NationStates Jolt Archive


History in 90 seconds

Kryozerkia
16-10-2007, 15:55
My husband showed me this yesterday and being as inebriated as I was, I forgot to do my part as a Generalite and share the link with you.

It's an animation showing the spread of the major faiths in the world. It only gives very basic history but it does a good job in showing how the faiths spread across the world.

http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/history-of-religion.html

I found it quote amusing to watch Islam and Christianity spread. The visual makes it appear cancerous.

And what better way to inflame passions than to give you people this link:

http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/american-wars.html

So, who has caused America's deadliest wars? The GOP or the Dems?

You can view the video in segments after its done. It appears as though the Dems went into more costlier wars while the GOP went into many wars...
Ifreann
16-10-2007, 15:59
Very cool.
Non Aligned States
16-10-2007, 16:35
I don't know.... it tends to leave out a few things. The Chinese had Confucianism and Taoism, along with traditional far East countries like Korea and Taiwan if I'm not mistaken, not to mention Japan's Shintoism. It's a bit inaccurate in that aspect, but I suppose they were left out in exchange for current major ones.
Greater Trostia
16-10-2007, 16:44
Yeah I like how when Muslims invade and spread their religion it's called "Muslim Conquest," but when Christians do the same thing it's called "Missions Abroad."

Clearly the Christian conquest of the Americas was a humanitarian and beneficial thing, at least in comparison with the zomg terrorist liberal muslims.
Extreme Ironing
16-10-2007, 17:03
Cool indeed, though I felt with the American one, to say the ruling party was totally responsible for the deaths in some of the wars e.g. WW2, is a tad unfair.
Khadgar
16-10-2007, 17:14
Yeah I like how when Muslims invade and spread their religion it's called "Muslim Conquest," but when Christians do the same thing it's called "Missions Abroad."

Clearly the Christian conquest of the Americas was a humanitarian and beneficial thing, at least in comparison with the zomg terrorist liberal muslims.

It also didn't mention any native religions, Zoroastrianism, atheism, or any other faiths (or lack thereof).
Greater Trostia
16-10-2007, 17:19
It also didn't mention any native religions, Zoroastrianism, atheism, or any other faiths (or lack thereof).

Well yes, but it did give the caveat beforehand about that.
Kryozerkia
16-10-2007, 17:27
It also didn't mention any native religions, Zoroastrianism, atheism, or any other faiths (or lack thereof).

Oh c'mon, Atheism doesn't spread like butter; it breaks out like zits in small katamari. :)
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
16-10-2007, 17:31
Yeah I like how when Muslims invade and spread their religion it's called "Muslim Conquest," but when Christians do the same thing it's called "Missions Abroad."

Clearly the Christian conquest of the Americas was a humanitarian and beneficial thing, at least in comparison with the zomg terrorist liberal muslims.
I prefer how it acts as if their can only be one religion per square mile of terrain. As if the introduction of a Christian or Islamic majority automatically makes all the Jews and Hindus in the area become invisible.
Kryozerkia
16-10-2007, 17:32
I prefer how it acts as if their can only be one religion per square mile of terrain. As if the introduction of a Christian or Islamic majority automatically makes all the Jews and Hindus in the area become invisible.

Hence "minority".
Seathornia
16-10-2007, 17:39
Whilst certainly interesting, they both seem somewhat inaccurate.
Some Puppies
16-10-2007, 17:40
The Republican party didnt even exist until after the American civil war, and it more closely resembled the current Democratic party than the Democratic party of America's youth.
Seathornia
16-10-2007, 17:40
Cool indeed, though I felt with the American one, to say the ruling party was totally responsible for the deaths in some of the wars e.g. WW2, is a tad unfair.

For that matter, blaming a civil war on one side is, well, rather one-sided.
Call to power
16-10-2007, 17:59
now all we need is working in 90 seconds
Fassitude
16-10-2007, 18:16
"War is a necessary evil."

Rubbish.
The Alma Mater
16-10-2007, 19:05
It's an animation showing the spread of the major faiths in the world. It only gives very basic history but it does a good job in showing how the faiths spread across the world.

You mean "history according to those faiths". For quite a few things we have no other evidence than the holy books of those religions themselves - and often somewhat more contradicting evidence to boot.

Then again, they did leave out the massive flood that killed the whole planet ;)
Tekania
16-10-2007, 19:20
The Republican party didnt even exist until after the American civil war, and it more closely resembled the current Democratic party than the Democratic party of America's youth.

Incorrect... The Republican Party was founded in 1850 (note the Civil War didn't begin till 11 years afterwards; 1861)... Lincoln (who was elected before war broke out) ran as a Republican.
Kyronea
16-10-2007, 19:24
"War is a necessary evil."

Rubbish.

