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or post here because misery loves company.


Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

...No...


*kicks you in the crotch repeatedly for even giving me the thought*

As Captain Kirk said,

"I've ..... always known......


..................................



.............


I'll die... alone."

Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

Yup, but it doesn't really bother me that much anymore. I've never been anything but alone, unloved and miserable, but you get used to it. Or at least I did.

As Captain Kirk said,

"I've ..... always known......


..................................



.............


I'll die... alone."


"...Oh my......

...................................

................................"

Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

Why not? Except for the part about being miserable, that is. ;) I've never felt a need to have someone "love" me, and I spend all my time alone unless I'm at work, which involves no teamwork. If it ever made me miserable, I'd stop doing it, but it doesn't, so no complaints. :)

Yup, but it doesn't really bother me that much anymore. I've never been anything but alone, unloved and miserable, but you get used to it. Or at least I did.
*sigh*

I don't want to though. Is it really too much to ask for someone to actually give a shit about me?

or post here because misery loves company.


Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

All the time. Rather then feel down about it, I try to take pleasure in the simple things of life, and generally be there for others when they need my help now.

or post here because misery loves company.


Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

Welcome to my world. :D And quite frankly, the I beleive the human race is going to end within a matter of years so if that be the case many other people are in the same boat.

*sigh*

I don't want to though. Is it really too much to ask for someone to actually give a shit about me?

For somebody who seems so open and interesting, you have a lot of problems with guys.

I'm guessing that the guys who try to get into you don't even think about it, guys are usually assholes...

I want the minute I spent on this thread back now.

For somebody who seems so open and interesting, you have a lot of problems with guys.

I'm guessing that the guys who try to get into you don't even think about it, guys are usually assholes...
I'm beginning to think that all guys are assholes. Except the ones who are taken (maybe). Maybe there are some gay ones who aren't too, but then maybe they're also taken.


Most girls are probably bitches too, but I don't date them so this isn't something I encounter in this way.

I'm beginning to think that all guys are assholes. Except the ones who are taken (maybe). Maybe there are some gay ones who aren't too, but then maybe they're also taken.


Most girls are probably bitches too, but I don't date them so this isn't something I encounter in this way.


No duh all humans are flawed, the sooner Bush causes a nuclear winter the better.

For somebody who seems so open and interesting, you have a lot of problems with guys.

I'm guessing that the guys who try to get into you don't even think about it, guys are usually assholes...

If a girl is interested in a guy, my experience tells me that he's almost certainly an asshole.

If she isn't, then there's only a 50% chance of him being an asshole. I've learned that women are attracted to assholishness.

I figure I'm going to be dead and alone with-in the next 5 years. Beats getting old. :)

I'm beginning to think that all guys are assholes. Except the ones who are taken (maybe). Maybe there are some gay ones who aren't too, but then maybe they're also taken.


Most girls are probably bitches too, but I don't date them so this isn't something I encounter in this way.

Come on, that's not fair. I'm not an asshole! :p


That said, I've never had a girlfriend before (homeschool), so go ahead and make your own assumptions.

If a girl is interested in a guy, my experience tells me that he's almost certainly an asshole.

If she isn't, then there's only a 50% chance of him being an asshole. I've learned that women are attracted to assholishness.

Likewise...

If a guy is interested in a girl, my experience tells me that she's almost certainly an psycho.

If he isn't, then there's only a 50% chance of her being a psycho. I've learned that men are attracted to psychoticness.

I'm beginning to think that all guys are assholes. Except the ones who are taken (maybe). Maybe there are some gay ones who aren't too, but then maybe they're also taken.


Most girls are probably bitches too, but I don't date them so this isn't something I encounter in this way.

I'm not taken, and at least I don't think I'm an asshole...

If a girl is interested in a guy, my experience tells me that he's almost certainly an asshole.

If she isn't, then there's only a 50% chance of him being an asshole. I've learned that women are attracted to assholishness.

Why? :confused::headbang:

Come on, that's not fair. I'm not an asshole! :p


That said, I've never had a girlfriend before (homeschool), so go ahead and make your own assumptions.
If you've never had a girlfriend before and you're being homeschooled you're probably just too young to be an asshole.

Likewise...

If a guy is interested in a girl, my experience tells me that she's almost certainly an psycho.

If he isn't, then there's only a 50% chance of her being a psycho. I've learned that men are attracted to psychoticness.

Really, my experience hasn't taught me that at all. Why even among my own girlfriends, psychotic tendencies only have about a 50% prevalence.

But seriously, I think this whole "all guys are assholes" type of thinking is kind of offensive. Not because I get assumed to be an asshole - I'm fine with people thinking that, as long as I get to make farting noises - but because people like me (who aren't assholes) just get dismissed. I mean it's like to Dakini, us nice guys don't exist, sexually. Perhaps we're gay. Or invisible. Or just irrelevant.

And it's not Dakini or anyone on this thread alone, this is a big problem. People dismiss what's right in plain view without thinking about it. No wonder everyone's a misanthropic, jaded cynic.

If you've never had a girlfriend before and you're being homeschooled you're probably just too young to be an asshole.

I finished homeschool, I'm nineteen years old, and I work in a supermarket. Nobody dislikes me, though one of my supervisors is a bitch. Like I said, I'm not an asshole. A self-professed jackass when I want to be (read: when it's funny), but definitely not an asshole or a dickhead. :p

Maybe you should listen to some Bob Mould to get over your bad mood, eh?

Everyone gets depressed sometimes, emo kids are just people who have to be really annoying about it.

