremendously good fun as a console at a party, and the moment it has a cricket game it will win hands down, but the Wii simply is not what I look for in a genuine games console.

360, followed by the PS3. I don't find that the Wii lends itself particularly well to either prolonged, or serious, gaming. Tremendously good fun as a console at a party, and the moment it has a cricket game it will win hands down, but the Wii simply is not what I look for in a genuine games console.

Isn't "serious gaming" kind of an oxymoron? ;)

360, followed by the PS3. I don’t find that the Wii lends itself particularly well to either prolonged, or serious, gaming.
You haven’t played Twilight Princess or Metroid Prime 3, obviously.

I agree that the Wii is a very sociable console, but the idea that it has no meaty games is just wrong.

TOKYO, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Japan's Nintendo Co Ltd (7974.OS: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Thursday it now expects to sell 17.5 million units of its Wii game console in the year to March, up from its previous target of 16.5 million.

First-half Wii sales came in at 7.3 million units.

The Japanese game maker, known for such game characters as Mario and Zelda, also raised its sale forecast for the DS handheld player to 28 million units from 26 million. First-half sales came in at 13.4 million units.

Demand for the Wii has been strong for the last couple of months, easily outpacing Sony's (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) PlayStation 3, although Microsoft Corp's (MFST.O: Quote, Profile, Research) rival Xbox 360 has gained ground on its alien shooting game "Halo 3".


I'd expect that the Wii will outsell the 360 by Christmas, especially with their more family-friendly line up and that anyone can pickup a Wiimote and play Wii Sports.

however, it does have a lot of good games. and no halo 3 is not one of them. it is just more of the same from FPS. its a GOOD FPS yes but still about as innovative as a next year model sedan. still it has fanboys that rival even the most die-hard nintendo fan. MARIO has shown more innovation FFS!!!

i would agree. i never found Halo that OMFG111!! amazing. it was always good and well-rounded, but it was mostly just another FPS. Halo2 i actually found very disappointing as it was, again, largely more of the same.

have yet to get Halo 3.... i'm looking forward to the online multiplayer with friends, but that's about it.


however, i'm looking forward to Fable 2 a lot!

yet to get Halo 3.... i’m looking forward to the online multiplayer with friends, but that’s about it.
It’s fun, but nothing special.

however, i’m looking forward to Fable 2 a lot!
Mos def!

Mos def!

Seconded!

Point-and-click Adventure Games! (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/938681.asp)

Seconded!

Provided that Peter Molyneux doesn't ruin it by promising the moon on a stick and not delivering....



.... again



(Though I am still looking forward to it :))