Indeed, at least in the sense of starting a war. Fighting a defensive war when you are attacked is, however, a necessary evil because that's always possible. That's why countries have armies.
Similization
16-10-2007, 19:34
Indeed, at least in the sense of starting a war. Fighting a defensive war when you are attacked is, however, a necessary evil because that's always possible. That's why countries have armies.You mean, it's why a handful of countries have armies, right?
The rest have them primarily to kill their citizens, and occasionally some foreign citizens.
Kyronea
16-10-2007, 19:41
You mean, it's why a handful of countries have armies, right?
The rest have them primarily to kill their citizens, and occasionally some foreign citizens.
Eh...I'd say the initial idea was for defensive purposes. What the government decides to do with the army after that is not exactly my fault or the fault of those who established it for defensive purposes.

Though I would say it is the duty of that country's citizenry to stop such abuse of their army.
Similization
16-10-2007, 19:50
Eh...I'd say the initial idea was for defensive purposes. What the government decides to do with the army after that is not exactly my fault or the fault of those who established it for defensive purposes.I wouldn't, if I were you. The initial idea was to establish a monopoly on power, and thus a monopoly on resources, within as large an area as possible. That was a really fucking bad idea, and caused stupid shit like countries and states. Countries being the area of monopoly, and states the aggregates for maintaining it.

Though I would say it is the duty of that country's citizenry to stop such abuse of their army.People routinely do, all over the planet and throughout history. That's why countries have armies. There's a couple of exceptions of course, but I've already pointed that out.

EDIT: Think of it as the mob. Because that's basically what it is.
Kyronea
16-10-2007, 20:02
I wouldn't, if I were you. The initial idea was to establish a monopoly on power, and thus a monopoly on resources, within as large an area as possible. That was a really fucking bad idea, and caused stupid shit like countries and states. Countries being the area of monopoly, and states the aggregates for maintaining it.
That was survival instinct playing its hand once again, you know. It's extremely difficult for humans, even with our intelligence, to get around that instinct.

People routinely do, all over the planet and throughout history. That's why countries have armies. There's a couple of exceptions of course, but I've already pointed that out.

EDIT: Think of it as the mob. Because that's basically what it is.
Yeah, I know. I'm looking at things with a bit of rose coloured glasses today and I know I shouldn't.
The SX
16-10-2007, 20:16
I think it was showing what the president that was in power at the start of the war's party was.
Seathornia
16-10-2007, 20:48
Well, the site has more errors:

Regarding the WWII history thing, Denmark was not conquered (sadly) - it collaborated just as much as Vichy France did (which should be listed as part of the Axis forces as soon as France is conquered).

It also fails to mention that several countries besides France and Great Britain also declared war on Germany, hence why it was a world war and not just a european one.

They fail to mention that they didn't merely land in North Africa - there was a huge fight going on there first. They also forgot to mention that North Africa was conquered by the Axis forces.
Kryozerkia
16-10-2007, 22:04
* SNIP *

Hence, why it's history in 90 seconds. You can only fit so much into 90 seconds, mon ami.
Seathornia
16-10-2007, 23:17
Hence, why it's history in 90 seconds. You can only fit so much into 90 seconds, mon ami.

I was going into other parts of the same website. I'm fairly certain it's not all 90 second history and if it is, it just shows the folly of trying to teach even six years of history in 90 seconds.

Oh wait, lulz, I just realized: It's not their site that had the thing about WWII. They merely linked to it.
Seathornia
16-10-2007, 23:24
full explanation about the link: It's the US Holocaust Memorial Museum >.<

And yeah, I saw plenty of errors in that museum too. It's probably the worst holocaust museum I've ever seen, examples:

The Soviet Union attacked Finland. Nazi Germany offered to help Finland against them. End result? The aggressor (Soviet Union) was thwarted in their attempt to invade Finland (a neutral country) and Nazi Germany had to use troops up there that could then not be applied elsewhere. Yet the museum lists Finland as an Axis country, despite the fact that it received assistance from, but did not assist Nazi Germany.

Here (in the link) I see they claimed Denmark was invaded and conquered. However much it might pain the national pride of the country I currently claim to originate from, we weren't invaded or conquered - we willingly submitted and barely fired a shot. What's worse is that it took some two-three years before people really started forming resistance movements. And the jews? Well, we didn't save them because they were jews, silly museum, we saved them because they were our family, friends and neighbors.

They also forget to mention Vichy France as part of the Axis forces until after it is occupied. However, I really hope that the French themselves wouldn't doubt for one second that what Vichy France did was collaborate.

I dunno, I never really liked that museum when I visited it and don't consider it an expert on much, other than mildly educating people that something really bad happened across the Atlantic.

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New Limacon
16-10-2007, 23:39
I like the mapof religion spreading, it seems like a story. In the West, the first one is Judaism. It is quickly cut off by the spread of Christianity and later Islam, which eventually take most of the globe. Then, at the very end, there is a coda where Judaism gets some land back. Aww...