I finished homeschool, I'm nineteen years old, and I work in a supermarket. Nobody dislikes me, though one of my supervisors is a bitch. Like I said, I'm not an asshole. A self-professed jackass when I want to be (read: when it's funny), but definitely not an asshole or a dickhead. :p

Maybe you should listen to some Bob Mould to get over your bad mood, eh?

Really, my experience hasn't taught me that at all. Why even among my own girlfriends, psychotic tendencies only have about a 50% prevalence.

But seriously, I think this whole "all guys are assholes" type of thinking is kind of offensive. Not because I get assumed to be an asshole - I'm fine with people thinking that, as long as I get to make farting noises - but because people like me (who aren't assholes) just get dismissed. I mean it's like to Dakini, us nice guys don't exist, sexually. Perhaps we're gay. Or invisible. Or just irrelevant.

And it's not Dakini or anyone on this thread alone, this is a big problem. People dismiss what's right in plain view without thinking about it. No wonder everyone's a misanthropic, jaded cynic.

I'm not taken, and at least I don't think I'm an asshole...

Watch and be enlightened (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA93yV9StN4) on the whole "asshole dickhead" subject.

Guys are dicks by nature only some are assholes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iM-lrjl-sc)

I mean it's like to Dakini, us nice guys don't exist, sexually. Perhaps we're gay. Or invisible. Or just irrelevant.
No, it's more that every guy is a nice guy at first. Then there's always something... and they start being assholes. Like maybe they neglected to tell you that they were in love with their ex and planning to get back together with her as soon as they could until you were already head over heels for them. Or maybe they dump you out of the blue without an explanation. It always happens. It always sucks.

And it's not Dakini or anyone on this thread alone, this is a big problem. People dismiss what's right in plain view without thinking about it. No wonder everyone's a misanthropic, jaded cynic.
I'm misanthropic because people generally suck. There are very few who don't.

Really, my experience hasn't taught me that at all. Why even among my own girlfriends, psychotic tendencies only have about a 50% prevalence.

But seriously, I think this whole "all guys are assholes" type of thinking is kind of offensive. Not because I get assumed to be an asshole - I'm fine with people thinking that, as long as I get to make farting noises - but because people like me (who aren't assholes) just get dismissed. I mean it's like to Dakini, us nice guys don't exist, sexually. Perhaps we're gay. Or invisible. Or just irrelevant.

And it's not Dakini or anyone on this thread alone, this is a big problem. People dismiss what's right in plain view without thinking about it. No wonder everyone's a misanthropic, jaded cynic.

Perhaps I'm just bad at picking winners. :(

I think it's human nature to ignore the nice person right in front of you when there's a new and interesting 'fixer-upper' just within reach.

I finished homeschool, I'm nineteen years old, and I work in a supermarket. Nobody dislikes me, though one of my supervisors is a bitch. Like I said, I'm not an asshole. A self-professed jackass when I want to be (read: when it's funny), but definitely not an asshole or a dickhead. :p

Maybe you should listen to some Bob Mould to get over your bad mood, eh?
I've never heard of this Bob Mould.

However, in theory one of my friends is coming by and we're going to see if a bar is open, this should fix my bad mood, or at least hide it for a while.

Watch and be enlightened (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA93yV9StN4) on the whole "asshole dickhead" subject.

Guys a dicks. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iM-lrjl-sc)

Oh my god, that's the best thing ever. Well, the best thing ever to do with this subject.

*sigh*

I don't want to though. Is it really too much to ask for someone to actually give a shit about me?

You've had, what? Three boyfriends since I've been vaguely aware of you, and I only know that because of your penchant for sharing.

Seems like you're doing fine. Did someone give you the impression that you'd nail it on the first few tries? That person lied to you. There will be a litter of failures that will lead to when you get it right. Don't bitch out too soon. Especially when, by most standards, you've been doing better than quite a few folks floating around here...

*watches video*

Eerily true

I guess I'm living proof that nice guys finished last.

I've never heard of this Bob Mould.

However, in theory one of my friends is coming by and we're going to see if a bar is open, this should fix my bad mood, or at least hide it for a while.

Never heard of... Bob Mould... How you sicken me. Do a YouTube search and become enlightened!

Ah, covering the world's woes with booze... :p

Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

Dr. Cox put it best. "You are born alone alone, you damn sure die alone, isn't that right, Spike?"

Pretty much sums it up.

Never heard of... Bob Mould... How you sicken me. Do a YouTube search and become enlightened!

Ah, covering the world's woes with booze... :p
It's more that I'll be covering the woes with company. The booze is secondary. When I get home I'll probably feel the same way, only sleepier and maybe drunker.

Dr. Cox put it best. "You are born alone alone, you damn sure die alone, isn't that right, Spike?"

Pretty much sums it up.

People who die in plane crashes die in a crowd...

It's more that I'll be covering the woes with company. The booze is secondary. When I get home I'll probably feel the same way, only sleepier and maybe drunker.

Sounds good. Just don't throw up in the bed... I've done that before (though it was from a bad case of sunburn rather than booze).

No, it's more that every guy is a nice guy at first. Then there's always something... and they start being assholes.

I think what is more likely is that they were not a nice guy to begin with, and were instead presenting to you what you wanted to see. Or perhaps even that you merely saw in them, what you wanted to see, and ignored the telltale signs that a more objective analysis would pick up on.

I mean, I used to be misogynistic. (I'm now a misanthrope). Because that's how it was for me. I mean when I'm interacting with people it's hard to be objective and not get my hopes up and not delude myself, etc. It's a real effort just to keep things real. I just try not to be surprised by people anymore, and to expect literally anything from them, and so I have less emotion riding on whether they act this way or that. I mean in the end, if they're an asshole, it's their problem, not mine.

Like maybe they neglected to tell you that they were in love with their ex and planning to get back together with her as soon as they could until you were already head over heels for them. Or maybe they dump you out of the blue without an explanation. It always happens. It always sucks.

It doesn't *always* happen though. Also I do believe in self-fulfilling prophecy, especially the negative kind. If you expect this kind of behavior from guys and believe that all guys you meet will do it, well, you might not be surprised but you might also be more or less influencing events such that it actually happens. A change of attitude might help... or meet a REAL MAN (tm) (wink wink) (j/k)


I'm misanthropic because people generally suck. There are very few who don't.

Indeed.

*watches video*

Eerily true

I guess I'm living proof that nice guys finished last.

I'm not! Of course I am one of those misanthropic jaded cynic who loves being brutally honest to a point that his honesty does hurt people, but I like to think that I'm also nice when it's warranted.

You've had, what? Three boyfriends since I've been vaguely aware of you, and I only know that because of your penchant for sharing.
I've had more than three boyfriends.

Seems like you're doing fine. Did someone give you the impression that you'd nail it on the first few tries? That person lied to you. There will be a litter of failures that will lead to when you get it right. Don't bitch out too soon. Especially when, by most standards, you've been doing better than quite a few folks floating around here...
I don't think that getting a large quantity of men to be attracted enough to me to want to date me is really doing better. I would rather one sincere guy than half the male population.

People who die in plane crashes die in a crowd...

Well emotionally they die alone.

Stop ruining a good Dr. Cox quote!

If you are feeling lonely, i can always give company ;)

Perhaps I'm just bad at picking winners. :(

I think it's human nature to ignore the nice person right in front of you when there's a new and interesting 'fixer-upper' just within reach.

Well yes, and drama queens and kings, and "bad" boys and girls, just stand out more. In a sea of faces you'll encounter they're more likely to be the topic of thought for the same reason a zit in an otherwise clear complexion stands out. More attention, more thinking, anytime you get more limelight from people you've got an advantage - even if you're just making shitty music.

Also, I should clarify. Only about 50% of my girlfriends were psycho, but the rest were neurotic, crazy, soulless witches.

If you are feeling lonely, i can always give company ;)

If your ronery. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5VCG1Rino):cool:

I've had more than three boyfriends.
Since I've 'known' you. Look, sis, you're 'lucky' I'm that aware. I've forgotten who people were during debates...


I don't think that getting a large quantity of men to be attracted enough to me to want to date me is really doing better. I would rather one sincere guy than half the male population.
I think you're missing a salient point in there, champ. You gotta thump a lot of melons before you find the ripe one.

Well emotionally they die alone.
Not if they're hugging as they go down.


Stop ruining a good Dr. Cox quote!
Make me!

Dr. Cox put it best. "You are born alone alone, you damn sure die alone, isn't that right, Spike?"

Pretty much sums it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V32g3CwDHzg

I'm beginning to think that all guys are assholes.

That's always among the easiest things to find about guys. It's like a badge.
A real man leaves his mark ... like a stallion!

If you can help it, try not to go down this path. We all have our problems, and a lot of us have relationships that are just juggling acts of insecurities and imperfections ...

Besides, you're never really alone, anymore than any of the rest of us.

I'll die with money! :gundge:

Die? Everybody does it. I intend to be different and get out of life alive. :)

I intend to be different and get out of life alive. :)
Even if it kills you? :gundge:
No matter who you have to kill and maim to get there? o.9

Even if it kills you? :gundge:
No matter who you have to kill and maim to get there? o.9

The last thing I want is to get out of life alive only to meet up with a bunch of people I killed with a score to settle. :p

The last thing I want is to get out of life alive only to meet up with a bunch of people I killed with a score to settle. :p

You mean you don't want to be haunted, or you don't want to be reincarnated out of spite?
:p

I've had more than three boyfriends.


I don't think that getting a large quantity of men to be attracted enough to me to want to date me is really doing better. I would rather one sincere guy than half the male population.

Wow, good luck finding that one guy when absolutely every other guy, good and bad alike, completely ignore you. Imagine the odds of succeeding! He could be living in China or something.

I don't want assume too much about you, but from what you've said in this thread you sound much like a few of my friends. One day they say that everything is hopeless, usually because of boyfriend trouble, and a month later they are on top of the world again. I've always had trouble understanding this attitude. If you've had multiple relationships by now, shouldn't you realize that you'll soon be in a new one, and be happy again? And that for every new relationship your chances of finding someone truly good that you can stay together with for a longer time increase?

But what do I know. I'm 27 years old and I've never had a girlfriend. Or a real life friend. I've known since before I was a teenager that I would live alone and die alone. And I'm really not that bothered by it. It seems that no matter how successful people are (and compared to me you are very successful), they invent something to be depressed about. Can't you be happy for what you have?

You mean you don't want to be haunted, or you don't want to be reincarnated out of spite?
:p

I mean I don't want to die in the afterlife. Where would I go?

Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

It has been foretold that I will die with a hard-on, in great company, wearing nothing but flip-flops and a lobster bib.

It has been foretold that I will die with a hard-on, in great company, wearing nothing but flip-flops and a lobster bib.

That Nostradamus is impressive, isn't he?

*sigh*

I don't want to though. Is it really too much to ask for someone to actually give a shit about me?

Do you not believe your friends do, regardless of actions of some boyfriends?

If you've had multiple relationships by now, shouldn't you realize that you'll soon be in a new one, and be happy again? And that for every new relationship your chances of finding someone truly good that you can stay together with for a longer time increase?
I'm not sure that it does. The more relationships I'm in, the more people just go fuck off on me for no reason or for something that's completely out of my control. It seems to go like this: either they like me a lot more than I like them and wind up treating me like crap due to their own insecurities, or I like them more than they like me and they decide that I'm somehow no longer convenient to have a relationship with and then I'm alone again.

Can't you be happy for what you have?
Yeah, broken hearts are awesome. Everyone should want one.

Do you not believe your friends do, regardless of actions of some boyfriends?
Maybe. Sometimes I wonder about this too.

In b4 NSG is not your blog.

Since I've 'known' you. Look, sis, you're 'lucky' I'm that aware. I've forgotten who people were during debates...
Well thank you then.

I think you're missing a salient point in there, champ. You gotta thump a lot of melons before you find the ripe one.
Yeah, and everyone around me seems to have found their ripe melon while I'm just finding rotten ones. It seems to be a trend of rotten melons that isn't going to stop.

In b4 NSG is not your blog.
I asked other people to complain with me. This makes it not a blog.

Dr. Cox put it best. "You are born alone alone, you damn sure die alone, isn't that right, Spike?"
Unless you're some sort of reptile, there was at least 1 other person in the room with you when you were born.

I will probably die unloved and miserable, but not alone. Oh no, not alone.

Dr. Cox put it best. "You are born alone alone, you damn sure die alone, isn't that right, Spike?"

Pretty much sums it up.

Unless your mother gave birth to you with her crotch pressed up against a hole in the wall then you were not born alone.

everyone loves me......*repeats until it's true*

everyone loves me......*repeats until it's true*

*loves*

How could I ever be alone and miserable when I have beer?

I don't really care much about relationships. To me, my interests are what matters the most. Maybe I'll die alone, maybe not. Meh. Relationships largely seem to be one giant waste of time and resources to little or no gain. For me to consider one, it'd have to have a damn good potential, as judged from as detached and intellectual a perspective as possible.

everyone loves me......*repeats until it's true*

You're not gonna be repeating that one for long :)

I won't be alone, miserable, or unloved as long as I have cats. :)

Well, i don't intend to die for some time, and since i'm a fairly laid back person with an unusual belief in fate so anything can happen in my future, i'll just take it as it comes. Usually no point in getting worked up about something as it rarely helps. *Shrug*

As for the whole men being assholes thing, I'm a straight male and i've noticed that the majority are assholes. I'm usually an exception to the rule and therefore a 'nice guy' which means i tend to end up being everyones friend rather than people being attracted to me, except for other guys, which i have always thought was quite strange. Anyhow I by no means claim i am perfect, nobody is, but i felt like saying there are some of us around, though I at least don't actively search for a girlfriend, i can't say the same about others. I'm sure i'll meet someone sooner or later, as i said, i'll just see what fate has in store for me.

I won't be alone, miserable, or unloved as long as I have cats. :)

good plan! I already have 2! They love me as long as they have food and water and cuddles and little crocheted mice.

No, it's more that every guy is a nice guy at first. Then there's always something... and they start being assholes. Like maybe they neglected to tell you that they were in love with their ex and planning to get back together with her as soon as they could until you were already head over heels for them. Or maybe they dump you out of the blue without an explanation. It always happens. It always sucks.


I'm misanthropic because people generally suck. There are very few who don't.

this is why the wise woman sets an (arbitrary) time line on when to get more involved with a man. if you give him time to let his guard down and show that he IS an asshole you can get out with a minimum of damage.

good plan! I already have 2! They love me as long as they have food and water and cuddles and little crocheted mice.

I have two now. :) One of them sleeps near me every night and wakes up with me and sits in the bathroom whenever I take showers or go to the bathroom. I think she loves me. :) And the other one loves me too but she's really crazy about my brother. I'm the one who feeds her, gives her water, and changes her litter box though. :)

More than that, my goal is to die by having my atoms hurled down the length of a particle accelerator, to the point of a collision at near light speed. There ain't gonna be any misery in that sort of death. Just real quick.

I have two now. :) One of them sleeps near me every night and wakes up with me and sits in the bathroom whenever I take showers or go to the bathroom. I think she loves me. :) And the other one loves me too but she's really crazy about my brother. I'm the one who feeds her, gives her water, and changes her litter box though. :)

One of mine follows me everywhere purring and the other only comes to see me when he is hungry......otherwise he is "guarding" the children.

I won't be alone, miserable, or unloved as long as I have cats. :)

you think your cats love you?

at least you wont be alone or miserable...

Alone? Maybe. Miserable? Perhaps. Unloved? Never!

How could I ever be alone and miserable when I have beer?

You're not alone... because I'm thinking the exact same thing! Cheers to that! :cool:

im not afraid of dying alone and unloved but i do sometimes feel that the universe is against me and i have no one guarding my back.

Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

yes, but I don't really worry about that, it's probably still a very long time until I die so it's useless to worry about that. The fact that I'm alone at this moment and un-romantically-loved is far more concerning.

I have two now. :) One of them sleeps near me every night and wakes up with me and sits in the bathroom whenever I take showers or go to the bathroom. I think she loves me. :) And the other one loves me too but she's really crazy about my brother. I'm the one who feeds her, gives her water, and changes her litter box though. :)

And the best bit is, when you finally do die, they eat you!

Nom nom nom. :D

I love myself...physically.

Maybe. Sometimes I wonder about this too.

I do often, but then I remember that my love for my friends never wavers, regardless of what else is happening. I think it's logical to think they feel the same.

you think your cats love you?

at least you wont be alone or miserable...

They care about me at least.

They care about me at least.

They care about you feeding them.....

I think this whole "women are only attracted to assholes, why won't they ever date a NICE guy like me???" whine is simply something people tell themselves to feel better about the fact that they lack the social graces to find a meaningful relationship.

Now don't get me wrong, sometimes being alone and finding someone to connect with is difficult, and it sucks. But this whole myth of "women just like assholes" is nonsense.

The converse "all men are assholes" is equally untrue.

I think this whole "women are only attracted to assholes, why won't they ever date a NICE guy like me???" whine is simply something people tell themselves to feel better about the fact that they lack the social graces to find a meaningful relationship.

Now don't get me wrong, sometimes being alone and finding someone to connect with is difficult, and it sucks. But this whole myth of "women just like assholes" is nonsense.

The converse "all men are assholes" is equally untrue.

Well almost, the truth is no man knows what a woman wants! Oh sure he may have figured it out for that particular day....

Well almost, the truth is no man knows what a woman wants! Oh sure he may have figured it out for that particular day....

sure, but then I doubt any woman can really say truly what a man wants. And enough of this overly simplistic "men just want sex, beer, and sports" nonsense. Human beings are complex creatures, with complex needs, wants, desires and fears. To veil women in some sort of "feminine mystique' insults both genders.

sure, but then I doubt any woman can really say truly what a man wants. And enough of this overly simplistic "men just want sex, beer, and sports" nonsense. Human beings are complex creatures, with complex needs, wants, desires and fears. To veil women in some sort of "feminine mystique' insults both genders.

Most men do just want sex, a lot of them also want beer, and it is true to say that sport holds a place in our hearts. Insulting though? Naaaa I'm not insulted.

They care about you feeding them.....

I like cats a whole lot better than people anyway. People are scary and do evil things.

Most men do just want sex, a lot of them also want beer, and it is true to say that sport holds a place in our hearts. Insulting though? Naaaa I'm not insulted.

Yeah, and sometimes they want a more meaningful relationship.

Some women just want sex...and some want more.

What's the point in pretending that 'all men want this' or 'all women are emotionally unstable and don't know what they want'?

Yeah, and sometimes they want a more meaningful relationship.

Some women just want sex...and some want more.

What's the point in pretending that 'all men want this' or 'all women are emotionally unstable and don't know what they want'?

Heh whats the point in pretending anything? I'm gonna go for the 'coz it's fun' option.

We all know that anybody in a relationship is so coz thats what they want, so whats the harm in these sorts of stereotypes and generlisations?

Most men do just want sex, a lot of them also want beer, and it is true to say that sport holds a place in our hearts. Insulting though? Naaaa I'm not insulted.

Lots of times I don't want beer. I'd prefer to just drink water or a soft drink.

Sometimes I don't want sex. It could be because i'm tired or maybe because i'm stressed and want to just be still for a bit.

or post here because misery loves company.


Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

Everyone dies alone...death is an intensely personal experience. Unloved, loved...does that really change anything when it's your time to go?

Heh whats the point in pretending anything? I'm gonna go for the 'coz it's fun' option.

We all know that anybody in a relationship is so coz thats what they want, so whats the harm in these sorts of stereotypes and generlisations?

I'm in a relationship and it wasn't because I just wanted sex. I'm in a relationship because I wanted more than just sex

Everyone dies alone...death is an intensely personal experience. Unloved, loved...does that really change anything when it's your time to go?

My wife and myself where talking along these lines a few days back, about whether or not there is any dignity in death, she told me not to be so daft, of course there wasn't, what dignity do you have when you piss and shit yourself!

I think she had a point.

I'm in a relationship and it wasn't because I just wanted sex. I'm in a relationship because I wanted more than just sex

Umm that is what I just said?

Heh whats the point in pretending anything? I'm gonna go for the 'coz it's fun' option.

We all know that anybody in a relationship is so coz thats what they want, so whats the harm in these sorts of stereotypes and generlisations?

Because people actually buy into this shit.

Women are told that they are highly emotional, unstable, and focused entirely on commitment. Some women take this as license to be unstable, emotional fucktards. Others feel marginalised when they just want casual sex instead of a long term relationship. These generalisation reflect cultural norms, and frankly, going against cultural norms is going to create conflict, whether the basis for those norms are valid or not.

Then you have men, who are supposed to be rational thinkers...and yet complete slaves to their sex drives and unable to commit to one woman. We've seen how that has played out in terms of the emotional health of men, regardless of the belief that things are oh so much better now and men are completely free to express their emotions. Also, it can again be used as an excuse by certain men to be complete slutty fucktards.

Both views are insulting, and allow each gender to be viewed with contempt for traits that individuals, or even the gender as a whole, do not necessary have. They also set expectations which are unrealistic and unhealthy.

Because people actually buy into this shit.

Women are told that they are highly emotional, unstable, and focused entirely on commitment. Some women take this as license to be unstable, emotional fucktards. Others feel marginalised when they just want casual sex instead of a long term relationship. These generalisation reflect cultural norms, and frankly, going against cultural norms is going to create conflict, whether the basis for those norms are valid or not.

Then you have men, who are supposed to be rational thinkers...and yet complete slaves to their sex drives and unable to commit to one woman. We've seen how that has played out in terms of the emotional health of men, regardless of the belief that things are oh so much better now and men are completely free to express their emotions. Also, it can again be used as an excuse by certain men to be complete slutty fucktards.

Both views are insulting, and allow each gender to be viewed with contempt for traits that individuals, or even the gender as a whole, do not necessary have.


Yeah but then people will buy into all sorts of shit. Is it the fault of the shit, or the people?

If I say all men just want sex, it is sooooo clearly not true that if you do 'buy into it' then you are a bloody fool.

If though as you say you can see examples of the stereotype. Then like all such stereotypes it is because there is a grain of truth in it.

People don't turn into the stereotypes, stereotypes arrive from knowledge of what people are.

So yes some woman must be emotionally unstable, and yes some men must be only after sex.

Umm that is what I just said?

Misunderstanding :)

Most men do just want sex, a lot of them also want beer, and it is true to say that sport holds a place in our hearts. Insulting though? Naaaa I'm not insulted.

I've often wanted sex... but never just sex.

I don't like 'beer'.

I wouldn't piss on 'sports' if it was on fire.


Not all men buy into gradeschool stereotyping.

Yeah but then people will buy into all sorts of shit. Is it the fault of the shit, or the people?

If I say all men just want sex, it is sooooo clearly not true that if you do 'buy into it' then you are a bloody fool.

If though as you say you can see examples of the stereotype. Then like all such stereotypes it is because there is a grain of truth in it.

People don't turn into the stereotypes, stereotypes arrive from knowledge of what people are.

So yes some woman must be emotionally unstable, and yes some men must be only after sex.
I'm saying that these stereotypes are actually reflections of cultural norms, and thus have power. Women are seen as inferior to men because we are 'emotional thinkers'. Our decisions are therefore suspect. Men are seen as inferior to women because they are slaves to their sex drive...and are less able to control themselves in that way. These perceptions, these norms, both excuse certain behaviours, and encourage them. Yes, people can turn into the stereotype, when that is what is both expected, and encouraged via social pressure.

I've often wanted sex... but never just sex.

I don't like 'beer'.

I wouldn't piss on 'sports' if it was on fire.


Not all men buy into gradeschool stereotyping.

And yet, isn't it sad that you have to sort of phrase yourself in terms of being 'an exception'?

Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

You say that like it's a bad thing.:)

And yet, isn't it sad that you have to sort of phrase yourself in terms of being 'an exception'?

I don't know. I think Peep's collected properties of what it means to be a man are pretty useless to start with.

Although, that said, if most men would fit that categorisation, I wouldn't feel bad about being an exception to it.

I think the reason stereotypes survive so well, is that a lot of people need an excuse for being fairly pathetic examples of 'individuals'...

I don't know. I think Peep's collected properties of what it means to be a man are pretty useless to start with.

Although, that said, if most men would fit that categorisation, I wouldn't feel bad about being an exception to it.

I think the reason stereotypes survive so well, is that a lot of people need an excuse for being fairly pathetic examples of 'individuals'...
True, but I think it also makes certain people 'deviant' when they don't conform to social norms. You know...all women want is a husband and babies...so if they don't do that...what's wrong with them? It's not as bad as it once was, granted...but you talk to any childless woman or even childless couple in their late 30s, and you'll hear about all the comments they get as to their abnormal life. I mean...how could a woman not want children? Isn't the purpose of a couple to raise children? *gasp*

And think of how ridiculed men are if they remain virgins, and want to settle down before having sex. My lord...they must have something wrong with them.

That ridicule exists because people buy into these norms...and yes, I agree they are also used to excuse certain behaviours. When we simply say, 'aw, just harmless stereotypes' and leave it at that, we do nothing to challenge these ridiculous norms. The Peepelonia approach.

I'm saying that these stereotypes are actually reflections of cultural norms, and thus have power. Women are seen as inferior to men because we are 'emotional thinkers'. Our decisions are therefore suspect. Men are seen as inferior to women because they are slaves to their sex drive...and are less able to control themselves in that way. These perceptions, these norms, both excuse certain behaviours, and encourage them. Yes, people can turn into the stereotype, when that is what is both expected, and encouraged via social pressure.

Is that what you think? I don't like that at all. I don't actually believe that when I say all men just want sex, that is true. I also fail to see that the sentence 'all men just want sex' is applying any sort of pressure.

So the words them selves are not at fault neither are the sentiments they express, people, people, people that's the problem. Should we do away with jest, because some of us are too stupid to understand that it is a jest?

That seems sorta strange to me.

I've often wanted sex... but never just sex.

I don't like 'beer'.

I wouldn't piss on 'sports' if it was on fire.


Not all men buy into gradeschool stereotyping.

Which is exactly what I am saying.:D

Is that what you think? I don't like that at all. I don't actually believe that when I say all men just want sex, that is true. I also fail to see that the sentence 'all men just want sex' is applying any sort of pressure.

So the words them selves are not at fault neither are the sentiments they express, people, people, people that's the problem. Should we do away with jest, because some of us are too stupid to understand that it is a jest?

That seems sorta strange to me.
Your 'jests' are simply reflections of actual, wider beliefs...which are reflected on so many levels...in the media, in our courts, in our legislation. These attitudes are changing...slowly...but people take these stereotypes pretty seriously. Just look at any rape thread here...you will always get the argument that some woman 'inflamed the man' or that she 'changed her mind and how can any man know what a woman really wants' etc. You've got magazines and books dedicated to figuring out women, and men, appealing to what is seen as their common traits (commitment versus casual sex, emotions versus rational thought etc). Yes, the jokes are funny because they are based on kernels of truth...but the truth is not that these things are actually valid comments about existing and generalised inherent gendered traits...but instead the truth lies in the reflection of social beliefs and gender norms.

Gender norms don't change themselves baby. More people need to reject these idiotic generalisations, and frankly, just hoping people will 'smarten up' and figure it out without realising to what extent these beliefs are inculcated in us at ever level of society...is really just wishful thinking.

Your 'jests' are simply reflections of actual, wider beliefs...which are reflected on so many levels...in the media, in our courts, in our legislation. These attitudes are changing...slowly...but people take these stereotypes pretty seriously. Just look at any rape thread here...you will always get the argument that some woman 'inflamed the man' or that she 'changed her mind and how can any man know what a woman really wants' etc. You've got magazines and books dedicated to figuring out women, and men, appealing to what is seen as their common traits (commitment versus casual sex, emotions versus rational thought etc). Yes, the jokes are funny because they are based on kernels of truth...but the truth is not that these things are actually valid comments about existing and generalised inherent gendered traits...but instead the truth lies in the reflection of social beliefs and gender norms.

Gender norms don't change themselves baby. More people need to reject these idiotic generalisations, and frankly, just hoping people will 'smarten up' and figure it out without realising to what extent these beliefs are inculcated in us at ever level of society...is really just wishful thinking.

So in essence what you are saying is yes we should stop this type of jest because some people are too stupid to realise it is a jest?

I don't know. I think Peep's collected properties of what it means to be a man are pretty useless to start with.

Although, that said, if most men would fit that categorisation, I wouldn't feel bad about being an exception to it.

I think the reason stereotypes survive so well, is that a lot of people need an excuse for being fairly pathetic examples of 'individuals'...

And I think that I was making a joke. Really people lets do a quick straw pole here. Hands up all those who really thing that all women are emotionally unstable, and that all men only ever want sex?

I also think that it is highly ironic that this 'misunderstanding' has taken place on a thread with the title it has.

Lighten up folx, have yaselves a bit of fun, it's not all doom and gloom, the world is actually not so bad a place to be, concentrate on the good instead of the bad huh!

And I think that I was making a joke. Really people lets do a quick straw pole here. Hands up all those who really thing that all women are emotionally unstable, and that all men only ever want sex?

I also think that it is highly ironic that this 'misunderstanding' has taken place on a thread with the title it has.

Lighten up folx, have yaselves a bit of fun, it's not all doom and gloom, the world is actually not so bad a place to be, concentrate on the good instead of the bad huh!Get over yourself...you're hardly being blamed for what is a society-wide perception.

No one is going to admit flat out that they have these beliefs. Well...ok, some might. But it's hardly as though everyone rejects them...or even that a majority of people do. If that were the case...these would hardly be 'norms'.

So in essence what you are saying is yes we should stop this type of jest because some people are too stupid to realise it is a jest?

No, I'm saying that your perception that it's just a jest, not reflective of social norms, and that only 'idiots' hold these opinions (thereby invalidating these opinions) is misguided at best, and downright stupid at worst.

Get over yourself...you're hardly being blamed for what is a society-wide perception.

No one is going to admit flat out that they have these beliefs. Well...ok, some might. But it's hardly as though everyone rejects them...or even that a majority of people do. If that were the case...these would hardly be 'norms'.

Heheh and I was on the verge of telling you to get over yourself and don't take my jest to heart!:D

Ahhh perhaps you read my mind.

Heheh and I was on the verge of telling you to get over yourself and don't take my jest to heart!:D

Ahhh perhaps you read my mind.

Indeed. I'm not taking anything personally here, I'm just pointing out that your jests are rooted in something bigger than both of us.

No, I'm saying that your perception that it's just a jest, not reflective of social norms, and that only 'idiots' hold these opinions (thereby invalidating these opinions) is misguided at best, and downright stupid at worst.

I would ask for your sources, or to other wise show me such evidence that makes you think that the majority of people actually believe my jest as truth, and I have enjoyed our little to and throw, but ahhh it's 18:19, work has finished and I gota go home.

Perhaps then next week, same bat time, same bat place!;)

I like cats a whole lot better than people anyway. People are scary and do evil things.

cats do things that would be considered evil if a person did them.

the only reason you dont find your cat scary is because you think its too small to do you serious harm. the housecat is just a miniature version of a lion or tiger. if it was as big as a mountain lion you would be plenty scared of it.

cats are creatures of habit. the reason they seem to care for you is that stability is important to them. they want you around not for love but for sameness.

dogs dont love their owners either, they are just better at faking it.

If a girl is interested in a guy, my experience tells me that he's almost certainly an asshole.

If she isn't, then there's only a 50% chance of him being an asshole. I've learned that women are attracted to assholishness.

Pretty much. Being a good guy really doesn't have any benefits. I hate having a conscience! I hate it I hate it I hate it!!!

or post here because misery loves company.


Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?


I'm no emo kid, but I do like My Chemical Romance :D

I'm misanthropic because people generally suck. There are very few who don't.

Are you one of those "very few", or is your vanity of conceivable proportions?

i dont find that most people are jerks. the people i meet are mosly good people. i dont want to hang out with any of them but that doesnt reflect on their character at all.

not realy i've planned to have 2 kids catch a fatle desise and jump of a bulding the day before i die for the sheer hell of it :mp5::mp5::mp5::gundge::gundge:

or post here because misery loves company.


Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

Alone, unloved, maybe, but not miserable.

Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

Yeah, all the time.

But I figure, hell, if I'm going to die alone, unloved, and miserable, I might as well laugh about it... so I do. :)

Yeah, all the time.

But I figure, hell, if I'm going to die alone, unloved, and miserable, I might as well laugh about it... so I do. :)

and that's why you're going to end up in an insane asylum as a laughing manic.

and that's why you're going to end up in an insane asylum as a laughing manic.

Better than whining about it my whole life.

cats do things that would be considered evil if a person did them.

the only reason you dont find your cat scary is because you think its too small to do you serious harm. the housecat is just a miniature version of a lion or tiger. if it was as big as a mountain lion you would be plenty scared of it.

cats are creatures of habit. the reason they seem to care for you is that stability is important to them. they want you around not for love but for sameness.

dogs dont love their owners either, they are just better at faking it.

If they do, it's because they don't know any better. But I disagree with you that they can't care for me. They can tell when I'm upset and they come to comfort me.

How can I know that people can care for me any more than I can know that my cats care for me? I can't. I can't even know that feelings really exist. I could just be imagining that I feel them, and everyone else could just be imagining that they feel them.

There was a guy who came and randomly talked to me yesterday. It was so scary. He even said I was attractive. :( He was creepy. I was so nauseous after that. People shouldn't be that mean to me.

Just leave me alone. Stop trying to tell me that my best friends don't actually care for me. Stop trying to hurt me.

Have I ever felt alone? Yes Unloved? Yes Miserable? Of course.

Do I make it the theme song of my life? No.

Honestly, the topics of this thread has been the source of the destruction of a lot of my friendships over the years. I absolutely cannot tolerate girls who bitch and moan constantly about not being able to find a boyfriend, or a boyfriend who isn't a jerk, or a boyfriend who isn't totally lame, or that they are hit on -all- the time and how -miserable- that is and because of any of the above they will -never- be happy.

Get over it.

There is nowhere in the contract of life that says your are entitled to love and happiness. In fact, the only thing you are guarenteed is, 'you will die'. Everything else you have to work for yourself. Maybe if you keep finding all these jerk offs who end up making you miserable, you need to take some time off from dating to seriously anylize what the fuck you want from a guy. Maybe you need to not date until you understand yourself more fully. Maybe you should take the time to get to know a guy before you start dating him. Possibly maybe realize that it's not the end of your world or anybody else's if you are alone. It's a possibility that your over-dependancy is what is forcing you to jump into bad relationships or possibly even bringing out the worst qualities in the men you date.

I have a friend who every 2-3 weeks has a new boyfriend. Every single time it ends badly and she mopes and whines and cries until the next week when she suddenly has a new boyfriend. Yeah, no lesson learned there.

I've had bad relationships in the past and it hurt, and I cried, and I got over it. I'm careful about who I date now. I want to get to know a possible partner before I start something more meaningful, to see if we're at all compatible, because I have a very difficult personality. I've yet to meet that 'one' person, and maybe I never will, but I'm not going to spend my whole life crying over the fact that I might end up all alone. My life's worth isn't weighted on who I'm with or have been with.

Alone and miserable happens. If you can't deal with it, you should go ask the doctor for the colorful pills with the happy faces on them.

/rant

Dying alone, unloved and miserable?

Has someone been reading Cerebus?

Well thank you then.


Yeah, and everyone around me seems to have found their ripe melon while I'm just finding rotten ones. It seems to be a trend of rotten melons that isn't going to stop.

You're barely in your twenties, if that at all. A little early for towel throwing.

or post here because misery loves company.


Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

emo kids should be taken out back and beaten. they whine about stuff they have no business whining about. we should take them to the ghetto, leave them there, and then see how much their priviledged asses whine.

There was a guy who came and randomly talked to me yesterday. It was so scary. He even said I was attractive. :( He was creepy. I was so nauseous after that. People shouldn't be that mean to me.
Maybe you need to wear a sign saying, 'I can not handle humans, and if you try to be nice to me, I'm going to think you are trying to hurt me'.

Just leave me alone. Stop trying to tell me that my best friends don't actually care for me. Stop trying to hurt me.Wtf?

If you want people to 'leave you alone'...maybe you shouldn't post? And if, as is apparently the case, even kindness is 'trying to hurt' you in your books...maybe the problem isn't everyone else?

or post here because misery loves company.


Do you ever feel like you're going to die alone, unloved and miserable?

occassionally, but i've recently figured out why it might happen to me. i haven't figured out a solution yet though. i hope it won't need any sort of therapy, drugs would be nice though.

Are you one of those "very few", or is your vanity of conceivable proportions?
I probably suck a lot of the time. I dunno, I don't think I'm as rude as most people are at least and that's a start.

You're barely in your twenties, if that at all. A little early for towel throwing.
I turn 24 this year, that's not barely in my 20s.

I'm also surrounded by people in long term relationships.

I turn 24 this year, that's not barely in my 20s.

I'm also surrounded by people in long term relationships.

That's a 'meh'. None of my friends even started marrying until they were in their 30s. It's not a race. My buddy never had a single girlfriend until a couple months ago. He's 34. So...yeah...

"People who found total happiness at 24" is a short list, whining that you're not on it...meh. Buck up, champ. It really ain't that bad.

im not afraid of dying alone and unloved but i do sometimes feel that the universe is against me and i have no one guarding my back.

The universe, eventually, guards your back.
I'm sure a few people here would bat for ya too.

I mean I don't want to die in the afterlife. Where would I go?

Here, obviously :rolleyes:

EVERYBODY comes back to NS.

and that's why you're going to end up in an insane asylum as a laughing manic.


Better than whining about it my whole life.


"While McMurphy laughs. Rocking farther and farther backward against the cabin top, spreading his laugh out across the water — laughing at the girl, at the guys, at George, at me sucking my bleeding thumb, at the captain back at the pier... and the Big Nurse and all of it. Because he knows you have to laugh at the things that hurt you just to keep yourself in balance, just to keep the world from running you plumb crazy. He knows there's a painful side; he knows my thumb smarts and his girlfriend has a bruised breast and the doctor is losing his glasses, but he won't let the pain blot out the humor no more'n he'll let the humor blot out the pain."
One Flew Over The Cookoo's Nest, Ken Kesey